Destiny thread of Density

[pilonv1]

So Destiny has welfare legendaries now?

[demi]

Yea, these are pretty much free legendaries, lol. And if not, they're free Ascendant Shards  (used to upgrade everything high level)

If the bounties are daily, expect a ton of Level 30s within the week

[demi]

Patch Notes

http://www.bungie.net/7_Destiny-Dev-Notes/en/News/News?aid=12188

http://www.bungie.net/7_Hot-Fix---09252014/en/News/News?aid=12190

They nerfed the Glory Hole (Treasure Cave; Loot Cave...), you cant dismantle the Queen items for Shards (wut???), and they basically fucked with the loot even more

* Raid still broken of course

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How is the raid broken?

Damn i wish my buddy would finish this game so I can sell it

[demi]

It crashes/glitches when you beat it. The countdown doesnt work.

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You still playing it for cheevs demi?

[demi]

Yup

[demi]

[Dickie Dee]

People are defending Destiny and saying that its better then D3 or WoW were at launch

Peeps are on crack

Nothing to say on this argument other than the fact that there is approx 0% chance that Destiny is going to get the post-launch support that D3 or WoW did. (WoW is obviously different but you can't argue that Blizzard didn't support the shit out of D3 post-launch, basically "fixing" it for free)

I bought it even after the early reviews/reactions came out since there was a crazy good deal on a PS4 on amazon.ca and in addition, you could get Destiny for $20 off on top of that. I figured even if it's sucks now it'd be patched into something good like D3 was. I've changed my since though - there's been no hint of much post launch support other than the paid DLC coming down the pipeline (or their planned "raids" which don't sound like they'll fix the core problems). Think I'll return it without opening it.

[G The Resurrected]

Demi you so funny! Thanks for joining us. You're always welcome to my fireteam.

[demi]

it was my first time playing

[Shadow Mod]

Get exotic gear off legendary it's for the wrong class. 

[AdmiralViscen]

I don't understand why you can't swap loot

[Rufus]

You wouldn't have to grind as much then. Can't have that.

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Will be playing again this weekend.

[demi]

New Glory Hole

[Rufus]

[demi]

"Please buy our game" patch

http://www.bungie.net/7_102-Patch-Preview/en/News/News?aid=12202

[Human Snorenado]

Game sounds like a real clusterfuck

[bachikarn]

How do I get strange coins?

[demi]

You can do the Weekly Strike, you can get them as rewards from Crucible (maybe high level Strikes?) and you can get them from decrypting Rare Engrams

[demi]

The Vex Mythoclast, only obtainable in Hard Mode Raid

[fistfulofmetal]

finished the game.
time to grind stuff i guess.

[Rufus]

The real game begins now.

[Phoenix Dark]

So matchmaking is shit? I understand not having matchmaking for raids, as a WoW vet; nerfs really became common after raid matchmaking because of the low level of player skill that started doing content and complaining about it. Every group I tried was full of people who couldn't play for shit and you'd have to wait for decent people to join after the scrubs left or were kicked.

I understand wanting match making for non raid material, that's just a modern requirement. Still, I preferred WoW before dungeon match making. You had to either join a guild or have a good list of friends to do shit. If a healer wasn't online you had to find one in chat, and lord knows that was a gamble. I enjoyed logging on and getting multiple whispers from friends looking for a tank; that always made me feel like people appreciated my skill, and that my name rung out on the server.

Destiny will be nerfed to hell very soon I'm sure. You guys essentially bought a beta. I'm sure the inevitable PC version will be legit. Basically the opposite of what happened with Diablo 3.

[Stoney Mason]

[Shadow Mod]

So matchmaking is shit? I understand not having matchmaking for raids, as a WoW vet; nerfs really became common after raid matchmaking because of the low level of player skill that started doing content and complaining about it. Every group I tried was full of people who couldn't play for shit and you'd have to wait for decent people to join after the scrubs left or were kicked.

I understand wanting match making for non raid material, that's just a modern requirement. Still, I preferred WoW before dungeon match making. You had to either join a guild or have a good list of friends to do shit. If a healer wasn't online you had to find one in chat, and lord knows that was a gamble. I enjoyed logging on and getting multiple whispers from friends looking for a tank; that always made me feel like people appreciated my skill, and that my name rung out on the server.

Destiny will be nerfed to hell very soon I'm sure. You guys essentially bought a beta. I'm sure the inevitable PC version will be legit. Basically the opposite of what happened with Diablo 3.

When you have gear that's obtainable by luck and strange coins and there isn't any real measure of skill you get the scrubs for pugs. Don't go in shit solo.

[demi]

I dont think I'll ever do the Raid, I just dont know enough people, and I'm not really willing to join some random group online.

I'd be farming Vanguard Tokens, except the game caps you at 100, so you have to literally wait a whole week before you can do it again.

Most guns cost 150 tokens.

[Bebpo]

I played like an hour or two of this about a week ago.  Seems entertaining enough as a SP game where I shoot stuff and get loot.  I'm sure I'll hate it by 15 hours in endgame, but at least it starts off enjoyable enough.  Only complaint I have in the early game is the loading is stupid and you should be able to go directly from Citadel to the missions.

