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« Reply #2100 on: November 28, 2014, 09:33:41 PM »
jaydub is so mad and it's fucking hilarious
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« Reply #2101 on: November 28, 2014, 10:45:14 PM »
Infuriating. Feds already decided not to charge anything right?
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« Reply #2102 on: November 29, 2014, 12:24:29 AM »
man if only people knew how much bullshit these dumbass fake revolutionary white dudes bring to the protests. throwing rocks from the back of the crowd, burning down neighborhood buildings people actually like, bringing fucking Molotovs and shit - all bc they seriously think this is the start of a fucking communist our anarchist revolution. go back to your coffee shops, assholes.

there was a whole bunch of out-of-state ppl here today, and during some downtime I heard some commune recruitment. almost shot myself right there on the spot.
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« Reply #2103 on: November 29, 2014, 02:13:53 AM »
Is that statute shit true, about it being ruled unconstitutional a decade + ago yet the jury was shown that shit as if it was law?
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« Reply #2104 on: November 29, 2014, 09:00:01 AM »
yes
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« Reply #2105 on: November 29, 2014, 09:34:00 AM »
man if only people knew how much bullshit these dumbass fake revolutionary white dudes bring to the protests. throwing rocks from the back of the crowd, burning down neighborhood buildings people actually like, bringing fucking Molotovs and shit - all bc they seriously think this is the start of a fucking communist our anarchist revolution. go back to your coffee shops, assholes.

there was a whole bunch of out-of-state ppl here today, and during some downtime I heard some commune recruitment. almost shot myself right there on the spot.

i've heard of similar complaints from a few places (I can't recall but I believe DC and San Francisco) of white people being especially provocative towards police at otherwise calm protests and white anarchists taking over the "black lives matter" chant for "all lives matter" to reshape things to suit their desires rather than support of the people actually affected.

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« Reply #2106 on: November 29, 2014, 03:29:49 PM »
yup it's been a problem since this started but this past week it's especially bad. the majority of the people that have been arrested the last few days have been from out-of-state bc no one here is trying to go out of their way to get locked up. at best they're just an annoyance who fuck up chants but at worst they put people at risk by unnecessarily antagonizing the cops.

and it's so sad because they honestly think that there's a revolution coming that'll for whatever reason lead to fucking communism :lol
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« Reply #2107 on: November 29, 2014, 04:30:12 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=941647

So many in this thread happy with letting racists call people distinguished black fellow over twitter and facebook without consequence

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« Reply #2108 on: November 29, 2014, 04:38:18 PM »


:rofl
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« Reply #2109 on: November 29, 2014, 04:47:41 PM »
I can't believe Boston of all places had a big-ass protest in support. and now I see fucking UTAH is having one too. I mean, this is fucking crazy.
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« Reply #2110 on: November 29, 2014, 05:43:35 PM »
I can't believe Boston of all places had a big-ass protest in support. and now I see fucking UTAH is having one too. I mean, this is fucking crazy.
Sheeeit, there are protests on Cape Cod for that matter. Kinda surreal seeing "Black Lives Matter" signs held at rallies where no black people are actually present.

RE: racists getting fired.  I'm pretty staunchly against snitching of any type, but I don't see how anyone could oppose this.
One of the things that frustrates the shit out of me is the propensity of people to censor the names of peoples Facebook and Twitter handles when they repost the racist/sexist/homophobic shit they see other people posting in their feed. If you're so appalled by what this asshole has to say, why take the time to open Photoshop to protect them? It's not like they're saying this shit in confidence and you're exposing them to the world. They already exposed themselves, so why not let them deal with the consequences?

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« Reply #2111 on: November 29, 2014, 07:44:18 PM »
Fucking hell. No protest going on tonight if I'm correct.
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« Reply #2112 on: November 29, 2014, 10:41:38 PM »
Darren Wilson's resignation statement painting himself as a martyr  :heh
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« Reply #2113 on: November 29, 2014, 10:44:59 PM »
Quote from: wikipedia
A martyr (Greek: μάρτυς, mártys, "witness"; stem μάρτυρ-, mártyr-) is somebody who suffers persecution and death for advocating, renouncing, refusing to renounce, and/or refusing to advocate a belief or cause, usually a religious one. Most martyrs are considered holy or are respected by their followers, becoming a symbol of good leadership and heroism.
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« Reply #2114 on: November 29, 2014, 10:52:40 PM »
 :what
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« Reply #2115 on: November 30, 2014, 01:44:28 AM »
metaphors, how do they work?  :beli

http://abcnews.go.com/US/darren-wilson-resigns-ferguson-police-force/story?id=27254501
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Darren Wilson has resigned from the Ferguson, Mo., Police Department in wake of fatal shooting of Michael Brown, his attorney said today.

