The Evil Within (dev. Tango Gameworks)

[bork]

When is it coming out? On a side note it's interesting Sony doesn't seem to have any Japan-centric games ready for the homeland launch.

Dynasty warriors 8xl
Ryu GA gotoku ishin

Add to that-

Doki-Doki Universe
Dream Club: Host Girls on Stage
Hohokum
Nikoli no Puzzle 4: Sudoku
Nobunaga no Yabou: Souzou
And I guess Strider Hiryu sort of counts?

[Tasty]

[Cerveza mas fina]

Fucking idiots on gaf complaining about textures when this shit oozes atmosphere

[Rahxephon91]

Well I mean it does look pretty bad graphically.

[ZephyrFate]

Fantastic atmosphere but they should have used the next-gen version for gameplay footage.

[Stoney Mason]

Don't give a shit about the graphics. Especially in a game like this.

It's all about that gameplay.

[DCharlieJP]

SMH @ Andy claiming to be a Mikami fan when he hasn't played the fuck out of Vanquish though

I think this is a little unfair given he named vanquish in his top 5 games of all time once - means it trumped a whole cart load of Nintendo stuff and that's without even playing it! Yeah! I know ! A top 5 game you love buy you never played? SOUNDS CRRRAZZZZYYY!

I am sure this has nothing to do with any announced 3rd party exclusives to any nintendo console that maybe remotely connected and just the quality of youtube videoes pimping the game.

[Shaka Khan]

Everyone is calling this a POS in the recent round of previews.

[Stoney Mason]

Everyone is calling this a POS in the recent round of previews.

That is a bit worrisome although some of the concerns like the lead character not talking wouldn't bother me at all. Yet I have seen this brought up in like 3 previews like its a very big deal or something. We will see I guess.

[The Sceneman]

bu bu bu if the main character can't talk how will this have the same feels as Bioshock Infinite and Walking Dead?

Story. It's all about story. I can tolerate games that don't have great gameplay, as long as the story and aesthetic reel me in. Sadly, the opposite isn't true. Obviously the perfect video game will have both, but I've always felt relatable, well-written characters can more than make up for a number of other deficits.

[The Sceneman]

FYI my post was a direct quote from an "IGN Editor" - proof that games journalists are straight nincompoop motherfuckers.

Can't handle a game with great gameplay, if the story isn't there to "reel him in"

[Stoney Mason]

bu bu bu if the main character can't talk how will this have the same feels as Bioshock Infinite and Walking Dead?

Story. It's all about story. I can tolerate games that don't have great gameplay, as long as the story and aesthetic reel me in. Sadly, the opposite isn't true. Obviously the perfect video game will have both, but I've always felt relatable, well-written characters can more than make up for a number of other deficits.

I'm not saying the game may not be fucked up but that quote is exactly why video game "journalism" is the biggest farce going. Wanna be fucking film critics.

[Rahxephon91]

Well I mean we live in a world where people complain about RE4's controls. Never minding the fact that the controls and player movement are the way the are specifically to create tension and urgency on the player. It's like players don't get that you're not supposed to be thoughtless in your shooting. RE4 is one of the few TPS where I really think on the fly during gameplay. I really think about the environments and how to use my tools. I use every gun in RE4 because every gun has a purpose. I can't really say that about pretty much any other shooter out there.

People seemed to have understood that then, but as RE4 gets older and older the controls complaint pops up. It's not supposed to be Gears or other TPS were survive is "just rest in cover". People did'nt seem to understand what was so awesome about Vanquish was that cover was not where you wanted to be. It was not run to cover and then take a few pot shots from there. Playing it that way would be boring, yet it seemed a lot did because Vanquish is not that well regarded among more average joe gamers. Yet, it's so amazing because it encourages you to control of the battlefield and have it not feel overwhelming or this "grit your teeth in the cover as you take one guy out by one". Vanquish may not have the most inventive guns, but again they all have a use in taking out enemies as quick as possible. In Gears I just use the Lancer. Vanquish was such a great game. Gameplay wise I expect nothing but the best with The Evil Within, because honestly there's been very few TPS that feel rewarding to play like Vanquish and RE4.