[AdmiralViscen]

Hit 20 today and beat all the missions.

PD, there is almost no communication with anyone and no way to organize anything so the WoW model isn't really an option.

Demi are you on XBone? I doubt my crew ever gets to 26 but there are three of us. On PS4 though.

[demi]

PS4 is for losers

[demi]

Hey, lets play some Destiny before bed...

... oh, the servers are down

again

[fistfulofmetal]

i don't understand why every single mission doesn't have an option to matchmake. i mean what the fuck? you can play with people so why not allow me to find people to play with?

[fistfulofmetal]

I think Bungie will eventually patch this to Diablo 3 levels of loot drops or at least make it more common for slightly better gear to constantly drop. This seems like the "When something drops it'll be a big improvement!" which sucks because it's not fun. Especially when you finish the game so quick and have to grind that much.

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There is some great speculation and rumours going around now about how bungied gutted the game since 2013.

http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2hqmkb/how_destinys_content_completely_changed_over_the/

Just look at this trailer bit for example, where is this stuff?

I've got a grimoire score of 2115, and you can be sure as shit that I have not bothered to fill in the ridiculous blanks in the game's awful narrative by visiting an external website or mobile app.

No idea what happened to Destiny in its final months, but it's not hard to see that someone rather messily took a scalpel to it.

Always thought it odd that the boss for the House of Winter mission on Venus calls out "don't shoot!" and other baddies seem to refer to you as the Darkness in their garbled exclamations.

Pretty sure I read about a 2013 or so closed door press event showing off some story tidbits involving Crow (the Awoken Queen's brother?) explaining to some Guardians (including the player's character) that the Darkness actually comes from the Traveler and that it is actually responsible for the Collapse of the Golden Era.

Though, of course, they could have just been pulling that out of their asses as well. Still, it's quite clear that what we got is woefully incomplete, and that there's more to blame here than locking content out for future expansions.

Nothing made sense, nothing is resolved. Plot points are introduced and never referred to again. Not even the main concern of a dormant Traveler. The Traveler, the Ghosts, the Light, the Guardians, Rasputin/Warmind, the motivations of ANY of the alien factions (Fallen, Hive, Vex, Cabal), the Hive's distant machine god and their plans for the fragment of the Traveler they possessed, the Archive, the Black Garden, the Reef, the Awoken, Old Chicago, Mercury, non-Guardians such as the Stranger, anything outside our Solar System or galaxy.

All of these disparate elements are introduced, and a few are tenuously linked (Fallen - Archive, Cabal - Rasputin, Vex - Black Garden), but no single element actually sees any rational development. And then the game just ends, without having bothered answering any questions at all, or indeed, recalling that any questions were even posed in the first place. It's utterly flabbergasting. Halo was hardly compelling stuff, but at least it was somewhat cohesive and consistent, even if consistently disappointing from a narrative standpoint. Destiny is shattered and clearly incomplete.

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Watch this Vidoc from last year 

Book 1 Chapter 3, help the Queen loot the academy archive

  So this game DID have a story once, even a story mode

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More great stuff, the fallout from Destiny makes me want to keep the game

Look at how the first mission looked a year ago...

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Forgot the link to the vidoc in question:



Maxy post from 2013, warning signs!

It sounds to me that Bungie chewed up a lot more than it can handle.This thing was in incubation stage after Halo 3 release,iirc

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I see some people hoping for PS4 reveal.That would be a real shitstorm,not because of system warriors but because it looks like press wasted few days for nothing.
Why not just release VidDoc if you have absolutely nothing to show to the press(even under heavy NDA)?

[demi]

Game has glitchy achievements. I've hit Vanguard Rank 3, and did 20 Salvage Assists/Captures (horrible mode btw), and they wont pop. Sometimes they pop "randomly" when you log in "randomly" one day, but it still hasnt yet.

Annoying as FUK

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Damn Demi you are still going strong.

From Bungie forums:

So leave. It's an mmo go play call of duty and play mindlessly. Plain and simple. The mmo people that can handle the game are loving it. Being bad at it and crying cuz nothing is handed to you is your own damn problem. THANKS FOR PAYING THE MONEY TO GO TOWARDS OUR DLC.

 

I wanted to highlight the most bad ass part of this, but honestly it's all bad ass.

[demi]

On the plus side, any achievements you earn for one version, carries over to the other. So I can get double score if I log in on 360.

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Jeebus Demi you played this game a lot, im around 20 hours.

You gonna keep it for the DLC?

[demi]

I'm getting to the end. I want to get the "equip all Legendary" achievement at least. I wont be satisfied until I finally get a Legendary primary. Or even a Legendary sniper.

I've also never received an Exotic Bounty at all yet, and I hit Vanguard Rank 3 from submitting bounties.

I'm not getting the DLC

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I read somewhere that Halo 2 had 30 cutscenes, Destiny only has 10.

