Mike Brown shooting thread - No indictment! Get out and protest!

[Great Rumbler]

Say, what's the governor doing today to get this situation under-

In unanimous vote, Springfield School Board urges #moleg to let my #FridayFavors vetoes stand

Meeting w/ talented young people in @Missouri4h & @MissouriFFA. In their hands, the future of ag looks very bright

Touring the new Joplin High w/ @CJHuffJoplin. High-tech building where students will learn high-tech skills

Oh.

[ZephyrFate]

I was tempted to make this my profile picture, but I'm way too white to own the truth of this.

[Himu]

Ferguson? What Ferguson?

[benjipwns]

Say, what's the governor doing today to get this situation under-

In unanimous vote, Springfield School Board urges #moleg to let my #FridayFavors vetoes stand

Meeting w/ talented young people in @Missouri4h & @MissouriFFA. In their hands, the future of ag looks very bright

Touring the new Joplin High w/ @CJHuffJoplin. High-tech building where students will learn high-tech skills

Oh.

Give the poor guy a break, he had a rough start to his day:

A large crowd is anticipated tomorrow at the Missouri State Fair as several events and promotions will attract diverse interests. The day will begin at 8 a.m. with the 62nd Annual Missouri Governor’s Ham Breakfast, followed by the First Lady’s Pie Contest at 10 a.m. Free gate admission for women this day will be offered, as well as a free trade show sponsored by the Missouri Travel Council. The day will conclude with the concert, An Evening with MercyMe, in the Pepsi Grandstand.

“The Governor’s Ham Breakfast is a long-standing Fair tradition with guests coming together to celebrate the excellence of our Missouri agriculture,” Missouri State Fair Director Mark Wolfe said.

Governor Nixon will be the keynote speaker at the Breakfast, which will begin at 8 a.m. in the Director’s Tent. Tickets are $25 and include general admission to the Fair this day. Tickets can be purchased at the Missouri State Fair Box Office, which is open 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. daily. Tickets will also be available for purchase at the Breakfast, while supplies last.

The Breakfast will include an auction of the Grand Champion Ham, Reserve Grand Champion Ham, Grand Champion Slab of Bacon and a limited edition commemorative belt buckle. Proceeds from the Breakfast and auction will be used to perpetuate projects at the Missouri State Fair, including scholarships for youth involved in agriculture.

[Himu]

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I was tempted to make this my profile picture, but I'm way too white to own the truth of this.

I'ma do that shit, bb.

[helios]

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I was tempted to make this my profile picture, but I'm way too white to own the truth of this.

I'ma do that shit, bb.

Me, too.

[Great Rumbler]

From one of the local reporters:

"We're dealing with 4,000 animals in there, & you want to give me attitude?" The deputy yelled, mad I was taking a pic #Ferguson #MikeBrown

 

[helios]

[Himu]

From one of the local reporters:

"We're dealing with 4,000 animals in there, & you want to give me attitude?" The deputy yelled, mad I was taking a pic #Ferguson #MikeBrown

 

They have 4000 police?

[SpeedStats]

Wesley Lowery's piece on what happened today: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-ferguson-washington-post-reporter-wesley-lowery-gives-account-of-his-arrest/2014/08/13/0fe25c0e-2359-11e4-86ca-6f03cbd15c1a_story.html

The police led us outside to a police van. Inside, there was a large man sitting on the floor between the two benches. He began screaming: “I can’t breathe! Call a paramedic! Call a paramedic!”

Ryan and I asked the officers if they intended to help the man. They said he was fine. The screaming went on for the 10 to 15 minutes we stood outside the van.

“I’m going to die!” he screamed. “I’m going to die! I can’t breathe! I’m going to die!”

Eventually a police car arrived. A woman — with a collar identifying her as a member of the clergy — sat in the back. Ryan and I crammed in next to her, and we took the three-minute ride to the Ferguson Police Department. The woman sang hymns throughout the ride.

Throughout this time, we asked the officers for badge numbers. We asked to speak to a supervising officer. We asked why we were being detained. We were told: trespassing in a McDonald’s.

“I hope you’re happy with yourself,” one officer told me. And I responded: “This story’s going to get out there. It’s going to be on the front page of The Washington Post tomorrow.”

And he said, “Yeah, well, you’re going to be in my jail cell tonight.”

As Himu said, it's really shitty that Mike Brown's death and the reason why people in Ferguson want answers is getting overshadowed by what happened to the journalists today.   

But this is also some bullshit too.

[Himu]

Fuck this, I'm gonna see if there's a way to protest tomorrow. I need to help these people as much as I can. If I have to sit in downtown Houston with a goddamn sign looking like a dumbass, I'm going to do it. I don't give one FUCK.

