E3 2013, Day 2 - Waking up to ash and dust...

[Eel O'Brian]

$499, lol, buy an ipad

[cool breeze]

another reason I liked this conference: there's nothing exclusive that makes me want the Xbox One 

[thisismyusername]

I like this 60 fps on console push.

COD,BF,Halo,Titan

For a few years unless they upgrade their graphics and effects then it's back to 30FPS surely?

I can't imagine devs knowing what "optimization" is on consoles.

It's a shame DR3 is exclusive. Outside of maybe Titanfall (which is going to PC?) all the others I'm excited for from that conference (MGS5, Dark Souls 2, Battlefield 4) are all on PS3/PS4/PC.

Also it took them this long to announce things the PS4 announced day-one of it's reveal? Streaming and Recording gameplay took them that long to hammer out?

And their "PS+" knock-off for gold is a bit of a joke, maybe it'll change next month from backlash. Who knows.

[Madrun Badrun]

They still make Code Red?  Finally something to be excited over.

[MIMIC]

Just saw the MGS V trailer. God yes, do want.

But it's coming to the PS4, right? If the price isn't as steep as the XB1, I'll might bite and get a PS4 (my first Sony console since the PSX, lol)

[Beezy]

Titan Fall is a timed exclusive?

Just saw the MGS V trailer. God yes, do want.

But it's coming to the PS4, right? If the price isn't as steep as the XB1, I'll might bite and get a PS4 (my first Sony console since the PSX, lol)

This is Sony you're talking about.

[Fifstar]

All in all, pretty good show.  For what interests me? not too much.

exclusives:
Black Tusk future-spy game
Remedy's Quantum Break
D4

non exclusives:
Witcher 3
MGS5

I was just saying on chat that, if we ignore all the drama and focus how this conf was put together, it was a great overall. Sony has to have a bunch of hot games or sick burns to one up this. They also need to pack it with PS4 game announcements, and ignore the PS3 and Vita (already there lol).

yeah--keep in mind that I'm the weirdo minority on all this.  Except Ryse, which look awful, everything else was solid, but not for me.  If Sony's show has an equal amount of games of similar variety, then it'd disappoint me, but it could be cool for the mass audience.

Titanfall gives me a strange feeling.  I know it's not for me, because I don't play multiplayer shooters anymore, but it looks fantastic.

Word for word pretty much my thoughts. I think the general public will be pretty pleased with what was shown today, except for maybe graphics which imo only cement what we could speculate so far about XBox one graphical capabilities.

[Don Flamenco]

Just saw the MGS V trailer. God yes, do want.

But it's coming to the PS4, right? If the price isn't as steep as the XB1, I'll might bite and get a PS4 (my first Sony console since the PSX, lol)

yeah, nothing about exclusivity mentioned.


So Ground Zeroes is prob 360/PS3.  Phantom Pain Xbone/PS4

[Raban]

Just saw the MGS V trailer. God yes, do want.

But it's coming to the PS4, right? If the price isn't as steep as the XB1, I'll might bite and get a PS4 (my first Sony console since the PSX, lol)

It's also coming to current-gen consoles, so you might just wanna old off on the twin titanics for now

[Shaka Khan]

Thi4f running on PS4 on GT right now.

[thisismyusername]

Just saw the MGS V trailer. God yes, do want.

But it's coming to the PS4, right? If the price isn't as steep as the XB1, I'll might bite and get a PS4 (my first Sony console since the PSX, lol)

Right. It was never announced as exclusive (and really, Kojima would be stupid to do that after porting Revengence and MGS2/3 to the 360 a few years ago). The writing has been on the wall for the past few years that MGS won't be exclusive to one system.

[Madrun Badrun]

Ground Zero is just the first part of 5.  Like the tanker episode. 

MGS4 was such a mess that I'm trying hard not to be excited about 5.  But damn that looked good. 

[mjemirzian]

Looks like PS4/PC for me next gen.

[Joe Molotov]

They still make Code Red?  Finally something to be excited over.

They even make Livewire again/still.

