Author Topic: Mike Brown shooting thread - No indictment! Get out and protest! (Read 184648 times)

helios · « **Reply #241 on:** August 12, 2014, 11:13:28 PM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=125120591&postcount=105

benjipwns · « **Reply #242 on:** August 13, 2014, 02:29:19 AM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #243 on:** August 13, 2014, 02:30:24 AM »

He's throwing back a tear gas canister fired by police, not a molotov or anything, while holding his chips and displaying his country's flag.

Your Stalker · « **Reply #244 on:** August 13, 2014, 02:37:53 AM »

https://twitter.com/jyoungs1/statuses/499425936295874560

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #245 on:** August 13, 2014, 02:39:12 AM »

Quote from: lennedsay on August 12, 2014, 09:29:19 PM

I heard the same for the cable. No tv or internet during the times of rioting and protesting. Cable company flat out told my coworker, "Look, we're not supposed to tell you guys, but we were told we had to cut communications due to the events in your neighborhood."

Is this real life in America?

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #246 on:** August 13, 2014, 03:14:30 AM »

https://twitter.com/TomMLemon/statuses/499445300868550656

scanners confirm at least second shooting

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #247 on:** August 13, 2014, 04:43:25 AM »

uhoh

(will supposedly be released at 6-8am PST)

Positive Touch · « **Reply #248 on:** August 13, 2014, 07:11:16 AM »

well last night it looks like one of my worst nightmares came true. fuck fuck fuck I don't even know what to do know I wish I could call into work.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #249 on:** August 13, 2014, 07:19:08 AM »

Call in sick and then show up and start looting where you work.

Himu · « **Reply #250 on:** August 13, 2014, 07:29:16 AM »

Quote from: ZephyrFate on August 13, 2014, 03:14:30 AM

https://twitter.com/TomMLemon/statuses/499445300868550656

scanners confirm at least second shooting

holy crap

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #251 on:** August 13, 2014, 07:39:22 AM »

Was the anonymous list of officers released? Seeing a couple of people, who are pro Mike, crying on Facebook over alledly having innocent family members ("w/ kids and expecting wives" etc.) being on the alleged list.

Makes me uncomfortable, tbh.

benjipwns · « **Reply #252 on:** August 13, 2014, 07:42:49 AM »

Yeah, and some officers houses were reported on fire but unconfirmed.

They're going to release the tape of Brown's shooting sometime soon.

Himu · « **Reply #253 on:** August 13, 2014, 07:49:53 AM »

I used to scoff at Anon. But now I'm all

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #254 on:** August 13, 2014, 07:56:32 AM »

Quote from: Shaka Khan on August 13, 2014, 07:39:22 AM

Was the anonymous list of officers released? Seeing a couple of people, who are pro Mike, crying on Facebook over alledly having innocent family members ("w/ kids and expecting wives" etc.) being on the alleged list.

Makes me uncomfortable, tbh.

Its really on the police chief for not handling this well at all.

If he really wants to stop this shit he needs to arrest the cop on suspicion of murder and be done with it. Then let the judge etc worry about it.

If the cop is innocent this will be proven in the court of law not some private police investigation no one trusts anyway.

benjipwns · « **Reply #255 on:** August 13, 2014, 08:01:42 AM »

Some police refer to their internal investigation based on the union agreement as their "due process" and that a trial is basically double jeopardy.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #256 on:** August 13, 2014, 08:14:39 AM »

I don't think the union is his biggest worry now.

Sure he has a deal with them, but the police also has a social contract with the people, which when broken can result in things like this.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #257 on:** August 13, 2014, 08:20:36 AM »

I was indifferent about them pressing the chief with his personal info/pics and proving he's a racist schmuck, but involving everyone's families and shrugging it as the chief's sole responsibility —while exempting anon— is straight up comic book villany/terrorism.

Two wrongs don't make a right, etc.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #258 on:** August 13, 2014, 08:31:24 AM »

Of course it's horrible, chief can put an end to it though any minute, but he won't because while horrible this plays right into his little racist hand by detracting from the real issue.

Did you unfriend that idiot on fb yet shaka?

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #259 on:** August 13, 2014, 08:36:14 AM »

Not that it's anyone's business, but I handled it.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #260 on:** August 13, 2014, 08:38:25 AM »

Well I'm curious since you said you are friends and you posted it here for us to see.

Anyhoo the chief is the one putting peoples life at risk here, innocent officers that have nothing to do with the shooting are now on the streets trying to stop innocent angry people. All for what exactly?

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #261 on:** August 13, 2014, 08:45:41 AM »

The poor handling of the shooting, protesting, rioting, patrolling, militarizing the police, and the direct consequences of all that can be pinned on the chief.

