Yet another GAF thread - I still haven't got over it :( (No spergfits allowed)

[Momo]

I don't understand people's desire to have kids at all. For me it is to be avoided at all costs

[MCD]

Someone must continue shilling after I die.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I was pretty certain I didn't want to have children until I realized now at 28 the only people I come across who don't want kids were pretty much gaffers, goons, and other "the internet is my life" losers.

[MCD]

I didn't like the idea either but once you see a toddler in front of you, emotional shit happens.

[Rufus]

Pretty much. Even animal babies will tickle the instinct.

On forums, iven the demographics, it's not surprising to come across a hostile attitude towards children. Late teens and early tweens, especially guys, aren't very eager to the idea (and the responsibility). When I was that age I could count the peers that knew they wanted to have children on one hand.

[thisismyusername]

I didn't like the idea either but once you see a toddler in front of you, emotional shit happens.

Nope, they're messy as hell and having to keep an eye on them isn't something I want to do.

If I ever wanted kids, I'd adopt at age 3-4 or above.

[Rufus]

Nope, they're messy as hell and having to keep an eye on them isn't something I want to do.

A common sentiment among parents, too.

[thisismyusername]

That's true. But since I'm gay it doesn't really matter.  I'm just saying: Not all of us no kids people aren't internet shut-ins, even though technically I am an internet shut-in  :'(, we just see it as a responsibility and drama we'd rather not have.

[Shaka Khan]

That is a fucking ying yang. That poster is fucking stupid.

Actually YOU'RE stupid. That's Tai Ji.

Actually YOU'RE stupid.  That's TaijiTU, the symbol of Taiji.  But the symbol also unrelatedly occurs in Celtic iconography, and we usually refer to *that* one as "Yin Yang".

So to rank:

Oscar 
Himuro 
Eschaton 

More like errbody

If I ever wanted kids, I'd adopt at age 3-4 or above.

You mean when they start developing personalities? That's like the age you should be putting them for adoption.

[Himu]

I'm still not convinced MJ is a child molester from that book selection. Mayyybe a pedophile, but we don't know. Most of the odd stuff are photographic and artistic renditions of children from a long time ago, but those photographs include women and men too and all of his porn on video is straight porn. What's more weird are the people saying "I thought he was innocent until this" because he has a book collection from a library that contained 10,000 books. Didn't the kid who claimed MJ diddled him say reportedly in recent news that he only said it because his parents told him to?

[Hock]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=612971

enjoy; I'm out. no more OT for me.

I only read a few pages but its already annoying me. Most threads posted here dont phase me because its usually just guys confused about life or women, which I find pretty harmless. But these judgmental assholes who would rather shit on someone who is getting screwed by the company they work for instead of the actual company really get to me.

[brob]

babies are cool as hell. my cousin who's as old as me recently had one, pretty fun to hang out with the little dude and play with fire trucks and shit.

But I get to go home once I had my fill of imaginary carpet fires. 

[MCD]

I didn't like the idea either but once you see a toddler in front of you, emotional shit happens.

Nope, they're messy as hell and having to keep an eye on them isn't something I want to do.

If I ever wanted kids, I'd adopt at age 3-4 or above.

Oh sorry, I'm rich so I don't need to tend to them myself.

[StealthFan]

There will be an Outcast sequel 

It won't have the ambition of the original, which is one of my favorite games of all time, but whatever.

[Tasty]

I'm still not convinced MJ is a child molester from that book selection. Mayyybe a pedophile, but we don't know. Most of the odd stuff are photographic and artistic renditions of children from a long time ago, but those photographs include women and men too and all of his porn on video is straight porn. What's more weird are the people saying "I thought he was innocent until this" because he has a book collection from a library that contained 10,000 books. Didn't the kid who claimed MJ diddled him say reportedly in recent news that he only said it because his parents told him to?

 

[brawndolicious]

I know it's clichéd but himu, if you had kids and MJ was still alive, would you let them sleep over?

[Momo]

I think it would be worse to have your kids sleep over at Andrex, he'd have pillow fights with 'em get 'em all sugared up and playing pokemon and mario, then when they return to you, you're going to have to deal with their nintendiction.

