Xbone Reveal Official Thread

[maxy]

A friend of mine who writes for a big Xbox site mentions strong rumors of MS unveiling an exclusive Japanese RPG for the system. Really hope that this isn't Lost Odyssey 2, I don't want to buy Xbone and that game would probably sell me on one 

1 down...1 billion more to go.

[MCD]

I doubt they will do another Blue Dragon or Lost Odyssey any time soon. I like both and Gooch is a handsome mustache but considering MS didn't green light Alan Wake and went for a total new IP instead, yeah this isn't happening.

Plus Tri-Ace (Star Ocean 4 didn't happen) or someone else in Japan can make less expensive games for about the same value.

[Himu]

A friend of mine who writes for a big Xbox site mentions strong rumors of MS unveiling an exclusive Japanese RPG for the system. Really hope that this isn't Lost Odyssey 2, I don't want to buy Xbone and that game would probably sell me on one 

Haha

Hahahaha

[Momo]

The Gooch deserves better

[Steve Contra]

A friend of mine who writes for a big Xbox site mentions strong rumors of MS unveiling an exclusive Japanese RPG for the system. Really hope that this isn't Lost Odyssey 2, I don't want to buy Xbone and that game would probably sell me on one 

[maxy]

From Amazon.



 

[demi]

We should get Francis to post here, demi needs more bears

He's not a bear, far from it I'm afraid.

[mjemirzian]

"infinite power of the cloud", are they seriously using that phrase?

[Don Flamenco]

he's a doughboy.  is that the correct slang?  can it be?

[Human Snorenado]

We should get Francis to post here, demi needs more bears

He's not a bear, far from it I'm afraid.

I'm sorry, I'll read up on the weird fat people fetishes.  Since I'm hairy, do I qualify as a bear?

[Vertigo]

A friend of mine who writes for a big Xbox site mentions strong rumors of MS unveiling an exclusive Japanese RPG for the system. Really hope that this isn't Lost Odyssey 2, I don't want to buy Xbone and that game would probably sell me on one 

LO2 would be cool at least this time people can admit they like it. Now Final Fantasy has had it's wig ripped off.

If MS is funding another JRPG I'm hoping for a new Panzer Dragoon saga RPG or even maybe a sequel to Skies Of Arcadia.

reality of that is probably low as hell.

[demi]

We should get Francis to post here, demi needs more bears

He's not a bear, far from it I'm afraid.

I'm sorry, I'll read up on the weird fat people fetishes.  Since I'm hairy, do I qualify as a bear?

If you've got a muffin top, you qualify in my book.

[Human Snorenado]

A friend of mine who writes for a big Xbox site mentions strong rumors of MS unveiling an exclusive Japanese RPG for the system. Really hope that this isn't Lost Odyssey 2, I don't want to buy Xbone and that game would probably sell me on one 

Considering MS not only did not invite any Japanese media to the event, but actually blocked the ones who came on their own dime from attending, I wouldn't count on MS spending a plug nickel on anything for the Japanese market.  They've ceded it entirely.

'MERICA!

[Phoenix Dark]

The Japanese market is irrelevant, especially for MS. I'm more baffled by them apparently blowing Europe off.

[brob]

bu-bu-but fifa ultimate team

[archie4208]

MS must be banking on China lifting their console ban. 

[brob]

must be a real pain in microsoft's ass trying to negotiate deals with TV providers in Europe tho. I wonder if they will just nix that entire part of the package or if they'll pretend to try.

[Himu]

Haha how is ms going to get 1 billion in sales when they're mainly targeting USA? Is this company stupid?

[Flannel Boy]

[Sho Nuff]

A friend of mine who writes for a big Xbox site mentions strong rumors of MS unveiling an exclusive Japanese RPG for the system. Really hope that this isn't Lost Odyssey 2, I don't want to buy Xbone and that game would probably sell me on one 

Considering MS not only did not invite any Japanese media to the event, but actually blocked the ones who came on their own dime from attending, I wouldn't count on MS spending a plug nickel on anything for the Japanese market.  They've ceded it entirely.

Holy shit 

Are there any news articles about this?

[Himu]

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Microsoft-Blames-Gaming-Media-Xbox-One-Consumer-Rage-56056.html

microsoft.

stahp.

STAHP.