Wilson's resignation comes five days after a grand jury investigating the Aug. 9 shooting declined to indict the police officer. He has been on administrative leave since the shooting.

One of his attorneys, Neil Bruntrager, said the resignation is effective immediately.

The killing of Brown, an unarmed 18-year-old, on a Saturday afternoon in the St. Louis suburb, ignited protests there and around the country.

Since the grand jury decision handed up Monday not to indict Wilson, 28, there have been renewed demonstrations in every major city across the country, protesting the failure to charge him.

Bruntrager provided ABC News with a copy of Wilson's letter of resignation. It reads:

"I, Darren Wilson, hereby resign my commission as a police officer with the City of Ferguson effective immediately. I have been told that my continued employment may put the residents and police officers of the City of Ferguson at risk, which is a circumstance that I cannot allow. For obvious reasons, I wanted to wait until the grand jury made their decision before I officially made my decision to resign. It was my hope to continue in police work, but the safety of other police officers and the community are of paramount importance to me. It is my hope that my resignation will allow the community to heal. I would like to thank all of my supporters and fellow officers throughout this process."

Though Wilson was cleared of criminal charges by the grand jury, the Justice Department is conducting a civil rights investigation into the shooting as well as a separate probe of police department practices.

Wilson, who has been in seclusion since the fatal shooting, said this week in an interview with "Good Morning America" anchor George Stephanolpoulos that he had gotten married since the Aug.9 shooting and that he and his new wife are expecting a baby.

Wilson said in that interview that he wanted to spend his career with the police force, and hoped to one day be promoted to sergeant.

"I wanted to stay on the road for 30 years and then retire as sergeant and have a retirement," Wilson said. "That's all that I wanted."

But he said that after what happened, he was not sure he could return to the Ferguson Police Department. He was a member of the department for six years.

"I'm not sure it's possible. I mean, you think they would accept me? You think it'd be safe for me?" Wilson asked.

He said his notoriety could also put his fellow officers in jeopardy, and asked: "Can I put them in that situation?"

Though in the interview he said he had not made a final decision on returning to the force, he offered some thoughts on what else he might want to do.

"I would love to teach people. I would love to give more insight on … into the use of force and anything I can," he said. "Anything that I can get out of this career I've had so far and of the incident, I would love to give to someone else."
 

It seems pretty obvious to me he is trying to come off as a tragic figure, nobly falling on his sword for the betterment of an undeserving mankind. Conspicuously absent are any mentions of guilt or remorse for taking Mike Brown's life. I'm not really sure what is so difficult to understand?
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« Reply #2117 on: December 01, 2014, 05:06:05 PM »
yeah I'm sure a hot-headed asshole who shot and killed an unarmed teenager would make a great teacher
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« Reply #2118 on: December 01, 2014, 05:08:21 PM »
also:
http://fergusonaction.com/white-house-meeting/

protest leaders from Ferguson and other cities meet with Obama, Biden, and Holder today. I mean, dude.
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« Reply #2119 on: December 01, 2014, 05:12:23 PM »
Obama wants $75 million to help pay for cop body cams; let's turn to the libertarian to tell us why that's a bad idea

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« Reply #2120 on: December 01, 2014, 06:21:50 PM »
yeah I'm sure a hot-headed asshole who shot and killed an unarmed teenager would make a great teacher

Wow, more conspiratard delusion.

Cop did his job and took the actual hotheaded asshole of the streets.


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« Reply #2121 on: December 01, 2014, 06:28:55 PM »
As someone put it the other day, JD is actually "a straight-up cultural fascist who hides under the libertarian umbrella."

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« Reply #2122 on: December 01, 2014, 06:34:54 PM »
yeah I'm sure a hot-headed asshole who shot and killed an unarmed teenager would make a great teacher

Wow, more conspiratard delusion.

Cop did his job and took the actual hotheaded asshole of the streets.

Be a libertarian and applaud state sanctioned violence played to the hilt, brehs (Image removed from quote.)