As for the story. It's not the draw here for me. It would be nice if it kept me engaged, but good scenarios for the hopefully good gameplay are of more importance. Vanquish was great, it's story was unremarkable. Yet the real negative is the boring level design and maybe not enough unique/special sequences. Hopefully, Evil Within is better in this regard.

I really hope this does ok, because I really would like Mikami's studio to keep going for a very long while.

[The Sceneman]

I remember reading a review that was complaining about Saints Row IV not having a cover system. A game where you have insane superpowers and guns that shoot black holes. And these guys want to hide behind shit. Wow, just wow

As Stoney said, games journalism is the biggest farce going.

[Tasty]

So the PAX "demo" was a guy behind a curtain playing two areas while 40 of us watched. "Spoilers" I guess but since nobody knows WTF this game is really about, that's kinda debatable.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

First area was a city all fucked up from like, the biggest earthquake ever. Buildings and shit kept falling around the main dude as he walked by. A cool part I felt was an area the looks like a normal alley but then all of a sudden the right wall pushes forward, then it pushes forward again so it's super tight to scale through. Instant claustrophobia. Otherwise it was kind eh with the dude shooting "zombies" () with some pretty meh third person shooter controls. Also, side note, the city looked super modern/futuristic but the main dude was wearing clothes from like the 1800s? And had a lantern and crossbow from like the 1800s?? Well, whatever. Demo ended when the dude came up to some water part and got chomped on some unseen fishy that is probably the first boss from RE4.

Second area was MUCH better I felt. Basically some kind of industrial complex with a Pyramid Head knockoff with a square safe for a head. Safe Head could resurrect himself from any safe lying on the ground in the area, and the effect when he does so is pretty chilling. You see the screen crackle red for a bit, then it goes silent and wait, is that him standing over there? OHSHIT IT FUCKING IS! RUN MOTHAFUCKA! Most of the area was the main dude sealing off rooms with comically-sized round vault doors and stopping some poison mist from spraying out of pipes.

There was absolutely no clue given as to:

- Who this guy was
- Where he was in these two areas
- What he was doing
- Why he was doing it

So most of those in the audience left pretty damn confused. I loved it though (even if I was also just as confused.) Probably not on RE4's level but it should be a pretty damn scary horror game, which the world needs more of these days.

[close]

I do feel like the western media isn't going to give this a fair shake. The horror IS kind of all over the place (in Mikami I trust (to ramp up effectively), etc.), and the graphics are, well... kinda shitty. So I see a lot of 7-8/10's. But the game will probably be great if you're looking for chilling atmosphere and horror gameplay done right.

[Tasty]

SMH @ Andy claiming to be a Mikami fan when he hasn't played the fuck out of Vanquish though

I think this is a little unfair given he named vanquish in his top 5 games of all time once - means it trumped a whole cart load of Nintendo stuff and that's without even playing it! Yeah! I know ! A top 5 game you love buy you never played? SOUNDS CRRRAZZZZYYY!

I am sure this has nothing to do with any announced 3rd party exclusives to any nintendo console that maybe remotely connected and just the quality of youtube videoes pimping the game.

I literally can't parse this post. What are you saying?

[Great Rumbler]

So the PAX "demo" was a guy behind a curtain playing two areas while 40 of us watched. "Spoilers" I guess but since nobody knows WTF this game is really about, that's kinda debatable.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

First area was a city all fucked up from like, the biggest earthquake ever. Buildings and shit kept falling around the main dude as he walked by. A cool part I felt was an area the looks like a normal alley but then all of a sudden the right wall pushes forward, then it pushes forward again so it's super tight to scale through. Instant claustrophobia. Otherwise it was kind eh with the dude shooting "zombies" () with some pretty meh third person shooter controls. Also, side note, the city looked super modern/futuristic but the main dude was wearing clothes from like the 1800s? And had a lantern and crossbow from like the 1800s?? Well, whatever. Demo ended when the dude came up to some water part and got chomped on some unseen fishy that is probably the first boss from RE4.

Second area was MUCH better I felt. Basically some kind of industrial complex with a Pyramid Head knockoff with a square safe for a head. Safe Head could resurrect himself from any safe lying on the ground in the area, and the effect when he does so is pretty chilling. You see the screen crackle red for a bit, then it goes silent and wait, is that him standing over there? OHSHIT IT FUCKING IS! RUN MOTHAFUCKA! Most of the area was the main dude sealing off rooms with comically-sized round vault doors and stopping some poison mist from spraying out of pipes.

