Mike Brown shooting thread - No indictment! Get out and protest!

[Himu]

Protest that shit, rain or shine. Fuck that governor and fuck that police department. I hope they protest like fuck tonight. Let up rain.

Quelling dissent in America.

Obama's America

[Kara]

Blows my mind too. They were shredding evidence in relation to the NSU. Consequences? None.

IIRC they have so infiltrated some groups (e.g. the NPD) that there can't be grounds to ban these groups as hate groups as the leadership contains undercover officers. Dangerous stuff all around.

I trace this back to the poor denazification in the FRG, but I readily admit that's territory.

[Himu]

@PzFeed
URGENT: Protesters now saying they will not respect the curfew. Police threatening mass arrests. Police already setup multiple checkpoints.

Fuck off police!

Whoever is cuffed tonight because they were protesting past curfew is a damn hero.

[seagrams hotsauce]

I REALLY have no time for racists anymore. don't give a fuck whether or not they understand how terrible they are so no reason to debate them.I'll just laugh or degrade them and keep it moving. they don't deserve respect our kindness, and they'll always be in the way, always have excuses. fuck em. too much important shit going on to worry about assholes.

You don't know how much I agree with this. If it's not a funny joke where I know it's coming from someone who isn't racist, or someone who's just ignorant and not hateful(although that can be an indicator sometimes), I'll write you off and won't deal with you at all.

It's the year 2014, I got no time for your medieval ass.

I've always held to this notion and it baffles me when people act like this is due to a lack of compassion or some bullshit.

Last year I spent too much time arguing with a few friends of mine that the dude we know who frequently drops the n bomb wasn't shit or worthy of their endorsement. I was largely met with 'oh he's a product of his environment,' which is fucking obnoxious. I live in MA, in a town that is almost entirely liberal and this dudes whole persona is  colored southern redneck shit - truckin, beer, guns, the confederate flag, the whole shebang, so even if that 'oh his environment made him a piece of shit so don't blame him' argument held water, it's completely irrelevant.

Somehow I became the asshole for saying 'You know this dude isn't shit because he's a fucking racist right' in so many words. Ugh.



Anyway, Jon Belmar is out on the street, apparently?
http://vine.co/v/M3bjxM9bj3v

[Yeti]

I want the word 'thug' to be stricken from the English lexicon, it might as well be the n-word with the way people are using it now. Also people referring to Mike Brown as a "Gentle Giant" in a sarcastic way can fuck right off, makes me want to keelhaul them.

[Joe Molotov]

This shit, man. 

[Himu]

dellwood and jennings have 10 pm curfews now. They are trying to close up the state. Massive incompetence on display.

[Shadow Mod]

The narrative is happening again...

Thug vs exemplary police officer/guy.

[Himu]

better live stream

YOUTUBE COMMENTS!!!

"Not even going to watch this.   Its americas worst people complaining about something that was bound to happen anyways.   I'm sure you all saw the robbery, and the 'thug' pictures online of Brown.   ...why would anyone in the right state of mind want to support a punk like that?"

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"Yall bitches real tuff on youtube but when yall see black people yall dont say nun of this yall just put yall head down a keep walkin"

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I  bet most black people don’t even know who Kelly Thomas was and don’t give a damn but let me tell you that he was a white homeless man who was brutally beat to death by the police. Does that bother ANY black people? NO. Will any black people stand up, protest and DEMAND answers for the death of an innocent white man? Absolutely not. Why not? Because so many black people can’t see beyond their nose or beyond the color of their own skin. Its as if they were the only people suffering injustices in the world. SERIOUSLY?!!! Take a look around and realize that you’re not the only people suffering! There are innocent men women and children ALL OVER THE WOLRD that have it WAY WORSE than those people in Ferguson. Right now there are christian children being hunted down and beheaded FOR NO REASON. Why aren’t black people rising up and demanding justice for those innocent people? There are thousands of people DIEING because of REAL INJUSTICE! And yet black people are outraged at what happened to Michael Brown?!!!

Think about it this for a moment, have you ever met someone with “short-man syndrome?” People all around him can be treating him nice and never even notice that he is short but HE HIMESELF could be so OVERLY sensitive about his own insecurities that situations can become awkward.

Take it a step further… what if he goes home and his parents tell him “NEVER FORGET that you’re short. Your grandfather was short and was treated like XYZ… Your FATHER was short and dealt with XYZ…  YOU are short and never forget that!” What if he was a part of a group that was constantly reminding him that he was short and pretty much all the issues in life revolve around the PARAMOUNT issue of shortness?!!!!

