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studyguy

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The story of metal gear is one man's struggle to become a film director only to have to settle for appeasing neckbeards into video games.

I think they're alright, but it has gotten to be too much for me.
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OnlyRegret

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=171397891&postcount=1033

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That line just makes me laugh. Imagine an accent along with it to add on.
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thisismyusername

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Dude seriously goes into the gay thread to bitch and moan about how no one likes him? Begging for sympathy on a forum, jesus christ what a loser :lol

I posted about it before. He already knows from the snide comments that people don't seem to like him.

Christopher and him coming into the gay thread (with Huelen) is part of the reason why I stopped checking in there. Huelen seems to have left (thank god) along with Christopher (most of the gay men stopped fauwning over him finally? They never had a chance with his straight ass), which just leaves Ter.  :-\

Himu

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Has Christopher came out yet?

Also MGS1 is a classic.
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thisismyusername

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Has Christopher came out yet?

Is there hints on him? Because I haven't even gotten any pings on him outside of him begging for attention in the gay thread.

Kara

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The story of metal gear is one man's struggle to become a film director only to have to settle for appeasing neckbeards into video games.

I think they're alright, but it has gotten to be too much for me.

Did you play Twin Snakes?

brob

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twin snakes cut-scenes :rejoice

actual film director Kitamura-san, who knows good cornball action :bow2

bluemax

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MGS is like OoT, it did a lot of important things that shaped the future of gaming but I wouldn't require anyone but a historian or future game designer to actually have to slow through it at this point in history.
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Kara

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twin snakes cut-scenes :rejoice

actual film director Kitamura-san, who knows good cornball action :bow2

Solid Snake doing backflips off missiles in flight. :preach

Himu

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MGS is like OoT, it did a lot of important things that shaped the future of gaming but I wouldn't require anyone but a historian or future game designer to actually have to slow through it at this point in history.

I don't get stuff like this. OoT and MGS are both great games. I don't understand gamers fascination with the future or the present. Not saying that the past is worth always worshiping, because it's not, but the whole "old games aren't worth playing" thing, even in regards to a game as tightly woven and designed as OoT, just makes me question most people who play games. I realize that in a hobby that is fueled by tech, "newer is better" is a huge part of it, but it gets out of hand in regards to games. Music, funnilly, has the opposite problem. "Remember when music was about the music, MANNNNNNNNNNNN?" No, because music has always been about money, and there's plenty of great music out there today, just like how there were and are still wonderful games of yesterday still worth playing.

Yes, it takes a while to get used to the controls; yes, it's not as polished as what'd you get today. But today's games are polished to the point where they often feel homogenous, and most games all control the same now without their own identities. Ocarina of Time's Forest, Shadow, and Spirit Temple are much better designed than any action-adventure game that is likely to come out this year. People are falling over their faces for Fallout 4, but will it have more than two ways to play the game, good writing, have more than corny black and white Good Boyscout and Evil To The Point of Stupidity option? Doubt it. There's been zero evidence to suggest Fallout 4 will be approachingly nearly as good as Fallout New Vegas, but gamers don't give a shit. Now, now, now.

I don't get it.
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ZephyrFate

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The recent LP of breaking Ocarina of Time wide open on SA proved to me that the game is timeless. And also hilarious.

mormapope

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My problem with OOT is people ranking it above every other 3D Zelda due to its legacy. Majora's Mask has a much more interesting narrative and world, along with challenging dungeons. Windwaker has an awesome world to explore. Even though its mostly a empty ocean, the feeling of seeing something far in the distance and going to it is unmatched in the franchise. The entire game is a whimsical adventure.

Twilight Princess gets way too much shit. The best Hyrule to date when it comes to scale and awe factor. Tons of moments where I was blown away by the environment and scenery. Midna is the best companion in the series. The first hour is indeed terrible and the wolf sections feel like fluff, but it was the most solid and well rounded Zelda game to date. Haven't touched Skyward Sword, but the art style turns me off. The newest Zelda looks like hot garbage, conceptually and visually.


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studyguy

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Alundra is the best Zelda game.
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Himu

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I agree with that. Majora's Mask is my favorite Zelda ever, but to be fair, OoT's rep has kinda been deserved and MM would always live in its shadow even if it were a shit game. TP gets shit but it's still a deeply flawed game despite whatever good it does.

Wind Waker is the weak link for me. I like exploring the ocean, but other than that, regarding things that make Zelda games GOOD, it's not very good at all. Also, there's a huge online component who unironically think WW is the GOAT Zelda (SantaC).
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mormapope

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Twilight Princess does have the GOAT Zelda soundtrack though, and the best lake Hylia.