But he did not release a list of names and addresses for all the angry people to see. That's not on him, that's all on anon. Let's keep our heads clear and not shift any of the responsibility. Regardless of whether this has a positive or negative outcome.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #262 on:** August 13, 2014, 08:52:06 AM »

It's an act of desperation because the people/anon have no other means to put pressure on the police here.

If anon felt the case was handled normally they wouldn't have released the list. They don't have riot gear and rifles to fight back, they have information.

It's a dick move for sure and I don't agree with it.

benjipwns · « **Reply #263 on:** August 13, 2014, 08:54:39 AM »

I think police officers names are public information, though anon did compile it and I assume added addresses.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #264 on:** August 13, 2014, 08:54:53 AM »

I acknowledge and understand how these things develop. But the responsibilities remain the same— if anyone is harmed by this, it's on anon and whoever carries the harm out.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #265 on:** August 13, 2014, 08:58:52 AM »

Well yeah, lashing out at family etc is low, and the people that do this should go away for a long time.

But morally the responsibility will always rest with the man in command of this disaster, he will take full responsibility in the end, also professionally.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #266 on:** August 13, 2014, 09:18:51 AM »

I was mostly concerned with how people respond to and morally justify anon's actions. I personally find it worrying. And I say this while being fully aware I might see this differently if I was more involved and desperate.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #267 on:** August 13, 2014, 09:25:24 AM »

It's scary because you can see a lynch mob mentality and situation happening before your eyes and you realize how civilization is just a thin veneer on our society.

I'm sorry if you guys find this cornball, but I consider this a fact.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #268 on:** August 13, 2014, 09:49:18 AM »

Here is the moral justification for anon's actions: If the public is going to let it's government commit atrocities without repercussions, they will never stop. So if you are a public servant and commit a heinous act, expect one to be committed against you. Why should the public or a group of oppressed people always have to take the high road?

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #269 on:** August 13, 2014, 10:12:13 AM »

"So if you are a public servant and commit a heinous act, expect one to be committed against you."

And therein lies the issue— the people on the list (and their families) are largely collateral rather than perpetrators. Not to metion, should I trust a group such as anon with deciding and passing such judgments?

I also have to admit this type of justification and language is getting eerily closer to terrorist group PRs that we are routinely exposed to around here.

(Apologies for taking the discussion on a distracting mortality tangent. I'm stopping now)

Eric P · « **Reply #270 on:** August 13, 2014, 10:26:57 AM »

https://medium.com/@byroncrawford/d5f701cd722
Byron Crawford's piece is really damn good.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #271 on:** August 13, 2014, 10:44:12 AM »

Quote from: Shaka

And therein lies the issue— the people on the list are largely collateral rather than perpetrators. Not to metion, should I trust a group such as anon with deciding and passing such judgments?

Anon is only doing what the police dept. is, at this point, refusing to do. Anon doesn't even have a place in the conversation if police were doing the right thing.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #272 on:** August 13, 2014, 10:50:16 AM »

Meh, perhaps their families deserve to feel an ounce of the terror this kid's family is feeling. Is it a dick move by anon? Yeah. Do I care? Not really. Nothing is going to happen to them.

Eric P · « **Reply #273 on:** August 13, 2014, 10:52:44 AM »

Quote from: Esch on August 13, 2014, 10:35:11 AM

edit: @ the Alex Jones stanning, though.

i think (read: hope like hell) it's just shtick / lulz / traffic bringer rather than an actual enjoyment

Your Stalker · « **Reply #274 on:** August 13, 2014, 11:10:14 AM »

http://instagram.com/p/rpC6IBF77K

benjipwns · « **Reply #275 on:** August 13, 2014, 12:03:24 PM »

Quote from: Your Stalker on August 13, 2014, 11:10:14 AM

http://instagram.com/p/rpC6IBF77K

benjipwns · « **Reply #276 on:** August 13, 2014, 12:24:22 PM »

CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #277 on:** August 13, 2014, 12:55:21 PM »

Right to assemble (when it's sunny)

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #278 on:** August 13, 2014, 01:33:35 PM »

My favorite coffee shop in the city:

They had their Faring Purth mural vandalized and store front bricked ten days ago but instead of bitching they replaced it with this:

Hipsters.

Your Stalker · « **Reply #279 on:** August 13, 2014, 03:07:57 PM »

So was anonymous selling wolf tickets again?

Rufus · « **Reply #280 on:** August 13, 2014, 03:12:00 PM »

He's asking for receipts*, right? 98% sure.

