Yet another GAF thread - I still haven't got over it :( (No spergfits allowed)

[king of the internet]

Red Scarlet destroyed the first Football Thread community at GAF and we've been vagabonds ever since. 

Wasn't that Dragona?

[bork]

When you think of turn based games you think of Japanese games? For real? And not Might and Magic or Baldurs Gate?

You're seriously telling me that those games come to mind first, over Final Fantasy and all that shit?

[benjipwns]

Pokemans

Liked this so I could unlike it.

[Momo]

I heard Scar streams a lot but I don't know what the site is, anyone feel like PMing me?

i think it was twitch or ustream, i remember watching her stuff 2/3 years back

[Joe Molotov]

You have played 200 hours of Civ V. A turn based strategy game.

X-Com is hugely successful. Turn based.

The recent crpg revival? Turn based first person dungeon crawlers. Turn based infinity engine spiritual successors.

But no. Only weaboos like turn based and turn based is old and crappy.

Strategy=/= RPG

Look Esch,  if you want to play board games or D&D, then do so, but don't make video games conform to archaic, unnecessary, and time-wasting constraints.

[Himu]

I heard Scar streams a lot but I don't know what the site is, anyone feel like PMing me?

I will later tonight.

When you think of turn based games you think of Japanese games? For real? And not Might and Magic or Baldurs Gate?

You're seriously telling me that those games come to mind first, over Final Fantasy and all that shit?

No. But to act like western RPGs haven't had a history with turn based combat and gameplay is cute revisionist history.

Also, The only turn based Final Fantasy's are 1, 2, 3, and 10.

[Squiddy]

Rogue likes are for people with no life.

[Himu]

Lotta weird broad statements today.

[king of the internet]

Rogue likes are for people with no life.

Games that can be played in small bursts are for people with no life? I'm not sure I follow. 

[Momo]

Rogue likes are for people with no life.

[Kara]

Wasn't that Dragona?

Nope, it was Red Scarlet. We were a real clubhouse / clique back in the day and she didn't like the way we reacted to her bandwagoning about some event so she locked the thread and promised to go through every post in it, banning anyone who posted anything ban worthy.

Of course this was an insurmountable task and she eventually gave up, but the damage was done. I think we suffered at least one perm and a few long-term bans from the ground she was able to cover as well as our reaction as a community to her actions.

It sucked because she'd been diplomatic with us in the past (I once negotiated the undoing of a member's permaban with her) but tempers flared and no one backed down so we were left with a desert called peace. In our current incarnation we're a subforum on a website that's in no way whatsoever affiliated with GAF and the people who post there have no fucking clue who most of us are because we keep to ourselves.

[Himu]

But they intersect all the time. Valyrie Profile 2, final Fantasy tactics, Warcraft 3, and kings Bounty are good examples.

So? Jazz and death metal intersect all the time too.

Huh? These games are STRATEGY rpgs. The merging of these two genres is very common, and they are also the most common type of turn based game. Liking turn based strategy but not turn based RPGs makes no sense , breh. Thanks for Eschsplaining.

[hampster]

Can't we all just get along and embrace real time with pause like civilized human beings

[Steve Contra]

Oh man I'm anticipating some epic Himu paragraphs arguing about rpgs that I won't read

[Momo]

eh, I have an account on one of the football (and F1) offshoot forums. Used to love those communities. I abandoned both forums pretty fast though

[king of the internet]

Wasn't that Dragona?

Nope, it was Red Scarlet. We were a real clubhouse / clique back in the day and she didn't like the way we reacted to her bandwagoning about some event so she locked the thread and promised to go through every post in it, banning anyone who posted anything ban worthy.
...

Oh, I see. I remember the incident but I thought it was Dragona since she somehow got that reputation for being overzealous or whatever. Surely it wasn't just for handing out short bans for shitty female driver jokes and stuff.

[Kara]

Oh, I see. I remember the incident but I thought it was Dragona since she somehow got that reputation for being overzealous or whatever. Surely it wasn't just for handing out short bans for shitty female driver jokes and stuff.

I can see what you're saying, tbh (and given our past dealings with her) her reaction seemed very unusual at the time, especially the stakes to which it went.

We were very unruly back then doe (no one ever moderated the thread regularly), so I can see why a mod would be sick of our shit and blow up eventually. 