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Himu

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Lake Hylia is incredible. Anyways, it just sucks when your favorite games are old and people just can't get into them. I'm going to rue the day when Resident Evil 4 is considered "aged".
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Never played a Zelda for more than 10 minutes or so outside of LttP  :yeshrug

ocarina is the best. best story, best characters, best world, best pacing, best dungeons, etc. wind waker stans fall back

Kara

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mormapope

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Everything he's bitching about was in Dark Souls 1, and yet he's ready to tongue Miyazaki's ass like it leaks pepperoni pizza.

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StealthFan

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I got the 3ds remake of OoT from Gamefly today. Thinking about actually playing it.
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Purrp Skirrp

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Ocarina was truly amazing in 98 for a 7 year old, watching that intro screen when the ocarina kicks in :gladbron



Nonchalantly scaling the innards of the Deku tree and getting jump scared by a goddamn swinging skulltula :lawd


Never beat it then, it was too complex for me at that age so I watched a lot of it get played by my friend's older brother.

Emulated it a year ago and went through it all. So for the first time actually playing through it I felt it held up.

For comparison, I got bored with Wind Waker HD in the first hour and gave up, and never played TP or SS.

Majora's Mask was on another level with that atmosphere and mood. Pretty ballsy follow up by Nintendo.


I have no nostalgia or memories for FF7, a game for which I imagine a lot of you was defining like my Ocarina moment.

An OoT remake would probably cause me to react similarly to how people lost it with the Shenmue/FF7 annoucements, spergasms and all.
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StealthFan

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Playing OoT and FFVII for the first time :mouf

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Olivia Wilde Homo

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*Long post on the state of NeoGAF today*

The primary purpose of NeoGAF is for Evilore to have enough money to get beejers from failed and aging models while looking out of his Austin highrise aka living the dream
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Phoenix Dark

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OOT :rejoice

one of the few games that took me away from Brood War.
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Purrp Skirrp

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Does FF7 hold up or is it a 'had to be there' moment in gaming?

I wonder if I play the remake, is it going to be a good ass game without the nostalgia or the holy shit factor of FMVs/CD based graphics?

Wish games didn't get dated so quickly compared to other mediums. At the same time, it's a catch-22 with the industry's emphasis on evolving technology, because it ideally leads to new/better experiences (besides WOW GRAPHIX).

The price of progress :yeshrug

thisismyusername

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*Long post on the state of NeoGAF today*

The primary purpose of NeoGAF is for Evilore to have enough money to get beejers from failed and aging models while looking out of his Austin highrise aka living the dream

Living in Austin isn't living the dream... :kobeyuck

Stoney Mason

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Does FF7 hold up or is it a 'had to be there' moment in gaming?

I wonder if I play the remake, is it going to be a good ass game without the nostalgia or the holy shit factor of FMVs/CD based graphics?

Wish games didn't get dated so quickly compared to other mediums. At the same time, it's a catch-22 with the industry's emphasis on evolving technology, because it ideally leads to new/better experiences (besides WOW GRAPHIX).

The price of progress :yeshrug

FF7 is "important" because that's the direction things went with that series in particular and a lot of big budget rpgs went that way in the years after and it was so huge for the playstation brand but yeah its not my favorite final fantasy and that's coming from someone who has mostly only played the new breed from 7 on. I think its a good game. But its not best rpg ever even back then. It was omg most big budget rpg ever! I think that is more its legacy than the quality of the game. It's also hugely nostalgic for so many because it was their first jrpg and the playstation brand was exploding at the time. There were so many commericals for it back in the day. 

So I understand all the hoopla. But yeah, I think there is some you had to be there at that time quality to it. Of course somebody who is more in love with it may be able to make a stronger case than me about why it is an important game.
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ff7 still holds up except for the shitty controls and party management. the battles are still fine.

Kara

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It's a 16 bit RPG with 32 bit graphics but without the too much 16 bit RPG stuff (Final Fantasy IX).

It goes down pretty easy and has some memorable moments, wouldn't skip.

bluemax

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MGS is like OoT, it did a lot of important things that shaped the future of gaming but I wouldn't require anyone but a historian or future game designer to actually have to slow through it at this point in history.