There was absolutely no clue given as to:

- Who this guy was
- Where he was in these two areas
- What he was doing
- Why he was doing it

So most of those in the audience left pretty damn confused. I loved it though (even if I was also just as confused.) Probably not on RE4's level but it should be a pretty damn scary horror game, which the world needs more of these days.

[close]

I do feel like the western media isn't going to give this a fair shake. The horror IS kind of all over the place (in Mikami I trust (to ramp up effectively), etc.), and the graphics are, well... kinda shitty. So I see a lot of 7-8/10's. But the game will probably be great if you're looking for chilling atmosphere and horror gameplay done right.

The two areas I saw demoed last year at Quakecon were

spoiler (click to show/hide)

The hospital/asylum  that serves as the first location in the game. The main character arrives with another detective to find the police who arrived earlier are all missing or dead. They're soon attacked by some weird guy that can teleport or something, and the main guy wakes up later suspended from the ceiling. He has to get himself down and then avoided by chainsawed by this huge, crazy guy.

The next area was a village in the middle of a forest, which reminded me a lot of the opening area in RE4. The main guy fights off a horde of crazed villagers with various weapons and traps, and then get attacked by some weird monster that climbs up out of a giant pool of blood.

[close]

So, yeah, it's kind of hard to tell how it all ties together, but I'm looking forward to seeing how they do it.

[demi]

I'm hype for this. Cant wait to stream for yall. :flex

[Tasty]

So the PAX "demo" was a guy behind a curtain playing two areas while 40 of us watched. "Spoilers" I guess but since nobody knows WTF this game is really about, that's kinda debatable.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

First area was a city all fucked up from like, the biggest earthquake ever. Buildings and shit kept falling around the main dude as he walked by. A cool part I felt was an area the looks like a normal alley but then all of a sudden the right wall pushes forward, then it pushes forward again so it's super tight to scale through. Instant claustrophobia. Otherwise it was kind eh with the dude shooting "zombies" () with some pretty meh third person shooter controls. Also, side note, the city looked super modern/futuristic but the main dude was wearing clothes from like the 1800s? And had a lantern and crossbow from like the 1800s?? Well, whatever. Demo ended when the dude came up to some water part and got chomped on some unseen fishy that is probably the first boss from RE4.

Second area was MUCH better I felt. Basically some kind of industrial complex with a Pyramid Head knockoff with a square safe for a head. Safe Head could resurrect himself from any safe lying on the ground in the area, and the effect when he does so is pretty chilling. You see the screen crackle red for a bit, then it goes silent and wait, is that him standing over there? OHSHIT IT FUCKING IS! RUN MOTHAFUCKA! Most of the area was the main dude sealing off rooms with comically-sized round vault doors and stopping some poison mist from spraying out of pipes.

There was absolutely no clue given as to:

- Who this guy was
- Where he was in these two areas
- What he was doing
- Why he was doing it

So most of those in the audience left pretty damn confused. I loved it though (even if I was also just as confused.) Probably not on RE4's level but it should be a pretty damn scary horror game, which the world needs more of these days.

[close]

I do feel like the western media isn't going to give this a fair shake. The horror IS kind of all over the place (in Mikami I trust (to ramp up effectively), etc.), and the graphics are, well... kinda shitty. So I see a lot of 7-8/10's. But the game will probably be great if you're looking for chilling atmosphere and horror gameplay done right.

The two areas I saw demoed last year at Quakecon were

spoiler (click to show/hide)

The hospital/asylum  that serves as the first location in the game. The main character arrives with another detective to find the police who arrived earlier are all missing or dead. They're soon attacked by some weird guy that can teleport or something, and the main guy wakes up later suspended from the ceiling. He has to get himself down and then avoided by chainsawed by this huge, crazy guy.

The next area was a village in the middle of a forest, which reminded me a lot of the opening area in RE4. The main guy fights off a horde of crazed villagers with various weapons and traps, and then get attacked by some weird monster that climbs up out of a giant pool of blood.

[close]

So, yeah, it's kind of hard to tell how it all ties together, but I'm looking forward to seeing how they do it.