This is exactly what is happening with blacks today. Every time something goes wrong, its a racist issue. If you want to STOP racism, then stop making it the issue. The more you focus on it, the more you promote it. Besides, there are far GREATER injustices going on in the world today that REQUIRES the attention of the world"

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" White people can all most kill off an entire nation of Native Americans but when blacks stand up for OUR rights we are labeled as looters and criminals?!? Haha the chickens are coming home to roost! We are not drinking the cool-aid anymore! This is it, no more hypocrisy, no more lies we know about Cointelpro, we know about institutionalized white supremacy! The white man is receiving Karma for what he has done around the world from imperialism to colonialism. "

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"I'm reading these comments and it's so sad to see how much racism is in our society... Especially behind a computer screen. "

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[Joe Molotov]

Noooo, stop reading Youtube comments. 

[Steve Youngblood]

I had heard something to this effect earlier, but didn't know if this was known or just some unsubstantiated claim. Apparently, the Justice Department had advised against releasing the robbery video, but Ferguson PD released it anyway:

Yet the renewed protests were apparently triggered by the actions of the authorities, who have been wrestling for days with how to balance public safety with the right of demonstrators to assemble. On Friday, Ferguson police had named Brown as the prime suspect in the robbery of a convenience store that occurred just before the shooting, and they released a video of the robbery. The footage showed someone they identified as Brown towering over the store clerk and menacing the person, images that were circulated nationwide and drew a sharp rebuke from Brown’s family.

The video’s release was criticized by the highway patrol and came over the objections of federal authorities, a law enforcement official told CNN on Saturday. The Justice Department had said that distributing the images would heighten tensions in the community, but Ferguson police released it anyway, the official said.

Not that it ever seemed like a perfectly normal thing to do (it was always clear that they were trying to shift focus to Brown's transgressions), but I was just interested to see that the information that Ferguson PD acted on their own against the advisement of other agencies is actually being talked about openly.

[Himu]

People are still coming despite the rain. It's getting even THICKER. MY PEOPLE Stretching out revealing key investigation info for days, hitting them with tear gas and rubber bullets just for protesting, creating a no fly zone, bringing out apcs, and now setting a curfew to suppress these voices and they still fight on.   America the land of the free.

[Joe Molotov]

I knew that the Highway Patrol/State Police were pissed that they did it, but even the Justice Department told them not to? 

[Shadow Mod]

I knew that the Highway Patrol/State Police were pissed that they did it, but even the Justice Department told them not to? 

One can only hope this means the feds will be up their ass now since they basically got pissed on, assuming this is all true.

[Himu]

the feds are doing their own investigation and even interrogated the Bruh dude who saw it happen on twitter.

[Himu]

kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

[benjipwns]

Do cac's have permission to laugh at that?

[Madrun Badrun]

no.  If you laugh himu will riot*


*online

[benjipwns]

That's what I was afraid of, you know these types of a certain continental origin...

[Himu]

[Himu]

I don't know... but the way ol boy was talking the cops better hope those nikkas don't come out that motherfukker.

I'll tell you what pisses me off though.
The curfew only applies to black males.

If you are a white cop with a badge you can be out.
If you are a white dude with a press badge you can be out.
If you are a white lawyer 'legal observer' you are good.
If you are an old black lady with a peacekeeper badge they don't care.

fukking Jim Crow.

PROTEST THIS SHIT

[Himu]

It's 12

[Himu]

@AntonioFrench
A hardcore group has congregated on Red's Barbeque lot. They say they aren't moving. Some are armed.

[Madrun Badrun]

I feel threatened by your aggressive emoticons!  Demi put a curfew on this thread.  Shut it down.

[Himu]

https://vine.co/v/M3MrHzQ12OZ

[Himu]

@AmyKNelson
this is not good. there are guys armed & they are gathering at top of the road. "we're making history tonight"



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https://twitter.com/stephlecci/statuses/500870979749703680

:damn

[Himu]

STL niccas are real. Damn.

[Himu]

THEY ARE LITERALLY DOING NOTHING WRONG AND THE POLICE ARE SAYING THEYRE RESISTING CURFEW SO THEY SHOULD PREPARE TO BE ARRESTED. JIM CROW.

[Shadow Mod]

Tear gas mode.

[ZephyrFate]

tbh the fact that police can even impose a curfew on American people is an abuse of power

[Himu]

TEAR GAS

[Shadow Mod]

tbh the fact that police can even impose a curfew on American people is an abuse of power

It's so patronizing other than the flagrant fascist part.

