Author Topic: Civ V Brave New World : Endless Cycles of Love and Self-Hate (Read 61523 times)

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #60 on:** July 10, 2013, 05:45:01 PM »

Also I learnt that great musicians are better used as works of art early on.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #61 on:** July 10, 2013, 05:53:18 PM »

Also I realized that you are really suppose to send food or production for setting up cities after your second one. Getting settlers is very hard compared to the previous versions so I'm getting off like a third city nearing turn 160-200

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #62 on:** July 11, 2013, 03:38:54 AM »

Playing as Venice on archipelago. Shit is super easy. Pupetting city states is stupid though. Might be able to do a culture win the fastest, though everyone hates me because I proposed a trade embargo on Egypt who I was at war with at the time.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #63 on:** July 11, 2013, 12:28:55 PM »

I'm the tied for top military with rome and got two of the science wonders which have been helping a lot.

headwalk · « **Reply #64 on:** July 11, 2013, 02:23:22 PM »

so has civ v finally arrived?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #65 on:** July 12, 2013, 12:42:11 AM »

So is this worth buying. The new expansion pack I mean. Or should I just wait for a sale.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #66 on:** July 12, 2013, 01:16:26 AM »

I don't regret it either. It is a much better game. Economics/war/culture/science are all closely linked, much more so than before which is really awesome. Also the end game is actually fun now. The ideology system makes it so that there is a good chance of a world war happening at the end of the game.

If you are coming from gods and kings then you might be able to wait if you don't have the money. If you are wanting to play civ v for the first time, I would just get it when the gold edition goes on sale.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #67 on:** July 12, 2013, 12:56:47 PM »

It's only 20$ right now.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #68 on:** July 15, 2013, 01:12:33 PM »

Back from vacation. Getting my grubby hands on this tonight!

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #69 on:** July 15, 2013, 05:20:10 PM »

Played an awesome game with pangea, huge, king, with Shoshone, did a military victory, though I could have bought out the city states about 10 turns early for a diplo win. The end game is so much better, navies are actually worth while now. Also Greece is fucking brutal now. Shoshone were pretty great on this map and I really liked there UA. I had like 15 Comanche riders in a group and they pretty much just swarmed anything in their path.

I'm also finding that, unlike G&K, I can pretty much ignore religion.

One thing I wish for though is for city states to have a better memory about allies and enemies. There is basically little reason to make friends with them until half way though the game, which is right when money stops being so tight.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #70 on:** July 15, 2013, 05:37:35 PM »

I just put them on auto explore after they outlive there usefulness. I still had one going by turn 400. But ya I didn't even start wars until I had cannons, though that was mostly because I had a huge area for my cities and I had to keep barbarians out of my trade routes.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #71 on:** July 16, 2013, 03:06:27 AM »

Quote from: Zero Hero on July 15, 2013, 01:12:33 PM

Back from vacation. Getting my grubby hands on this tonight!

Me too, very excited

Fragamemnon · « **Reply #72 on:** July 16, 2013, 10:23:50 AM »

Quote from: Eschaton on July 15, 2013, 05:24:57 PM

Im having issues with medieval era Shoshone. When I went warmonger they proved ineffectual. . Cant upgrade damn pathfinders. Theyre a good defensive unit but being in the scout tree makes them useless long term and I hate a useless unit..

Upgrading them to composite bows with ruins is actually generally a more worthwhile measure than anything except:

- getting an early culture ruin
- ensuring a population increase from 3->4 in capital or higher
- getting a faith burst when you have no pantheon

composite bows with fast terrain movement are amazing

edit: as the shoshone you should go balls to the wall early w/ a liberty start and then defend all the land you grabbed and backfill other spots. Pick fights w/ AIs using ranged units constantly and bait them into your territory for bonuses. These guys want to grab land and fight.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #73 on:** July 16, 2013, 04:10:55 PM »

I started a 22 player game as Portugal. I'm the second closest player to the Zulu. It hasn't been going well for the closest and I know I'm next.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #74 on:** July 16, 2013, 04:51:50 PM »

I accidentally chose a great musician instead of the artist that I had a slot for.

