So I've been living under a rock... the hell is Pacific Rim?

[Tasty]

When doing the mental calculation for whether a movie's "done well" or "done poorly" I usually don't factor in international ticket sales. They're usually a crutch for the movie to break even, but if it doesn't cut it in the states it seems like the executives consider it a failure and won't invest more into it. There are exceptions of course.

*Hollywood accounting means everything's a success, somehow, lol.

[Mandark]

Hollywood accounting means nothing's a success, which is why you get points off the gross, not the net.

[fistfulofmetal]

You can argue that even Del Toro himself shows you can barely break even and manage a sequel. Hellboy being case in point. Then again that was also a fairly low budget affair and only slightly increased the budget for the sequel.

That said, I don't think a sequel is completely out of he realm of possibility. The first movie does, ok overall. But the real success is that it makes people aware it exists. The movie percolated in the system for awhile. BD/DVD gets released, somewhat cult following arises, it's on VOD, Streaming, HBO, etc. Clamor for a sequel starts up.

You can see a scenario where they make another one, but it's not guaranteed in any stretch though.

[Dickie Dee]

As much as I love PR, I'm just glad it got made (you can't take it back motherfuckers!). I'd just as soon see del Toro do something different than PR2.

I suppose I'd be lying if the GDT fanboy in me wasn't rooting for a blockbuster, but even rationally it'll be nice if the BO ended up sufficient enough that they'll still give him money for the next film. A $200M At the Mountains of Madness was never going to happen, even if he had Nolan/WB-level clout with the studios.

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

the similarly hugely budgeted Golden Compass bombed the shit outta Murica and utterly killed it internationally, the sequels could have been made cheaper too as the tech they needed was already built, we never did get another one, did we?  That same story happens all the time.

Pacific Rim looks pretty good next to actual bombs like White House Down, The Lone Ranger, and R.I.P.D, but just because it didn't shit the bed entirely (it still don't look great, and best case scenario it looks okay) doesn't mean people are going to rush to make a sequel, or give Del Toro another mega-budget to play with.  Of course I think I'm just parroting Oscar here, but the man has called it pretty well.

[Steve Contra]

They also butchered The Golden Compass.  Leaving out the reason the book got so much press in the first place

[Himu]

They also butchered The Golden Compass.  Leaving out the reason the book got so much press in the first place

Why was that?

[Phoenix Dark]

I wonder how a Golden Compass adaption would do today. Seems like audiences would be more receptive and far less butthurt by alleged religious slights

[Steve Contra]

They also butchered The Golden Compass.  Leaving out the reason the book got so much press in the first place

Why was that?

Have you read the book?

[chronovore]

They also butchered The Golden Compass.  Leaving out the reason the book got so much press in the first place

Why was that?

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The implication is that religion, specifically Christian religion is a corrupt tool of oppression, and even the real beings which are the source of the myths are similarly corrupt and abusive. In the end, the children go on a mission to kill God.

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[Himu]

ahahaha holy shit

straight outta a jrpg

[chronovore]

The first book is must-read. Really enjoyable.

The later books are good, but do not feel as internally consistent as the first.

The ending is satisfying in a literary way, but left me a little emotionally disappointed.

[Mandark]

They also butchered The Golden Compass.  Leaving out the reason the book got so much press in the first place

Why was that?

There's an anti-religious message that gets heavier as the books go on.  Probably what he's talking about.

Or the talking, armored bear.  That guy is awesome and I mean that sincerely. [/Biden]



edit: gotta actually read the thread, smh

[Joe Molotov]

http://kotaku.com/if-you-liked-pacific-rim-this-is-the-video-game-for-yo-867394038

Kotaku 

[Great Rumbler]

[Rahxephon91]

http://kotaku.com/if-you-liked-pacific-rim-this-is-the-video-game-for-yo-867394038

Kotaku 

Yeah that article made me shake my head, but then again the author is I guess their "jrpg" guy.

"yeah if you like a robot kicking monster ass action movie, then you'll love a slow turn based wanabee philosophical anime game".

This is the game the article should be about.

[Himu]

jesus christ that kotaku article makes me hate that guy despite being a fellow suikoden fan.

[Dickie Dee]

http://kotaku.com/if-you-liked-pacific-rim-this-is-the-video-game-for-yo-867394038

Kotaku 

The extent to which Citan is one of my heroes cannot be understated. The opening hour or so of Xenogears is so powerful, so ripe with meaning, that I get all weepy just thinking about it. (The rest of the game is too. lol)   

[Rahxephon91]

I'm sure in a move not surprising anyone, I also like Xenogears. But comparing it to Pacific Rim is so dumb. As far as mech things go, these two are polar opposites.

[Steve Contra]

Any defense of Xenogears will not stand.  No sir, not on my watch.

Anyway, Pacific Rim was awesome.  Gleefully stupid in the best way.