[Tasty]

Kids are the worst Pokemon players though. I'd rather play with people on my level.

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GAFers = my level oh god

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[Himu]

I'm still not convinced MJ is a child molester from that book selection. Mayyybe a pedophile, but we don't know. Most of the odd stuff are photographic and artistic renditions of children from a long time ago, but those photographs include women and men too and all of his porn on video is straight porn. What's more weird are the people saying "I thought he was innocent until this" because he has a book collection from a library that contained 10,000 books. Didn't the kid who claimed MJ diddled him say reportedly in recent news that he only said it because his parents told him to?

 

MJ had a collection of 10,000 books. Of those books, only two books contained naked children. Both were in a cupboard, of which Jackson hadn't touched in years. The rest of his porn stash were hetereosexual and homosexual porn between adults. If Jackson were a pedophile and child molester, why would his total sum of alleged child "pornography" consist of two books you can currently on Amazon.com right this second? If they were pornography, Amazon wouldn't sell them.

But no, you have to paint him as a pedophile despite the obvious charges against him molesting those child were false.

Michael Jackson went heavy into drug use after the 1993 trial, and it contributed to his death.

But keep drinking the media Kool-Aid, double fuck.

[Himu]

I know it's clichéd but himu, if you had kids and MJ was still alive, would you let them sleep over?

This is a weird question because why would any functional, responsible parent let their child stay at any adults house that isn't family? That makes no sense, and the question is a complete strawman.  I wouldn't let my kids stay at your house either. Are you a pedophile?

Does your grandma have any pictures of you naked as a boy? Let me guess, she's a child molester too.

[Tasty]

MJ defenders are scary.

[MCD]

That's great to hear. I guess two loli doujins in my collection is nothing to worry about!

[Himu]

It's not really the same thing. Of the two, one was a gift by a fan. You can buy it on Amazon, right now.

At the time of the 1993 trial, both books were locked in a public book cupboard in his home. The key was lost for three years after the staff who had the key was fired. If Michael Jackson consumed child pornography, why would he leave his only sources of supposed child porn locked up in a cupboard? That makes no sense.

[nudemacusers]

Does your grandma have any pictures of you naked as a boy? Let me guess, she's a child molester too.

[Himu]

Does your grandma have any pictures of you naked as a boy? Let me guess, she's a child molester too.

If you read up on the 1993 trial of Michael Jackson, that's what a lot of the "evidence" the prosecutor gave the court. Here's an old book from the 1960's that was a gift by a fan, surely MJ diddles kids.

[nudemacusers]

Does your grandma have any pictures of you naked as a boy? Let me guess, she's a child molester too.

If you read up on the 1993 trial of Michael Jackson, that's what a lot of the "evidence" the prosecutor gave the court. Here's an old book from the 1960's that was a gift by a fan, surely MJ diddles kids.

No, I'm bill cosby-ing your bizzaro defense and weirdo logic hoops.

http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/ctdocs/011805pltreqaseemd.pdf

[Himu]

I can't deal with Michael Jackson being a child molester. He wasn't.

[brawndolicious]

I know it's clichéd but himu, if you had kids and MJ was still alive, would you let them sleep over?

This is a weird question because why would any functional, responsible parent let their child stay at any adults house that isn't family? That makes no sense, and the question is a complete strawman.  I wouldn't let my kids stay at your house either. Are you a pedophile?

Does your grandma have any pictures of you naked as a boy? Let me guess, she's a child molester too.

I'm not saying there's definitive proof either way but my grandparents don't invite a stranger's children to sleep over. That crosses the boundary between a little eccentric and suffering from some serious emotional problem.

[Himu]

I agree.

[thisismyusername]

]You mean when they start developing personalities? That's like the age you should be putting them for adoption.

Yes, exactly. Which makes for good adoption choosing: This one is too bratty, this one is too quiet... kinda like puppy picking but better. You can sort-of see their future just from how they act.

Kids are the worst Pokemon players though. I'd rather play with people on my level.

So... the age you're currently at, then?

