Author Topic: The Bore Decides: What was the whitest sitcom of the 90s? (VICTOIRE) (Read 38431 times)

etiolate · « **Reply #60 on:** July 08, 2014, 01:39:25 PM »

Designing Woman had a major black character on the cast. I want to say Grace Under Fire had a black character or two as well.

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #61 on:** July 08, 2014, 01:48:41 PM »

Momo · « **Reply #62 on:** July 08, 2014, 01:50:12 PM »

Quote from: jakefromstatefarm on July 08, 2014, 01:48:41 PM

ALF (Image removed from quote.)

Only brown guy in here is an alien

Momo · « **Reply #63 on:** July 08, 2014, 01:54:07 PM »

etiolate · « **Reply #64 on:** July 08, 2014, 02:36:57 PM »

and he eats cats and wears hawaiin shirts

figure that out for yourself

Himu · « **Reply #65 on:** July 08, 2014, 02:37:54 PM »

Quote from: Steve Contra on July 08, 2014, 01:27:20 PM

I think judging from the delta between white viewership and black viewership I think the answer is indeed "Seinfeld"

There's more to race than black and white though and everyone likes seinfeld. There's even a curb episode of shaq watching The Contest.

nudemacusers · « **Reply #66 on:** July 08, 2014, 03:41:52 PM »

Quote from: etiolate on July 08, 2014, 02:36:57 PM

and he eats cats and wears hawaiin shirts

figure that out for yourself

Vietnamese tourist?

cool breeze · « **Reply #67 on:** July 08, 2014, 03:51:55 PM »

Quote from: etiolate on July 08, 2014, 01:39:25 PM

Designing Woman had a major black character on the cast.

checking wikipedia

Quote

Before coming to work at the Sugarbaker's, he had been raised by his grandmother, Dondi, after his mother, who was a drug addict, abandoned him. Anthony was unknowingly involved in a robbery of a local convenience store, which gets him sent to prison.

ok. all I remembered about that show were the white women with shoulder pads and big hair.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #68 on:** July 08, 2014, 03:58:12 PM »

It only lasted one episode, but I nominate Chad's World:

http://www.ultraculture.co.uk/12376-welcome-to-chads-world-seann-william-scott.htm

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #69 on:** July 08, 2014, 04:21:26 PM »

Wait, no one's said Sex and the City yet?

Mandark · « **Reply #70 on:** July 08, 2014, 05:06:27 PM »

Also, no Perfect Strangers?

Positive Touch · « **Reply #71 on:** July 08, 2014, 05:14:31 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on July 08, 2014, 04:21:26 PM

Wait, no one's said Sex and the City yet?

sex in the city 2 movie was god-tier racist trolling

Kara · « **Reply #72 on:** July 08, 2014, 05:16:21 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on July 08, 2014, 05:06:27 PM

Also, no Perfect Strangers?

It was in the OP.

Mandark · « **Reply #73 on:** July 08, 2014, 05:19:34 PM »

My reading and ctrl+f skillz both slipping.

What's the ruling on Saved by the Bell? Lark Voorhies, sure, but depending how we quantify whiteness it'd score pretty high IMO.

Himu · « **Reply #74 on:** July 08, 2014, 05:31:51 PM »

saved by the bell has mario lopez and Lark voorhies. dunno why you guys consider non-white to only be black

CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #75 on:** July 08, 2014, 05:34:10 PM »

I think a show can be pretty "white" regardless of one or two token minorities

Himu · « **Reply #76 on:** July 08, 2014, 05:38:51 PM »

It can be, but the whitest shows are the ones with all white casts and people who are non-white may struggle relating to. it's odd but it helps change the perception of the show even if it's just one or two minority characters. Not always, but it helps.

Mandark · « **Reply #77 on:** July 08, 2014, 05:41:56 PM »

What are the odds Lopez doesn't tick "white hispanic" when he's filling out the census?

Mandark · « **Reply #78 on:** July 08, 2014, 05:51:01 PM »

Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on July 08, 2014, 05:50:08 PM

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on July 08, 2014, 05:31:51 PM
saved by the bell has mario lopez and Lark voorhies. dunno why you guys consider non-white to only be black

Lisa Turtle was also in it.

Himu · « **Reply #79 on:** July 08, 2014, 06:14:54 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on July 08, 2014, 05:41:56 PM

What are the odds Lopez doesn't tick "white hispanic" when he's filling out the census?

who knows. he says he's of "mexican descent" tho

Steve Contra · « **Reply #80 on:** July 08, 2014, 06:15:53 PM »

A lot of black and mexican folk I know like Saved by the Bell, so it's a non-starter.

