Author Topic: FIFA World Cup 2014 thread of GER bests ARG, Neuer wins Glove, Messi wins Ball (Read 182523 times)

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #1320 on:** June 30, 2014, 03:05:34 AM »

Omg I can't believe how salty US comments are about Holland winning and Robben being fouled

Kara · « **Reply #1321 on:** June 30, 2014, 03:26:01 AM »

Quote from: TalesofWin on June 29, 2014, 08:13:00 PM

based on history CONCACAF is shit. Meanwhile UEFA hasnt missed a final since 1950. That my friend is domination.

Setting aside the fact that 50 years ago from this World Cup or the previous one nets not another World Cup from which to start from (I chose 1962 for the sake of simplicity), 30% of these appearances are by just one country (Federal Republic of Germany) and another 38% of these appearances are by just 2 other teams (Italy and Nevergonnawinlands). Given such healthy spread in this UEFA domination, I can see why they need to have 13 fucking bids to the World Cup.

Mandark · « **Reply #1322 on:** June 30, 2014, 03:31:20 AM »

To be fair, the expansion of Euro 2016 to 24 teams shows that UEFA was also underrepresented in its own tournament.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #1323 on:** June 30, 2014, 04:14:27 AM »

Aren't there more countries in Europe then in the Americas?

Mandark · « **Reply #1324 on:** June 30, 2014, 05:30:28 AM »

If we're counting member associations as countries, UEFA has very slightly more than CONCACAF/CONMEBOL, but very slightly fewer than CAF.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #1325 on:** June 30, 2014, 05:54:27 AM »

And there are 13 European and 9 Americas contenders, seems fair no?

Mandark · « **Reply #1326 on:** June 30, 2014, 06:27:13 AM »

By the logic of the sheer number of countries? In that case Africa would have the most. Which, you know.

I don't think anyone's saying it's wildly skewed in UEFA's favor. We're just having some fun with SantaC's argument that some European countries were robbed of their rightful place in the tournament by FIFA shortchanging UEFA on WC bids. Which was really just a "please understand" for Sweden not making it, anyways.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #1327 on:** June 30, 2014, 07:20:19 AM »

Oh ok

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #1328 on:** June 30, 2014, 11:32:16 AM »

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #1329 on:** June 30, 2014, 11:36:30 AM »

Please make this the new Bore homepage Demi

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #1330 on:** June 30, 2014, 01:27:03 PM »

I'm not really a soccer fan, so the question might be a bit naive, but why are penalty kicks so close? It seems like a rule that was instituted 70 years ago when players weren't so strong and accurate (similar to the extra point rule in American Football).

I would guess to an 80% success for a professional to make that shot. You would think they'd move the line back a bit to make it more like a 50/50 proposition. Especially in penalty kicks rounds, when so much is on the line.

It seems odd to watch a competition where you are waiting to see who will fail, rather than who will succeed.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #1331 on:** June 30, 2014, 01:45:28 PM »

It seems real close but those 11 meters can look very far when standing there.

Its not that easy. Plus the goal is not empty

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1332 on:** June 30, 2014, 01:47:03 PM »

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CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #1333 on:** June 30, 2014, 02:02:24 PM »

Damn I stopped watching to get some work done at around 70', guess France must have done some work at the end

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #1334 on:** June 30, 2014, 02:24:49 PM »

Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on June 30, 2014, 01:43:12 PM

It's a lot more difficult than you think, speaking from experience. It's very fair in that it's a 50/50 chance of scoring or not.

According to this research I dug up, it's closer to 80% success.

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This paper is an essential starting place for an analysis for the impact of penalty shoot-outs in competitive international football as it reports some empirical findings on events in penalty shoot-outs in the World Cup (WC), European Championships (EC) and the Copa America (CA). The results are fascinating; here is a glimpse. The percentage success rate in the World Cup is 71.2% compared to 82.7% (CA) and 84.6% (EC), possibly reflecting the greater importance and consequent pressure of the world stage. The success rate of each penalty kick changes throughout the competition:

First kick 86.6%
Second kick 81.7%
Third kick 79.3%
Fourth kick 72.5%
Fifth kick 80%
‘Sudden death’ kicks 64.3%

http://www.penaltyshootouts.co.uk/research.html

SantaC · « **Reply #1335 on:** June 30, 2014, 02:48:39 PM »

UEFA UEFA UEFA!

viva la france.

