Brown graphics, QTEs, escort missions, context sens moves-- an RE4 thread

[Don Flamenco]

In celebration of RE5 finally being announced after the franchise has had a long 8 year break,  talk about how fucking awesome RE4 is.   


I just passed the part with the giant Salazar statue.  You cross the bridge and the giant statue takes it out-- the game is like "NOPE, STILL NO BACKTRACKING" after you've been running forward through unique maps for like 12 hours aside from very light backtracking to get into the church.  Been through here a bunch of times, but it still gives me the chills, knowing the next chapter is gonna be somewhere completely different that I haven't visited yet.   

[fistfulofmetal]

RE4 started to lose me a little when it got to zombie biker island.

[Don Flamenco]

RE4 started to lose me a little when it got to zombie biker island.

BAN HIM 

In all seriousness, I like how they gradually introduce the enemies.  RE5 is like zombies with chain guns right off the bat...by RE6 it's basically a well trained and disciplined zombie army.

[Himu]

Best game ever. 360 version controls take getting used to but after that it is go time.

The fucking labs are coming up soon for you Don.

[Himu]

RE4 started to lose me a little when it got to zombie biker island.

BAN HIM 

In all seriousness, I like how they gradually introduce the enemies.  RE5 is like zombies with chain guns right off the bat...by RE6 it's basically a well trained and disciplined zombie army.

This is false. They don't use guns in RE5 until the last two chapters.

[Don Flamenco]

aren't they in that early rail section?   oh well, im prob misremembering.


and yeah, psyched for the labs.   just waiting for the sun to go down to play (it shines right on my TV),  hopefully beat this thing today. 

I like the end of the previous chapter, where you get up to the door and think you're gonna just head right through to the tower.  NOPE, gotta get through a giant underground section first to get the key!  My mind was blown the first time I played that part.

[Himu]

Enemies don't take out guns until you're well into the manufacturing plant and lab. The first time they introduce guns they also introduce the cover.mechanic and that is at the end of the game.

[Cerveza mas fina]

I played it on the Wii, game felt so damn tight with the wiimote.

[Himu]

WIi version as good as it feels, is ez mode. 360 version I hard after getting used to wii version.

[Don Flamenco]

i couldn't get into the wii controls.  i play the game in multi-hour chunks, so it gets annoying holding up my arm to aim the whole time.    and for some reason, I was getting annihilated at the section after you meet the merchant the first time. 

[Cerveza mas fina]

I tried playing re5 a few times but its so hard without the wiimote youre righy himu wii is ez mode

[Phoenix Dark]

Perfectly paced game. I also like how the enemies gradually get tougher. First you're mowing down melee towns folk, then they start throwing shit at you, then that chainsaw guy. That shit is tense, especially as he runs up the stairs.

So RE5 isn't good? I kind of want to get it on PC

[Himu]

RE5 is great.

It just isn't RE4. But not many games are.

[Beezy]

RE5 is one of the very few games this gen that I played through multiple times.

[SantaC]

RE4 started to lose me a little when it got to zombie biker island.

that reminds me

[Himu]

RE5 is one of the very few games this gen that I played through multiple times.

Game isn't as good as RE4 but definitely has a better post game. Getting 100%

[fistfulofmetal]

RE5 is one of the very few games this gen that I played through multiple times.

So bad you needed to reassure yourself it wasn't all just a sick fever dream? Then the cold reality hits you and you realize life is nothing but a bitter disappointment where everything is terrible and nothing makes sense?

[fistfulofmetal]

A crushing feeling of solemn and realization. You try to paint your current state with the memories of years gone by but it's not possible. Nothing can lift this off your back.

[fistfulofmetal]

RE5 sucked.

[fistfulofmetal]

But yeah, RE4 was pretty good.

[Human Snorenado]

That's a bunch of hyperbole... boulder punching aside, RE5 was a fine action game.  It just wasn't RE4, but as has been said previously in the thread, few games are.

Then again, why expect a guy sexually attracted to little girls to be capable of reason.

[Himu]

 

[fistfulofmetal]

That's a bunch of hyperbole... boulder punching aside, RE5 was a fine action game. 

Nah. It was trash. It had awful forced co-op design with tedious levels and enemies. Nothing about it was interesting. It just gets worse and worse. Finally you're Gears of War-ing it up with THE WORST COVER MECHANICS in video games.

[Himu]

Forced co op design? You mean the game I 1000d by myself without ever playing co op? Trash design? It is mostly the same as RE4 with less variety and even RE5 has moments that shine (the swamp lands, the sun palace). You mention GoW cover shooting but RE4 had the SAME EXACT THING.