Also black folk like Boy Meets World for some reason

Himu · « **Reply #81 on:** July 08, 2014, 06:19:44 PM »

Boy Meets World is relatable. It's not like other shows featuring white characters. The characters grow through a lot of shit and aren't just upper class bohemians living in manhattan

Pickles the Firecat · « **Reply #82 on:** July 08, 2014, 06:20:33 PM »

NewsRadio seems like a pretty big missing piece of the puzzle right now. Kind of like Seinfeld where it's not a show about white people problems and it's not at all unaware...but at the end of the day, who watched it almost exclusively? White dudes. When I get a chance I'll comb over the current suggestions for more.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #83 on:** July 08, 2014, 06:27:20 PM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on July 08, 2014, 06:19:44 PM

Boy Meets World is relatable. It's not like other shows featuring white characters. The characters grow through a lot of shit and aren't just upper class bohemians living in manhattan

I was joking, I know the reason

spoiler (click to show/hide)

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Great Rumbler · « **Reply #84 on:** July 08, 2014, 06:37:49 PM »

Okay, a couple of serious suggestions here:

Yeah, they're 80's holdovers, but they aired into the 90's so they count.

Himu · « **Reply #85 on:** July 08, 2014, 06:42:48 PM »

this thread just makes me want to watch fresh prince of bel-air

Himu · « **Reply #86 on:** July 08, 2014, 06:46:00 PM »

God, thank goodness I'm black and I had shows to watch that had people that looked like me when I was growing up. Imagine being asian/arab/native american. Christ, it's depressing.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #87 on:** July 08, 2014, 07:07:05 PM »

Going back to watching old favorite sitcoms, episodes, or scenes is always interesting. It's one of the quickest ways to gauge how far you've come as far as your choice of humor goes. As far as I can tell it's been: laugh with the laugh track > laugh at slapstick/animated humor > laugh because your English is finally good enough to understand rudimentary jokes > laugh because you finally have a grasp of subtext and innuendo > laugh because you find the writing genuinely good and clever.

When this thread was created I went back to watch this scene. I remember gasping for air and almost peeing myself when it aired. Starts at 5:00.

Kara · « **Reply #88 on:** July 08, 2014, 07:10:27 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 08, 2014, 06:07:32 PM

also don't forget, zack is 1/16th native or something

that was such a good episode

It was.

I will defer to the people on Saved by the Bell, I feel like it was pretty white and its minority cast members' identities as minorities were not terribly relevant to the show (Running Zack episode aside). Kelly being Polish seemed like a bigger deal than Slater's or Lisa's identities to me, as an example, and really all that was was the old WASP "ha-ha look at the Pollack with an eye chart for a last name " schtick.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #89 on:** July 08, 2014, 07:11:11 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on July 08, 2014, 06:37:49 PM

Okay, a couple of serious suggestions here:

That intro.

Young Scott Baio.

Himu · « **Reply #90 on:** July 08, 2014, 07:11:47 PM »

Do you still laugh like that when watching it now, Shaka?

Himu · « **Reply #91 on:** July 08, 2014, 07:13:53 PM »

That sucks so much. Did you have any people to look up to on the silver screen that were Indian?

benjipwns · « **Reply #92 on:** July 08, 2014, 07:16:59 PM »

Quote from: Esch on July 08, 2014, 07:12:46 PM

have every dipshit american reference him to you

That's no way to talk about our Vice President.

Himu · « **Reply #93 on:** July 08, 2014, 07:19:29 PM »

Nothing from America though? It's so odd how America despite claiming to be a melting pot rarely has media that reflects that.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #94 on:** July 08, 2014, 07:20:37 PM »

Real talk, is Khan the most common last name in India, or just in one area?

cool breeze · « **Reply #95 on:** July 08, 2014, 07:25:49 PM »

Quote from: Esch on July 08, 2014, 07:12:46 PM

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on July 08, 2014, 06:46:00 PM
God, thank goodness I'm black and I had shows to watch that had people that looked like me when I was growing up. Imagine being asian/arab/native american. Christ, it's depressing.

have your only cultural icon in america be Apu and have every dipshit american reference him to you from the day you were born to ~2006 brehs

don't be greedy. you had hadji too. y'all didn't need to leach on arab characters like aladdin to find someone.

Himu · « **Reply #96 on:** July 08, 2014, 07:52:33 PM »

Hadji kicks ass though.

Himu · « **Reply #97 on:** July 08, 2014, 07:56:17 PM »

At least there were semi-diverse casts in stuff like power rangers, All That, and Captain Planet. Funnily, these were the more popular shows. Along with things like X-men where half the characters were blue. Thinking on it, this could be a big reason why those shows were as popular as they were, because a lot of people had someone to relate to watching them.

But the popular adult shows mentioned in this thread rarely embraced this. Just odd.

benjipwns · « **Reply #98 on:** July 08, 2014, 08:00:01 PM »

I related to Zordon.

Himu · « **Reply #99 on:** July 08, 2014, 08:01:51 PM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #100 on:** July 08, 2014, 08:08:02 PM »

Also the "villains" on Captain Planet who were just hardworking businessmen with really strange fetishes or horrible backgrounds who needed help, while the Planeteers were a bunch of moralizing kids kidnapped and brainwashed into supporting an eco-terrorist.

"Captain Planet" was a collective hallucination as they were setting bombs destroying property and killing workers.

