Author Topic: Walking Dead Season 4 thread of SMH (Read 13896 times)

Eschaton · « **on:** October 07, 2013, 11:43:40 AM »

Hyped

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1 on:** October 07, 2013, 01:45:00 PM »

Last season had one of the worst season finales I've seen, even worse than the last Game of Thrones finale. Governor went out like a bitch, which trivialized him; even when he comes back I'll be like "meh." Where does this go now? Still getting attacked at the prison, people dying....meh.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #2 on:** October 07, 2013, 01:46:03 PM »

The arc in season 2 where they're trying to find the little girl was the best thing in the show.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #3 on:** October 07, 2013, 01:51:05 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on October 07, 2013, 01:46:03 PM

The arc in season 2 where they're trying to find the little girl was the best thing in the show.

meni stronk · « **Reply #4 on:** October 07, 2013, 01:53:33 PM »

I'll continue to watch just because there's not a whole lot else on right now. it's definitely less palatable week to week. I thought S3 started strong and ended up about as bad as S2, but S3 was the first season I watched live. my expectations are pretty low at this point. forgot they have a new showrunner coming in though. maybe there is hope.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #5 on:** October 07, 2013, 01:54:53 PM »

I liked that they told a singular story that was relevant to the group and didn't try to cram it into 1 or 2 episodes.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #6 on:** October 07, 2013, 02:27:50 PM »

I'm still mad that my nicca Cutty didn't become Rick's right hand man. I thought they were going to be best buds :to

maybe S4 will change it.

Andrea

what a horrible character.

Diunx · « **Reply #7 on:** October 07, 2013, 02:29:02 PM »

Watched season 1 and the first episode of season 2, never bothered to watch the rest, terrible fucking show!

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #8 on:** October 07, 2013, 02:46:20 PM »

Quote from: Eschaton on October 07, 2013, 01:57:08 PM

Spend weeks searching for a lost 8 year old girl during the zombie apocalypse, brehs.

well the point is trying to retain their humanity and not giving up on someone just because it's inconvenient. it was a long-term storyline that had an emotionally satisfying payoff. shrug, they haven't had such a cohesive arc in the show since.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #9 on:** October 07, 2013, 02:51:32 PM »

Best part of S3 was T-Dawg dying and nobody giving a shit

I knew he was fucked when he started talking big. He was telling Rick how things were gonna go, planning shit out, etc...at that point I knew he was about to die. They spent like 5 minutes mourning Old Battered Wife Chick, meanwhile the guy who saved her damn life got no love

hopefully Michone is next.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10 on:** October 07, 2013, 03:04:09 PM »

console gamers sure love "protecting the defenseless little girl" tropes

I thought that season dragged like hell. It was obvious zombies were in the barn, at least to me, and I assumed Sophia must be in there.

but more importantly, FUCK that season for killing my nicca Dale. Hershel is aite but I need Dale back in my life as the "old white guy kicking knowledge."

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #11 on:** October 07, 2013, 03:28:18 PM »

they took every halfway interesting character in the comic and made them even more one-dimensional

that is quite a feat

Tasty · « **Reply #12 on:** October 07, 2013, 03:32:25 PM »

It's staggering how much better the comic is and how much the show managed to mess up.

Comics Andrea and Michonne

TV Andrea and Michonne

Tasty · « **Reply #13 on:** October 07, 2013, 03:59:42 PM »

Quote from: Eschaton on October 07, 2013, 03:35:55 PM

I would read the comics but the visual style of it is kinda to me, not enough detail and I hate how the characters are drawn.

GFX whore.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #14 on:** October 07, 2013, 07:04:28 PM »

all the edging with trying to kill the governor was terrible terrible shit, but when the season ended with the same damn cliffhanger theyd pulled over and over i fucking lost it. how can you even write an entire show with the entire cast consisting of mealy waffling wussies fuck i do not get it

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #15 on:** October 07, 2013, 08:27:18 PM »

christ, the video game has better writing than the show

Tasty · « **Reply #16 on:** October 07, 2013, 08:30:37 PM »

I don't think I've ever actually not read a comic because of the art... I didn't know there were people that were so shallow, lol. But then again there are people who refuse to watch black and white movies so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

I guess I can't throw stones though, I didn't watch HxH until two weeks ago because of the bad character designs.