He was worthless unless there was a slot for a great musician. Couldn't use him for anything else. I thought that was stupid. It wouldn't ever let me do a concert either.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #75 on:** July 16, 2013, 06:03:34 PM »

You need to be in another civ's territory for a concert.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #76 on:** July 18, 2013, 10:07:49 AM »

ya but the civs are less aggressive early on, so it balances

archie4208 · « **Reply #77 on:** July 27, 2013, 01:23:53 PM »

Finally won my first BNW game on prince. Diplomatic victory with Poland. Borys would be proud.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #78 on:** July 28, 2013, 12:04:21 AM »

I can relate, I got beat on 6 wonders in a row in the last three turns in a game the other night. Ultimate rage quit

archie4208 · « **Reply #79 on:** July 28, 2013, 05:57:14 AM »

Great Library is the wonder I always get beaten to.

You'd think I would learn not to rush it, but I never do.

Himu · « **Reply #80 on:** July 28, 2013, 07:54:35 PM »

i need civ v bad

xmas sale here i come haha

Himu · « **Reply #81 on:** July 28, 2013, 08:45:46 PM »

lazy. didn't buy anything during sale.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #82 on:** July 29, 2013, 12:51:45 AM »

Make sure you get BNW.

Just finished a 16 player, king, diplo win (1 turn away from a science win). Game was intense. The zulu were going to beat me to a science win, so I sent an armada of carriers with nukes, nuked his capital a few times and stole some cities which I couldn't hang onto as he started nuking me back. So I was scared I was going to lose the science race so I rushed to globalization which got me the few extra votes I needed. Venice and Austria eat up many of the city states

That's another weekend gone.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #83 on:** July 29, 2013, 12:53:23 AM »

Quote from: archie4208 on July 28, 2013, 05:57:14 AM

Great Library is the wonder I always get beaten to.

You'd think I would learn not to rush it, but I never do.

Ya. If I'm playing with more civs than standard. I don't even bother.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #84 on:** July 29, 2013, 09:52:08 AM »

I'm around turn 400 and just found my first ideology. I chose order. Since then, I've noticed my neighbor bitch civ Alexander is getting attacked by barbarians. It's weird because I have barbs turned off in this instance. Other than that, I haven't seen or come across a single barb. Does it have anything to do with my ideology?

pilonv1 · « **Reply #85 on:** July 29, 2013, 10:02:46 AM »

Quote from: Zero Hero on July 29, 2013, 09:52:08 AM

I'm around turn 400 and just found my first ideology. I chose order. Since then, I've noticed my neighbor bitch civ Alexander is getting attacked by barbarians. It's weird because I have barbs turned off in this instance. Other than that, I haven't seen or come across a single barb. Does it have anything to do with my ideology?

Sounds like rebels

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #86 on:** July 29, 2013, 10:55:46 AM »

Quote from: Zero Hero on July 29, 2013, 09:52:08 AM

I'm around turn 400 and just found my first ideology. I chose order. Since then, I've noticed my neighbor bitch civ Alexander is getting attacked by barbarians. It's weird because I have barbs turned off in this instance. Other than that, I haven't seen or come across a single barb. Does it have anything to do with my ideology?

Probably rebels. Check if he has civil unrest in the culture menu.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #87 on:** July 29, 2013, 11:59:40 AM »

Thanks guys. I've never seen rebels before. If that's what it is, it couldn't have happened to a nicer person.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #88 on:** July 29, 2013, 12:04:16 PM »

Also rebellions are tied to ideology in that ideology clashes can cause unhappiness and rebels are made from unhappiness.

Rufus · « **Reply #89 on:** July 29, 2013, 12:36:29 PM »

Quote from: Ché Guevara

"Also rebellions are tied to ideology in that ideology clashes can cause unhappiness and rebels are made from unhappiness. "

archie4208 · « **Reply #90 on:** July 31, 2013, 03:14:11 PM »

Lost as Brazil.

Catherine didn't want to recognize my superior culture and Monty snuck in a space ship.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #91 on:** July 31, 2013, 11:52:05 PM »

Started my first emperor level game. Doing ok, until Sweden doubled my points in like 30 turns. He shit out like 8 wonders in no time. ass. Also he is like a whole era of tech above me.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #92 on:** August 01, 2013, 01:34:42 AM »

ya, I'm not going to win that game.

I thought I was doing so well too.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #93 on:** August 07, 2013, 11:49:34 PM »

Sick of my current game. I've expanded and have the most dominant culture. Everyone on my continent hates me, and denounces me regularly and I've been fighting wars for about 100 turns. When Siam declared war on me every single City State in the game declared war too. My only ally is on the other continent and Catherine keeps telling me how everyone is talking shit about me behind my back. And because I've spent so much time fighting off wars from each angle, everyone else now has the Manhattan project except me

archie4208 · « **Reply #94 on:** August 08, 2013, 09:14:50 AM »

I'm gonna make the jump to king this weekend.