Himu · « **Reply #101 on:** July 08, 2014, 08:15:38 PM »

Captain Planet infected my generation with socialism and left leaning politics.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #102 on:** July 08, 2014, 08:46:31 PM »

Also, although it was an 80's show that just barely spilled over into the 90's, it's hard to top the CACness of Newhart:

Himu · « **Reply #103 on:** July 08, 2014, 10:00:36 PM »

Ma-ti is kayopo native. But he was raised to be a shaman so...maybe magic Indian?

benjipwns · « **Reply #104 on:** July 08, 2014, 10:08:28 PM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on July 08, 2014, 08:15:38 PM

Captain Planet infected my generation with socialism and left leaning politics.

It was Ted Turner's plot all along.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #105 on:** July 08, 2014, 10:22:06 PM »

shasta mcnasty

edit: read the rules, it's murphy brown, then frasier, then friends. none of which were funny.

edit edit: OH SWEET GOD CAROLINE IN THE CITY. still, funnier than friends.

larrydavid · « **Reply #106 on:** July 08, 2014, 10:38:20 PM »

I could swear the lead lady on Gargoyles was half black half native.

This Frasier hate is unacceptable!!! Frajer is an icon!!!

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #107 on:** July 08, 2014, 10:46:37 PM »

on this episode of frasier, frasier/niles tell a big lie to a woman, co-op their dad into covering for them, and get outed. lulz.

alt: frasier/niles scheme to teach their dad a lesson, they appear as hypocrites, get clucked at by roz/daphne. lulz.

frasier was about as funny as anal ebola. it's THE litmus test for cacs: ever laugh at an ep of frasier? you're pureblood cac.

if you laughed at murphy brown, you're an ancient cacpire, the sire of all cacdom and you should have your demonic ass burnt on the altar of good taste.

benjipwns · « **Reply #108 on:** July 08, 2014, 10:48:31 PM »

Frasier/Niles throw a party, it goes wrong.

benjipwns · « **Reply #109 on:** July 08, 2014, 10:49:48 PM »

I don't know how much I laughed at Frasier but I'm cac enough to like it and probably smirk a few times. Plus it had nice scenes like this:

It's kinda crazy if 30 Rock rebuilt most of the set just for that 15 second Black Frasier joke.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #110 on:** July 08, 2014, 10:50:33 PM »

short form: FRASIER/NILES OVERTHINK SOME SHIT.

shorter form: WHITE PEOPLE, LOL.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #111 on:** July 08, 2014, 10:51:23 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on July 08, 2014, 10:49:48 PM

I don't know how much I laughed at Frasier but I'm cac enough to like it and probably smirk a few times. Plus it had nice scenes like this:

breh

benjipwns · « **Reply #112 on:** July 08, 2014, 10:53:18 PM »

but doggie

pilonv1 · « **Reply #113 on:** July 08, 2014, 11:04:19 PM »

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on July 08, 2014, 10:46:37 PM

frasier was about as funny as anal ebola. it's THE litmus test for cacs: ever laugh at an ep of frasier? you're pureblood cac.

My fiance (who is Viet) loves Frasier, so that must make her whiter than me

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #114 on:** July 08, 2014, 11:09:47 PM »

these cacs ain't loyal

Takao · « **Reply #115 on:** July 08, 2014, 11:17:25 PM »

I haven't seen 98% of the shows listed in this thread, but Fraiser is a really white person show. Like shit, the leads are named Fraiser and Niles.

larrydavid · « **Reply #116 on:** July 08, 2014, 11:56:19 PM »

no one is disputing the whiteness of Frasier because lord almighty was that show bleached bone white and my enjoyment of the show does indeed make me question my non-white status

we are arguing about the show's quality and hence its eligibility in this esteemed exercise

it's all good though because full house will win in a landslide and then we can hopefully move on to determining the least white shows of the 90s, shout out to ghostwriter!!!

Himu · « **Reply #117 on:** July 08, 2014, 11:57:15 PM »

Quote from: larrydavid on July 08, 2014, 11:56:19 PM

no one is disputing the whiteness of Frasier because lord almighty was that show bleached bone white and my enjoyment of the show does indeed make me question my non-white status

we are arguing about the show's quality and hence its eligibility in this esteemed exercise

it's all good though because full house will win in a landslide and then we can hopefully move on to determining the least white shows of the 90s, shout out to ghostwriter!!!

The PJ's.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #118 on:** July 09, 2014, 12:01:09 AM »

why tf is fraiser in the new expendables

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #119 on:** July 09, 2014, 12:06:13 AM »

Quote from: larrydavid on July 08, 2014, 11:56:19 PM

it's all good though because full house will win in a landslide and then we can hopefully move on to determining the least white shows of the 90s, shout out to ghostwriter!!!

Early 90's PBS: Ghostwriter, Reading Rainbow, Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego, Magic School Bus

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Author Topic: The Bore Decides: What was the whitest sitcom of the 90s? (VICTOIRE) (Read 38431 times)