I don't get stuff like this. OoT and MGS are both great games. I don't understand gamers fascination with the future or the present. Not saying that the past is worth always worshiping, because it's not, but the whole "old games aren't worth playing" thing, even in regards to a game as tightly woven and designed as OoT, just makes me question most people who play games. I realize that in a hobby that is fueled by tech, "newer is better" is a huge part of it, but it gets out of hand in regards to games. Music, funnilly, has the opposite problem. "Remember when music was about the music, MANNNNNNNNNNNN?" No, because music has always been about money, and there's plenty of great music out there today, just like how there were and are still wonderful games of yesterday still worth playing.

Yes, it takes a while to get used to the controls; yes, it's not as polished as what'd you get today. But today's games are polished to the point where they often feel homogenous, and most games all control the same now without their own identities. Ocarina of Time's Forest, Shadow, and Spirit Temple are much better designed than any action-adventure game that is likely to come out this year. People are falling over their faces for Fallout 4, but will it have more than two ways to play the game, good writing, have more than corny black and white Good Boyscout and Evil To The Point of Stupidity option? Doubt it. There's been zero evidence to suggest Fallout 4 will be approachingly nearly as good as Fallout New Vegas, but gamers don't give a shit. Now, now, now.

I don't get it.

Because both games are ugly as sin, feature antiquated control schemes and have been surpassed in design, polish and tech in every way.

I dunno, I think almost everything from the PS1/N64 and early DC/PS2 era is largely shit to play at this point in time and doesn't really hold up without nostalgia. I feel the same about a lot of PC games from that era too, games like System Shock 1 were AMAZING but last time I tried to play it the wacky ass controls and ugly 3d made me not bother.

ocarina is the best. best story, best characters, best world, best pacing, best dungeons, etc. wind waker stans fall back

The Overworld in OOT is a boring empty circle with all the points of interest on the outside edges. Other than the ranch in the middle of the map there's nothing interesting in Hylia Field that isn't located around the edges. Its so barren.
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Stoney Mason

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Most games once you go about 10 years out up to 20 are almost unplayable to the next generation of gamers. There are exceptions of course but unless the defining characteristic of the game was open and accessible design that wasn't going for pushing the edge on graphics, only the hardcore of the hardcore are going to go back and experience it or those looking for their nostalgia fix

Something like Tetris or Mario are those kind of games. It doesn't diminish the important of those other games that don't fall into that grouping. Or the legacy they left. It's just reality. 

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recursivelyenumerable

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ff7 had/has a bunch of glaring flaws that were obvious even at the time. the game balance is bad, the interface is bad, the sound production is bad, the story is incoherent, the visuals are crude in a lot of ways, basically everything about it is bad and it's not even cohesive either. in spite of all that, ff7 had and still has an undeniable fascination. my sister got hooked on it 10 years later and was into it more than almost any other game I ever saw her play. ff7 just has some weird juju.
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Phoenix Dark

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Kara

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Phoenix Dark

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The fuckery.  :lawd


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thisismyusername

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Everything he's bitching about was in Dark Souls 1, and yet he's ready to tongue Miyazaki's ass like it leaks pepperoni pizza.

That's just GAF in general though.  :-\ Dark Souls 2 isn't terrible. Does it have issues? Yeah but so did Dark Souls and even Demon's.

Does FF7 hold up or is it a 'had to be there' moment in gaming?

I wonder if I play the remake, is it going to be a good ass game without the nostalgia or the holy shit factor of FMVs/CD based graphics?

Wait for the remake. It'll have the same shitty ATB and probably the same shitty story that meanders (OH WAIT FF12 DOES THE SAME THING! SuckItFF12HatersShepard.gif) while making the big bad "SEPHIROTH!" for... reasons... that are never really fully formed nor explained. You'll just be getting it without the N64 level models.

(:umad and all that Shhhh.)

Kara

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http://www.thecoli.com/threads/this-dej-loaf-instagram-video-scared-me-for-a-second.335408/

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Please stop posting gifs summarizing my last relationship. :foxx

Purrp Skirrp

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The final catalyst for your YouTube series on rejection :goty2

Himu

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Does FF7 hold up or is it a 'had to be there' moment in gaming?

I wonder if I play the remake, is it going to be a good ass game without the nostalgia or the holy shit factor of FMVs/CD based graphics?

Wish games didn't get dated so quickly compared to other mediums. At the same time, it's a catch-22 with the industry's emphasis on evolving technology, because it ideally leads to new/better experiences (besides WOW GRAPHIX).

