1,000+ Pages of NeoGAF: The Story of Wasted Lives and Hardcore Salt

[StealthFan]

Superman Returns had tight flying. They just didn't crack the nut of the rest of the game.

They had the right idea giving Metropolis the health bar tho. It's an amazing concept, an escort mission where your charge is a city. Sounds fun

[dmj]

Sunset Overdrive would be kinda successful if it was multiplatform. I think that has a potential market. But that may just be the art style and "feeling" the game gives off to me.

The developer behind SO has been making mediocre to awful games for the last decade. Cant see what people are expecting here 

Which makes the championing all the more baffling. This is from the developers of FUSE and Ratchet All 4 One... How could anyone reasonably be excited for this game, when all you see people say about it is "the art style is nice"? 

[benjipwns]

Somebody should take another crack at a Superman game, building off what worked in Returns. Especially since we've had stuff like Batman, Saints Row IV, Infamous, etc. all kinda show that superhero games don't have to be totally dumb.

Go to Apokolips and stuff, fight Doomsday to the death, rescue more kittens, etc.

Returns was almost a launch game, it was on Renderware ffs

And they wasted time doing PS2/Xbox versions (which still have the sweet flying even if it's ugly):

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Somebody should take another crack at a Superman game, building off what worked in Returns. Especially since we've had stuff like Batman, Saints Row IV, Infamous, etc. all kinda show that superhero games don't have to be totally dumb.

Go to Apokolips and stuff, fight Doomsday to the death, rescue more kittens, etc.

Returns was almost a launch game, it was on Renderware ffs

And they did PS2/Xbox versions (which still have the sweet flying even if it's ugly):

It'll never happen but I'd love to see the devs of bayonetta get a chance with it. I think they could nail it.

[demi]

You can try both on WiiU now, its a dual package

[Am_I_Anonymous]

So the sad sight of Nintendo fanboys pretending to be extra excited about Bayonetta 2 continues. I wonder how many of them will actually buy the game, not just pay lip service and use it's great review scores in their forum battles.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=911321

I'd probably try Bayonetta if I had a X360/PS3 or 2 if I had  Wii U.

But I love how reviews suddenly matter because the scores are so high. The metacritic average is even in the damn thread title! I've been browsing GAF for at least 10 years and I've rarely seen that.

So review scores don't matter if your beloved, hyped-to-oblivion game isn't getting the ratings you wanted it to have, but do when the ratings are higher than expected.

Bayonetta was a FANTASTIC game on the 360. I heard it had issues on the PS3.....unsure how it perfoms on the WIIU but I assume it will be aligned with the XBOX's performance level.


Man I loved that damn game.

[Shaka Khan]

Man, there's no excuse for not picking Bayo 2 up if you have a Woo.

2 is apparently pretty solid, and 1 is an improved port over the 360 ver. Both are packed to the gills with content, like other Platinum games, and packaged/sold for the price of one. The value is insane.

... Now, imagine picking this up for $20 during the holidays.

[StealthFan]

Gonna check out the Bayonetta's. I wanna play mario kart first tho.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Man, there's no excuse for not picking Bayo 2 up if you have a Woo.

2 is apparently pretty solid, and 1 is an improved port over the 360 ver. Both are packed to the gills with content, like other Platinum games, and packaged/sold for the price of one. The value is insane.

... Now, imagine picking this up for $20 during the holidays.

[Shaka Khan]

Gonna check out the Bayonetta's. I wanna play mario kart first tho.

Smart. Kart won't be dropping in price anytime soon.

[StealthFan]

I am renting that shit. None of the Wii U games I want are cheap enough for me to buy. Like...goddam I forgot how Ninty games rarely drop in price. I wanted to buy Skyward Sword because I am a Zelda whore but that shit is still like 30-40 bucks

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Gonna check out the Bayonetta's. I wanna play mario kart first tho.

I promise you that you will not regret it.  Simply a fantastic world and a great protagonist.

[thisismyusername]

Sunset Overdrive would be kinda successful if it was multiplatform. I think that has a potential market. But that may just be the art style and "feeling" the game gives off to me.