I'm really glad from the previews and trailers it seems like this game has a LOT of content. Really glad.

[Rahxephon91]

I like the shooting gameplay in Shadows of the Damned more than Gears or whatever else is a cover shooter. Game journalism hated the former, so I don't care if they hate this one.

Shadow was a pretty good arcadey RE4 like game. In the end, I just think I like over the shoulder games with no cover systems.

[Sho Nuff]

At this point I'll take what I can get. This looks like a COOL VIDEO GAME

[Joe Molotov]

At this point I'll take what I can get. This looks like a COOL VIDEO GAME

But is it a better story than Shakespeare? Can it win an Oscar? Will it make you cry??

[ZephyrFate]

[The Sceneman]

yeahhhh, the Onion has kinda lost it, the video was too obviously a pisstake. Compare it to their older stuff:

[ZephyrFate]

No, the Onion is still fucking hilarious, but they do make duds every now and again these days.

[Joe Molotov]

This shit's gonna be cray.

[Cerveza mas fina]

So who is picking this up?

[Mr. Gundam]

So who is picking this up?

Probably after Black Friday. Way too many games already on the back log.

[Human Snorenado]

Getting it on pc

[Mr. Gundam]

I am, can't say I've ever been disappointed in a Mikami game.

I haven't. Shadows of the Damned was great.

But like I said, I've got too many games i need to play through, so dropping full price on day one doesn't make sense for me.

[Human Snorenado]

I am, can't say I've ever been disappointed in a Mikami game.

I haven't. Shadows of the Damned was great.

But like I said, I've got too many games i need to play through, so dropping full price on day one doesn't make sense for me.

This is normally me, especially for games that don't offer hundreds of hours of gameplay, but I really want to put my new pc through it's paces. So, looking like I'll get this AND Borderlands Pre-Sequel on release.

[cool breeze]

I plan to get it on PC but holding off to hear how the port is.  the trifecta of Japanese PC game, Bethesda published, and id tech 5 

[Cerveza mas fina]

Ill prob get it too, think my last Mikami game was RE4

Nothing else good this month either on PS4, I can just finish it and sell it on and get COD

[Rahxephon91]

Getting it on PS4 of course.

[Great Rumbler]

Out of all the games coming out within this one month stretch, The Evil Within was the one I ultimately decided to buy [for $45 at GMG].

[toku]

Really want this but I know it'll take me half a year to get through it. I fucking love horror films and games but the latter are hell on my nerves. They absolutely drain me. Big part of it is because as far as games go, atmosphere/presentation are more than half the fight for me. So you nail those (which horror stuff tend to go for first) then I'm sold.

[toku]

I really, really want this to be successful but I don't think that will happen

Oh hell no. At least we get it though, and already seems halfway to mythic cult status on gaf.

[Joe Molotov]

I hope we get to see another Destiny-like meltdown on GAF.

I just don't understand why people get excited over Bethesda. With Bungie it was understandable, because Halo. But Bethesda? They've always been shit-tier. I wouldn't put much trust in Mikami either, because that kisama is responsible for a next-gen game that is running at 30 frames per second. Think about that shit.

[Rahxephon91]

I don't think anyone is getting excited over Bethesda here. When it comes to thier just published titles, it's not like there's some brand style that runs through them. Thier simply games they published and maybe funded. No one is excited for Evil Within because of Skyrim. So I don't understand that point.

About the only thing exciting here about them is Bethesda's willingness to publish and fund moderately budgeted new ips. Can't see funding things like Evil Within or Dishonnerd. So that's cool.

People are excited because of Mikami. If you can understand Bungie because of Halo, why can't you understand Mikami because of Vanquish and RE4? What am I supposed to think about the framerate though? Not like 30fps hurt RE4, Vanquish, or his other games. Sure maybe it is a sign of Tango's problems with idtech 5, but it dosen't mean it's going to make the game any less good.

[Human Snorenado]

Dios Mio man, Ruzbeh you really want me to send demi leper money for you, don't you?

[Great Rumbler]

People are excited because Mikami is finally making the followup to Resident Evil 4 that everyone actually wanted.

[Rahxephon91]

[Great Rumbler]

This doesn't strike me as a (spiritual) sequel to RE4 at all, but we'll see.

