Author Topic: GDC Presentations for old farts (Read 2706 times)

Himu · « **on:** March 17, 2014, 12:36:20 PM »

Yu Suzuki is having a keynote with Cerny on the history of Shenmue at GDC.
Iga is doing a Metroidvania retrospective as well.

Where can we watch these? Will we be ALLOWED to watch them? Can you watch live?

a slime appears · « **Reply #1 on:** March 17, 2014, 03:43:02 PM »

The only way to legitimately watch these GDC sessions is to see them in person. But you'll be fine since I'm sure half the crowd there will be journalists furiously typing away at their keyboards so it's going to get a ton of coverage. Also, there are Lucasfilm Games, Robotron: 2084, and Zork postmortems for you classic game fans.

They have the recorded sessions available online but only if you have purchased an "All Access Pass" for GDC 2014 or buy a GDC Vault subscription. At some point in the future they may put it up here for free.

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I'll let you know how it is.

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Himu · « **Reply #2 on:** March 17, 2014, 04:10:01 PM »

Oh Lucasarts Games retrospective? Niiiice.

Is there a schedule?

Thank you, Slime!

a slime appears · « **Reply #3 on:** March 17, 2014, 04:14:23 PM »

Not sure if you can view the schedule without a login but here's the link: http://schedule.gdconf.com/list.

There are also some modern postmortems too covering Guacamelee!, Animal Crossing: New Leaf, FFXIV Realm Reborn, Rain, and Puppeteer.

chronovore · « **Reply #4 on:** March 17, 2014, 09:21:08 PM »

GDC is so much fun. I wish I were there this year! $:-\$

Himu · « **Reply #5 on:** March 17, 2014, 11:32:02 PM »

omggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

game spot has a livestream for shenmue and lucasarts!!!

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/watch-gdc-live-livestreams-of-bioshock-shenmue-lucasarts-and-more-panels/1100-6418362/

Tasty · « **Reply #6 on:** March 17, 2014, 11:34:31 PM »

OK, this joke was funny for like, the first ten years. But come on Sega, it's time to stop

Himu · « **Reply #7 on:** March 17, 2014, 11:35:01 PM »

SEGA LOST THE TRADEMARK TO SHENMUE?

My actual reaction.

Himu · « **Reply #8 on:** March 17, 2014, 11:38:32 PM »

Tasty · « **Reply #9 on:** March 17, 2014, 11:40:04 PM »

who cares about shenmooey anyways am i right guys

Himu · « **Reply #10 on:** March 17, 2014, 11:56:09 PM »

a slime appears · « **Reply #11 on:** March 17, 2014, 11:58:01 PM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 17, 2014, 11:32:02 PM

omggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

game spot has a livestream for shenmue and lucasarts!!!

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http://www.gamespot.com/articles/watch-gdc-live-livestreams-of-bioshock-shenmue-lucasarts-and-more-panels/1100-6418362/

Oh shit, I didn't know they could stream the sessions live!

Man this is awesome, I was really bummed that I had to miss a few of these because of meetings (AND BECAUSE I PAID $1000 JUST FOR A GODDAMN CONFERENCE TICKET).

Himu · « **Reply #12 on:** March 17, 2014, 11:59:46 PM »

What if.

WHAT IF.

They use the Sony VR to help spearhead Shenmue 3-5?

Sweet mercy of fuck I would die. Right then.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #13 on:** March 18, 2014, 02:06:16 AM »

what does it feel like to love a game that is so unloved that it will never even be considered for rerelease

Oblivion · « **Reply #14 on:** March 18, 2014, 04:50:19 AM »

Why is Cerny present as well?

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 18, 2014, 04:54:00 AM »

Quote from: Oblivion on March 18, 2014, 04:50:19 AM

Why is Cerny present as well?

