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« Reply #60 on: September 23, 2014, 03:46:29 PM »
Good thing I'm an atheist then.

and don't like things based on what some jaded old dude thinks.
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« Reply #61 on: September 23, 2014, 03:51:38 PM »
The hyperbole that FF13 is a bad game makes no sense. It has a lot of good, notably the battle system. It isn't terrible. Just terribly average if you need more than battles in your rpgs.
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« Reply #62 on: September 23, 2014, 03:59:00 PM »
I wouldn't say it's silly at all given that now mgsv is coming to steam and SE are more open to more platforms for FF.

Also, lots of those games are coming. KOF98 and Metal Slug X drop in a few days. WOTS4 was just announced. We just got TITS on steam. Dynasty Warriors is even on steam. ??? Your argument seems completely incorrect, in that most of this started once SE put VII and VIII and Namco Bandai put Dark Souls on steam and were incredibly successful, thus leading way for more japanese game pubs to put their stuff on the platform. If MGSV turns out to be successful on steam, expect even more. You are wrong about this, this has been coming for a long time.
Namco is actually a bit more interesting then Sqaure and Konami. Not only did they go back and port an older console game(Ace Combat AH), but they are also now having a Japanese team make a PC/steam exclusive.

Whats also interesting is that I believe WOTS4 PC was pushed by it's western handlers, not Japanese. I also want to say that the PC version of Killer is Dead was pushed by Deep Silver. I wonder if we'll see more of that. The small publishers taking the small Japanese games and putting them on PC, because I doubt these small niche developers are going to make a PC version if the western market is'nt their concern. The western market is obviously noteworthy to companies like NB, Konami, Square, and even Sega. Yet in Sega and NB's case only games they've deemed "western" focused get PC versions. We don't see pc versions of Tales or niche Sega stuff. Ace Combat and say Binary Domain though, those were western focused titles.

Which is why I doubt will see things like Persona on PC anytime soon.

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« Reply #63 on: September 23, 2014, 04:09:22 PM »
I think Atlus usa will push for steam releases if FF13 does well. I think the niche companies are currently probing the market and now that big companies like SE seem to pushing harder for their catalog to be on steam, things will change.
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« Reply #64 on: September 23, 2014, 04:58:57 PM »
Elminage Gothic, brehs. :rock
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« Reply #65 on: September 23, 2014, 05:15:13 PM »
The hyperbole that FF13 is a bad game makes no sense. It has a lot of good, notably the battle system. It isn't terrible. Just terribly average if you need more than battles in your rpgs.

its good idea for a battle system thats poorly implemented for 70% of the game, and streched well beyond its value over the course of the 40 hour long one note game. its booty.
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« Reply #66 on: September 23, 2014, 05:26:15 PM »
It's well implemented from chapter 8 and up.
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« Reply #67 on: September 23, 2014, 05:27:30 PM »
It's well implemented from chapter 8 and up.

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« Reply #68 on: September 23, 2014, 05:29:49 PM »
I have fun with the battle system from chapter 2 right up until the end.

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« Reply #69 on: September 23, 2014, 05:43:10 PM »
yeah but you suck
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« Reply #70 on: September 23, 2014, 05:46:32 PM »
It's well implemented from chapter 8 and up.

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That's about 15 hours into the game, which is standard for rpgs to get busy. The boss fights in palompolom were great, and the game continues with the business from there, and gets awesome in chapter 11.
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« Reply #71 on: September 23, 2014, 06:18:10 PM »
Battles are the only good thing about 13. I actually welcomed all the farming for the best weapons.

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« Reply #72 on: September 23, 2014, 06:32:04 PM »
I think Atlus usa will push for steam releases if FF13 does well. I think the niche companies are currently probing the market and now that big companies like SE seem to pushing harder for their catalog to be on steam, things will change.

Atlus (US) has already done Steam releases in the past (Droplitz, God Mode) but they were for poorly received western titles.

If Atlus brought Persona 4: Ultimax to Steam, I'd buy it a second time. Same with Persona 5 and the series going forward on PC as well. But they won't, because Sega will tell them "no"

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« Reply #73 on: September 23, 2014, 06:38:04 PM »
Why would Sega tell them no and why have ganers not gotten than it is Sammy - not Sega - who owns Atlus?
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« Reply #74 on: September 23, 2014, 07:04:28 PM »
yeah but you suck
Well gee thanks for that.
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« Reply #75 on: September 23, 2014, 07:15:45 PM »
No, that's the last thing you should respond with. You're the one who goes all pouty over people NOT liking FF13. I know one or two things about that.
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« Reply #76 on: September 23, 2014, 08:03:02 PM »
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« Reply #77 on: September 23, 2014, 08:28:57 PM »
No, that's the last thing you should respond with. You're the one who goes all pouty over people NOT liking FF13. I know one or two things about that.
Oh please, I was never pouty and I never attacked people on GAF over the game. I don't know who you were on GAF, but that was not at all how I saw it.  I merely defended a game I liked with my own reasons for which people would call me an idiot or just reply with my tag. I got annoyed very quickly. Besides, I don't even do that anymore. I don't waste my time defending this game because no one cares and you'll just get the same kind of replies regardless. So I just do drivebuy posts to be annoying. There's no point in actually arguing about this game. In general I've been a pretty annoying poster, but it's clear I don't like the bore. Nor am I liked here so there's really no point in me posting in general.