[Don Flamenco]

Perfectly paced game. I also like how the enemies gradually get tougher. First you're mowing down melee towns folk, then they start throwing shit at you, then that chainsaw guy. That shit is tense, especially as he runs up the stairs.

So RE5 isn't good? I kind of want to get it on PC

it's got the TPS part down and a fair amount of unlockables including mercs which makes it worth playing for sure, but it is a step down from RE4 in all other areas.   

[fistfulofmetal]

The entire game is designed around co-op. Regardless of how you played it, it's a co-op game first and foremost and it's terrible. And I do not recall RE4 having cover mechanics at all. It got shooty at the end, and it was when the game started to lose me (as mentioned before), but it goes FULL BRO SHOOTER in RE5 and is aggressively bad.

[Himu]

RE5 has superior replay value, more collectibles and unlockables, better Mercs mode (being online), and more tight controls. However, it isn't as well designed as RE4, lacks its hilarity and AAA script, difficulty, and sense of isolation. RE4 is best game all time material. RE5 was just goty status. That doesn't make it bad though. No game I replay 5-6 times with a clock of 50 hours can be bad.

I can understand not liking RE5 as much as 4. I don't either. But the endless hyperbole surrounding 5 is annoying. Speaking as someone who 100%d the game without touching co op once I think a lot of people discredit the game without any merit.

[Human Snorenado]

Forced co op design? You mean the game I 1000d by myself without ever playing co op? Trash design? It is mostly the same as RE4 with less variety and even RE5 has moments that shine (the swamp lands, the sun palace). You mention GoW cover shooting but RE4 had the SAME EXACT THING.

Irrational haters gonna hate, Himu. 

RE5 is like the first girl you kinda get serious with after that major relationship to date in your life.  You had some fun with her... but couldn't stop comparing her to that earlier girl, and it just didn't work!  Or something.  You guys can find me writing reviews of games for Jezebel, coming soon.

[Himu]

The entire game is designed around co-op. Regardless of how you played it, it's a co-op game first and foremost and it's terrible. And I do not recall RE4 having cover mechanics at all. It got shooty at the end, and it was when the game started to lose me (as mentioned before), but it goes FULL BRO SHOOTER in RE5 and is aggressively bad.

Remember in RE4 when the helicopter dude.was.blowing dudes up and you were using cover to not get shot up my the mini gun guys with the berets?

No? Then shut the fuck up.

[Beezy]

There's the fistful I love to hate.

That's a bunch of hyperbole... boulder punching aside, RE5 was a fine action game.  It just wasn't RE4, but as has been said previously in the thread, few games are.

What? Boulder punching was great!

[fistfulofmetal]

Remember in RE4 when the helicopter dude.was.blowing dudes up and you were using cover to not get shot up my the mini gun guys with the berets?

NOPE. you see when a game shines so bright the blemishes tend to get overshadowed. WHEN THE GAME itself is a blemish the many blemishes are like pretty noticeable.

[Human Snorenado]

QTEs in general are trash, and let's be real, just say "boulder punching" and it's an instant punchline.

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Yes.  That was intentional.

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[Himu]

Remember in RE4 when the helicopter dude.was.blowing dudes up and you were using cover to not get shot up my the mini gun guys with the berets?

NOPE. you see when a game shines so bright the blemishes tend to get overshadowed. WHEN THE GAME itself is a blemish the many blemishes are like pretty noticeable.

[fistfulofmetal]

When we play through MGS3 we know having to constantly change camo and eat can get a bit tedious but the game as a whole is a fantastic experience and we can forgive the minor flaw.

When we play through HL2 we know the airboat sequence goes a little long but the game is such a bar rising experience that the small fault can be forgotten.

[Don Flamenco]

i think, at best, it's a lateral move for the franchise.  Some things took a step back, some things improved...everything seems to have a counter aspect that sucks/is good.  It's like RE4.2 or RE3.8, depending on how you look at it.  That's why i'm calling mikami's new game RE5

When we play through HL2 we know the airboat sequence goes a little long but the game is such a bar rising experience that the small fault can be forgotten.

HL2 is a bit "you had to be there."   When I played it, I could recognize the awesomeness, but also felt it dragged and was too long in the tooth.