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[Tasty]

Yes, exactly. Which makes for good adoption choosing: This one is too bratty, this one is too quiet... kinda like puppy picking but better. You can sort-of see their future just from how they act.

That seems... unnecessarily nihilistic in a way. Saying you won't choose a kid if they're too bratty is one thing, but saying they'll always be like that? 

[Shadow Mod]

That thread is awful. Instead of admitting we shit on people and make it easier to go on Welfare than work, they're just going to sit there and go "buh she should have used birth control." We're past that point you sheltered babied dipshits. For a site that hates conservatives so much they sure as fuck act like them when it comes to social safety nets.

[nudemacusers]

you can be gay all you want, just don't be poor and gay.

[Phoenix Dark]

If you don't admit MJ was a pedophile you lost. It's impossible to have that much smoke yet no fire. He looked at child porn and slept with children in his bed - end of story.

[Shadow Mod]

you can be gay all you want, just don't be poor and gay.

People who don't want to "subsidize the poor or other people" don't realize they're already doing it. They're also subsidizing the rich. Now personally I'd rather subsidize the poor and give people in this country better living standards and support than most of the other bullshit my taxes go to. But then again I'm not some internet socially maladjusted selfish motherfucker.

[Himu]

What child porn did MJ look at?

[Phoenix Dark]

dunno what it's called, I'm not a pedophile.

[nudemacusers]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=68180371&postcount=651

   

[Himu]

If Michael Jackson looked at kiddie porn, then he would have been bagged for children porn on multiple occasions. He wasn't. They searched his entire house and found a SHIT LOAD of porn, none of it illegal. Now, it IS weird to sleep in the same bed as children, and invite them for sleep overs. But I don't think it's all pretty assuming. I don't think it's definite evidence he was a pedophile.

[thisismyusername]

Yes, exactly. Which makes for good adoption choosing: This one is too bratty, this one is too quiet... kinda like puppy picking but better. You can sort-of see their future just from how they act.

That seems... unnecessarily nihilistic in a way. Saying you won't choose a kid if they're too bratty is one thing, but saying they'll always be like that? 

  Just an observation I've had. Most kids that are brats then become snotty elitists later in life. Yeah, there's exceptions where people suddenly have their world turned upside down but that's just how it is.

Also Demi: I'm sure you're waiting for Nick Frost to post similar  

[fistfulofmetal]

you're not a black male anymore, himu. you don't need to defend michael jackson to vehemently

[Himu]

[Phoenix Dark]

[MIMIC]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=612971

enjoy; I'm out. no more OT for me.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=68052141&postcount=78

I have no words.

You know, I always think the "XYZ is getting worse" argument is usually a fallacy. But in GAF's case, I'm absolutely convinced by now. There are so many dumb motherfuckers posting, I need to finally find a way to get away.

I posted that I was having problems with my contact lenses (that I have been wearing for 14 years) and someone suggested that I may have them inside-out. 

I intentionally posted how long I have been wearing them so as to not get the "just blink a few times", "take them out and put the back in"....like I just started wearing them yesterday or something.

But alas....

If you don't admit MJ was a pedophile you lost. It's impossible to have that much smoke yet no fire. He looked at child porn and slept with children in his bed - end of story.

I never really kept up with the MJ pedo drama.

Do people think that he actually touched the kids inappropriately? From that thread, it's obvious that he liked looking at that kind of stuff, but did he take it even further?

[Raban]

there's an interview on Norm MacDonald's show with Simon Helberg who was invited to Neverland Ranch as a child and explained how they would play a game of tag in a room full of stage smoke, where you can imagine there was a lot of "accidental" touching. Skip to 1:04:33 (< or just click that)

I'm not saying MJ got to third base with a kid, but that's close enough for me.

[Shadow Mod]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=68172486&postcount=599

Is having a telephone necessary? Or a cell phone? I can go either way with this one. I know growing up many times we had our telephone cut off because we couldn't pay the bill. I remember my mom telling me many times she was going next door to the neighbor's house to make a phone call. With so many people having cell phones these days, lets say you don't have one and there is an emergency - kid gets hurt, bad accident, you can always make the call on someone else's phone or ask them to make it for you. Its inconvenient to do this, but part of being poor is that you are greatly inconvenienced by a lot of things and have to figure out how to get by with little.