The developer behind SO has been making mediocre to awful games for the last decade. Cant see what people are expecting here 

Sure, but that's ignoring the pop-punk "it's a game, stupid!" vibe the game is giving off.

I totally expect the game to be mediocre, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be marketable if it wasn't tied to the albatross that is the X-box.


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=911387

EmptySpace trying to firefight legit Gran Turismo critics with "LEAVE POLYPHONY ALONE!"

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Sunset Overdrive would be kinda successful if it was multiplatform. I think that has a potential market. But that may just be the art style and "feeling" the game gives off to me.

The developer behind SO has been making mediocre to awful games for the last decade. Cant see what people are expecting here 

Sure, but that's ignoring the pop-punk "it's a game, stupid!" vibe the game is giving off.

I totally expect the game to be mediocre, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be marketable if it wasn't tied to the albatross that is the X-box.

Warning, PS4 stanning is at a high level.

[thisismyusername]

Sunset Overdrive would be kinda successful if it was multiplatform. I think that has a potential market. But that may just be the art style and "feeling" the game gives off to me.

The developer behind SO has been making mediocre to awful games for the last decade. Cant see what people are expecting here 

Sure, but that's ignoring the pop-punk "it's a game, stupid!" vibe the game is giving off.

I totally expect the game to be mediocre, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be marketable if it wasn't tied to the albatross that is the X-box.

Warning, PS4 stanning is at a high level.

Warning: False statements.

If anything, I'm a "Steam stan." I don't even own a PS4, so you really should stop shooting from the hip, Anonymous. It makes you look bad.

[Take My Breh Away]

I'll be picking up Bayo 2 and Sunset Overdrive because they look great while picking everything else up in a steam sale to play at 1080P 60FPS

Overcome the shackles of current gen console stanning by being a lifelong bitter Sega Stanley, brehs

[StealthFan]

Xbone might turn out alright. Other than Halo (which kind of sucks dick now) and maybe Quantum Break (which looks like an interactive movie) there ain't dick I'd touch.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Sunset Overdrive would be kinda successful if it was multiplatform. I think that has a potential market. But that may just be the art style and "feeling" the game gives off to me.

The developer behind SO has been making mediocre to awful games for the last decade. Cant see what people are expecting here 

Sure, but that's ignoring the pop-punk "it's a game, stupid!" vibe the game is giving off.

I totally expect the game to be mediocre, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be marketable if it wasn't tied to the albatross that is the X-box.

Warning, PS4 stanning is at a high level.

Warning: False statements.

If anything, I'm a "Steam stan." I don't even own a PS4, so you really should stop shooting from the hip, Anonymous. It makes you look bad.

Right, kinda like off the cuff shots at the XBone, amirite?

[StealthFan]

[thisismyusername]

Xbone might turn out alright. Other than Halo (which kind of sucks dick now) and maybe Quantum Break (which looks like an interactive movie) there ain't dick I'd touch.

It's the same with the PS4. Outside of like Uncharted and maybe Infamous, there's dick-all "exclusives" to fuck with on either console.

Insomniac fucked up by going multiplatform with Fuse and focus testing that to death to where no one wanted it. Sunset Overdrive actually had some "hype" from people until it was revealed to be X-box only (after the X-box DRM fiasco), that fucked them completely.

Sunset Overdrive would be kinda successful if it was multiplatform. I think that has a potential market. But that may just be the art style and "feeling" the game gives off to me.

The developer behind SO has been making mediocre to awful games for the last decade. Cant see what people are expecting here 

Sure, but that's ignoring the pop-punk "it's a game, stupid!" vibe the game is giving off.

I totally expect the game to be mediocre, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be marketable if it wasn't tied to the albatross that is the X-box.

Warning, PS4 stanning is at a high level.

Warning: False statements.

If anything, I'm a "Steam stan." I don't even own a PS4, so you really should stop shooting from the hip, Anonymous. It makes you look bad.

Right, kinda like off the cuff shots at the XBone, amirite?

Oh, hi there. See above where I drag the PS4 as well. Private Dick.

