Yet another GAF thread - I still haven't got over it :( (No spergfits allowed)

[Rahxephon91]

Ashe, Basch, and Balthier weren't awful characters and they are who the story really revolves around. 12 has more pointless party members maybe then other FFS, but pretty much every FF has some forgettable party members.

As for being an mmo. I never got that since battles in 12 are pretty fast(or slow if you want them to be) and really it's basically like every other FF game. They are just you flipping through menus as your characters stand there. Except in 12 -if you want- you can set up things that make the characters do all the tedious stuff for you. Since there's no transiitions and battles are pretty quick, you can just run around a nice big open field pretty quickly, far quicker then other FFs. Whats really MMO about it. It's not stand there and wait for cooldowns combat unless you think the ATB counts as a cooldown, but then the ATB bar is in a lot of the other FFs.

[Himu]

What the fuck was good about FF12? I can't think of a single outstanding quality. I guess it was better than Xenosaga?

- best dungeons in the series: Pharos, Giruvegan, Stilshrine of Miriam, Henne Mines, Barheim Passage, Tomb of Raithwall
- thorough bestiary
- best boss fights in the series
- mark side quests and ranking system
- battle system - no spell is wasted and is tuned to gameplay and unlike past 3d FF's there's no filler spells, positioning and movement add another layer to a tried and true formula, the tension of going escaping from level 80 monsters, when you're level 50 across entire maps just to scavenge a single item
- customization, you can make whatever you want so long as you follow a rough plan
- open locations that have varied monsters at different levels and interactions
- open ended exploration that allows you to venture into dungeons that have monsters 20-30 levels above you
- exploration in general
- gambits, which erase a lot of the tedium and mundane tied to jrpgs
- excellent dialogue writing that isn't embarrassing unlike most FF's
- extremely well directed scenes:


- fantastic voice acting
- music
- goat ff

[StealthFan]

nm, I don't actually want to discuss this seriously.

Just like you ain't serious about Duckroll right nicca?

[thisismyusername]

XII is a high budget offline korean mmo starring a gayer version of tidus in a world designed for furries, tho.

Don't you be talking about Fran that way. 

Also if FFXII had Matsuno's initial vision (Basch as the main character) your second complaint wouldn't be there.

And nothing wrong with a high-budget Korean MMO offline. Means not dealing with :himu 's online.

What the fuck was good about FF12? I can't think of a single outstanding quality. I guess it was better than Xenosaga?

Leaper this filth.

Maybe I didn't play far enough in to get to the good stuff? I put about 20 hours in and didn't see the point in continuing. Ended up playing Persona 4, which was a much better decision.

Edit: In 20 hours I don't remember coming across a really epic boss fight at all.

That's your problem: You went into it at 20 hours and IIRC Hunts don't open up for another 10. Once Hunts are unlocked, you start to get into the real fun of the game.

(Unless you don't have an afternoon to spend kiting around superbosses, then you'll complain about that because "OMG M(non-)MOfflineRPG" instead of giving it a chance)

Then again you like 6, 7 which I found completely overrated and 9 which I found boring (still haven't completed past disc one despite 4-5 attempts to complete that game. Only one in the series besides 11/14 I have YET to complete). So...

[Himu]

Maybe I didn't play far enough in to get to the good stuff? I put about 20 hours in and didn't see the point in continuing. Ended up playing Persona 4, which was a much better decision.

Edit: In 20 hours I don't remember coming across a really epic boss fight at all.

nm, I don't actually want to discuss this seriously.

Just like you ain't serious about Duckroll right nicca?

Not especially, no.

There ARE online forum people who I'd absolutely love to see dragged before me in chains, but duckroll isn't really one of them.

Most of the best boss fights are marks.

But there's stuff like this:

[Phoenix Dark]

FFIV

[Kara]

Don't you be talking about Fran that way. 

 

[thisismyusername]

Seriously though: Why HD-ize X and X-2 before XII?!  Fucking Square. You don't want my money.

[thisismyusername]

  I can't argue against that... 

(Seriously though: X gave XIII hallwAIDS. Fuck X and X-2 isn't as amazing as people make it out to be)

[Himu]

Username, Esch likes the game where the game is just rock paper scissors ad nauseum. tidus -> dog, lulu -> flan, wakka -> bird thing. A vapid formula that doesn't expand upon its concepts past hour two. Let's not forget that all you do is press up the whole. don't pay attention to him.

[Kara]

[Rahxephon91]

X got an HD version because X is great.

[StealthFan]

X was ehhhhhhhhhhh. Tons of hype at the time, and it was ok I guess. That linearity tho...

[benjipwns]

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=105228632&postcount=167

 

[Tasty]

"So that's pretty much basic sexualities in a nutshell."



When you need a butterfly chart, shit ain't basic.

[Broseidon]

Broseidon

[thisismyusername]

X got an HD version because X is great.

X is 

Not as much as IX, but the CTB system is forgotten within hour five.

Buff Auron (or any other character, I guess but Auron is the best person in that series), with using the sphere grid stuff on him and only him. Proceed to lay waste for the rest of the game, nearly.

[Broseidon]

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=105228632&postcount=167

 

That's like the least mongy post I've seen him make.

And he included Ace folks too
They get shit on and denied a lot worse than bi peeps do, especially in the LGBT community

[thisismyusername]

Ace? Never heard that term, explain it?

[Broseidon]

Asexual

[thisismyusername]

Asexual

Never heard it referenced like that.

"So that's pretty much basic sexualities in a nutshell."



When you need a butterfly chart, shit ain't basic.

Well, basic in terms of "elementary/101."