*what a fuck-ugly word, btw

CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #281 on:** August 13, 2014, 03:15:56 PM »

Quote from: Esch on August 13, 2014, 03:09:39 PM

Quote from: Your Stalker on August 13, 2014, 03:07:57 PM
So was anonymous selling wolf tickets again?

assume everyone understands coli terminology, brehs

That term has a Wikipedia entry, probably not a coli exclusive.

Wait a second. Coli. E. Coli. Escherichia coli ...

Himu · « **Reply #282 on:** August 13, 2014, 03:41:07 PM »

Quote from: Esch on August 13, 2014, 11:03:45 AM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 13, 2014, 10:50:16 AM
Meh, perhaps their families deserve to feel an ounce of the terror this kid's family is feeling

Maybe you meant,the officers deserve it.

The officers aren't innocent. They are. PD's post is correct.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #283 on:** August 13, 2014, 03:51:50 PM »

Considering the point we were discussing was families being at risk after the release of the addresses, it wasn't a smartly timed analogy or a relevant reply.

Himu · « **Reply #284 on:** August 13, 2014, 04:10:25 PM »

Considering the police have decided to abandon the social contract, all bets are off.

The police have executed an innocent child, while his hands were in the air. In daylight. In public. While the police who did this are sitting at home all snug? Naw.

I don't agree with it, because it's lacking in compassion, but PD's completely right. The police rue what they sow. If they execute children in broad daylight, they and their families must accept their own consequences.

Himu · « **Reply #285 on:** August 13, 2014, 04:24:28 PM »

You know what I mean.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #286 on:** August 13, 2014, 04:33:55 PM »

Quote from: Esch on August 13, 2014, 04:32:03 PM

I guess if you want the situation to escalate, it's pretty straight.

This gets right to the heart of anonymous. Do they want justice? Maybe, but really there's a good contingent that would rather see the whole thing spiral out of control.

Himu · « **Reply #287 on:** August 13, 2014, 04:36:11 PM »

"Considering the police have decided to abandon the social contract, all bets are off. "

This literally means that because the police have decided to do whatever they want, from the murder, to the handling of the aftermath, to the APCs (no boogie

). For this reason, under no circumstances should expect people to play on the same footing as before. Because again, they have broken the social contract. They have incited all of this behavior by their own action and non-action.

etiolate · « **Reply #288 on:** August 13, 2014, 04:39:35 PM »

The police broke the contract. Not their families.

Himu · « **Reply #289 on:** August 13, 2014, 04:40:57 PM »

That's what happens when you refuse to do anything. That too, is on the police.

It'll only be worse when the video of the shooting is posted online.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #290 on:** August 13, 2014, 04:41:55 PM »

Given that nothing is going to happen to them/they're well protected, I couldn't care less.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #291 on:** August 13, 2014, 04:43:17 PM »

The cop will be on Hannity any day now.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #292 on:** August 13, 2014, 04:45:23 PM »

Himu going Lord of the Flies up in this shit.

Your Stalker · « **Reply #293 on:** August 13, 2014, 04:47:13 PM »

http://instagram.com/p/rpgfpvIXtY/
http://instagram.com/p/rpf21XoXsS
http://instagram.com/p/rnvef8oXiP
http://instagram.com/p/rnuvCKoXg-

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #294 on:** August 13, 2014, 04:48:42 PM »

There is no coverage if this here, whats the latest news?

Himu · « **Reply #295 on:** August 13, 2014, 04:49:29 PM »

Oh shit.

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #296 on:** August 13, 2014, 04:49:51 PM »

Ferguson dispatch tapes

Mike Brown shooting claimed as "crowd control", no EMS was called, body was on the ground for 4 hours.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #297 on:** August 13, 2014, 04:55:58 PM »

Quote from: Your Stalker on August 13, 2014, 04:47:13 PM

http://instagram.com/p/rpgfpvIXtY/
http://instagram.com/p/rpf21XoXsS
(Image removed from quote.)

Looks like a bunch of random crusties there to start shit to me.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #298 on:** August 13, 2014, 05:01:14 PM »

False flag operation incoming, STL-bore, bail the fuck out!

Himu · « **Reply #299 on:** August 13, 2014, 05:01:43 PM »

Quote from: Esch on August 13, 2014, 04:49:32 PM

Perfect. Note that Shaka already perfectly outlined how Anon ' s managed to rile up the families and officers in the area with their threat. Surely escalating tensions won't lead to more trigger happy cops and more violence and people in body bags, right? Ferguson bodies.

Fucking Nas stans

1. I didn't say that things should escalate.

2. The police's non-action is why things are escalating, because people are now trying to take things into their own hands.

3. The police has given us literally zero information. Anon is giving us information. Again, on the cops.

4. Fuck off.

News:

Author Topic: Mike Brown shooting thread - No indictment! Get out and protest! (Read 184648 times)