I only wish Mandark was here for all the fuckery  :tocry
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« Reply #2123 on: December 01, 2014, 06:48:43 PM »
funny thing is I heard thru the telephone game that other cops that knew Darren Wilson before all this and said he was always a huge asshole and a racist :lol
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« Reply #2124 on: December 01, 2014, 07:04:20 PM »
JayDubs finally liberating himself from any pretense of not being a white supremacist sympathizer. keep flying ever higher, li'l angel :american

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« Reply #2125 on: December 01, 2014, 07:07:03 PM »
i may be giving him too much credit but i'm pretty sure there was a time when he'd at least have paid lip service to the idea that state violence against an unarmed individual might be a Bad Thing

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« Reply #2126 on: December 01, 2014, 08:15:22 PM »
Wait, Jay seriously claims he's a libertarian? I have him blocked, but from what I've seen quoted he comes across like a neocon caricature. He's been itt stanning for the state like he's on their payroll since this dude got off.

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« Reply #2127 on: December 01, 2014, 09:25:01 PM »
"HOLD ON DIPSHITS WAIT FOR THE FACTS"
*actual facts come out*
"NO THIS CAN'T BE RIGHT I'LL JUST GO WITH THE COPS STORY 100%. MAN I TOLD YOU YOU GUYS WERE STUPID."
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« Reply #2128 on: December 01, 2014, 09:25:49 PM »
At this point, I encourage you all to continue to not see reason, as you had already made your minds up when you heard the story in the first place, anyway.   By all means, please die on this hill.  Make as much of a punchline of yourselves as possible.

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« Reply #2129 on: December 01, 2014, 09:30:58 PM »
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« Reply #2130 on: December 01, 2014, 09:34:23 PM »
The utter glee I'm sensing coming from Jaydub's posts whenever he describes the scenarios of Mike Brown getting shot is kinda scary tbqh.

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« Reply #2131 on: December 01, 2014, 09:47:55 PM »
At this point, I encourage you all to continue to not see reason, as you had already made your minds up when you heard the story in the first place, anyway.   By all means, please die on this hill.  Make as much of a punchline of yourselves as possible.

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See, I can't tell with this kinda shit. This could very well be an internal monologue and it would actually make sense. Is dude a troll? I have a hard time believing people are willfully this dumb.

Also, I appeal to the good people of the bore to please stop responding to jay. I'm all for dissenting opinions, but reactionary needling is a needless distraction from an otherwise decent discussion.

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« Reply #2132 on: December 01, 2014, 10:06:46 PM »
You know you're on the wrong side when you're calling me a "social justice warrior"
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« Reply #2134 on: December 01, 2014, 10:44:20 PM »
If you're calling social justice the enemy then shut the fuck up you are a racist, end of story

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« Reply #2135 on: December 02, 2014, 12:54:35 AM »
So when Jaydubya says he's a libertarian, he basically means he's a Republican who likes weed, right?

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« Reply #2136 on: December 02, 2014, 12:55:10 AM »
Also, legitimately curious: whose side were you on in the Cliven Bundy dispute?

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« Reply #2137 on: December 02, 2014, 08:22:48 AM »
So when Jaydubya says he's a libertarian, he basically means he's a Republican who likes weed, right?

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« Reply #2138 on: December 02, 2014, 11:53:05 AM »
Grand Jury polls:

Americans divide evenly on last week’s grand jury decision in Ferguson, Missouri – with vast racial, political and generational gaps defining public attitudes on the volatile issue.

Overall, 48 percent in this ABC News/Washington Post poll approve and 45 percent disapprove of the grand jury’s decision not to bring criminal charges against police officer Darren Wilson, who is white, in the fatal shooting of black teenager Michael Brown last August.

Underlying divisions are profound. Fifty-eight percent of whites approve of the grand jury action, compared with 9 percent of blacks and 32 percent of Hispanics, the nation’s two main racial and ethnic minorities. Eighty-five percent of blacks and six in 10 Hispanics disapprove.

Indeed, 73 percent of blacks “strongly” disapprove of the decision not to charge Wilson, a remarkable level of strong sentiment on any issue. Forty-five percent of Hispanics also strongly disapprove – while among whites, 42 percent strongly approve of the grand jury’s decision.

There’s also an even split, 48-47 percent, on whether the federal government should bring civil rights charges against Wilson. In this case 85 percent of blacks say they’d approve, as do 67 percent of Hispanics – falling to 38 percent among whites.

This poll, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates, highlights the stark social divisions in opinions of the case, many of which mirror broader attitudes about the criminal justice system. Views divide sharply not only by race, but also by political party affiliation, ideology and age, among other factors.

