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MCD · « **Reply #2 on:** June 06, 2013, 06:16:28 PM »

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/main

MCD · « **Reply #3 on:** June 06, 2013, 06:17:35 PM »

Here are our platform policies and capabilities for game licensing – all of which will be made available when Xbox One launches later this year:

•Buy the way you want—disc or digital—on the same day: You’ll be able to buy disc-based games at traditional retailers or online through Xbox Live, on day of release. Discs will continue to be a great way to install your games quickly.

•Access your entire games library from any Xbox One—no discs required: After signing in and installing, you can play any of your games from any Xbox One because a digital copy of your game is stored on your console and in the cloud. So, for example, while you are logged in at your friend’s house, you can play your games.

•Share access to your games with everyone inside your home: Your friends and family, your guests and acquaintances get unlimited access to all of your games. Anyone can play your games on your console--regardless of whether you are logged in or their relationship to you.

•Give your family access to your entire games library anytime, anywhere: Xbox One will enable new forms of access for families. Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One. Just like today, a family member can play your copy of Forza Motorsport at a friend’s house. Only now, they will see not just Forza, but all of your shared games. You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time.

•Trade-in and resell your disc-based games: Today, some gamers choose to sell their old disc-based games back for cash and credit. We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers. Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games.

•Give your games to friends: Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.

ManaByte · « **Reply #4 on:** June 06, 2013, 06:18:07 PM »

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #5 on:** June 06, 2013, 06:22:34 PM »

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•Give your games to friends: Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.

Am i reading this right? They are trying to spin drm as a positive?

ManaByte · « **Reply #6 on:** June 06, 2013, 06:23:34 PM »

Quote from: Premium Lager on June 06, 2013, 06:22:34 PM

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•Give your games to friends: Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.

Am i reading this right? They are trying to spin drm as a positive?

Yup

No private sales (no eBay, Amazon). Only through "participating retailers"

No loaning, you can give the game ONCE to someone who is your friend for 30 days.

That means no Gamefly.

Himu · « **Reply #7 on:** June 06, 2013, 06:27:32 PM »

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I CAN'T

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #8 on:** June 06, 2013, 06:29:26 PM »

Wait i can loan my own goddamn game only once?

ManaByte · « **Reply #9 on:** June 06, 2013, 06:30:39 PM »

Quote from: Premium Lager on June 06, 2013, 06:29:26 PM

Wait i can loan my own goddamn game only once?

Give, not loan. They can't loan it back.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #10 on:** June 06, 2013, 06:32:27 PM »

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #11 on:** June 06, 2013, 06:42:55 PM »

Quote from: Premium Lager on June 06, 2013, 06:29:26 PM

Wait i can loan my own goddamn game only once?

You can loan the disc to me as much as you want. I can always use a coaster.

demi · « **Reply #12 on:** June 06, 2013, 06:43:32 PM »

This is too funny. I hope they explain any of this at E3...

Himu · « **Reply #13 on:** June 06, 2013, 06:45:09 PM »

"Loaning or renting games won’t be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners."

OMG

etiolate · « **Reply #14 on:** June 06, 2013, 06:47:11 PM »

It looks like they're backpeddaling some, but if they're going to backpedal this much then they might as well go all the way with it.

The entire system seems like the product of a bunch of corporate hissy-fits.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #15 on:** June 06, 2013, 06:47:54 PM »

Yeah, and it was Adam Orth that hurt the reputation of the Xbox brand.

Himu · « **Reply #16 on:** June 06, 2013, 06:48:10 PM »

etioliate i don't think they can. probably contractual and lots of money involved.

Tasty · « **Reply #17 on:** June 06, 2013, 06:51:00 PM »

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publishers can enable you to trade in your games

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publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends

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Himu · « **Reply #18 on:** June 06, 2013, 06:53:13 PM »

Whoever buys an xbone is worse than anyone who buys a wii u and should be treated accordingly.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #19 on:** June 06, 2013, 06:55:34 PM »

Quote from: Andrex on June 06, 2013, 06:51:00 PM

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publishers can enable you to trade in your games

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publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends

"""""""""can""""""""""

Microsoft: Don't blame us if you can't trade in your game or give it to a friend--blame the publisher!