You've already damaged your brand and made yourself into a joke overnight. STAHP.

[Himu]

The Japanese market is irrelevant, especially for MS. I'm more baffled by them apparently blowing Europe off.

i love how people suddenly make out an ENTIRE COUNTRY with hundreds of millions of people as suddenly irrelevant because by golly, they play games differently than we do.

[Great Rumbler]

[Himu]

That video alone has seen 1.2 million views. Microsoft has tainted the well and angered the people who would be interested in buying their system this holiday. Bets on xbone sales by the end of this year? wii u first year sales?

[ManaByte]

Wii U will outsell Xbone this year.

[Joe Molotov]

So you're all laughing at Microsoft's Xboner, are you? Microsoft will show you how many Xboners they can make!

[Flannel Boy]

 

[Flannel Boy]

[Himu]

at Sandor Clegane as Kinect

[archnemesis]

A friend of mine who writes for a big Xbox site mentions strong rumors of MS unveiling an exclusive Japanese RPG for the system. Really hope that this isn't Lost Odyssey 2, I don't want to buy Xbone and that game would probably sell me on one 

Considering MS not only did not invite any Japanese media to the event, but actually blocked the ones who came on their own dime from attending, I wouldn't count on MS spending a plug nickel on anything for the Japanese market.  They've ceded it entirely.

Holy shit 

Are there any news articles about this?

Wasn't there a very limited number of seats? Famitsu was there, but no other Japanese sites or magazines.

[Phoenix Dark]

The Japanese market is irrelevant, especially for MS. I'm more baffled by them apparently blowing Europe off.

They're going to have a hard time reaching that goal of one billion sold if they're just blowing off industrialized countries with over a hundred million people.

They don't need to sell a billion of anything to make this successful. MS sold a shit ton of 360s with next to no presense in Japan, they can do it again theoretically. But they likely won't because the system seems to disregard Europe. Might as well name it USAbox

[Momo]

The Japanese market is irrelevant, especially for MS. I'm more baffled by them apparently blowing Europe off.

The Japanese consumer may be irrelevant to them, but they sure as hell need Japanese developers else this thing will fall even harder into a pool of shit jelly than it is already looking to.

[archnemesis]

Popular western games like Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto still sell pretty well in Japan. The market might not be worth buying third-party exclusives for, but it's not insignificant.

[archnemesis]

You also have Dark Souls and several smaller franchises in genres such as RPG and fighting. Each individually doesn't matter, but if you add them together they still sell a decent amount in America, right? It might also steer away fans to the PS4 and then they'll lose some of the sports and shooting sales.

[maxy]

Kojima was pretty cold after PS4 reveal,maybe they have something with him.

[archnemesis]

They're nice to have, but I think a platform could make a fine go of it in the USA without them.

You're probably right. I asked a friend about his opinions of the new Xbox and his reply was "I just want to play FIFA". He will stick with his 360 as long as they continue to release FIFA for it and then upgrade to the next Xbox.

[maxy]

They're nice to have, but I think a platform could make a fine go of it in the USA without them.

You're probably right. I asked a friend about his opinions of the new Xbox and his reply was "I just want to play FIFA". He will stick with his 360 as long as they continue to release FIFA for it and then upgrade to the next Xbox.

Lots of people in my country are like that,they just want play Fifa and will move to next gen when it gets exclusive Fifa.

[archnemesis]

The first two years are going decide which system they pick up. The brand loyalty of FIFA-only players is very low and they'll just go with whichever box has the lower price and bigger market share.

[maxy]

They have friends loyalty.

Fifa offline is booooring, apparently.

[Powerslave]

Are you guys seriously discussing their 1 billion users marketing bullshit? They said the same thing with the 360.

[Powerslave]

A friend of mine who writes for a big Xbox site mentions strong rumors of MS unveiling an exclusive Japanese RPG for the system. Really hope that this isn't Lost Odyssey 2, I don't want to buy Xbone and that game would probably sell me on one 

That would be pretty idiotic of you.

[Phoenix Dark]

Yeah, I'm just laughing at the Microsoft guy who said they're going to sell a billion, PD.  I know they don't need Japan to reach whatever their goals are, that's pretty clear by how soundly they're sending the message that the country can go fuck itself.