[recursivelyenumerable]

someone spray-painted "kill all the white people" on a sign. in downtown Bellevue 

[helios]

Ryan Reilly is back on MSNBC

[helios]

Scary as fuck

[Himu]

WHAT SHOULD MY SIGN SAY?

[Phoenix Dark]

I went to Ron Paul's websites to see if he had anything up about Ferguson.

I feel you all tricked me into this.

[benjipwns]

someone spray-painted "kill all the white people" on a sign. in downtown Bellevue 

Steve Ballmer celebrating his Clippers purchase already.

[Kara]

WHAT SHOULD MY SIGN SAY?

Something about the coverage of reporters instead of the shooting imo.

[benjipwns]

WHAT SHOULD MY SIGN SAY?

THE DAY FREEDOM OF THE PRESS DIED

[helios]

WHAT SHOULD MY SIGN SAY?

Hands Up, Don't Shoot

[Himu]

WHAT SHOULD MY SIGN SAY?

Hands Up, Don't Shoot

I'm going to sing it to Bob Marley's Get Up, Stand Up

[Phoenix Dark]

WHAT SHOULD MY SIGN SAY?

Do You Believe In Ghosts

[Himu]

[Mr. Gundam]

someone spray-painted "kill all the white people" on a sign. in downtown Bellevue 

You should kill yourself if you willingly live in Bellevue.

[benjipwns]

Crisis over:

Governor Jay Nixon @GovJayNixon

Canceling all appearances at the @MoStateFair to visit North #STL County tomorrow. Statement to follow.

Leadership. 

[ZephyrFate]

Wow PS4 graphics are getting insane

[Himu]

[Himu]

Those of you who want to join a moment of silence/protest, here's a list by state:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y6bRJfwVL7JoJnxH8BN8O1p1ANXPEl5PjNMoELw54ME/preview?sle=true

Go to your local MoS!

[Phoenix Dark]

https://twitter.com/JasonKander/status/499766059667566592

[Beezy]

I'm so fucking tired.

[ZephyrFate]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-ferguson-washington-post-reporter-wesley-lowery-gives-account-of-his-arrest/2014/08/13/0fe25c0e-2359-11e4-86ca-6f03cbd15c1a_story.html?Post+generic=%3Ftid%3Dsm_twitter_washingtonpost

police state

[Himu]

Antonio French arrested.

[Himu]

I'm so fucking tired.

Don't be tired. this should rejuvenate your soul. GO TO THE MOMENT OF SILENCE/PROTEST TOMORROW AND LET THEM NICCA'S KNOW.

[Mr. Gundam]

Total police state. Suburban police department way too eager to utilize military grade force.

And I know it's "stupid librulz, hur hur," but Maddow did a nice contrast between this situation and how police responded in the Cliven Bundy situation.

[Phoenix Dark]

To be fair, Bundy's gang wasn't burning crops or looting other lots. I don't mean to sound crass but this isn't exactly a 1:1 comparison.

[Himu]

Maddow has been doing GREAT coverage of this tonight. msnbc covered this all damn night.

[Mr. Gundam]

Fair, but they had sniper rifles with their sights on cops.

Looting is always stupid and makes you look bad.

[Phoenix Dark]

Fair, but they had sniper rifles with their sights on cops.

This is true. And they were pretty damn open about it, it wasn't a secret.

[thisismyusername]

https://twitter.com/edyong209/status/499711495358656513



Thanks to William Gibson for retweeting that. 

[Himu]

That's my LGBT people

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/lgbt_organizations_issue_joint_statement_in_support_of_michael_brown_s_family

[Joe Molotov]

Benji what do your fellow libertarians think about this? Haven't seen Ted Cruz or Rand Paul speak on this.

where are the conservatives who feared military/government takeover?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2014/08/13/why-arent-libertarians-talking-about-ferguson/?tid=trending_strip_4

You can find articles about Ferguson on the website of Reason, the libertarian magazine. But the politicians and conservative media figures who claim to be the most fervent advocates of individual freedom and to care the most about misuse of government power have been silent. One might be tempted to conclude they believe that when somebody’s grandson has to pay taxes on their inheritance, it’s a horrifying injustice that demands redress, but when somebody else’s grandson gets shot walking down the street, that’s just how things go sometimes.

[recursivelyenumerable]

someone spray-painted "kill all the white people" on a sign. in downtown Bellevue 

You should kill yourself if you willingly live in Bellevue.

does "because I'm too lazy to move" count as "willingly"?

i have noticed more black folk in Bellevue lately. like i'm in starbucks right now and apart from the pawg baristas the customers are majority black. maybe by the time i finally do move it will constitute an instance of white flight.