Tasty · « **Reply #17 on:** October 07, 2013, 08:33:32 PM »

I mean if the story's good who cares?

I don't read xkcd for the art, either.

Tasty · « **Reply #18 on:** October 07, 2013, 08:39:41 PM »

Whatever Mr. Shallow.

Also the art isn't even bad. I don't even know how anyone could say it's "bad." It's readable, and even gets quite good around the time of the prison with detailed environments. You're just making excuses, mang.

Tasty · « **Reply #19 on:** October 07, 2013, 08:46:52 PM »

Yeah, I just don't understand. Sorry.

Mandark · « **Reply #20 on:** October 08, 2013, 01:25:20 AM »

Quote from: Tasty Meat on October 07, 2013, 08:46:52 PM

Yeah, I just don't understand. Sorry.

How often do people say they don't understand someone else's perspective, when what they really mean is they have so much contempt for that perspective that they need to treat it as literally unbelievable?

Anyway, comics are a visual medium. Ergo, the visual parts matter. Otherwise they'd be books.

This is why comic book artist exists as a profession, why artists train and hone their craft, and why the choice of which penciller and inker to collaborate with is so deeply important to the writers. If you want to treat the art in comic books (which are A SERIES OF PICTURES WITH WORDS ON THEM) as incidental, that's fine for you. But criticizing other people as "shallow" for caring about the thing that makes a comic book a comic book? C'mon.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #21 on:** October 08, 2013, 01:09:37 PM »

Did Andrex just say he didn't care about visual aesthetics in a visual medium

Tasty · « **Reply #22 on:** October 08, 2013, 01:10:20 PM »

Steve Contra · « **Reply #23 on:** October 08, 2013, 01:18:33 PM »

Also does anyone actually like Walking Dead? Everyone I know who watches it just complains bitterly about it but they can't stop watching it.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #24 on:** October 08, 2013, 01:28:51 PM »

The only episode of TWD i remember from last season is Clear.

Diunx · « **Reply #25 on:** October 08, 2013, 01:31:39 PM »

I can't read comics with awful art, I remember I stopped reading X-factor once because the artist had a style I like to call, "vomiting and ejaculating colors all over the sheet".

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #26 on:** October 08, 2013, 01:50:17 PM »

S3 had more than a few good episodes but I agree Andrea sucked the life out of so much shit. I really liked the episode with the black buy from the pilot.

I've heard the Governor is a lot more maniacal in the comics, and Rick's group took some heavy losses. Anyone know if he'll be in S4? He went out like such a bitch at the end of S3, it's hard to see him being much of a threat now.

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #27 on:** October 08, 2013, 03:01:57 PM »

Damn Eschaton, me and you are pretty much on the same page about comic visual thing.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #28 on:** October 08, 2013, 05:00:46 PM »

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #29 on:** October 08, 2013, 10:38:59 PM »

I agree D'Angelo From The Wire will be doing shady shit tho. I just know he gonna be creeping on Hershel's daughters.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #30 on:** October 10, 2013, 11:30:52 PM »

Wasn't the group of new people already trained in that shit, in the Governor's place? They should be the most competent group of villagers ever.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #31 on:** October 10, 2013, 11:50:20 PM »

I could have swore there was an episode where even the kids were being taught to shoot weapons, and Andrea helped teach.

TEEEPO · « **Reply #32 on:** October 11, 2013, 01:43:49 AM »

i'd enjoy this show more if they showed tits every ~~other~~ episode

helios · « **Reply #33 on:** October 11, 2013, 03:53:07 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on October 10, 2013, 11:50:20 PM

I could have swore there was an episode where even the kids were being taught to shoot weapons, and Andrea helped teach.

She kept on pointing the the gun at her head.

Yulwei · « **Reply #34 on:** October 11, 2013, 04:47:45 PM »

Quote from: The Business on October 07, 2013, 01:00:45 PM

Season 3 was so bad I never watched it again after the break.