Then again sexuality terms becomes a completely muddy quagmire when you start to flip it out into transgender and stuff.

[larrydavid]

Seriously though: Why HD-ize X and X-2 before XII?!  Fucking Square. You don't want my money.

real answer: X is way more popular than XII.  as an added bonus, they need to pack at least two games in to meet scea's stupid rules on physical hd releases, and square knows they can make more money in the long run with X and XII as separate rereleases.  X has a readily available second game that even uses a ton of the same assets, while XII has.... a DS game?

is that stupid SCEA rule really still a thing? I thought they had wised up and relaxed the rules, like I think that happened with the PSP when it entered the no one gives a shit phase of its life and I figured the same thing would be happening with PS3 and Vita.

[Kara]

still in place as far as i know for PS3.  don't know if it ever was in place for the Vita?  or if it's a "substantial new content" thing?  but yeah, if you want to do a physical release of an HD classic on PS3, it has to be in packs of two.  that's something they've always clung to until the bitter end (arc the lad, growlanser generations).

sony is all about the gamers

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sheesh i forgot how ridic x-2 is



knocking on the door of the wall market or golden saucer here

[doctavius bonbon]

"So that's pretty much basic sexualities in a nutshell."



When you need a butterfly chart, shit ain't basic.

That's actually just one layer in a three-dimensional triple intersecting ovoid chart.

[thisismyusername]

X-2 opening is but I love it. Too bad the rest of the game is 

[Himu]

X-2 kicks ass and is part of the part of the holy final fantasy quintet.

[Tasty]

More like the smelly final fantasy queeftet amiright

[Himu]

Awwww look. Andrex learned what a queef is! Isn't that adorable?

[Tasty]

[Himu]

Not...not really

[Phoenix Dark]

this thread

[Atramental]

I do like a good queef every now n then.

[Joe Molotov]

I do like a good queef every now n then.

[StealthFan]

[Broseidon]

Am I the only one who's noticed the very strong trend of people with Walter White/BB avatars being twats and/or shitty posters? I can't think of anyone with one who isn't.

[Your Stalker]

we noticed that months ago

[Tasty]

we noticed that months ago

Yup.

[Broseidon]

I see.

[CatsCatsCats]

this thread

Time for another reboot?

[Michael Moaner]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=105294920&postcount=73

 

[Shadow Mod]

Those idiots are tarnishing the legacy of tv's greatest hero.

He's their hero. Passive aggressive nerdy family man turned big balled drug dealer. It's their fantasy bro.

[etiolate]

Nah, Kevin Sorbo is still safe.

[Shadow Mod]

man even going out bjb made opiate have some feels

[Himu]

Those idiots are tarnishing the legacy of tv's greatest hero.

He's their hero. Passive aggressive nerdy family man turned big balled drug dealer. It's their fantasy bro.

i don't think you read the breaking bad and Awesom-o's opinion on WW

[Steve Contra]

I had no idea there were people who liked Walter White 

[Shadow Mod]

I had no idea there were people who liked Walter White 

Just think about the types who would and where they might post.

[Michael Moaner]

man even going out bjb made opiate have some feels

he's one of GAF's better posters

[StealthFan]

I think she has and is making fun of him.

[king of the internet]

man even going out bjb made opiate have some feels

he's one of GAF's better posters

I wouldn't go that far.

Is he a Bore poster? Seems like it.

[Himu]

I had no idea there were people who liked Walter White 

Just think about the types who would and where they might post.

www.thebore.com

[nudemacusers]

I had no idea there were people who liked Walter White 

he's just doing it for his family

[Steve Contra]

I had no idea there were people who liked Walter White 

Just think about the types who would and where they might post.

White males, everywhere on the internet

[Eli Gulgin]

Anyone notice how the chick (?) who posted the thread about the sex offender moving in her neighborhood posted two pics on GAF only to delete them immediately after someone recognized they were pictures of a fitness model?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=105248369&postcount=578

I mean I'm not saying she's not really a single mom working as a stripper to pay for her PhD in astronautical engineering, maybe she's just fugly and that's why she used pictures of a model instead of pics of herself.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=102895031&postcount=255

Brehs it must be hard to be a genius, have a kid, be a stripper and have a pedo neighbor, you can't be expected to be beautiful as well. Sometimes you just gotta fake it.

[Michael Moaner]

Anyone notice how the chick (?) who posted the thread about the sex offender moving in her neighborhood posted two pics on GAF only to delete them immediately after someone recognized they were pictures of a fitness model?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=105248369&postcount=578

I mean I'm not saying she's not really a single mom working as a stripper to pay for her PhD in astronautical engineering, maybe she's just fugly and that's why she used pictures of a model instead of pics of herself.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=102895031&postcount=255

Brehs it must be hard to be a genius, have a kid, be a stripper and have a pedo neighbor, you can't be expected to be beautiful as well. Sometimes you just gotta fake it.

What the fuck...

[Shadow Mod]

There's a couple of people who play pretend women on GAF. They're pretty noticeable at times.

[CatsCatsCats]

My friend has this ex, who is fucking nuts. She routinely tries to pass off pictures of other people as her on Facebook by throwing a filter or two over them. Thing is, she's actually quite physically attractive. Some people are just off their rocker, man.

[Purple Filth]

I had no idea there were people who liked Walter White 

he was alright 

[Atramental]

There's a couple of people who play pretend women on GAF. They're pretty noticeable at times.

Pretend women? On GAF? 

[Your Stalker]

There's a couple of people who play pretend women on GAF. They're pretty noticeable at times.

Pretend women? On GAF? 

Is there something you're not telling us?

[Takao]

we noticed that months ago

eggman