[fistfulofmetal]

BUT WHEN YOU HAVE TO SLOG THROUGH HOURS OF BORING GENERIC ACTION THAT MEANS NOTHING AND BRINGS NOTHING TO THE TABLE AND THEN HAVE TO DEAL WITH SHODDY COVER MECHANICS AND ENEMIES WHO THINK THEY ARE IN A COMPETENT SHOOTER, YOU'RE LESS LIKELY TO ACCEPT THIS AS A SMALL BLACK MARK

[Don Flamenco]

 

[Himu]

BUT WHEN YOU HAVE TO SLOG THROUGH HOURS OF BORING GENERIC ACTION THAT MEANS NOTHING AND BRINGS NOTHING TO THE TABLE AND THEN HAVE TO DEAL WITH SHODDY COVER MECHANICS AND ENEMIES WHO THINK THEY ARE IN A COMPETENT SHOOTER, YOU'RE LESS LIKELY TO ACCEPT THIS AS A SMALL BLACK MARK

GUNS OMG SOMEONE BURN THIS GAME

[Cerveza mas fina]

I got HL2 at launch and never finished it cause it dragged on.

[Steve Contra]

Sounds like Fistful just sucked at RE5.  Don't like the cover mechanic?  Don't use it, play it like a man.

[Rahxephon91]

The entire game is designed around co-op. Regardless of how you played it, it's a co-op game first and foremost and it's terrible. And I do not recall RE4 having cover mechanics at all. It got shooty at the end, and it was when the game started to lose me (as mentioned before), but it goes FULL BRO SHOOTER in RE5 and is aggressively bad.

It's also a pretty terrible co-op game. Like did they not have any ideas they could use? Did they just see Gears and felt the need to half ass co-op in the game with no interesting co-op situations.

And if you don't play co-op. The boss battles are just kind of silly in how dumb the ai behaves.

[Himu]

Sounds like Fistful just sucked at RE5.  Don't like the cover mechanic?  Don't use it, play it like a man.

[Himu]

The entire game is designed around co-op. Regardless of how you played it, it's a co-op game first and foremost and it's terrible. And I do not recall RE4 having cover mechanics at all. It got shooty at the end, and it was when the game started to lose me (as mentioned before), but it goes FULL BRO SHOOTER in RE5 and is aggressively bad.

It's also a pretty terrible co-op game. Like did they not have any ideas they could use? Did they just see Gears and felt the need to half ass co-op in the game with no interesting co-op situations.

And if you don't play co-op. The boss battles are just kind of silly in how dumb the ai behaves.

Again, false. Great co op game. You say there's no interesting co op situations when I can think of plenty right off the bat. Like the Licker room where one person is stuck inside a room while another snipes lickers from afar. These lickers SWARM THE ENTIRE ROOM so you have to think fast and group together in order to just survive. Never mind the whole hold Jill in order to beat her situation. It is like half of RE5 dissenters haven't played it.

You're right about the bosses but the boss fights are all shit and the biggest flaw in the game.

[Steve Contra]

RE5 Speedruns

[Himu]

I REBOUGHT THE GAME ON RE5 JUST SO WE COULD SPEED RUN IT CONTRA. but you never played with me.

[Steve Contra]

My hard drive shit the bed and I lost my save

[Himu]

I lost my save too man. I'm here for you. I'm here. We could go through it again though. Being RE5 vets I'm sure Pro mode wouldn't be a hassle.

[Positive Touch]

re5 gets a lot of hate for the same reason re3 did - it didnt bring much new to the table. they both followed up groundbreaking games and both played it safe instead of trying to outdo the huge changes the previous entries had brought. but both 3 and 5 and solid as fuck and endlessly replayable even tho they dont hit the same highs 2 and 4 do.

i really wish capcom woulda patched in saves for the dlc so i could finish them :'(

[Himu]

RE3

[Phoenix Dark]

Are Leon and Ashley in RE5?

[Positive Touch]

yup theyre the main characters

[Phoenix Dark]

 

I meant RE5

[Human Snorenado]

Chris is the main character in RE5.  Jill shows up too.  Also, you get to play as a strong black woman named Sheva, who don't need no man.

[Phoenix Dark]

Do you have to play as a black character? Might not get the game if I have to play as a thug black woman 

[Human Snorenado]

She's like, African you dummy.  The game is set in Africa.  And no, you can play as Chris, but she'll be around as a partner and shit.

[Don Flamenco]

RE3

i'll admit I've never even booted up RE3.  it's not cause I've been told it sucks or anything, it just hasn't happened yet.  I just started picking away at RE2 again, so 3 is after that. 

[Don Flamenco]

She's like, African you dummy.  The game is set in Africa.  And no, you can play as Chris, but she'll be around as a partner and shit.

also she's a lefty, so she's a bit weird to control. 

[demi]

PD will never play a Resident Evil.

I might have to fire up the 360 version. I've never played Separate Ways and other content.

[Himu]

Separate Ways is hit and miss. PD you can play as the African girl after beating the game. She has a cute accent and is a lefty (superior hand).

[Don Flamenco]

yeah Sheva's character model