BECAUSE SHENMUE'S COMING TO PS4!

cool breeze · « **Reply #16 on:** March 18, 2014, 03:24:38 PM »

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once day ryo will catch lan di

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Himu · « **Reply #17 on:** March 19, 2014, 04:27:00 PM »

30 minutes

http://www.gamespot.com/videos/classic-game-postmortem-shenmue/2300-6417813/

Himu · « **Reply #18 on:** March 19, 2014, 04:33:18 PM »

Quote from: Positive Touch on March 18, 2014, 02:06:16 AM

what does it feel like to love a game that is so unloved that it will never even be considered for rerelease

Shenmue has a lot of licensed stuff that stop it from getting a re-release.

brob · « **Reply #19 on:** March 19, 2014, 05:03:19 PM »

Himu, did u see read about the Animal Crossing: New Leaf post mortem?

Himu · « **Reply #20 on:** March 19, 2014, 05:12:00 PM »

Not yet.

I'm watching Shenmue postmortem now. I'm seeing step by step of creation process of my two favorite games. This is fascinating.

a slime appears · « **Reply #21 on:** March 19, 2014, 05:12:13 PM »

I'm at the Shenmue session right now! Cerny is handling translation and Suzuki is talking about the original prototype.

Himu · « **Reply #22 on:** March 19, 2014, 05:13:31 PM »

This is amazing. The Peach Tree prototype sounds amazing.

Himu · « **Reply #23 on:** March 19, 2014, 05:16:28 PM »

The China research is amazing to finally see. Yu Suzuki wearing a gi!

a slime appears · « **Reply #24 on:** March 19, 2014, 05:43:19 PM »

ROFL first question is asking about Shenmue III

Himu · « **Reply #25 on:** March 19, 2014, 05:47:41 PM »

Hahha yeah.

Great presentation. I was hoping II would have a post mortem.

It's my favorite!

Raban · « **Reply #26 on:** March 19, 2014, 06:15:31 PM »

Quote from: Brobzoid on March 19, 2014, 05:03:19 PM

Himu, did u see read about the Animal Crossing: New Leaf post mortem?

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I would very much like to see this. I hope it's streamed somewhere.

brob · « **Reply #27 on:** March 19, 2014, 06:25:10 PM »

Dunno, I just saw some tweets about. Suspect there will be a write-up on gamasutra about it in the not-too-distant future tho

Himu · « **Reply #28 on:** March 19, 2014, 10:33:46 PM »

Tasty · « **Reply #29 on:** March 19, 2014, 11:00:42 PM »

So did they actually confirm Shenmue 3?

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Human Snorenado · « **Reply #30 on:** March 19, 2014, 11:13:30 PM »

"post mortem"

I mean, some people have compared Shenmue fandom to disgusting aberrations like necrophilia, so maybe?

Himu · « **Reply #31 on:** March 20, 2014, 02:45:42 AM »

Thought this was really cool.

Pretty much places the bulk of the franchise in China as expected. Though, this was for Virtua Fighter RPG and not Shenmue.

Shenmue III taking place in rural China would be a great 180 to the urban decay of the Kowloon and the city sprawl of Honk Kong, but it could have been a bit redundant given the naturalism on display in the Guilin chapter. Maybe, maybe not. I wonder where else Ryo would go.

I really enjoyed Yu going into the tech they made for the Gulin section of Shenmue II which helped create a large dense forest with such small space. Very inventive tech.

Himu · « **Reply #32 on:** March 20, 2014, 02:55:14 AM »

Shenmue II still is the most beautiful and wonderful game experience I've ever had. I'm mad he's pushing II to a new keynote but then maybe again that means more juicy details.

Raban · « **Reply #33 on:** March 20, 2014, 03:25:17 AM »

Polygon did a decent article that covered Bioware Montreal's Manveer Heir talking about how games ought to start tackling social injustice head on instead of dancing around the topic. At one point he describes a game that I think the Bore would love

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Heir posited a game where a soldier comes out as gay to his unit, and as he works to build their trust and acceptance, the unit cohesion and fighting prowess of the unit grows stronger over time.