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #20 on:** June 06, 2013, 06:58:21 PM »

Told you this was never about GameStop

Himu · « **Reply #21 on:** June 06, 2013, 06:59:15 PM »

They're leaving it up to the publishers, much like Sony.

We will see if Sony's policies are nearly as Draconian.

etiolate · « **Reply #22 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:07:24 PM »

The difference seems to be that Sony left this nonsense entirely up to the publishers, the same way online passes were handled. Microsoft put in a system to enable Publishers to block, profit off of, or restrict used game sales and loaning of games. Now that the backlash has hit, they're trying to step away from the blame, but can't just outright remove what they put in to the system.

Himu · « **Reply #23 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:08:10 PM »

Yup.

Also, Sony confirmed their system is not online only which is the crux of the of the One.

I think I'll be getting a ps4 depending on what Sony says.

Beezy · « **Reply #24 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:09:09 PM »

The 3rd console curse is strong in this one.

Himu · « **Reply #25 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:09:57 PM »

Guys, if you want to affect MS with these policies RIGHT NOW, I highly suggest you cancel your xbl gold. I did that very thing.

MCD · « **Reply #26 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:10:12 PM »

MCD · « **Reply #27 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:12:42 PM »

As a MS cigarillo, this pains me more than the death of Zune (RIP).

So long game industry, it was a fun ride.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #28 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:13:22 PM »

Does the meaning of the word "reversal" now mean "slight alteration"?

Himu · « **Reply #29 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:13:50 PM »

There are other ways to play games aside from ms systems.

MCD · « **Reply #30 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:15:08 PM »

There is always my Windows Phone, yeah.

Himu · « **Reply #31 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:16:47 PM »

MCD, why would you want to continue giving MS money period? If there weren't an pc alternative to windows that WASN'T Mac, I'd switch over easy. But Windows fucking Phone?

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #32 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:20:07 PM »

Buying PS4

MCD · « **Reply #33 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:21:03 PM »

My only alternative is a Wii U. There is still time to reverse this policy before I buy a Wii U out of desperation.

Tasty · « **Reply #34 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:24:20 PM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 06, 2013, 07:16:47 PM

MCD, why would you want to continue giving MS money period? If there weren't an pc alternative to windows that WASN'T Mac, I'd switch over easy. But Windows fucking Phone?

Chrome OS

Beezy · « **Reply #35 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:26:41 PM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 06, 2013, 07:09:57 PM

Guys, if you want to affect MS with these policies RIGHT NOW, I highly suggest you cancel your xbl gold. I did that very thing.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #36 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:32:14 PM »

I deleted Word from my computer as a sign of solidarity.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

keeping Excel though

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Tasty · « **Reply #37 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:32:42 PM »

Edit- Wrong thread, meh.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #38 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:33:20 PM »

Quote from: Flannel Boy on June 06, 2013, 07:13:22 PM

Does the meaning of the word "reversal" now mean "slight alteration"?

Microsoft did a 360 on their used games policy.

archie4208 · « **Reply #39 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:33:50 PM »

leper prole

ManaByte · « **Reply #40 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:35:02 PM »

Quote from: Andrex on June 06, 2013, 07:32:42 PM

(Image removed from quote.)

Edit- Wrong thread, meh.

Kuchera is the last person at the end of that chocolate fountain chain.

demi · « **Reply #41 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:37:27 PM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 06, 2013, 07:09:57 PM

Guys, if you want to affect MS with these policies RIGHT NOW, I highly suggest you cancel your xbl gold. I did that very thing.

I was Silver, but I just bought a year of Gold for $20 off ebay. Sorry~

MCD · « **Reply #42 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:38:07 PM »

It's OK. 360 deserves that Gold.