Season 3 was my first experience with this show and I got to ep 6 or 7 before I couldn't take it anymore. That whole plotline of the main cast vs the dystopian town was the most boring shit ever. I enjoyed watching the main group fucking around in that prison a lot more than all the other shit.

Verdigris Murder · « **Reply #35 on:** October 11, 2013, 05:44:34 PM »

Look. The exec. producers have an awesome, endless stream of hot starlets, hoping to become zombies. And willing to let you have unprotected sex. Oral/anal/vaginal, whatever you want.

Hitler was basically just anti-Hollywood. Apart from fellow bong-hitting Jew hator Walt Disney.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #36 on:** October 13, 2013, 10:11:44 PM »

First episode was decent enough. Didn't like the Rick storyline so much, kinda played out predictably. The writing still has some awkward dialogue, but there was definitely some improvement.

Tasty · « **Reply #37 on:** October 13, 2013, 10:44:07 PM »

Hm, well that definitely wasn't in the comics.

chronovore · « **Reply #38 on:** October 14, 2013, 08:16:24 AM »

I've given up on the show, and am re-reading the comics, starting with issue 1. It's my second re-read, and I'll be going up to the latest trade paperback.

I couldn't get over how freely and constantly the group was expending ammo.

I also had a hard time with Lori, but rereading the comic and she's just horrible there as well. She's bossy without understanding what she's demanding, and resentful and unsupportive. Hey, girl, you married an authority figure; why are you always trying to undermine him?

Tasty · « **Reply #39 on:** October 14, 2013, 10:26:24 AM »

Lori gets better around the time she gets knocked up. And then after, well... she's out of the picture, lol.

The ammo thing bites them in the ass later on against Negan/Saviors and they get a lot smarter about it.

Tasty · « **Reply #40 on:** October 14, 2013, 10:51:06 AM »

Comics are so different, doesn't matter.

Also, Lori already died on the show.

CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #41 on:** October 14, 2013, 12:40:01 PM »

Yeah but some people haven't and might still read them ya big silly!

Last night my wife and I had on the dvr this and the kardashians. The kardashians had more compelling plot lines

Tasty · « **Reply #42 on:** October 14, 2013, 12:46:29 PM »

Quote from: Spencer on October 14, 2013, 12:40:01 PM

Yeah but some people haven't and might still read them ya big silly!

Last night my wife and I had on the dvr this and the kardashians. The kardashians had more compelling plot lines

Also more convincing undead effects.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #43 on:** October 14, 2013, 02:50:40 PM »

Impressions on my twitter feed were quite negative but I thought the episode was good. Some legit tension too, not just with the walkers falling through the roof but with that lady leading Rick to god knows where.

My girl Beth leveling up her will power on some X-COM shit

Hershel: Hey Rick, these veggies won't grow in the shade. But if we cut off the sprouts and plant them, maybe that will work *plants sprout in the shade*

my brother thinks the antigen is being spread through air but it seemed obvious it was the water. His argument was that if it's water, everyone would be dead whereas if it's like TB it wouldn't necessarily kill everyone through the air. I don't think ALL the water is dirty, but I wonder about the cleanliness of the group. The first shot was Rick cleaning his face in some water; if other people have been doing that after killing walkers, maybe that's how it's spreading. Sort of like drinking water in a war zone, from a river with bodies in it.

chronovore · « **Reply #44 on:** October 15, 2013, 04:11:41 AM »

Who cares why zombies work? Zombie fiction is rarely about zombies, it's finding out about human nature when the undead dookie hits the fan.

Monster Island was a great little novel about zombies, and even had a neat little twist on it, but then the author got really weird in the two sequels about following up on why his zombies work this way, and some historical metafiction to support it, and then really strained his ass trying to keep the characters interacting with each other until the end... it all felt forced. Druids? Mummies? Really?

In TWD comics, there has been just one basic nod to what I assume you're all seeing in the show:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

People die who haven't been bitten, and they turn anyway? It happens really early on in the comics, relates to something with Shane, actually, and then they just move on.

[close]

BECAUSE WHO CARES HOW ZOMBIES WORK? They're all screwed, it's just a matter of time, for all of them.