[StealthFan]

Bloodborne is gonna be tight. Uncharted will be cool and while I didn't care for Second Son I fucked with First Light. Even if there aren't that many exclusives this gen I don't really fuck with PC gaming, and if I did it wouldn't be for console ports.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Look I get it, PC wins. However some of us don't really want to have to write scripts to play games.....


i still want DayZ though :-)

[StealthFan]

I remember niccas arguing that the PSN outage was worse than the DRM shit Niccas be fucking delusional. DRM fiasco MURDERED Microsoft this gen.

[demi]

Yall can watch me stream it and we can call it shit together

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Yall can watch me stream it and we can call it shit together

Awesome. Can I like offer tips like we did when 4 of us huddled around the NES playing Final Fantasy all night?

[Yulwei]

Im picking up Halo TMCC and Sunset Overdrive

Dragon Age Inquisition too but I will wait on player impressions first

[Mr. Nobody]

Sunset Overdrive would be kinda successful if it was multiplatform. I think that has a potential market. But that may just be the art style and "feeling" the game gives off to me.

The developer behind SO has been making mediocre to awful games for the last decade. Cant see what people are expecting here 

"It looks so fun and colorful!!!! "

To me, it looks like it's trying too hard to sell me on that instead of just being fun.

But I love how reviews suddenly matter because the scores are so high. The metacritic average is even in the damn thread title! I've been browsing GAF for at least 10 years and I've rarely seen that.

So review scores don't matter if your beloved, hyped-to-oblivion game isn't getting the ratings you wanted it to have, but do when the ratings are higher than expected.

It's like that for gaming forums all across the internet I'm afraid.

Man, there's no excuse for not picking Bayo 2 up if you have a Woo.

2 is apparently pretty solid, and 1 is an improved port over the 360 ver. Both are packed to the gills with content, like other Platinum games, and packaged/sold for the price of one. The value is insane.

... Now, imagine picking this up for $20 during the holidays.

 

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Im picking up Halo TMCC and Sunset Overdrive

Dragon Age Inquisition too but I will wait on player impressions first

Has there ever been a bigger big series fuckup than DAII? What a pile of bear shit that was.

[thisismyusername]

To me, it looks like it's trying too hard to sell me on that instead of just being fun.

That's the other problem it has. It's going "try hard" so far. If the gameplay actually spoke for itself instead of all those marketing videos that don't even show off the game (and show off "Fizzy" more) it'd probably would get hype.

[StealthFan]

I'm def renting Far Cry 4 and DAIII. AC Unity was a consideration until I saw more videos and realized it really is same ass AC but prettier. The animations do look WAY better tho, and transversal no longer looks janky as fuck.

[Yulwei]

Im picking up Halo TMCC and Sunset Overdrive

Dragon Age Inquisition too but I will wait on player impressions first

Has there ever been a bigger big series fuckup than DAII? What a pile of bear shit that was.

As far as sequels go DMC2 was a horrendous followup to 1, but yeah I cant think of any worse than DAII right now though I'm sure they exist.

[Shaka Khan]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=134135645

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[Am_I_Anonymous]

Im picking up Halo TMCC and Sunset Overdrive

Dragon Age Inquisition too but I will wait on player impressions first

Has there ever been a bigger big series fuckup than DAII? What a pile of bear shit that was.

As far as sequels go DMC2 was a horrendous followup to 1, but yeah I cant think of any worse than DAII right now though I'm sure they exist.

Oh yeah forgot about DMC2

[Tasty]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134108039&postcount=10552

This I disagree with, completely.

I started supporting #GamerGate because of the "Gamers are dead" articles. To me, Gamer is more than a label. It's a banner that people unite under, because of a love of videogames. It's the idea that differences in race, gender, social status, wealth, etc. faded into the background, because we were all just gamers.

Seeing those articles saying that gamers are dead, and that "now you babies have to accept women into your boys club" was incredibly frustrating, because it feels like no one understands what Gamer actually meant.

So I found like-minded people, who too thought Gamer was just an inclusive term we could unite under, and they fell under the tag #GamerGate. Any of the people I've talked to in the #gamergate tag have shared these views. Seeing people say things like the above just reignites that feeling of "what? No, you don't understand".