[Himu]

Esch let's hug it out

[benjipwns]

Esch let's hug it out

You should take turns.

[Phoenix Dark]

You have played 200 hours of Civ V. A turn based strategy game.

X-Com is hugely successful. Turn based.

The recent crpg revival? Turn based first person dungeon crawlers. Turn based infinity engine spiritual successors.

But no. Only weaboos like turn based and turn based is old and crappy.

Strategy=/= RPG

take that L and sit down breh. Himu served it up hot with a side of curry for your ass.

[Himu]

No 'cism.

[Himu]

Yeah he's used to that belt. Brown, long, rough, and hard.

[Phoenix Dark]

brehs it's rare for the god Esch to expose an opening, but when he does I go hard

[Himu]

brehs it's rare for the god Esch to expose an opening, but when he does I go hard

[Tasty]

I heard Scar streams a lot but I don't know what the site is, anyone feel like PMing me?

i think it was twitch or ustream, i remember watching her stuff 2/3 years back

Unfortunately, searching for Scar's name isn't fruitful since the RED camera of the same name.

Edit- Thanks Himu

[Rahxephon91]

Perfect for Gaffers looking to start thier own website.

http://get.moe/#

[Great Rumbler]

Turn-based gaming is godly, but I'm not surprised that today's youth can't appreciate the deep strategy of planning out each move carefully and executing it to perfection the way us older folks used to do way back in the 90's. It's like a fine wine, brehs, but if you ain't go the taste then you'll never know.

[Your Stalker]

I mean I get why you'd dislike turn based of you want to just mindlessly hack away at shit, but some of us like kicking back and enjoying the satisfaction of formulating a winning strategy. It's basically using your brain vs. your thumbs.

Who says you can't formulate strategies in real time or is your mind that  ?

[TVC15]

Real time rpgs suck ass because you have to rely on shitty AI partners. If turns suck because they're based around an old limitation of the genre, real time sucks because technology isn't good enough to make the AI palpable.

[StealthFan]

I mean I get why you'd dislike turn based of you want to just mindlessly hack away at shit, but some of us like kicking back and enjoying the satisfaction of formulating a winning strategy. It's basically using your brain vs. your thumbs.

Who says you can't formulate strategies in real time or is your mind that  ? (Image removed from quote.)

[jakefromstatefarm]

I mean I get why you'd dislike turn based of you want to just mindlessly hack away at shit, but some of us like kicking back and enjoying the satisfaction of formulating a winning strategy. It's basically using your brain vs. your thumbs.

Who says you can't formulate strategies in real time or is your mind that  ? (Image removed from quote.)

RTS's are stressful as fuck, especially when you have a ton of moving parts. The argument is that it's easier to unwind with a turn-based because everything's segmented.

But to answer your question, yes. 

And 4X's like Civ and Age of Wonders contain rpg elements, what with perk systems, a bevy of playable civ's/classes with a myriad of victory possibilities, so imo it's not disingenuous to include those in an rpg discussion.

[zepblackstar]

Wasn't that Dragona?

Nope, it was Red Scarlet. We were a real clubhouse / clique back in the day and she didn't like the way we reacted to her bandwagoning about some event so she locked the thread and promised to go through every post in it, banning anyone who posted anything ban worthy.
...

Oh, I see. I remember the incident but I thought it was Dragona since she somehow got that reputation for being overzealous or whatever. Surely it wasn't just for handing out short bans for shitty female driver jokes and stuff.

There is a general attribution issue when it comes to Dragona.  She certainly did run through threads with a lawn mower sometimes, but more than half of the shit she gets blamed for wasn't her at all.  When people don't know who banned them, they're forced to guess, and she was many people's favorite guess.

If it was something that related to women, it was generally her and before I knew why she left, I assumed it was because Evilore didn't want a mod running roughshod over the userbase to the point people would stop posting.

[thisismyusername]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=116995793&postcount=1

Oh god, I'm old.  I thought Coolio was like... 26 or so, but if he can't remember 1999 then he's like... 18-20?