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Just saying guys, it's hard to grasp how bad the exposition of the story is without playing it.   I don't even think the 30 > 10 metric does it justice, because so little is explained in those 10.

This game is such a trainwreck everything around it now is so fascinating and I want to know what happened to the original game. I really can't put my head around it how this could have happened.

I've never watched a youtube reviewer video but Angry Joe thing is so spot on



Edit:

This bit mvp getting a blue while the leeches gets exotics maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan after a 3 hour raid/strike that would kill me

[demi]

To be fair, I'd probably prefer the Shards. They're -much- harder to come by, especially with how important they are to upgrading armor.

Most of the time Exotic equipment you get are for random classes.

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Where the fuck is Luke Smith now huh, dude was always so vocal, where is he now to defend Destiny.

Also if you rolled a Titan, don't play PvP 

Such balance, much playtest

To be fair, I'd probably prefer the Shards. They're -much- harder to come by, especially with how important they are to upgrading armor.

Most of the time Exotic equipment you get are for random classes.

Demi, have you ever played WoW?

[demi]

Never

For PVP I'd rate the classes, from "Annoying as Fuck" to "Lol"

Defender (Titan) - Shield Bubble = ANNOYING AS FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK, especially in Control. WHY FUCKING BOTHER attacking a shield, everyone just hides inside it. Everyone in the shield can get a Defensive buff, or an Offensive buff, depending on how it is specced. Only countered by Bladedancer, everything else just bounces off the shield.

Gunslinger (Hunter) - Golden Gun = 3 one hit kills from afar, WTF

Bladedancer (Hunter) - Arc Blade = Tons of one hit kills, even can be outfitted to regen health on kill with Arc Blade. Invisibility not really a big deal.

Striker (Titan) - Fist of DERP = Blast Radius too strong. Can even survive a rocket launcher while using it.

Voidwalker (Warlock) - Nothing particularly dangerous about it, just a basic hadoken blast, can be stopped mid-animation because its SO SLOW FUCK

Sunsinger (Warlock) - You can self resurrect, big deal, not dangerous at all. I guess chucking mini-suns around is good chip damage on control campers, but you'll die anyway before you can pop 2 off in succession.

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Bladedancer is going to get nerfed into oblivion soon I think, shit is ridiculous.

[Stoney Mason]

Bladedancer is going to get nerfed into oblivion soon I think, shit is ridiculous.

That sub-class class wasn't even in the beta but the moment I saw its super, I thought it was the dumbest thing ever in a PvP context. I don't understand how they went from people who understand what makes an MP game tick to all the decisions in destiny. You can't devalue the player's life in a PvP context like that.

The supers have so little counter play that its like the worst of the call of duty streaks.

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Maybe the supers are there to counterbalance gear, so that even if you have crap gear you have a way of doing some fireworks. I dunno.

I love using my Titan Smash to stop players from capping a control point though, so maybe Im part of the problem.

[Stoney Mason]

Maybe the supers are there to counterbalance gear, so that even if you have crap gear you have a way of doing some fireworks. I dunno.

I love using my Titan Smash to stop players from capping a control point though, so maybe Im part of the problem.

The problem is when people design this stuff in this manner, its fun for the guy doing it but its never fun for the players having it done to them. Same thing happens in COD. It's not a good idea imo to have people running around on the map with all these uncounterable supers. It makes everything feel like a random mess.

In the beta I felt the best way to play was to play in a manner I considered cheap and assholish. But its what worked. That's how I knew the full PvP in the game wouldn't be for me. I would rage my ass off if around ever corner there was a dude with a special where there wasn't really anything I could do about it.

For me it seems like design 101 that every super should inherently have a counter. Especially in a game with an rpg/mmo take. You could make it difficult. But there should be some way for a good player to be able to counter that stuff other than just dying. Either spec wise, or gear wise.

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What is so odd about this is that the game is being published by Activision Blizzard, and those guys at Blizzard learned in Vanilla that having things you can't counter are not good. Thats why they introduced diminishing returns on so many abbilities that made the game unfun (rooting, stuns etc.)

Destiny how it is now just seems like they didn't learn anything from the 10 years wow has been out, except grinding faction XP for loot.

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[demi]

I just linked that above on the same page... you ignoring my posts or something, kkkkunt

[Stoney Mason]

Just the idea that you purposely have weapons that are more powerful than others in a competitive PvP just doesn't make sense to me. I know they are supposed to be "normalized" but some are clearly better than others in all cases. I don't care if it is supposed to be an mmo. That functionally just fucks with the nature of what a competitive shooter game is. There should clearly be Iron Banner only weapons.

Or the PvP should just have been a completely different thing than the PvE aspect.

[Human Snorenado]

People still wanna shit on the itemization in D3?

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I just linked that above on the same page... you ignoring my posts or something, kkkkunt

Haha demi sorry mayne

I just forgot, slept like 3 hours and had to get up at 0400 to fly home

People still wanna shit on the itemization in D3?

Touche, d3 was a masterpiece at launch compared to this

[fistfulofmetal]

I finally got a rare set of boots and accidentally dismantled them LOL