It's frustrating, and I think that's how boogie feels too. Being misrepresented is such an incredibly frustrating feeling. Being told that you ARE a misogynist when you were only joining a cause to fight back against the specific people who told you that what you believed in was wrong was such a massive shock to the system.

It still bugs me to hear it now, because that isn't why I, nor many people I know, joined #GamerGate. That's why many of those people have stuck with it for so long.

To be fair though, things have gotten incredibly gross. I stuck around for a week before I decided I didn't care what a bunch of websites I never visited thought of me or my ideals, and I kind of felt dumb for my knee-jerk reaction. I know a lot of people on the #GamerGate side who are coming to that realization slowly, and a lot of people who actually believe in the ethics stuff, are getting sick and tired of having the "movement" co-opted by political parties.

I've went back on twitter and tried to inform people essentially what Boogie's video was, that "if you don't agree with it, don't give it traffic", but people are struggling with that.

I also feel that's why Boogie is so strongly defending #GamerGate, because he feels the same way I did/do. Gamer actually MEANS something to us, and when you attacked it, we took up arms under a banner (misguided as it may be) and took a stand against that BS. He is / was sticking up for the people who are idealistic, (even naive, I guess) because he had the same reaction we did, and he doesn't want to see anyone get hurt.

People who are doing the harassment, and the ZQ stuff? Gross. Super super gross. I haven't actually witnessed anyone I know participating in harassment, but it's the internet and people can be whoever they want whenever they want, so I don't know for sure if they are / aren't active participants.

*barfs*

This person either didn't read or completely missed the point of Leigh's article.

[thisismyusername]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=134135645

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What is with Sony fans and defending subpar racing titles?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134133539&postcount=268

Uh... Forza?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134132972&postcount=256



(to be fair: Cockpit view in nearly all racers is mostly terrible because of no user controlled view options)

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134132300&postcount=247

This nicca.

[StealthFan]

Niccas acted surprised DMC2 was trash. I knew that shit even when I was 14, because there were previews for that shit like half a year after the first one released. I was like " How is this new one coming so fast? Something is amiss" and sure enough it was terrible. I was still pissed even though I expected it. I loved the first one.

[Momo]

Yall can watch me stream it and we can call it shit together

Awesome. Can I like offer tips like we did when 4 of us huddled around the NES playing Final Fantasy all night?

These are some good memories

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Niccas acted surprised DMC2 was trash. I knew that shit even when I was 14, because there were previews for that shit like half a year after the first one released. I was like " How is this new one coming so fast? Something is amiss" and sure enough it was terrible. I was still pissed even though I expected it. I loved the first one.

Back to DAII....it's like Bioware said "let's take everything everyone liked about part 1 and remove it or fuck it up beyond recognition!" I will never understand how that shit got greenlighted.

[Shaka Khan]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=134135645

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What is with Sony fans and defending subpar racing titles?

What else can a father do for his colorblind, drooling daughter?

[Momo]

Forza isnt even close to Gran Turismo you racing peasants

I dicked around with Forza on my 360, but abandoned it quickly for GT's shithole menus and interfaces

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Forza isnt even close to Gran Turismo you racing peasants

I dicked around with Forza on my 360, but abandoned it quickly for GT's shithole menus and interfaces

See I prefer Forza over GT....GT just feels to......I dunno....robotic.

[Momo]

Niccas acted surprised DMC2 was trash. I knew that shit even when I was 14, because there were previews for that shit like half a year after the first one released. I was like " How is this new one coming so fast? Something is amiss" and sure enough it was terrible. I was still pissed even though I expected it. I loved the first one.

Back to DAII....it's like Bioware said "let's take everything everyone liked about part 1 and remove it or fuck it up beyond recognition!" I will never understand how that shit got greenlighted.

BioShock as a sequel to System Shock II to me is the most disappointed I've ever been in a game. That and Phantasy Star III, because fuck that game

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Niccas acted surprised DMC2 was trash. I knew that shit even when I was 14, because there were previews for that shit like half a year after the first one released. I was like " How is this new one coming so fast? Something is amiss" and sure enough it was terrible. I was still pissed even though I expected it. I loved the first one.