[StealthFan]

brehs it's rare for the god Esch to expose an opening, but when he does I go hard

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[Take My Breh Away]

Adam "Deal With It" Orth makes a new game (That looks kinda good). Some of GAF freaks out and wants him out of the industry

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=117038486&postcount=5

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=117045158&postcount=47

Fail at getting over things that happened over 12 months ago and demand someone stay out of a job forever, brehs

First post tho'

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=117038228&postcount=2

[Broseidon]

who's adam orth?

[Great Rumbler]

Adam Orth is the former Microsoft guy who made fun of people for not liking the XBone's DRM scheme.

[Himu]

New Years 1999 was the best New Years ever and I couldn't even drink. All this hysteria for months - over a year - about Y2k.Talking about, we're going to lose EVERYTHING and modern civilization will crumble as we know it! Tick tock, clock strikes 12 and we still have electricity, we still have internet, we still have tv, we still have teenagers cyber sexing in aim chat rooms, shit is fine. I drank my sparkling wine, went home, and played some Final Fantasy VIII till 2 in the morn.

[Phoenix Dark]

We were in the basement of our house (to avoid random gunshots according to my mom, despite the fact that we were in the suburbs then), watching the countdown on TV. Nothing happened, and then my dad waxed poetic on the fact that only god knew the future, and this proved man/science weren't as smart as they thought they were.



then I played StarCraft

[Himu]

What I'm wondering is what Y2K hysteria was like OUTSIDE of the USA. Did they fall for it too?! I'm still amazed at how a whole country legit thought we were all going to die because of them DARN scientists not inputting the date into KOMPYUTA.

Shit is fucking hilarious in hindsight.

[TVC15]

The first time I did acid I ended up playing Warcraft 2 in the same room as my parents while coming down. I was 14 or 15.

[Himu]

I forgot about the whole "THE NEW MILLENNIUM DOESN'T START TILL 2001" thing

GOD

[Rahxephon91]

I forgot about the whole "THE NEW MILLENNIUM DOESN'T START TILL 2001" thing

GOD

[Phoenix Dark]

WarCraft II was so fun. I was more of a StarCraft fan, but I was obsessed with creating maps in WarCraft II. I really wanted to create something where you invaded a big ass castle, protected by walls and trees. Alas I was never good at it.

[Himu]

New Years 1999 was the best New Years ever and I couldn't even drink. All this hysteria for months - over a year - about Y2k hysteria. Talking about, we're going to lose EVERYTHING and modern civilization will crumble as we know it! Tick tock, clock strikes 12 and we still have electricity, we still have internet, we still have tv, we still have teenagers cyber sexing in aim chat rooms, shit is fine. I drank my sparkling wine, went home, and played some Final Fantasy VIII till 2 in the morn.

...

things really are different in the southern US, aren't they?

 

My 8th grade (1999-2000) science teacher went on and on about how Y2K was real. I didn't really believe her, but at the same time, as the clock counted down,  I was nervous, ya know?

[Stoney Mason]

We were in the basement of our house (to avoid random gunshots according to my mom, despite the fact that we were in the suburbs then), watching the countdown on TV. Nothing happened, and then my dad waxed poetic on the fact that only god knew the future, and this proved man/science weren't as smart as they thought they were.

Jesus Christ

[Himu]

I forgot about the whole "THE NEW MILLENNIUM DOESN'T START TILL 2001" thing

GOD

Jerry just said that to be mean to Newman!

[Phoenix Dark]

We were in the basement of our house (to avoid random gunshots according to my mom, despite the fact that we were in the suburbs then), watching the countdown on TV. Nothing happened, and then my dad waxed poetic on the fact that only god knew the future, and this proved man/science weren't as smart as they thought they were.

Jesus Christ

And he went to medical school which makes it even worse.

[Himu]

Yep. A lot of adults legitimately bought into it here.

http://www.newsday.com/business/technology/in-case-of-a-y2k-glitch-some-shoppers-stocking-up-on-water-other-essentialsy2k-focus-on-essentials-some-signs-of-shoppers-hoarding-water-medicine-1.263799

Over here people treated it like it was going to be an actual emergency as seen in that article and stocked up before hand.

As for what I did, I went a friends party. It was so rad. I had my first kiss that night.