[Van Cruncheon]

Why aren’t libertarians talking about Ferguson?

easy answer: because doing so impinges on their right to be totally, authentically racist

[Kara]

One might be tempted to conclude they believe that when somebody’s grandson has to pay taxes on their inheritance, it’s a horrifying injustice that demands redress, but when somebody else’s grandson gets shot walking down the street, that’s just how things go sometimes.

Just for reference, the current estate tax exclusion is 5.25 million dollars. That means 5.25 million dollars of your taxable estate (you have a gross estate and a taxable estate for tax purposes) isn't taxable.

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Technically you get a credit equal to the amount of estate tax assessed so your tax liability is 0, but this is not really a relevant distinction for Bore purposes.

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[Van Cruncheon]

someone spray-painted "kill all the white people" on a sign. in downtown Bellevue 

You should kill yourself if you willingly live in Bellevue.

does "because I'm too lazy to move" count as "willingly"?

i have noticed more black folk in Bellevue lately. like i'm in starbucks right now and apart from the pawg baristas the customers are majority black. maybe by the time i finally do move it will constitute an instance of white flight.

woodinville is the new bellevue

[helios]

A small town of 21k and a police force of exactly 53 officers needs a mine-resistant vehicle

[Joe Molotov]

Why aren’t libertarians talking about Ferguson?

easy answer: because doing so impinges on their right to be totally, authentically racist

I wanna see someone frame this as a state's rights issue.

[benjipwns]

Why aren’t libertarians talking about Ferguson?

"And by libertarians we mean Rand Paul and John Stossel. Also conservatives because that's the same right? And reason, which is talking about it but ignore that for now."

[Joe Molotov]

Why aren’t libertarians talking about Ferguson?

"And by libertarians we mean Rand Paul and John Stossel. Also conservatives because that's the same right? And reason, which is talking about it but ignore that for now."

Look, no one cares about actual Libertarians, benji, we're just trying to talk about what a douchebag Rand Paul is.

[thisismyusername]

A small town of 21k and a police force of exactly 53 officers needs a mine-resistant vehicle

I doubt it's the mine-resistance. More the bullet resistance. Outside of like a M82 Barrett anti-material rifle (which would be illegal in like all states IIRC) these lightly-armored vehicles would stop most bullets that civilians would have against a police/SWAT force. I mean, I kinda doubt you can buy M2 "anti-tank" mines and the like in the US. You'd have to make an IED or something for those purposes.

[Cerveza mas fina]

A small town of 21k and a police force of exactly 53 officers needs a mine-resistant vehicle

Maybe in Ukraine

[benjipwns]

Look, no one cares about actual Libertarians, benji, we're just trying to talk about what a douchebag Rand Paul is.

but Amash is my "actually elected" breh'lady, not Rand... 

[Himu]

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/how-many-rappers-are-going-to-speak-out-about-mike-brown-and-ferguson-mo.239691/

Five star thread

[StealthFan]

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/how-many-rappers-are-going-to-speak-out-about-mike-brown-and-ferguson-mo.239691/

Five star thread

You like antisemitism and homophobia? Damn.

[benjipwns]

"There's a crowd across from the #Ferguson police department. "

Michael Calhoun @michaelcalhoun 5m

[Himu]

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/how-many-rappers-are-going-to-speak-out-about-mike-brown-and-ferguson-mo.239691/

Five star thread

You like antisemitism and homophobia? Damn.

Naw. But if I agree with a posts overall point, I will dap it. More than that, the thread is more than that, if you bothered to read it.

[ZephyrFate]

Stopped reading thread when they started using "queer" as an insult

[benjipwns]

Governor Jay Nixon @GovJayNixon  ·  6m
Situation in Ferguson does not represent who we are. Must keep the peace, while safeguarding rights of citizens and the press

Governor Jay Nixon @GovJayNixon  ·  17m
Closely monitoring situation & will be in North STL Co tomorrow. Ask for calm & urge law enforcement to respect rights of residents & press

[Great Rumbler]

To be fair, Bundy's gang wasn't burning crops or looting other lots. I don't mean to sound crass but this isn't exactly a 1:1 comparison.

Yeah, Bundy and his pals were heavily armed and spoiling for a shootout, so it was a completely different kind of situation.

[benjipwns]

@senka: @AntonioFrench charged with unlawful assembly.

Unlawful assembly
A meeting of three or more individuals to commit a crime or carry out a lawful or unlawful purpose in a manner likely to imperil the peace and tranquillity of the neighborhood.