It's not a long read so just give 'em a hit and enjoy
http://www.polygon.com/2014/3/19/5528066/mass-effect-manveer-heir-gdc-social-injustice
I hope there's a video eventually

Himu · « **Reply #34 on:** March 20, 2014, 03:41:13 AM »

Trying to find Animal Crossing post mortem.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #35 on:** March 20, 2014, 04:17:34 AM »

Thats some interesting Shenmue stuff. Wish I would have played the game back then. Only played the Xbox demo.

benjipwns · « **Reply #36 on:** March 20, 2014, 05:13:24 AM »

Well, I'm pretty surprised that it's such a hamfisted narrative and gameplay concept.

And also completely surprised that such a talk references something like Papers, Please and its negative yet memorial portrayal and then kinda runs away from it to pursue an endlessly positive vision of combating stereotypes.

Disclaimer: Going by Polygon's summary, I have not seen or read the talk or anything from Mr. Heir beyond that.

P.S. Fun comments.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #37 on:** March 20, 2014, 09:23:58 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on March 20, 2014, 05:13:24 AM

Well, I'm pretty surprised that it's such a hamfisted narrative and gameplay concept.

From BIOWARE???

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #38 on:** March 21, 2014, 05:16:28 PM »

So Suzuki wants to kickstart Shenmue 3?

a slime appears · « **Reply #39 on:** March 23, 2014, 08:42:35 AM »

Holy fucking shit GDC kicked my ass, rofl. I just woke up from sleeping for 14 hours straight. I was too busy networking/job hunting/in meetings to make it to a lot of GDC sessions so I'll be catching up in this thread and looking online for other session coverage. Hopefully I might have some good news in the near future to share

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #40 on:** March 23, 2014, 09:05:03 AM »

Quote from: a slime appears on March 23, 2014, 08:42:35 AM

Holy fucking shit GDC kicked my ass, rofl. I just woke up from sleeping for 14 hours straight. I was too busy networking/job hunting/in meetings to make it to a lot of GDC sessions so I'll be catching up in this thread and looking online for other session coverage. Hopefully I might have some good news in the near future to share

...you're gonna be on the Shenmue 3 team?

DON'T TOY WITH HIMU'S FRAGILE EMOTIONS LIKE THAT!

Raban · « **Reply #41 on:** March 23, 2014, 12:49:17 PM »

articles on Igarashi's talk;
polygon

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Igarashi also shared his guidelines for making good Metroidvania games. Developers must make it fun to control the player character and eliminate any potential points that would make it feel stressful; this must also be the same character from start to finish, although players should be able to unlock and equip new items to change up the available actions. Maps must also promote exploration, but not be completely free. There are limits, Igarashi said — if the player simply clears a game, maps that have been created with a single path don't promote revisiting. Revisiting areas can be a burden, unless players are determined to unlock every last item. Players that do revisit areas should be rewarded with new items.

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In terms of balancing out enemies, Igarashi stressed the importance of boss fights. Developers should focus on balancing boss fights and making them the best they can be, since "the bosses are the stars of the game." Igarashi shared his rue of thumb for making bosses: The boss programmer should be able to defeat the enemy without taking a single hit. That's how you know the boss was developed correctly, and it clearly demonstrates signals for how to defeat it.

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"I know I've been away from games in this genre for a while," he said. "But I hope things made sense. I want to believe one of the reasons why this speaking opportunity came up is because we're seeing less of these types of games and many fans are waiting for the next one. And now that I've gone independent, I can create things as I wish and not adhere to the company's wishes. If there is a desire, I believe I will be able to turn that into reality."

gamasutra

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The team was tasked with improving the game's controls and extending its lifespan, without meaningfully conflicting with the canonical brand. An early significant decision was to remove death by falling, a standard of the fairly grueling earlier Castlevania games. ("we hated, hated falling to your death") he says.

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"Also it can be effective to guide the player along the main path by adding items to branches. It provides an atmosphere to the player, and at an early stage I try to provide moments where the player is unlocking new areas through the skills they have acquired."

"It's not a 'stage clear' type of game," says the pioneer.

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Author Topic: GDC Presentations for old farts (Read 2706 times)