What a fucking idiot.

[Himu]

there's an interview on Norm MacDonald's show with Simon Helberg who was invited to Neverland Ranch as a child and explained how they would play a game of tag in a room full of stage smoke, where you can imagine there was a lot of "accidental" touching. Skip to 1:04:33 (< or just click that)

I'm not saying MJ got to third base with a kid, but that's close enough for me.

what the fuck

[nudemacusers]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=68172486&postcount=599

Is having a telephone necessary? Or a cell phone? I can go either way with this one. I know growing up many times we had our telephone cut off because we couldn't pay the bill. I remember my mom telling me many times she was going next door to the neighbor's house to make a phone call. With so many people having cell phones these days, lets say you don't have one and there is an emergency - kid gets hurt, bad accident, you can always make the call on someone else's phone or ask them to make it for you. Its inconvenient to do this, but part of being poor is that you are greatly inconvenienced by a lot of things and have to figure out how to get by with little.

What a fucking idiot.

I'm just assuming it's satire; I mean, kid gets hurt, use a neighbor's phone? lawlz

[Broseidon]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=68188851&postcount=18

dude sounds like one of those obnoxious straight edger types

[Your Stalker]

health nut gaf is the best

[milchs evil twin]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=68172486&postcount=599

Is having a telephone necessary? Or a cell phone? I can go either way with this one. I know growing up many times we had our telephone cut off because we couldn't pay the bill. I remember my mom telling me many times she was going next door to the neighbor's house to make a phone call. With so many people having cell phones these days, lets say you don't have one and there is an emergency - kid gets hurt, bad accident, you can always make the call on someone else's phone or ask them to make it for you. Its inconvenient to do this, but part of being poor is that you are greatly inconvenienced by a lot of things and have to figure out how to get by with little.

What a fucking idiot.

It hurts so much. The "internet at the library" suggestion is awesome too. So much flexibility with something that's pretty much a necessity at this point, especially considering the great state of American libraries (as far as I know) outside of population centers, as well as public transport.

As for health GAF, I just worked out drunk. Fuck them.

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=68172486&postcount=599

Is having a telephone necessary? Or a cell phone? I can go either way with this one. I know growing up many times we had our telephone cut off because we couldn't pay the bill. I remember my mom telling me many times she was going next door to the neighbor's house to make a phone call. With so many people having cell phones these days, lets say you don't have one and there is an emergency - kid gets hurt, bad accident, you can always make the call on someone else's phone or ask them to make it for you. Its inconvenient to do this, but part of being poor is that you are greatly inconvenienced by a lot of things and have to figure out how to get by with little.

What a fucking idiot.

It hurts so much. The "internet at the library" suggestion is awesome too. So much flexibility with something that's pretty much a necessity at this point, especially considering the great state of American libraries (as far as I know) outside of population centers, as well as public transport.

As for health GAF, I just worked out drunk. Fuck them.

If they stopped spending all their welfare money on t-bone steaks and crab legs and cadillacs and refrigerators, then they could afford the Internet.

[Phoenix Dark]

Yup I believe MJ touched the kids, exposed himself to kids, etc.

[MCD]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=613811

I am now 19, living in a flat with my boyfriend and attending university, and I've come to accept that I'm not a outgoing person and that I'm not going to have any real-life friends.

dis gun b gud

[Phoenix Dark]

I'd bet good money that she's a tubbo

[fistfulofmetal]

i hate that I can no longer assume it's a chick when they say "boyfriend"

[nudemacusers]

i hate that I can no longer assume it's a chick when they say "boyfriend"

typical cisman

[archie4208]

Edit 3: I feel that I should specify that I am a guy, loads of people keep getting confused and thinking I'm a girl

I bet a bunch of GAFfers feel awkward right about now.

[fistfulofmetal]

see? for fucks sake

[Phoenix Dark]

http://www.the-coli.com/4739738-post90.html