The price of progress :yeshrug

Yes, it still holds up. The art direction of the game is generally fantastic and lively and nice in aesthetic. The models have always been blarg, but they're still charming in their own way, if you're the type that cares more about charm than realism. Story-wise, it doesn't hold up much in the plot area, and never really has, but it still has a lot of ballsy ideas not only for an rpg but a game of that time period that would take a lot of courage to release today, from bombing power plants to some of the humor and general wackiness. Sometimes the general direction of the game is also just fantastic, and I think that includes the entire Midgar chapter of the game. It just isn't something that would be made today, for better AND worse. For that reason alone I highly suggest playing it at least because it's still at its heart a fun game, that does a lot right in spite of its flaws.

Plus, can you really say no to this?






No, you can't. FFVII was my first rpg and FF, so my emotions are definitely colored a bit by it, but I don't think that changes anything I've said.
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ZephyrFate

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Will always say that I would love a jRPG that was just FFVII's Midgar section, stretched out to a whole game. Super dystopic, still keeping with that environmental terrorism aspect, and kinda depressing throughout. I agree that FF7 had some decisions that would never be made today. Really boundary-pushing shit.

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lttp is the best. best story, best characters, best world, best pacing, best dungeons, etc. ocarina stans fall back
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Shadow Mod

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OoT fuckin' rules, even the dumbass shit where you gotta kill all those gold skulltulas for some fam because one of their parents fucked a spider.

thisismyusername

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Now now before I forget and I should've edited this in, I'm not saying FF7 is terrible (IMO it is) it's actually rather decent for a JRPG of that era. But FF7 people that put it on some godly pedestal have some serious blinders on if they think it's story/gameplay systems are above all the other FF's, especially 12's. 12 is probably the first FF to actually "automate" the ATB which was mind numbing since it's introduction in FF4. "But that means it's playing it--" No, it means it's actually doing a lot of the shit you were doing before just faster. Might as well automate that process.

"But FF12's story meanders and--" Just like FF7, 8? FF6's? Half of Final Fantasy never have a good beginning to end story arc. They generally get a "big bad" in the middle that comes out of left field.

Now FF13 haters, I can see where they're coming from on that one. Top to bottom level of bad that has some mind boggling baffling game design decisions that never should've left Square's development house.

Anyway, with the remake coming out in possibly a year or two it's farrr better off to wait and get the improved graphics (and maybe better translation? :teehee ) than deal with the dated graphics of FF7 and it's poor translation.

Himu

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After SE's Cumpilation of FFVII are there even people with VII blinders anymore? You sound like its 2002. It ain't. VII is critiqued all over the internets more than it is praised now.
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Kara

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For a birthday party some so-called friends of mine got me really drunk and we watched Advent Children (subbed). I passed out in a chair and not one person drew a penis on my face.

All of those people are parents now, BTW.

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For a birthday party some so-called friends of mine got me really drunk and we watched Advent Children (subbed). I passed out in a chair and not one person drew a penis on my face.

All of those people are parents now, BTW.

When will you begin breeding you think?

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=171446594&postcount=8937

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To be fair he's right, game sucks ass and was made by FROM's D-team

Do we really have to do this "A-Team/B-Team" stuff? If FROM made a suck game (Which they have done plenty of times in the past) then you can still blame FROM in general. As with every other developer.

I don't care what alpha-numerical Platinum Team is doing the new Transformers. Shit looks fucking dope like a Platinum game should.

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=171446594&postcount=8937

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To be fair he's right, game sucks ass and was made by FROM's D-team

Do we really have to do this "A-Team/B-Team" stuff? If FROM made a suck game (Which they have done plenty of times in the past) then you can still blame FROM in general. As with every other developer.

I don't care what alpha-numerical Platinum Team is doing the new Transformers. Shit looks fucking dope like a Platinum game should.

The A/B team meme started because Sony stans wanted to prop up Bloodborne due to Myazaki directing.

El Babua

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It started before Bloodborne was announced actually. Just doubled up after the announcement.

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=171446594&postcount=8937

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Can't really spot a lie outside of the obvious anger. The souls series is just absolutely not fun, and the people that think it's fun are masochists. Most games have a lull between bouts of bullshit, but the souls series is just strictly bullshit the whole game with no reward in between. And the people that have time to be good at the games have nothing else in life going on because any person with a full time job and even a partially active social life will not want to waste hours on a game and barely progress.

But I suppose both of those things might be in short supply for the typical Gaffer.

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http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=171490460

Some effete artsy type is gonna bang this dude's gf, and all he can do is watch. Cucks4lyf
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girl breaks up with you because she's having a 25-year-old crisis
decides to pose nude one day
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will very likely be breaking up with you again in the future

Olivia Wilde Homo

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That's the best part about the "how do I real life" GAF threads: the unraveling of the backstory where you find that the insignificant issue they're whining about is the least of their problems
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