Kara · « **Reply #1336 on:** June 30, 2014, 03:20:08 PM »

Quote from: Premium Lager on June 30, 2014, 04:14:27 AM

Aren't there more countries in Europe then in the Americas?

While the Caribbean is full of countries whose existence as anything other than financial conduits for shady espionage and tax evasion is fiction, are we really going to pretend countries like Andorra, whose co-princes are the president of France and a Catholic bishop, or Northern Ireland are real countries? I love San Marino, but it's only a country because Giuseppe Garibaldi is a trubro who honored his word after he was granted refuge there.

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #1337 on:** June 30, 2014, 05:55:01 PM »

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It's a lot more difficult than you think, speaking from experience. It's very fair in that it's a 50/50 chance of scoring or not.

i dont think its 50/50 - the idea is that a penalty is usually given in a goal scoring chance and , as per post above, you'd see northward of 80% conversion in an open game. In a penalty shoot out there is extra pressure so i think that would take the conversion percentage down.

That said - when you do step up to take a penalty as a non-pro player that distance suddenly seems a whole lot longer and the goals smaller. Even then - through playing 11 a side and futsal (where you are even closer but with much smaller goals) since i was a kid i have missed exactly one penalty

Of course, being English, this was in a final of a tournament ... In a shoot out... That we lost :/

Himu · « **Reply #1338 on:** June 30, 2014, 06:51:50 PM »

Had a busy weekend. Haven't watched any of the knock out games. Tried to avoid thread to not be spoiled. I've been spoiled for only the Mexico game. What are the best games so far in the knockout round? Watching all of them tonight.

SantaC · « **Reply #1339 on:** June 30, 2014, 06:54:50 PM »

UEFA wins again!

Africa and Asia already out. Time to take their slots.

SantaC · « **Reply #1340 on:** June 30, 2014, 09:58:55 PM »

Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on June 30, 2014, 07:18:34 PM

That game was amazing!

This World Cup > 2010 easily.

TalesOfLoss is adorable with his weak trolling, I almost feel sorry for him. After being shat on for his supposedly revoked nintardism he thinks he has some sort of advantage now. Someone give him a cookie.

what game was amazing? two pretty bad games today. greece vs costa rica was shit yesterday. What is better with this world cup? USA advancing I guess?

brawndolicious · « **Reply #1341 on:** June 30, 2014, 11:09:15 PM »

Even if Belgium beats the US, they'll be cheering in every language but Swedish.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #1342 on:** July 01, 2014, 03:49:01 AM »

STOP FUCKING UP THE FOOTBALL THREAD

Fifstar · « **Reply #1343 on:** July 01, 2014, 06:07:10 AM »

So was Germany so bad or Algeria so good? Probably a bit of both... I guess Neuer is the first false 1 of the world

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #1344 on:** July 01, 2014, 07:27:26 AM »

Quote from: Premium Lager on July 01, 2014, 03:49:01 AM

STOP FUCKING UP THE FOOTBALL THREAD

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #1345 on:** July 01, 2014, 09:14:08 AM »

I think Belgium has this, sorry guys

CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #1346 on:** July 01, 2014, 09:30:29 AM »

U-S-A! U-S-A!

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #1347 on:** July 01, 2014, 09:48:59 AM »

I just think Belgium has the quality AND experience to beat the US.

Belgian players have more experience due to where they play, also physically they might edge out because of this.

This has proven a key factor in all Knock out games so far, where the smaller nation usually peters out at the end of the game and the experience and physical training of the big team come through.

Mexico, Algeria, Nigeria, all played well but in the end they couldn't hold out anymore.

I heard the US has a physically well prepared team so I'm curious if they can stand the full 90 min. Klinsmann is experienced enough to let them pace themselves.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #1348 on:** July 01, 2014, 10:00:15 AM »

Oh US def has a shot, don't get me wrong I'm not selling them short. I'd say 40% chance.

But at this stage of the tournament there are other factors at work too and I feel Belgium would be the more cynical team as well.

You got guys like Lukaku and Vertonghen and more that know how it is to fight to the end and can make the difference at any stage, I just don't know if the US has that mentality and experience on their side.