[Himu]

reading jp sites this thing has ridiculous doujin and fanart even before it's out in theaters

could do well

[Steve Contra]

My wife mentioned this game right when we got out of the theater last night.  One more reason my wife>you

[demi]

http://kotaku.com/if-you-liked-pacific-rim-this-is-the-video-game-for-yo-867394038

Kotaku 

He's got that right. 2 hours where absolutely nothing happens. A cool mech fight scene, and that's it.

[Verdigris Murder]

What I don't get is how Ron Pelrman can look so downs, and yet still pull it off as a convincing screen presence.

[Verdigris Murder]

City of paedophiles and Hellboy 2 for example.

[cool breeze]

blu-ray needs the japanese dub

[Great Rumbler]

blu-ray needs the japanese dub

 

[Rahxephon91]

Man I really hope the movie does gangbusters in Japan.

Man the movie was just so enjoyable.

[chronovore]

The advertising has been ubiquitous for the past week, and it opens in just over a week.

Unfortunately, it opens here on the day I leave for the USA. Will it still be playing in California after the 9th?

[Steve Contra]

It will.

[Great Rumbler]

$344 million worldwide as of yesterday, with $74 million of that coming from the first 12 days in China [compared to $72 million in its first 12 days in the US].

[Mupepe]

reports are saying it bombed in Japan though with an opening weekend less than $5m

[fistfulofmetal]

Really no reason a sequel couldn't be greenlit at this point.

[Rahxephon91]

What the fuck Japan?

[Flannel Boy]

Wait, how many pages is this thread?

[Reb]

11, don't worry about it.

[Shaka Khan]

Let this be a lesson that discussing anything in catchall threads is the quickest way to catch AIDs.

[Oblivion]

Numbers from some feg on gaf:

Domestic: $98,401,000 25.6%
+ Foreign: $286,000,000 74.4%
= Worldwide: $384,401,000

Das....good, ja?

[Joe Molotov]

Numbers from some feg on gaf:

Domestic: $98,401,000 25.6%
+ Foreign: $286,000,000 74.4%
= Worldwide: $384,401,000

Das....good, ja?

With DVDs, they should be able to break even on it.

[Oblivion]

Don't forget blu-rays.

And Netflix.

[Phoenix Dark]

Hasn't it already made a profit? I know foreign BO returns aren't simply handed out to the studio, but the film cost 190m to make and will probably surpass 400m by the end. Marketing budget didn't seem high either.

[Mandark]

http://io9.com/5747305/how-much-money-does-a-movie-need-to-make-to-be-profitable

Pacific Rim has done okay, but not great.  Maybe enough for a sequel, and well enough that all the panic about del Toro having to direct episodes of the Kardashians to make ends meet was a bit overblown.

[Oblivion]

Well, since the film most likely will no longer be a bomb, I guess I can pirate it with a clear conscience now.

[Mupepe]

I did my part. Went to see Elysium and the conjuring and instead bought both tickets to pacific rim showings. So between my wife and I we have bought 8 tickets for pacific rim. I kinda felt bad for not giving Elysium money but after seeing it im okay with it going to pacific rim instead.

[Great Rumbler]

Hasn't it already made a profit? I know foreign BO returns aren't simply handed out to the studio, but the film cost 190m to make and will probably surpass 400m by the end. Marketing budget didn't seem high either.

Rule of thumb is 3x the production budget to break even.

[Yeti]

I did my part. Went to see Elysium and the conjuring and instead bought both tickets to pacific rim showings. So between my wife and I we have bought 8 tickets for pacific rim. I kinda felt bad for not giving Elysium money but after seeing it im okay with it going to pacific rim instead.

I'm confused, did you buy tickets for Pacific Rim and then go see different movies once you were in the theater? Or did you go to the theater with the intention of seeing different movies, but then decided to see Pacific Rim instead?

[Mupepe]

Yeah that was poorly worded haha  I bought tickets for pacific rim to give my money to it but went to see other movies once I got in the theater.

[Rahxephon91]

I think the theater got your money. Is'nt that how it works? The further away from the release, the movie theater gets more out of the ticket? I don't know.

[Mupepe]

I think so. But it does add up to the total take however insignificant it is haha.

[Rahxephon91]

Hey man Elysium needs you're money. Blomkamp needs to make his movie about cyborg immigrant workers.

[Mupepe]

The emotes window wont up on my phones browser but I want to post that jay z emote where he looks disgusted

[Diunx]

So Elysium was bad? I better cancel this HDcam rip then.

[Great Rumbler]

I think the theater got your money. Is'nt that how it works? The further away from the release, the movie theater gets more out of the ticket? I don't know.

That's correct, domestically, anyway.  By this point probably almost all the money from any ticket sales is going to the theatre.

According to io9, that was true up until about a decade ago, now every weekend is treated roughly equally:

But after a bunch of theater chains declared bankruptcy in the early 2000s, these frontloaded deals started to fall out of fashion, says Doug Stone with BoxOfficeAnalyst.com.

Nowadays, with many of the bigger Hollywood blockbusters, the theater chains just get a standard cut of the whole revenue, regardless of which weekend it comes in.