Wait, someone from MS actually said they're gonna sell a billion? Oh man, I assumed you were talking about the 1b software investment comment. I guess each MS guy is trying to 1up the next with baffling statements lmao

I've heard Europe is currently the fastest growing market for gaming, dunno if it's true or not. Still I just don't understand them apparently blowing the region off outside of the "here's FIFA ya freaks" moment. More than a few people there don't have the most steady Internet connections, nor does nearly a half a billion NFL investment matter to them at all. I bet Roger Goddell was excited about that though, given the league's current plans on marketing the sport to the UK; I'd be curious to see whether MS signs a deal with Sky Network within the next few months. The NFL will remain a product UKers casually watch once a year during the London game, out of curiousity; I don't believe the expansion plan will work, and XB1 won't change things.

[Momo]

Do they need Japanese developers?

As a collective, absolutely. Capcom, SEGA, Konami, Eidos, Square Enix, Atlus etc sum up to be quite a significant bunch of sales and would be missed by gamers.

[AdmiralViscen]

Is NG2 that low, or do you count it as US since it's MS published?

[Eel O'Brian]

Think game prices are gonna get a hike? I was pondering a scenario where they back off the used games thing a bit and  give you one "feeless" transfer, but bake it in by bumping game prices $10.

[chronovore]

The Japanese market is irrelevant, especially for MS. I'm more baffled by them apparently blowing Europe off.

The Japanese consumer may be irrelevant to them, but they sure as hell need Japanese developers else this thing will fall even harder into a pool of shit jelly than it is already looking to.

Nope.

Oscar is showing the hard data there, or at least giving a broad, real, data-based picture.

But even without that, can you name a Microsoft published 360 game which came anywhere near returning on its initial investment?

Japanese titles performed poorly overseas overall, and the 360 hardware in Japan can be represented in interpretive dance by flinging the dancer off the roof of the theater and into a pile of garbage. MS put a huge amount of effort into the launch, and Japan pissed all over it. It wouldn't surprise me if MS feels a little like pissing back.

[maxy]

Uhh, doesn't add up to nearly as much as you think in the US, chief.

Do you have some data for the EU?Or even better,if you were a console maker what Japanese games would you push in the EU?

People often say that EU likes Japanese games,not sure how true that is today.

[Powerslave]

   Mostly correct. During the 1990's, MS was
obsessed with potential threats to Windows.
When Sony introduced the PlayStation they
bleated about how it was like putting a computer
in the living room and named their gaming
division 'Sony Computer Entertainment' and blah blah. MS took the imaginary threat seriously and
basically came up with the Xbox to crush what
they thought could be a threat to Windows. It's important to realize that starting in the 1990's
and continuing on until today, everything MS has
created has fundamentally been a reactionary
product. They see a company come up with
something, they decide it could be a threat to
them, and they come up with a similar competing product. There is nothing resembling
a creative impulse at MS, just a constant paranoia
about competition and desire to protect their
Windows monopoly. Macintosh -> Windows
Netscape -> Internet Explorer
Java -> ActiveX
OpenGL -> DirectX
PlayStation -> Xbox
Palm -> Windows Mobile iPod -> Zune
iPhone -> Windows Phone
Google -> Bing And so on and so forth. Once you understand the
kind of company MS is, then you can understand
how they could make something like the Xbone.

m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=59382153


Fucking nailed it.

[maxy]

Stolen from some other forum

When I was grabbing my Wii U yesterday in GAME the dude at the counter said that they have had over 100 pre-orders already for the Xbone at £20 a pop.

Jesus wept.

Game website apparently crashed after X1 reveal.

haha

[Flannel Boy]

A store would have no incentive to build up hype, and thus demand. 

[maxy]

Dunno,but xbots should never be underestimated.360 survived RROD after all,some people from MS deserved to be jailed for life for that if you ask me.


Marketing machine is certainly gearing up.
Call of Duty Ghosts Trailer Champions league final

[magus]

man i'm so annoyed at all this xbox drama,whatever happened to talking about actual stuff? let's talk about the kinect 2,surely there is a chance of finaly making a motion game that work with it right? that should be cool no?

[maxy]

man i'm so annoyed at all this xbox drama,whatever happened to talking about actual stuff? let's talk about the kinect 2,surely there is a chance of finaly making a motion game that work with it right? that should be cool no?