[Joe Molotov]

New Years 1999 was the best New Years ever and I couldn't even drink. All this hysteria for months - over a year - about Y2k hysteria. Talking about, we're going to lose EVERYTHING and modern civilization will crumble as we know it! Tick tock, clock strikes 12 and we still have electricity, we still have internet, we still have tv, we still have teenagers cyber sexing in aim chat rooms, shit is fine. I drank my sparkling wine, went home, and played some Final Fantasy VIII till 2 in the morn.

...

things really are different in the southern US, aren't they?

 

My 8th grade (1999-2000) science teacher went on and on about how Y2K was real. I didn't really believe her, but at the same time, as the clock counted down,  I was nervous, ya know?

i mean, you were a kid, so i don't blame you, but grown adults actually buying into that?  those people were generally seen as hucksters or crackpots north of the border.  i spent new year's 1999 drunk off my ass, white guy dancing to will2k, prince, and robbie williams, having most regrettable makeouts, and walking 3-4 km home in -35 degree weather cuz fuck waiting for a cab on new year's.  pretty sure i grabbed a big slice of pizza or a chili dog on the way home, too.  it was awesome.

Look, not everyone could afford a fancy Y2K Compliant computer, Oscar. Don't look down on us.

[Stoney Mason]

I remember most people thinking it was going to be a nuisance. But not a catastrophe or anything outside of the news media who were just trying to get that fear machine going.

Now 9/11. I could tell you some weird shit around that time where suddenly "normal" people I knew were telling me it was the end times. And this was out in California.

[Himu]

New Years 1999 was the best New Years ever and I couldn't even drink. All this hysteria for months - over a year - about Y2k hysteria. Talking about, we're going to lose EVERYTHING and modern civilization will crumble as we know it! Tick tock, clock strikes 12 and we still have electricity, we still have internet, we still have tv, we still have teenagers cyber sexing in aim chat rooms, shit is fine. I drank my sparkling wine, went home, and played some Final Fantasy VIII till 2 in the morn.

...

things really are different in the southern US, aren't they?

 

My 8th grade (1999-2000) science teacher went on and on about how Y2K was real. I didn't really believe her, but at the same time, as the clock counted down,  I was nervous, ya know?

i mean, you were a kid, so i don't blame you, but grown adults actually buying into that?  those people were generally seen as hucksters or crackpots north of the border.  i spent new year's 1999 drunk off my ass, white guy dancing to will2k, prince, and robbie williams, having most regrettable makeouts, and walking 3-4 km home in -35 degree weather cuz fuck waiting for a cab on new year's.  pretty sure i grabbed a big slice of pizza or a chili dog on the way home, too.  it was awesome.

Look, not everyone could afford a fancy Y2K Compliant computer, Oscar. Don't look down on us.

I remember this

[Dickie Dee]

I was at a 3 day Phish concert in the middle of the Florida everglades for NYE '99


 

[Himu]

Not all people mind you. My family for instance thought it was rubbish and didn't stock on shit.

[Himu]

Now I've got 90s music hits playlist on spotify and I'm going to take a nap. 1999 radio stations playing the best of the 90s in December 1999

[huckleberry]

I had to work a special shift at the airport for Y2K in case planes started falling out of the sky. I shit you not they expected us to run into burning wreckage to save people.

[Shadow Mod]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=839714

oh noez butts

also esch 

[Phoenix Dark]

scar is awesome.  hate the way people frame her demodding, with that "divulged private/personal information" line.  she gave out someone's ban reason, which admittedly was against lore's rules, but hardly the breach people imagine when you use that particular wording.

It's been spun as if she gave out someone's name, phone number, or address. smh

[Shadow Mod]

I don't even get that considering tons of people basically give out ban infos about other members all of the time.

[Take My Breh Away]

scarlet's crime wasn't giving out ban info, really.  her crime was "aiding" someone trying to start a splinter forum.  for whatever reason, lore is more sensitive about the splinter forums than one would expect.  deep down, he probably fears one of them actually pulling off a miracle and hurting GAF, i guess, which is a bit crazy but understandable when you realize evilore has absolutely no work skills or job experience whatsoever.  if anything killed his golden goose, he'd be right fucked.

Unlike Lowtax, EL is slightly competent. He'll be able to ride it out for a few years. There's enough stans clamoring to defend their corporation of choice waiting to get into neogaf to make it seem slightly exclusive.