Seventy-six percent of Republicans, for example, approve of the grand jury’s decision, while half of political independents and just 27 percent of Democrats agree. Views on civil charges run just as sharply in the opposite direction: Nearly three-quarters of Democrats say they’d approve, dropping to fewer than half of independents and just 21 percent of Republicans.

There’s a similar divide by ideology, with approval for the grand jury action ranging from 74 percent among strong conservatives to 47 percent of moderates and 29 percent of liberals. At the same time 62 percent of liberals say they’d approve of the federal government bringing civil rights charges; 51 percent of moderates agree, dropping to 29 percent of strong conservatives.

The generational differences are equally sharp, with 62 percent of seniors approving of the grand jury decision, compared with 30 percent of those under age 30. And while two-thirds of millennials approve of efforts to pursue a civil case, just a third of seniors agree.
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« Reply #2139 on: December 02, 2014, 12:50:02 PM »
Here's the thing, and I keep on saying this. If you think this is about Mike Brown you're not paying attention.

Did Mike Brown get in a fight with the cop? Yeah, most likely.
Was his DNA on the gun? We don't know. The cops didn't bother to check for it.
At what distance was he initially shot from? We don't know. The cops didn't bother to determine it.
Were the injuries inflicted on Darren Wilson life threatening? Absolutely not.  I've been more beat up in falling down stairs.
Where is the police report on several incidents? All it says is "Police Report"
Where are the medical examiner's pics? There are none because the medical examiner's camera battery was dead and he couldn't be bothered to get it charged or get a replacement battery despite the fact that the body was out there for 4.5 hours.
Would this have gone to trial if it had been treated seriously? Most legal experts say yes. Now they do admit conviction would have been difficult but they generally agree that the grand jury was pretty much a set of softball questions to kill this from ever getting to trial.

Did Mike Brown deserve to get shot? I'd say no, but let's play devils advocate and say that maybe he did. Does that matter to the conversation here? Where you have such an obvious disregard for due process and didn't even bother to do the investigation thoroughly. It is obvious that the PD thought, "Just another dead thug. Whatever." Instead of taking it seriously. And this is what people are angry about, after Trayvon, that guy at Wal-Mart, the kid with the bb gun and so many others, people feel like it's open season on brownies out there and that the system to ensure that it isn't is horribly broken because it's obvious they don't take these deaths seriously. Meanwhile a bunch of white people take out semi-automatic weapons and blockade federal police and not only is not a single shot fired from them but they actually back down and the armed people are viewed as heroes.

What we have here is a huge mass of people giving their vote of no confidence in their police and justice departments. You can character assassinate Mike Brown all you want, but you can't pretend that the PD here took any of this seriously. That's not really debatable. And that's what's infuriating so many. That's why whatever Mike Brown did doesn't really matter, because the system was stacked against him from getting anything close to justice if he was innocent. If the PD had come out and done a thorough investigation, actually called out Wilson when he said that he felt like a 5 year old hanging onto Hulk Hogan when he's just one inch shorter than Brown instead of saying "You poor baby", if the medical examiner had done his job and not just been like "eh, someone else will take care of it." if we had DNA on the gun. If we had distances. If we had a viable reasons as to why Mike Brown  was such a threat at 150 feet away. Then yeah, chances are I'd be on the side of thinking it was unfortunate but might've been justified. But we don't have any of that, and haven't had any of that for a ton of incidents like this and instead what we have is a military force that only feigns at accountability. It seems to me that a self professed libertarian would understand all this.
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« Reply #2140 on: December 02, 2014, 12:53:29 PM »
Goddamnit, double post.

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« Reply #2141 on: December 02, 2014, 12:53:43 PM »
Well said. I think to dig deeper we need to acknowledge a few things

1) The PD is always going to defend it's members. That's human nature.
2) We need a new entity that is run by civilians that govern the PD on cases such as this.
3) Body Cameras are a must, especially in high risk cities.
4) There is still profiling going on, and it goes way beyond the PD. It stretches up to the court system as well.
5) The prosecutor needs to be replaced.
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« Reply #2142 on: December 02, 2014, 12:56:26 PM »
racism is over guys
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« Reply #2143 on: December 02, 2014, 02:51:56 PM »
JD, I'm having difficulty understanding how you went from agreeing with me that something should be done to better meet the needs of black members of the community to feel safeguarded by and have trust in the police to ignoring that part of the issue entirely and focusing only on the solitary case of Brown. Do you no longer think that is the case?

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« Reply #2144 on: December 02, 2014, 03:00:38 PM »
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Hold up, now....  Trayvon Martin?  He attacked a guy for walking near him and talking to him.