[Don Flamenco]

Baha Blast behind that Taco Bell DRM

[cool breeze]

Thief 4 ain't looking too hot

[MIMIC]

It's also coming to current-gen consoles, so you might just wanna old off on the twin titanics for now

Holy crap, really?

Nice

[thisismyusername]

It's also coming to current-gen consoles, so you might just wanna old off on the twin titanics for now

Holy crap, really?

Nice

Yeah. Fox Engine is 360/PS3/PS4/PC/X-box

[Joe Molotov]

Thief 4 ain't looking too hot

Looks kinda like Dishonored, but bad.

[cool breeze]

Thief 4 ain't looking too hot

Looks kinda like Dishonored, but bad.

yeah, Dishonored isn't the ideal Thief experience, but it's super slick at what it does.

Thief 4 is like...slow down time, QTE to fight guards, weird tiny FOV with thick shadow borders around the screen.  And the guard AI just stumbles around confused when you're caught.

[D3RANG3D]

did you guys ever try mountain dew pitch black? shit was (Image removed from quote.)

version 2 is shit, the original version one is 

[MCD]

hehehe

[Shaka Khan]

As far as streaming services go, is there a major difference between Ustream and Twitch? I feel like the latter is more popular these days.

[fistfulofmetal]

As far as streaming services go, is there a major difference between Ustream and Twitch? I feel like the latter is more popular these days.

Twitch is more popular and geared towards games. Ustream is just everything.

Also Twitch is terrible.

[Rufus]

I dunno about functional differences, but Twitch won, basically.

[Cerveza mas fina]

I really expected MS to dromb some bombs.

This is a failure.

[thisismyusername]

As far as streaming services go, is there a major difference between Ustream and Twitch? I feel like the latter is more popular these days.

Twitch is more "gaming" focused than Ustream. But as far as stream quality itself goes? No difference. It's still "pipe"/bandwidth intensive no matter what streaming services you use.

[Tasty]

I dunno. Wii U gaining a new luster after that hour and a half blah fest. Sony's due for a screw-up so...

Next-gen Mario 

C'mon Ninty! Drop the price.

I'll change my title to something of Mr. Gundam's choosing if the Wii U deluxe doesn't drop to $300 tomorrow.

[Don Flamenco]

twitch has better emoticons.   and it's where a majority of game scenes stream--esports genres, speed runs, fgc, etc.

Ustream is much larger, I think, just not focused on games at all.  This Xbone deal is like Twitch's big break.

[maxy]

I like this 60 fps on console push.

COD,BF,Halo,Titan

For a few years unless they upgrade their graphics and effects then it's back to 30FPS surely?

I can't imagine devs knowing what "optimization" is on consoles.

It's a shame DR3 is exclusive. Outside of maybe Titanfall (which is going to PC?) all the others I'm excited for from that conference (MGS5, Dark Souls 2, Battlefield 4) are all on PS3/PS4/PC.

Also it took them this long to announce things the PS4 announced day-one of it's reveal? Streaming and Recording gameplay took them that long to hammer out?

And their "PS+" knock-off for gold is a bit of a joke, maybe it'll change next month from backlash. Who knows.

They can just drop the rez like COD.I think 60 fps will stay.

[Rufus]

I'll change my title to something of Mr. Gundam's choosing if the Wii U deluxe doesn't drop to $300 tomorrow.

Quoted for posterity.

[Huff]

Nothing MS showed really screamed, hey we are putting out a new console this year! Fucking buy it. Trying to follow in Nintendo's footsteps

[Shaka Khan]

I just hate how most analysts couldn't stop talking about a $400 price point, not to mention all the subsidize talk. I mean, if the PS4 hits that price everyone internet person will declare it a winner by default.

Even the sleeker 360 didn't drop in price, right?

[Tasty]

They still make Code Red?  Finally something to be excited over.

Best Dew.

[Tasty]

I'll change my title to something of Mr. Gundam's choosing if the Wii U deluxe doesn't drop to $300 tomorrow.

Quoted for posterity.

I'll keep it for a month.

[Eel O'Brian]

I just hate how most analysts couldn't stop talking about a $400 price point, not to mention all the subsidize talk. I mean, if the PS4 hits that price everyone internet person will declare it a winner by default.