It's basically a spiritual successor to Resident Evil 4 by way of Silent Hill.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Really want this but I know it'll take me half a year to get through it. I fucking love horror films and games but the latter are hell on my nerves. They absolutely drain me. Big part of it is because as far as games go, atmosphere/presentation are more than half the fight for me. So you nail those (which horror stuff tend to go for first) then I'm sold.

Haha in the same, will play this an hour at a time prob.

[Tasty]

I hope we get to see another Destiny-like meltdown on GAF.

I just don't understand why people get excited over Bethesda. With Bungie it was understandable, because Halo. But Bethesda? They've always been shit-tier. I wouldn't put much trust in Mikami either, because that kisama is responsible for a next-gen game that is running at 30 frames per second. Think about that shit.

Bethesda is merely the publisher. Mikami's Tango is the developer.

[iconoclast]

I was always going to buy this since Mikami is probably the best game director there is nowadays, but all of the new videos and interviews over the last few weeks actually made me start looking forward to it. I'd still rather have a Resident Evil 1 style save system instead of RE4's mix of saves and checkpoints, though. Death doesn't have much meaning when you only lose two minutes of progress. Maybe Akumu mode will be different.

[Tasty]

I think I heard one of the difficulties hides the targeting reticule.

[demi]

This is actually leaked, I saw it on a forum. Where are the Magus imprssions?

[Great Rumbler]

Got my code from GMG, now it's time download 30GB of survival-horror!

[Human Snorenado]

I will preload it when I leave to go out later. Meantime it's time for MOAR DIABLO

[Himu]

RE4 was a long time ago.

And besides, RE4 wasn't perfect. Even when I played it at the time, I was thinking to myself what's up with all these unnecessary cutscenes.

I'm guessing that Mikami yaro went overboard with the cutscenes again, probably even worse. Even Nintendo wasn't immune to this backwards ass industry trend.

Re4 is the best game of all time shut the fuck up

[Human Snorenado]

Ruzbeh is Literallly The Worst (tm)

[Himu]

This doesn't strike me as a (spiritual) sequel to RE4 at all, but we'll see.

When the game was revealed he LITERALLY said that he hasn't liked how the genre has progressed since RE4 and is going to correct that. It IS a spritiual successor with its own identity.

As for RE4. Yes. It is the best game ever.

Insane pacing.
AAA level boss fights. Every single one.
A GOAT level hard mode.
Replay value up the wazoo. I have bought RE4 for every system it's available for  except Steam (will get at sale) and ps2 and have played it AT LEAST four times per platform. I have beaten RE4 maybe 20+ times and I am NOT bragging.
Fantastic set pieces and scenarios.
Hilarious dialogue.
Jam packed with post-game content.
MERCENARIES.

[Human Snorenado]

Ruzbeh, as someone who has dealt with people on the spectrum before, let me try to explain- you don't have a typical viewpoint on life. That's ok as long as you start acknowledging it and quit pretending like anyone has to take your shitty, flawed opinions on anything into account.

[Human Snorenado]

Shit, I didn't even have to send demi any money y'all

[Human Snorenado]

Ok, then please try to comprehend the larger point of my post:

you have a condition that simultaneously makes you experience reality different than the majority of people while robbing you of the self-awareness necessary to understand that. You should preface every sentence you type with, "in my admittedly differing opinion" unless your goal is to draw grief upon yourself.

Fortunately, I know you lack the nuance to not take this post personally, so I look forward to your impending continued freak out.

[Positive Touch]

as someone who most likely has mild autism, I can say that I don't think it has anything to do with ruzbehs criminally shitty opinions and general shittiness at literally everything #notallautists

[Human Snorenado]

as someone who most likely has mild autism, I can say that I don't think it has anything to do with ruzbehs criminally shitty opinions and general shittiness at literally everything #notallautists

Hey man, I'm with you. You don't play the same game for like 2,000 hours if you're not SOMEWHERE on the spectrum I don't think. Self-awareness is a handy thing, and for me it didn't show up until later in life, so maybe there's hope for Ruzbeh yet.

[Positive Touch]

nope I'm pretty sure he'll suck forever

[Tasty]

I dunno about best, but RE4 is certainly a perfect game as far as I'm concerned.