Steve Youngblood · « **Reply #1349 on:** July 01, 2014, 10:04:54 AM »

One thing I don't like going in is that -- barring an Argentinian loss -- the group winners will be 7 for 7 going into the US game.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #1350 on:** July 01, 2014, 10:13:55 AM »

The world cup is already a success for the US now surviving the group.

Belgium doesn't feel like that, if they lose today this whole cup will be considered a failure.

Maybe this will be a deciding factor, either they will rise to the occasion or they will buckle under the pressure (like I predicted earlier). US can play free of any kind of pressure, Belgium can't.

I'd really like to see a Belgium - Holland semi, but maybe I'm dreaming too far ahead cause Costa Rica will be tough.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #1351 on:** July 01, 2014, 10:16:10 AM »

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #1352 on:** July 01, 2014, 10:18:32 AM »

I hope the one thing we can agree on is that the world cup needs a new winner, Holland, Belgium, Usa, Costa Rica.

All would have my stamp of approval.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #1353 on:** July 01, 2014, 10:29:51 AM »

I have this uneasy feeling of impending doom. US will lose 1-0 or 3-0.

If Altidore were 100%, which would allow everyone to move back in their natural positions, I would be more optimistic.

Himu · « **Reply #1354 on:** July 01, 2014, 10:38:43 AM »

Quote from: Premium Lager on July 01, 2014, 09:48:59 AM

I just think Belgium has the quality AND experience to beat the US.

Belgian players have more experience due to where they play, also physically they might edge out because of this.

This has proven a key factor in all Knock out games so far, where the smaller nation usually peters out at the end of the game and the experience and physical training of the big team come through.

Mexico, Algeria, Nigeria, all played well but in the end they couldn't hold out anymore.

I heard the US has a physically well prepared team so I'm curious if they can stand the full 90 min. Klinsmann is experienced enough to let them pace themselves.

This makes no sense considering USA played far more tough teams than Belgium - and won, or at least barely let them score - already. Are you saying Belgium > Germany?

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #1355 on:** July 01, 2014, 10:41:58 AM »

Himu, I don't think you get what I'm saying.

US - Germany was a non game since Germany was through. US still lost though.

Belgium has a different caliber of players with way more experience then the US.

This game is all or nothing.

US has a chance, but they are the underdog, this could work in their advantage but a betting man would put money on Belgium.

Check out the odds on betting sites to see what the invisible hand of the market thinks on this.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #1356 on:** July 01, 2014, 10:43:53 AM »

Germany had no impetus to play full-out out. There is quite a large margin of difference between the urgency of the two games.

Even though the US came out of the bracket of death, they were a bit fortunate to play an erratic Ghana team, a banged-up Portugal and a conservative German team. It's not to take away from what they accomplished, but it's not enough to consider them an elite squad.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #1357 on:** July 01, 2014, 10:54:16 AM »

got a haircut scheduled for 3

dear god please let the streaming on my phone work well

Himu · « **Reply #1358 on:** July 01, 2014, 10:54:50 AM »

Quote from: Premium Lager on July 01, 2014, 10:41:58 AM

Himu, I don't think you get what I'm saying.

US - Germany was a non game since Germany was through. US still lost though.

Belgium has a different caliber of players with way more experience then the US.

This game is all or nothing.

US has a chance, but they are the underdog, this could work in their advantage but a betting man would put money on Belgium.

Check out the odds on betting sites to see what the invisible hand of the market thinks on this.

We still beat Ghana, who gave Germany a run for their money. Anything can happen. Believe. I haven't been impressed by Belgium at all so I'm not sure where all this concern is coming from.

Kara · « **Reply #1359 on:** July 01, 2014, 11:16:07 AM »

Quote from: Positive Touch on July 01, 2014, 10:54:16 AM

got a haircut scheduled for 3

dear god please let the streaming on my phone work well

I got my hair cut in 10 minutes or something yesterday breh. Where's your dedication to ~~queen and~~ country?

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Be a square and buzz your hair brehs.

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Himu · « **Reply #1360 on:** July 01, 2014, 11:25:16 AM »

Quote from: The Business on July 01, 2014, 11:09:43 AM

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Link to this blasphemy.

Himu · « **Reply #1361 on:** July 01, 2014, 11:26:31 AM »

I am reading it now!