Back to DAII....it's like Bioware said "let's take everything everyone liked about part 1 and remove it or fuck it up beyond recognition!" I will never understand how that shit got greenlighted.

BioShock as a sequel to System Shock II to me is the most disappointed I've ever been in a game. That and Phantasy Star III, because fuck that game

hmmmmm.....I enjoyed Bioshock

Forgot another shitty game in a series....ME3.....WTF happened?

[thisismyusername]

Forza isnt even close to Gran Turismo you racing peasants

Yes it is.

It may not have the "24/7" Day/Night Cycles, but as far as the racing goes? It nails it. It's been nailing it for a while and has damage models that effect the car. Something GT5 didn't have.

That said, iRacing/RFactor/etc. on PC shits on both GT and Forza from a great height if you're actually looking for the "sim" aspects of the "racing sim" genre.

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=134135645

This club is a [ m e s s ]

What is with Sony fans and defending subpar racing titles?

What else can a father do for his colorblind, drooling daughter?

That whole post was

[Tasty]

So the sad sight of Nintendo fanboys pretending to be extra excited about Bayonetta 2 continues. I wonder how many of them will actually buy the game, not just pay lip service and use it's great review scores in their forum battles.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=911321

Better question: how are they going to get their moms to buy it for them?

[StealthFan]

ME3 Fuck that game, brehs.  Shit felt so small in scope for a big finish. You can tell that shit was rushed, so it wasn't just the ending that was poor. Still that ending was cancer.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

ME3 (Image removed from quote.) Fuck that game, brehs.  Shit felt so small in scope for a big finish. You can tell that shit was rushed, so it wasn't just the ending that was poor. Still that ending was cancer.

It just felt so linear and plain. ME2 was the shit, how did they fuck that up. The only thing worth shit on ME3 is the Citadel DLC.

[thisismyusername]

ME3 (Image removed from quote.) Fuck that game, brehs.

What were you expecting after Mass Effect 2? The game that was basically "Commander Shepard fucks all the females and then does some throw-away 'main' plot within the last hour of the title."

ME1 was the only one worth playing and that's completely disregarding the terrible combat mechanics (which 2 nailed at the expense of world-building).

[Momo]

Niccas acted surprised DMC2 was trash. I knew that shit even when I was 14, because there were previews for that shit like half a year after the first one released. I was like " How is this new one coming so fast? Something is amiss" and sure enough it was terrible. I was still pissed even though I expected it. I loved the first one.

Back to DAII....it's like Bioware said "let's take everything everyone liked about part 1 and remove it or fuck it up beyond recognition!" I will never understand how that shit got greenlighted.

BioShock as a sequel to System Shock II to me is the most disappointed I've ever been in a game. That and Phantasy Star III, because fuck that game

hmmmmm.....I enjoyed Bioshock

Forgot another shitty game in a series....ME3.....WTF happened?

BioShock isnt by any means bad, but as a sequel to SSII my heart dropped faster than amanda's panties around drake

[Momo]

Forza isnt even close to Gran Turismo you racing peasants

Yes it is.

It may not have the "24/7" Day/Night Cycles, but as far as the racing goes? It nails it. It's been nailing it for a while and has damage models that effect the car. Something GT5 didn't have.

That said, iRacing/RFactor/etc. on PC shits on both GT and Forza from a great height if you're actually looking for the "sim" aspects of the "racing sim" genre.

I disagree, GT racing feels a lot better and I can predict how my car behaves a lot better than Forza. I dont want to get too into it, but if we're talking gold  standard then imo it's Geoff Crammond GP4, what a game

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Oh forgot another shit ass game in a series....Resident Evil 6 can go fuck itself.

[thisismyusername]

I disagree, GT racing feels a lot better and I can predict how my car behaves a lot better than Forza. I dont want to get too into it, but if we're talking gold  standard then imo it's Geoff Crammond GP4, what a game

I'd have to have you explain what you mean with GT. In GT the sim can basically be dumbed down to "buy racing softs for better grip. Buy all the engine upgrades you can and then tweak it." I can't recall an instance in Forza where buying two or three upgrades would suddenly make a car god-like. But

Granted, I haven't dived into either series nitty-gritty tuning options but "out of the box," driving in Forza felt better on controllers and racing wheels than GT's. You could "struggle" with the AI but with some nice driving beat them with a stock car. I can't remember doing that in GT outside of the first two or maybe three.