Way to calm tensions: treat people with legitimate concerns like naughty children.

[Yeti]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/governor-declares-emergency-sets-ferguson-curfew-25006363
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/17/us/missouri-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Seems like most people abided by the curfew. In that second link I thought it was interesting that the Brown family hired a pathologist from the OJ Simpson trial to conduct a second autopsy. Hopefully there isn't any shady business going on, and if there is hopefully it will be found out. We're still waiting on details from the first autopsy as far as I know.

[Yeti]

Shit I didn't hear about the tear gas, fuck that

[Shadow Mod]

Shit I didn't hear about the tear gas, fuck that

Hearing live rounds now.

[Himu]

BULLETS

[Yeti]

 

[Himu]

@jonswaine
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Protesters breaking kerb stones to throw at cops in Ferguson



@AmyKNelson
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"they coming from behind!" cops surrounding on other side they are trapped gun shots


@HuffingtonPost
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Gun shots fired in #Ferguson.



This is smoke bombs and not tear gas.

[Himu]

So it's NOT smoke.

@jonswaine
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I tasted it and this was a lie RT @mattdpearce Police liaison tells press it's all been smoke, not gas.

[Himu]

@jonswaine
Someone has been shot

@jonswaine
Man shot in leg. Just taken to hospital in car

[Your Stalker]

all this just to protect one man. god bless amerikkka

[Himu]

We are not Americans, breh. Filed; understood.

[Himu]

YO.

Three apcs slowly advance on group of 8 protesters linking arms. Sound cannon. #Ferguson
- @D_Towski

[Your Stalker]

Ryan J. Reilly        ✔ @ryanjreilly
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Public relations officer confirms to me that was tear gas, not smoke bombs as some had suggested #Ferguson

[Your Stalker]

https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/statuses/500887532746579968

Original press officer told me he made a mistake in saying it was tear gas #ferguson

[Himu]

I'm buying me a gun sometime in the next year. Never thought I'd say that, but there it is. I also need training.

[Himu]

shots?

[Shadow Mod]

shots?

flashbang nade most likely.

[Himu]

@TheTechCEO
Still hot, on the ground in front of us. #Ferguson

[G The Resurrected]

any live feeds?

[Himu]

[Himu]

!!!!!!!!!!!!

@BradHutchings
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They’re arresting @jack, co-founder of Twitter.  Holy clusterfuck #Ferguson. Game over, you clowns lose. @GovJayNixon, just resign, moron.

Could be escorted.

[Shadow Mod]

Just went down.

[Himu]

Someone shot.

Oh my god RT @Jayron26: Somebody has been shot. Fell to ground. Protestors helping. #Ferguson https://vine.co/v/M3M0bMvQYQQ

[Shadow Mod]

Was it possible he was hit by a canister?

[Himu]

Possibly.

[StealthFan]

 

[Himu]

[G The Resurrected]

I don't mean to sound stupid or racist or offend anyone by asking this. But what do these people really think they can accomplish when others of like skin continue to exhibit behaviour that only goes to reinforce the negativity? 

Two days we've seen the good and the bad, I don't know how to feel personally about this whole situation. I lived here when the Oscar Grant murder/shooting happened and it was very eye opening. But at the same time I'm sympathetic to the officers that are put in these situations where there really is no winning. Now officers have to fear civil action that can ruin their families and all because of mistakes that happen while on one of the hardest jobs there is. I'm not saying that I agree with what the officer did, but none of us really know what it's like to be in a situation like that. No amount of training can help curb our natural instinct to survive and the fact that we don't have more shootings is a miracle when you think of how violent we've gotten as a society.

I would wish it was mandatory for all officers to wear video recording equipment as a result of these shootings. So we could better know the circumstances for these shootings. I'd also wish all vehicles were required to have them as well. It's a small price to pay to better understand and evaluate officers in the field.

Again I mean not to offend by my thoughts, but it's important we all have these honest and open conversations.

[Shadow Mod]

If these cops have to consistently go for their guns against black people that's a problem with how black people are generally perceived by a racist society and cops being trigger happy, not a problem with black people themselves. As if white people can't threaten and harass officers and still manage to live through it. Black people just exist and they're a threat to people.

What makes this situation really tense is cops are killing lots of nonthreatening individuals or beating them senseless and we get to watch how our police respond to people congregating with military type force.

Shit's scary.