What's the most OP civ/victory condition I can exploit to make my life as easy as possible?

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #95 on:** August 08, 2013, 10:43:21 AM »

Also China military win on a smaller pangea.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #96 on:** August 08, 2013, 11:20:37 AM »

Huns also early on. Also you mean wide with Greece.

archie4208 · « **Reply #97 on:** August 08, 2013, 01:15:39 PM »

Quote from: Eschaton on August 08, 2013, 10:02:10 AM

Babylon spaceship victory is definitely the easiest imho... build like 4-5 tall cities around good production areas, go tradition...

Just tried that. One turn away from going to space and Indonesia beat me to it.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #98 on:** August 08, 2013, 08:31:55 PM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on July 28, 2013, 07:54:35 PM

i need civ v bad

xmas sale here i come haha

http://www.gamefly.com/Download-Sid-Meier%27s-Civilization-V/150110/

$4.80 with the coupon GFDAUG20

It's the regular edition, but you can upgrade to Gold later for $20 (or less if you wait for a sale).

pilonv1 · « **Reply #99 on:** August 08, 2013, 10:19:46 PM »

Quote from: Eschaton on August 07, 2013, 11:57:11 PM

the worst games are the ones you're kinda losing

the best games are the ones you're sorta winning

Yep. Siam won diplomatic victory with 30something votes, with 4 the next highest

Started a new game as Mayans, on one continent with just The Netherlands and William decided to settle a city 6 tiles away from my capital so I razed 2 of his cities and he gave up Rotherdam (9 pop) before turn 130, leaving him just with Amsterdam and me with the possibility of a continent to myself and the city states who adore me and my religion. By score I'm ahead by a mile but I've only met 2 of 9 civs.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #100 on:** August 10, 2013, 08:02:04 AM »

Finally got my first win in BNW (Prince

), diplomatic since I had all City States at like 130/60 and was sitting on about 10k gold. Turns out I was one turn from a cultural victory too.

Will have a go with Venice on Warlord next I think.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #101 on:** August 16, 2013, 09:52:34 AM »

Sitting here at work after pulling an honest to god all-nighter, sun was up when I finally got the science victory.

I honestly can't even remember the last time I went at it this hard on a work/school night. I feel like day old dogshit

I probably only put in a couple of hours in Vanilla, so this was bascially my first game. Took my lumps and only really re-loaded an autosave once when Alexander (*spit*) was about to get the diplomatic victory. I realized about a turn before he was about to win that I could've been using my Spies to influence and maybe flip the city states. I went back about 10 turns and used everything I had to flip enough CS to keep him stop his win and buy me enough time to finish the ship.

archie4208 · « **Reply #102 on:** August 16, 2013, 01:27:04 PM »

I've lost 9 games in a row on King.

Everyone is so mean and aggressive. :'(

archie4208 · « **Reply #103 on:** August 17, 2013, 07:50:57 AM »

Finally won on King with Korea.

I got my own little secluded continent and pumped out science all game. I ended up with like 1300 SPT by the end.

It feels like a hallow victory, but hey, I finally won a game on King.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #104 on:** August 18, 2013, 06:51:24 PM »

Oh man, I'm playing an Archipelgo map with Elizabeth and I got the Great Lighthouse

I basically got my Ships of the Line out on the seas doing donuts

archie4208 · « **Reply #105 on:** August 20, 2013, 10:09:34 PM »

Got a 396 turn diplomatic win on king.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #106 on:** August 20, 2013, 11:22:31 PM »

Diplomatic victory is too easy I think with CS and money. Until you get to Diety/Immortal that is

Fragamemnon · « **Reply #107 on:** August 21, 2013, 01:18:46 AM »

Not really-diplo is still pretty easy there. I leave it enabled but don't win with it in my games.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #108 on:** August 21, 2013, 01:48:09 AM »

Well that's my assumption, since I'm still playing babby levels (King/Emporer)

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #109 on:** August 31, 2013, 12:06:13 PM »

Picked up brave new world. Seems cool. I haven't really experimented with a lot of things yet.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #110 on:** September 04, 2013, 02:59:32 PM »

BNW is $11.99 at newegg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832205069

benjipwns · « **Reply #111 on:** September 12, 2013, 02:01:44 AM »

Finally started playing this recently. Got it off Amazon when it was $15 but I had a $5 credit from pre-ordering Saints Row IV (which they gave me extra credit towards for pre-ordering The Third with them two years ago) so that was awesome.