Even the sleeker 360 didn't drop in price, right?

nope, still $200 for the 4GB, and $300 for the 250GB or 4GB + Kinect

[demi]

If they did not go the route of DRM, this would have been a really good showing.

[demi]

I'll change my title to something of Mr. Gundam's choosing if the Wii U deluxe doesn't drop to $300 tomorrow.

Quoted for posterity.

I'll keep it for a month.

I'll change your username to Mr. Gundam's choosing

[Madrun Badrun]

I just hate how most analysts couldn't stop talking about a $400 price point, not to mention all the subsidize talk. I mean, if the PS4 hits that price everyone internet person will declare it a winner by default.

Even the sleeker 360 didn't drop in price, right?

nope, still $200 for the 4GB, and $300 for the 250GB or 4GB + Kinect

A 149 or 99 xbox would have eaten up One sales for like two years instead of just this holiday. 

[Snuflupagulus]

I dunno. Wii U gaining a new luster after that hour and a half blah fest. Sony's due for a screw-up so...

Next-gen Mario 

C'mon Ninty! Drop the price.

I'll change my title to something of Mr. Gundam's choosing if the Wii U deluxe doesn't drop to $300 tomorrow.

With a strong yen, yeah, maybe right?

[Rufus]

nope, still $200 for the 4GB, and $300 for the 250GB or 4GB + Kinect

Ugh. What's the point?

[Flannel Boy]

I dunno. Wii U gaining a new luster after that hour and a half blah fest. Sony's due for a screw-up so...

Next-gen Mario 

C'mon Ninty! Drop the price.

I'll change my title to something of Mr. Gundam's choosing if the Wii U deluxe doesn't drop to $300 tomorrow.

With a strong yen, yeah, maybe right?

$249 or $300 with a game people actually want.

edit: Wait, the Wii U doesn't have such a game. 

[fistfulofmetal]

Forza looks hot, but not a system seller.

[nudemacusers]

MS shares only  down 1.2%

you can't trade used MS stocks 

[Tasty]

I'll change my title to something of Mr. Gundam's choosing if the Wii U deluxe doesn't drop to $300 tomorrow.

Quoted for posterity.

I'll keep it for a month.

I'll change your username to Mr. Gundam's choosing

I do not consent to that.

[Snuflupagulus]

edit: Wait, the Wii U doesn't have such a game. 

lol   :'(

[StealthFan]

Ice cold Pitch Black 2

[Joe Molotov]

I dunno. Wii U gaining a new luster after that hour and a half blah fest. Sony's due for a screw-up so...

Next-gen Mario 

C'mon Ninty! Drop the price.

I'll change my title to something of Mr. Gundam's choosing if the Wii U deluxe doesn't drop to $300 tomorrow.

With a strong yen, yeah, maybe right?

$249 or $300 with a game people actually want.

edit: Wait, the Wii U doesn't have such a game. 

[cool breeze]

Xbox Mini is the same price as the current Xbox 360, starting at $199 for 4gig

 

[Tasty]

$249 or $300 with a game people actually want.

edit: Wait, the Wii U doesn't have such a game. 

MH3U. 

[thisismyusername]

MH3U. 

He said a game people actually want, Andy.

[Tasty]

MH3U. 

He said a game people actually want, Andy.

If we're talking about """""people""""" then NSMBU probably fits the bill.

[Flannel Boy]

MH3U didn't even sell that well in Japan

The attach-rate for NSMBU is too high for Nintendo to offer it for free.

[Tasty]

MH3U didn't sell well here either. Fucking plebs.

[MCD]

so cboat was a lying sony shill

no worse drm

no ms advertising for exclusives

no mirror's edge 2

[Phoenix Dark]

Knack looks pretty shit on this Game Trailers show

[cool breeze]

Knack looks pretty shit on this Game Trailers show

it looks like a Lego game

[fistfulofmetal]

I just want to trust everything Cerny says.

[Purple Filth]

Seems Knack is voiced by that Black Lycan dude in Underworld?

[MCD]

Knack looks pretty shit on this Game Trailers show

it's a family game you pick up for $5 not the next lair or heavenly sword