Well they didn't show much exactly,blame MS sloppy performance.It's much easier and fun to harp about negatives too.

There is some interesting stuff about controller though,brb

http://mashable.com/2013/05/21/xbox-ones-new-controller-hands-on/

The two analog sticks are slightly smaller and have been redesigned with new ridges instead of strategically placed bumps. On engineer told me they now take 25-percent less force to move. And then there is the D-Pad which got a much needed design – it’s now a much more aggressive “X” or plus sign.

During a tour of Microsoft’s Xbox Scientific Labs, engineers explained to us that a key change—flipping the rear battery pack 90-degrees and putting it inside the controller — has shifted the center of gravity, making the new device “feel” lighter. It’s true, it did.

The new controller is also filled with some new technology, the most noticeable of which might be the new haptic feedback motors in the triggers, (it also now use magnetic sensors instead of mechanical ones). The Xbox One controllers still have the same two larger motors for gameplay vibration (explosions, getting shot, etc), but now there’s a tiny motor in each trigger, which means you can get new, subtle bits of feedback during gameplay...

On the front of the new controller, you’ll find an IR sensor. It allows it to communicate with the Xbox One’s new Kinect controller. While Microsoft didn’t go into great detail about how this will be used in gameplay, it does add one interesting feature. Imagine there are two people playing in front of an Xbox One. The Kinect knows, via facial recognition, who they are. It also knows, thanks to the IR sensors, who is holding which controller. If the two players switch controllers, they do not start controlling each other’s characters. Instead, Xbox One sees that they are each holding different controllers and communicates with the controllers through Kinect to switch player controls.

There is also a high-speed connection port on the Xbox One controller, but Microsoft wasn’t ready to offer any details on what future peripherals might plug into it.

I bet that port is for some VR glasses.

One of my stops on the Microsoft campus was to a testing lab were they’ve built proprietary systems to torture test the new controllers. From the looks of things, these controllers are fairly tough: I saw a robot arm swinging a controller around to ensure that no random buttons get hit during intense game play or, I guess, anger.

Microsoft has also been putting the near final controllers through a rigorous test where they replicate 10 year's worth of button depressions in two days (that’s roughly 2 million presses, which is 4-5 presses per second). Not only were they testing button durability, but the system also read the actuation on the other side to record any and all fails. I also saw a slo-mo video of a drop-test where the Xbox One controller bounced off a hard floor; only section of plastic popped off, as it was designed to do, so so the engineers could see the real-time effects of the drop on internal components. The engineer told us the controller performed as expected.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Hey guys this dude on the street said crack is cool and all the kids are doing it, apperently its just got a bad rep

[Cerveza mas fina]

Dunno,but xbots should never be underestimated.360 survived RROD after all,some people from MS deserved to be jailed for life for that if you ask me.


Marketing machine is certainly gearing up.
Call of Duty Ghosts Trailer Champions league final

Maxy did you watch the game, for 90 minutes you could see ps4 coming in 2013.

Thats marketing.

No one watches commercials in the break anyway cause then you talk about the game or get beers at the bar.

[maxy]

Yeah,Sony is pretty smart with that.

But don't underestimate MS marketing,notice how it doesn't mention 360.I even noticed few mainstream journalists talking about next COD as X1 exclusive.

[magus]

man i'm so annoyed at all this xbox drama,whatever happened to talking about actual stuff? let's talk about the kinect 2,surely there is a chance of finaly making a motion game that work with it right? that should be cool no?

shut up, andrex

what nintendo games are you most excited to see in the e3 nintendo direct oscar?

[Himu]

Haha maxy brought up 360 surviving trod? Ps2 survived dre. Every person I knew with a ps2 bought at least one to two more ps2s. Thanks for ignoring history!

[maxy]

Haha maxy brought up 360 surviving trod? Ps2 survived dre. Every person I knew with a ps2 bought at least one to two more ps2s. Thanks for ignoring history!

DRE was nowhere near RROD disaster.You can consider yourself very lucky if you managed through first year.Not to mention that RROD repair was far far more complicated(basically impossible).

360 initially had 3 months warranty in US and it even failed to work properly within that time.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Yeah RROD was a much bigger disaster then whatever was wrong with PS2.

I kind of think next gen won't have these problems.