Himu · « **Reply #1362 on:** July 01, 2014, 11:29:57 AM »

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Instead of watching the game in the time-honored way of American sports fans—by thrusting a giant foam finger in the air, say, or devouring a large plate of Buffalo wings—your soccer fanatics have taken to aping the behavior of our fans from across the pond.
The scarves thing is an obvious example, but it's far from the only one. There's the self-conscious use of terms like "pitch," "match" and "kit," the songs lifted directly from English soccer stadiums, and even the appropriation of terrace couture.

Holy shit this guy is a total fucking moron wet blanket. A true Brit.

Kara · « **Reply #1363 on:** July 01, 2014, 11:33:46 AM »

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There's the self-conscious use of terms like "pitch," "match" and "kit," the songs lifted directly from English soccer stadiums, and even the appropriation of terrace couture.

That's rich coming from someone whose national anthem is set to "My Country, 'Tis of Thee."

Himu · « **Reply #1364 on:** July 01, 2014, 11:35:38 AM »

Dude complains that a Virginian arsenal fan is wearing a kit *gasp, look at the word I just wrote* when Asia is on English soccer dick too. But it's American fans? No, it's international soccer fans you moron. dcharlie please come and explain what ailment this man is suffering from

Himu · « **Reply #1365 on:** July 01, 2014, 11:39:43 AM »

The Problem I Have With Asian Soccer Fans (especially Koreans and their Park stanning)

Kara · « **Reply #1366 on:** July 01, 2014, 12:40:21 PM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on July 01, 2014, 11:35:38 AM

Dude complains that a Virginian arsenal fan is wearing a kit *gasp, look at the word I just wrote* when Asia is on English soccer dick too. But it's American fans? No, it's international soccer fans you moron. dcharlie please come and explain what ailment this man is suffering from

Proclaim you have the most popular league in the world and then get mad when people mimic your local culture brehs.

Himu · « **Reply #1367 on:** July 01, 2014, 12:45:01 PM »

I DONT KNOW

Kara · « **Reply #1368 on:** July 01, 2014, 12:59:29 PM »

Quote from: Esch on July 01, 2014, 12:44:09 PM

How are you guys so easily trolled by clickbait?

It's how I stay in shape as a troll. To be the best you have to run with the competition.

SantaC · « **Reply #1369 on:** July 01, 2014, 01:12:09 PM »

Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on July 01, 2014, 09:28:40 AM

I expect the US to come out on top, but not in a blowout, I think the US can win it since Belgium haven't been very impressive so far. And I'm sure the US will step up more than they did in the early games.

You never know, though. All I know is I want the US to somehow stick around. And I'll be rooting for them in their next two games. Hell, if the US somehow wins it all I'll be happy. Mostly cause I've been impressed with the interest I've seen so far from Americans.

Belgium had full 9 points and havent been impressive!? Only a clueless football fan would say that US Been better.

CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #1370 on:** July 01, 2014, 01:31:06 PM »

The first rule of SantaC is you do not talk to SantaC

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1371 on:** July 01, 2014, 01:42:16 PM »

I think it'll be a close game. Belgium plays the right way but the US has strong veteran leadership. The US' zone defense will be the difference maker.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1372 on:** July 01, 2014, 02:15:07 PM »

Quote from: Esch on July 01, 2014, 01:45:26 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on July 01, 2014, 01:42:16 PM
I think it'll be a close game. Belgium plays the right way but the US has strong veteran leadership. The US' zone defense will be the difference maker.

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Brehvolution · « **Reply #1373 on:** July 01, 2014, 02:16:45 PM »

Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on July 01, 2014, 02:05:52 PM

Extremely

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If only there was a tumblr for all the Hot Women of the World Cup.

Your Stalker · « **Reply #1374 on:** July 01, 2014, 02:29:20 PM »

god bless

SantaC · « **Reply #1375 on:** July 01, 2014, 03:17:20 PM »

Pfeew I am relieved Argentina won. In case USA wins today, Argentina will stop them in the quarters

Steve Youngblood · « **Reply #1376 on:** July 01, 2014, 03:19:08 PM »

Let's do this!

Brehvolution · « **Reply #1377 on:** July 01, 2014, 03:41:39 PM »

Steve Contra · « **Reply #1378 on:** July 01, 2014, 03:44:45 PM »

It was funnier when Ann Coulter did it

Mandark · « **Reply #1379 on:** July 01, 2014, 03:46:09 PM »

The Onion getting squeezed by Poe's Law.

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