Tasty · « **Reply #43 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:39:06 PM »

Quote from: archie4208 on June 06, 2013, 07:33:50 PM

leper prole

Throw Maxy and MCD on the fire too and we got ourselves a party.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #44 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:43:19 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on June 06, 2013, 07:32:14 PM

I deleted Word from my computer as a sign of solidarity.

keeping Excel though

That's the best game MS ever published.

MCD · « **Reply #45 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:47:21 PM »

Steve Contra · « **Reply #46 on:** June 06, 2013, 07:49:11 PM »

Sony's problem with the ps3 was 599$. Nothing could take away from that. This has been a several week long trainwreck.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #47 on:** June 06, 2013, 08:02:19 PM »

I CANT BELIEVE MICROSOFT IS DOING THIS TO ME AFTER BEING A DEDICATED CUSTOMER FOR YEARS

mjemirzian · « **Reply #48 on:** June 06, 2013, 08:02:45 PM »

Not sure how MS thinks this is going to generate them more revenue than the current used game sales model. The cut they'll get from used game sales will be more than offset by other factors, such as people not buying the system.

Purple Filth · « **Reply #49 on:** June 06, 2013, 08:09:13 PM »

Oscar pls

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #50 on:** June 06, 2013, 08:13:33 PM »

meanwhile all the people i'd class as "bro/casual gamers" from the UK on my facebook page are all posting how thrilled they are to have got their money-down preorder for the X1 secured.

I can see where this is headed.

Purple Filth · « **Reply #51 on:** June 06, 2013, 08:16:52 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 06, 2013, 08:11:40 PM

Well, it's not like they were going to go back on this this far into things.

Now we wait for Sony to drop the other shoe.

I better get some popcorn for this

ManaByte · « **Reply #52 on:** June 06, 2013, 08:23:11 PM »

mjemirzian · « **Reply #53 on:** June 06, 2013, 08:27:22 PM »

I still doubt Sony will implement an "azure cloud" systemwide DRM solution. Even though the result will be the same to the end user, Sony can at least blame EA/Activision for it.

Also, smaller publishers can't afford or won't want to pony up for their own DRM servers.

MCD · « **Reply #54 on:** June 06, 2013, 08:37:57 PM »

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Patrick Klepek in the Giantbomb video for the Xbox One news today said he heard it was Activision, EA and Ubisoft pushing console makers to block used games on a hardware level.

He says it around 8 minutes in.
http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/an-x...own/2300-7459/

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=579020

etiolate · « **Reply #55 on:** June 06, 2013, 08:47:33 PM »

I always assumed it was the major publishers throwing the hissy-fit. Then the cable companies and networks throwing another hissy-fit because they're losing out to PCs and consoles, and then the devs throwing a fit because they don't want to program for an add-on that comes separate. I can understand the add-on bit at least. The rest is adapt or die. There's probably some hissy-fits from other departments inside MS, too, wanting to get their project in on this horsey.

MCD · « **Reply #56 on:** June 06, 2013, 08:49:20 PM »

Bebpo · « **Reply #57 on:** June 06, 2013, 08:49:48 PM »

Quote from: mjemirzian on June 06, 2013, 08:27:22 PM

I still doubt Sony will implement an "azure cloud" systemwide DRM solution. Even though the result will be the same to the end user, Sony can at least blame EA/Activision for it.

Also, smaller publishers can't afford or won't want to pony up for their own DRM servers.

Will be interesting to see what happens.

I can't see Sony & Nintendo ever blocking used games just because they'd lose Japan entirely since the entire ecosystem revolves around selling games a week later and buying them used. Pretty much no better way to make Japan portables only.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #58 on:** June 06, 2013, 08:54:48 PM »

I'd imagine first parties will never charge for it because it's a competitive disadvantage. But if EA is doing it on Xbone then they'll want to do it on PS4 as well.

Tasty · « **Reply #59 on:** June 06, 2013, 08:57:39 PM »

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