Tasty · « **Reply #45 on:** October 15, 2013, 04:33:12 AM »

The Shane thing was saying they're all infected and will turn however they die anyways, same as the show (eventually) got around to saying (s2 finale.) What happened last night, with the guy being sick enough to die and then come back, is something new and not in the comics (as far as I can remember.)

chronovore · « **Reply #46 on:** October 15, 2013, 11:15:24 AM »

Quote from: Tasty Meat on October 15, 2013, 04:33:12 AM

The Shane thing was saying they're all infected and will turn however they die anyways, same as the show (eventually) got around to saying (s2 finale.) What happened last night, with the guy being sick enough to die and then come back, is something new and not in the comics (as far as I can remember.)

Same thing, isn't it?

Tasty · « **Reply #47 on:** October 15, 2013, 11:42:26 AM »

Yeah. Before it didn't matter you had the virus until you died by other causes. Now, the virus itself can actually kill people.

chronovore · « **Reply #48 on:** October 15, 2013, 12:16:13 PM »

Ah, he wasn't just sick with pneumonia or cancer or something, it's actually the zombie sickness, and no-one knows how he contracted it. Got it.

Yeah, that hasn't happened in the 16 volumes I've read so far.

Tasty · « **Reply #49 on:** October 15, 2013, 12:38:30 PM »

At least, that seems to be what the cliffhanger is implying. They might be deliberately pulling our leg, and maybe he did have pneumonia or something.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #50 on:** October 15, 2013, 12:38:44 PM »

Quote from: Tasty Meat on October 15, 2013, 11:42:26 AM

Yeah. Before it didn't matter you had the virus until you died by other causes. Now, the virus itself can actually kill people.

well, we don't know if it's related to the zombie virus yet, kirkman said in some interview that it was a spanish flu type situation

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #51 on:** October 15, 2013, 01:35:11 PM »

Basically if a person drank zombie contaminated water, it's possible they could die correct? Like dying of a flu or virus. Not sure if it's a "Zombie Virus," it's probably just that zombies are fucking filthy and thus contamination can overwhelm a human immune system.

Himu · « **Reply #52 on:** October 15, 2013, 01:38:47 PM »

Um

so is this show good yet? reading the thread, I'm going with no.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #53 on:** October 15, 2013, 01:41:53 PM »

No, it's still trash, but there's hope it can be entertaining trash this season

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #54 on:** October 20, 2013, 10:32:29 PM »

"We're supposed to keep our distance from each other, it might not be safe"

*moves three feet away*

"Pigs might be infected, gotta kill 'em"

*lets sick pig blood spray into eyes and mouth*

meni stronk · « **Reply #55 on:** October 21, 2013, 12:43:06 PM »

enjoying it so far but it mostly seems like the same old song and dance. the dialogue and character moments are still cringe-worthy as ever ("Used to be we all had acquaintances..." lolol). favorite part so far was when it was raining zombies in the premiere.

I hope Carol and Glenn are up next on the shit character chopping block.

chronovore · « **Reply #56 on:** October 21, 2013, 12:45:28 PM »

Glen I like a lot. Somehow he feels like he hews closest to the comic version of any of the characters.

Tasty · « **Reply #57 on:** October 21, 2013, 01:06:20 PM »

Trying to hold back these comic spoilers.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #58 on:** October 21, 2013, 01:33:15 PM »

D'Angelo burning Cutty's white woman on some The Coli Higher Learning shit

I bet he's feeding the zombies rats too. He was the only person to learn of the infection and be completely unaccounted for throughout the rest of the episode.

Why not burn the walkers tho? They're gonna fuck that gate up very soon...

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #59 on:** October 21, 2013, 01:47:00 PM »

They have a doctor, farm dudes, Hershel kicking knowledge...but they couldn't find one crazy anti-government survivalist in the backwoods of Georgia who was familiar with pipe bombs n shit? Come on.

At least they aren't wasting ammo on the walkers at the gate. But still, one day they'll be stabbing walkers and that gate will fall on top of them...then they're all fucked.

Gasoline is valuable, but you don't need a whole lot to make a bomb. Plus, didn't The Governor have grenades and shit? Why not head back to Dingleberry and nab some.

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Eschaton