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« Reply #2145 on: December 02, 2014, 03:21:14 PM »
jaydub will never admit there is a problem with the justice system and black people because like most racists, he thinks it's a fiction and that black people bring it upon themselves
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« Reply #2146 on: December 02, 2014, 03:27:43 PM »
JD, I'm having difficulty understanding how you went from agreeing with me that something should be done to better meet the needs of black members of the community to feel safeguarded by and have trust in the police to ignoring that part of the issue entirely and focusing only on the solitary case of Brown. Do you no longer think that is the case?

Implying this cuntburger thinks at all

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« Reply #2147 on: December 02, 2014, 03:35:36 PM »
JayDubya is the John Stossel of the bore, he thinks he's speaking THE TRUTH but he's really just a racist hiding behind a faux Libertarian facade and everyone but him knows it. 
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« Reply #2148 on: December 02, 2014, 03:39:47 PM »
JayDubya is the John Stossel of the bore, he thinks he's speaking THE TRUTH but he's really just a racist hiding behind a faux Libertarian facade and everyone but him knows it.

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« Reply #2149 on: December 02, 2014, 03:39:48 PM »
It's just not worth it anymore.  I take solace in the fact that I do not surround myself with people as depressingly inhumane and unsympathetic as JayDub in real life.  It honestly just makes me sad.
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« Reply #2150 on: December 02, 2014, 03:41:43 PM »
I put him on ignore. No regrets.
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« Reply #2151 on: December 02, 2014, 03:44:53 PM »
I put him on ignore. No regrets.
Should have done this months ago my friend :ufup
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« Reply #2152 on: December 02, 2014, 03:57:05 PM »
Does JayDubya ever wonder why in so many years of posting he always ends up on the side of the debate where he gets called a racist?  Like year after year after year?
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« Reply #2154 on: December 02, 2014, 04:04:40 PM »
Call me clueless and naive (because I am, watching from afar), but that recent Chris Rock interview made some good points. I love the we he puts it here:

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Here’s the thing. When we talk about race relations in America or racial progress, it’s all nonsense. There are no race relations. White people were crazy. Now they’re not as crazy. To say that black people have made progress would be to say they deserve what happened to them before.

Right. It’s ridiculous.

So, to say Obama is progress is saying that he’s the first black person that is qualified to be president. That’s not black progress. That’s white progress. There’s been black people qualified to be president for hundreds of years. If you saw Tina Turner and Ike having a lovely breakfast over there, would you say their relationship’s improved? Some people would. But a smart person would go, “Oh, he stopped punching her in the face.” It’s not up to her. Ike and Tina Turner’s relationship has nothing to do with Tina Turner. Nothing. It just doesn’t. The question is, you know, my kids are smart, educated, beautiful, polite children. There have been smart, educated, beautiful, polite black children for hundreds of years. The advantage that my children have is that my children are encountering the nicest white people that America has ever produced. Let’s hope America keeps producing nicer white people.

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Re: Mike Brown shooting thread - No indictment! Get out and protest!
« Reply #2155 on: December 02, 2014, 04:26:20 PM »
What I have a problem with JD is that you always would err on the side of the non-government entity in almost everything. Yet when it comes to this, well the Government must be trusted and given as much power as they deem necessary. It's an APF contrarian type move.
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Re: Mike Brown shooting thread - No indictment! Get out and protest!
« Reply #2156 on: December 02, 2014, 04:27:20 PM »
Does JayDubya ever wonder why in so many years of posting he always ends up on the side of the debate where he gets called a racist?  Like year after year after year?

That would require thinking, which isn't a skill he has. He's got all these beliefs instead, dontchaknow!
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Re: Mike Brown shooting thread - No indictment! Get out and protest!
« Reply #2157 on: December 02, 2014, 04:37:40 PM »
I'm not coming from an accusatory tone or trying to shut down discussion, JD, so why have you not given my post a response and yet chose to engage with those who are? Without a response the only conclusion I can draw logically is that you have no intention to engage in real discourse here and are just attempting to get a rise out of people.


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Re: Mike Brown shooting thread - No indictment! Get out and protest!
« Reply #2159 on: December 02, 2014, 04:52:35 PM »
I'm not coming from an accusatory tone or trying to shut down discussion, JD, so why have you not given my post a response and yet chose to engage with those who are? Without a response the only conclusion I can draw logically is that you have no intention to engage in real discourse here and are just attempting to get a rise out of people.

Why do you think? He ignores what he wants to ignore.
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