[Momo]

I disagree, GT racing feels a lot better and I can predict how my car behaves a lot better than Forza. I dont want to get too into it, but if we're talking gold  standard then imo it's Geoff Crammond GP4, what a game

I'd have to have you explain what you mean with GT. In GT the sim can basically be dumbed down to "buy racing softs for better grip. Buy all the engine upgrades you can and then tweak it." I can't recall an instance in Forza where buying two or three upgrades would suddenly make a car god-like. But

Granted, I haven't dived into either series nitty-gritty tuning options but "out of the box," driving in Forza felt better on controllers and racing wheels than GT's. You could "struggle" with the AI but with some nice driving beat them with a stock car. I can't remember doing that in GT outside of the first two or maybe three.

Stuff like this. I can predict the car better because I tweak the shit out of my cars from ride height, camber, suspension and all that shit no one touches. When I tweak things in there then go on track it's rare that the car doesnt perform as I set it up, it will lean right, over/understeer right etc. It doesnt do weird no body roll floaty shit like this.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

I disagree, GT racing feels a lot better and I can predict how my car behaves a lot better than Forza. I dont want to get too into it, but if we're talking gold  standard then imo it's Geoff Crammond GP4, what a game

I'd have to have you explain what you mean with GT. In GT the sim can basically be dumbed down to "buy racing softs for better grip. Buy all the engine upgrades you can and then tweak it." I can't recall an instance in Forza where buying two or three upgrades would suddenly make a car god-like. But

Granted, I haven't dived into either series nitty-gritty tuning options but "out of the box," driving in Forza felt better on controllers and racing wheels than GT's. You could "struggle" with the AI but with some nice driving beat them with a stock car. I can't remember doing that in GT outside of the first two or maybe three.

What I liked most about Forza is you can actually oversupe up your car. I put a bunch of shit into an acura and couldn't keep that shit on the road.

[Momo]

I tweaked a Viper so much it refused to turn, had to slow down to 2 km/p to turn brehs

Not that american cars ever turn anyway

[thisismyusername]

I disagree, GT racing feels a lot better and I can predict how my car behaves a lot better than Forza. I dont want to get too into it, but if we're talking gold  standard then imo it's Geoff Crammond GP4, what a game

I'd have to have you explain what you mean with GT. In GT the sim can basically be dumbed down to "buy racing softs for better grip. Buy all the engine upgrades you can and then tweak it." I can't recall an instance in Forza where buying two or three upgrades would suddenly make a car god-like. But

Granted, I haven't dived into either series nitty-gritty tuning options but "out of the box," driving in Forza felt better on controllers and racing wheels than GT's. You could "struggle" with the AI but with some nice driving beat them with a stock car. I can't remember doing that in GT outside of the first two or maybe three.

Stuff like this. I can predict the car better because I tweak the shit out of my cars from ride height, camber, suspension and all that shit no one touches. When I tweak things in there then go on track it's rare that the car doesnt perform as I set it up, it will lean right, over/understeer right etc. It doesnt do weird no body roll floaty shit like this.

That body roll was first introduced in GT6 wasn't it? I have GT5 and I can't recall the car "sway"ing like that in third person.

But yeah. I'll side with you in that regard because again: I haven't dove into the tweaking settings too much to accurate say. I just prefer Forza's driving model mostly because it's possible to use a controller or wheel to play it. Whereas GT has been pushing more toward wheels-required type of gameplay which is fine if you have a wheel, but terrible if you're buying the title for casual "sim"-like racing.

[demi]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=133985966&postcount=83

This avatar.... lmao

[Momo]

Yeah GT5 had stupid body roll, everything was a 4x4 that weighed as much as a tank. But body roll is just an example, mostly what I like about GT is the driving model works. I tweak, it behaves like I expect.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=133985966&postcount=83

This avatar.... lmao

Over under on how fast until he gets banned.

I'll set it at 2pm eastern time.

[StealthFan]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=133985966&postcount=83

This avatar.... lmao