Really liking all the additions, didn't play too much Gods and Kings so religion is still kinda new to me as well. Siam was spamming one city with Protestantism but I just Great Propheted it back to Taoism. But a few hundred turns back or so the Iroquois sent over like six missionaries and spammed Catholicism all over the damn place. So I kinda gave up trying to manage that. Is there a way to expel them from your territory without attacking them/war/etc.?

I should have read the "new to BNW" tool tips because I only just found out I can send a diplomat to help with my culture and I've been at 8/9 civs for like 300 turns because of those damn Iroquois again.

Thinking I might start my next game and try to play it the opposite of how I always play Civ. (Pro-peace, pro-science, not too expansionist, generally un-involved in world affairs or city-states, commerce/freedom/etc. policy tracks, culture victory focus.)

I always like the reactions from the other civs when you're the first one to build a nuclear weapon.

Fragamemnon · « **Reply #112 on:** September 13, 2013, 02:48:37 AM »

If you keep your borders closed missionaries are a bit less of a problem. Still annoying.

If you have open borders then be prepared for mass prophet and missionary spam.

archie4208 · « **Reply #113 on:** September 13, 2013, 06:27:24 AM »

Is there ever any reason to give the AI open borders? Especially when you can buy OB from them for like 100 gold.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #114 on:** September 13, 2013, 07:03:09 AM »

There's 25% bonus to culture if you have open borders.

Otherwise no.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #115 on:** September 13, 2013, 10:24:39 AM »

I never have missionary problems cause I'm the one pumping them out.

benjipwns · « **Reply #116 on:** September 14, 2013, 05:05:35 AM »

Really getting trade routes down now and liking a lot of the concepts. Russia was giving me some shit, denouncing me, etc. so I shifted all their trade routes to the Mayans the next time it came up and suddenly they wanted to be friends and stuff again. In a prior game the World Council decided the Mongols needed to be embargoed and they went in the toliet for a long while.

Messed around with this a little, mod that makes the One City Challenge apply for every Civ: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=135339418
It ran into some obvious problems just after the mid-game. Most likely because I picked a huge map.

In my current game the AI completely ignored building down the East side of this continent for some reason despite the Mayans and Dutch being along the West. There's coal and gems and crap all over the damn place so I'm somewhat spam building cities to try and make a wall along it. Especially to keep out Russia who's the only one who seems to be trying to expand and blocked off my way along the North I was expanding towards by placing random cities in horrible locations. (Plus I had only like two coal in my entire empire and these are all spots with 10 or so.) And I've got so much damn gold to waste.

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Playing as Poland

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I'm still a little unsure about the one unit per tile thing, maybe two would work better. But I'm only at around 200 hours with all versions of the game.

Will have to check out the scenarios after this game, I really liked some of the original/DLC ones.

Probably already been posted or seen by everyone since it's from Feb, but came across this article where Jon Shafer discussed some of the lessons he learned from the flaws of Civ V's design: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jonshafer/jon-shafers-at-the-gates/posts/404789

EDIT: Is there any way to NOT make a proposal to the World Council? Am I missing something obvious?

benjipwns · « **Reply #117 on:** September 23, 2013, 01:26:50 AM »

Playing Venice is both fun and aggravating. A bunch of later game resources all popped up just outside my borders.

Then the world council voted to embargo me and only other two nations disagreed.

Saw my first civ collapse into revolution/revolt/whatever though, England fell apart and fought a long battle over London for ages. Nottingham bolted to become part of Venice.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #118 on:** September 23, 2013, 02:50:50 AM »

I've been playing Venice on Diety and it's frustrating for that reason. There's usually a luxury or strategic resource 4 tiles away from your capital and the AI love to drop a city there even if it's in a bad spot. Seeing all that bad space being eaten up by lousy city placement is frustrating.

benjipwns · « **Reply #119 on:** September 23, 2013, 03:09:42 AM »

I didn't have that problem thankfully, I managed to get somewhat in the middle of a peninsula so at max borders I was almost all the way across it and nobody could get to my right by land and never bothered by sea. But then like two tiles to the right of my borders pops up coal and oil and aluminum and uranium to where each time one was coming up I just knew it was going to show up over there.

And there were no damn city states to buy with any of that stuff except one was near some coal. Even Nottingham barely had anything but pastures around it. I had like a 60 pop city with ten billion horses and truffles and two coal near the end of the game because of the embargo. I did have some oil though, I should have just started a world war by paying off people and packed all my tiles with troops to wade through.

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Author Topic: Civ V Brave New World : Endless Cycles of Love and Self-Hate (Read 61523 times)