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« Reply #78 on: September 23, 2014, 08:30:51 PM »
No, that's the last thing you should respond with. You're the one who goes all pouty over people NOT liking FF13. I know one or two things about that.
Oh please, I was never pouty and I never attacked people on GAF over the game. I don't know who you were on GAF, but that was not at all how I saw it.  I merely defended a game I liked with my own reasons for which people would call me an idiot or just reply with my tag.

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« Reply #79 on: September 23, 2014, 08:38:34 PM »
I liked the idea behind 13's battle system, but it was nowhere near implemented well. Enemies being capable of doing attacks with AoE/positional damage while giving you zero options on how to deal with it is the big one I can think of. Adamntoise/Long Gui in general wouldn't be as frustrating to fight if the game had a "Fall Back!" command or something to have the whole party get away from its god damn legs instead of walking toward/around them.

That and the million times where a Sentinel provoke an enemy AoE right towards him while standing next to a Healer/Ravager/any not tanky unit.

Even 13-2 has that shit despite letting you swap Party leaders. The one time I managed to beat the Ultros/Typhoon DLC, I'd somehow managed to have Noel stand on the complete opposite side of where Serah and the monster were, making all of Typhoon's attack hit only him and not the others. Only that's impossible to do on command unless you fluke yourself into that position like I did.

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« Reply #80 on: September 24, 2014, 01:53:57 AM »
I wouldn't say it's silly at all given that now mgsv is coming to steam and SE are more open to more platforms for FF.

Also, lots of those games are coming. KOF98 and Metal Slug X drop in a few days. WOTS4 was just announced. We just got TITS on steam. Dynasty Warriors is even on steam. ??? Your argument seems completely incorrect, in that most of this started once SE put VII and VIII and Namco Bandai put Dark Souls on steam and were incredibly successful, thus leading way for more japanese game pubs to put their stuff on the platform. If MGSV turns out to be successful on steam, expect even more. You are wrong about this, this has been coming for a long time.

that's a growing list, but the niche stuff i was referring to is still absent.  WOTS4 is the biggest one on my radar, already imported it for PS3 but might double-dip on a sale because i love Acquire's wacky output. 

i think you're misunderstanding my argument: i'm not saying those things don't/can't sell there, or even that it's a bad market for them.  quite the contrary: they represent one of the largest holes in the steam library right now, and i'm quite supportive of seeing that closed.  but you speak as if japanese pubs are a) knowledgeable of the western scene and b) fuck with PC's much since the 80's, much less always act in a rational manner.  they don't, sadly. 

I'm also not fond of the old buy product (x) to encourage (y) mentality either, personally, but i don't judge others for buying into it.  i'm just inclined to tell say capcom to fuck off when they want me to buy something unrelated to encourage Phoenix Wright localizations. 

Also, XIII isn't a booty game. A butt game is something like Lord of Shadow.

And most of those games you listed that were dumped were mostly western games. Not japanese gsmes. ???

i mean i liked the OST, some of the battle engine was neat, and it had some good moments of characterization around chapters 6-9, but most of what was around that was butt, i thought.  had zero desire to revisit the universe in the following 2 games, and apparently i wasn't alone there.

to the latter: yeah, exactly.  japanese properties licensed to western games, not the ones you'd really want - except in the case of say MGS rising, where obviously it's a good game & we'd like to see more Platinum PC releases.

Whats also interesting is that I believe WOTS4 PC was pushed by it's western handlers, not Japanese. I also want to say that the PC version of Killer is Dead was pushed by Deep Silver. I wonder if we'll see more of that. The small publishers taking the small Japanese games and putting them on PC, because I doubt these small niche developers are going to make a PC version if the western market is'nt their concern. The western market is obviously noteworthy to companies like NB, Konami, Square, and even Sega. Yet in Sega and NB's case only games they've deemed "western" focused get PC versions. We don't see pc versions of Tales or niche Sega stuff. Ace Combat and say Binary Domain though, those were western focused titles.

Which is why I doubt will see things like Persona on PC anytime soon.

pretty much this, yeah - though i wanna be optimistic here like Himu

Why would Sega tell them no and why have ganers not gotten than it is Sammy - not Sega - who owns Atlus?

to what extent do you make this distinction?  they've kinda operated as one for quite a while now, sadly.  ironically, the PC division (relic, etc) has been steady, whereas i'd hoped the Atlus acquisition would prove a strength where they're weak (localizations) but so far it just seems like distribution channels for Atlus.

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« Reply #81 on: September 24, 2014, 02:00:03 AM »
The release of Japan-developed games on Steam has picked up a lot in the past year or so, that's undeniable. Whether it continues or not is a different matter.
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« Reply #82 on: September 24, 2014, 02:10:31 AM »
oh, no doubt - i just mean the particular ones that tickle my balls: katamari, yakuza, certain platinum efforts, etc.  granted, it's not like we're seeing much of some of those even localized on consoles at the moment, either. 

I saw too many of my japanese AA-tier studios close up post ps2/transition to HD, so please believe i'm happy to see any remaining ones thrive on steam, or practically anywhere that's not mobile at the moment. 

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« Reply #83 on: September 24, 2014, 06:17:23 AM »
Battles are the only good thing about 13. I actually welcomed all the farming for the best weapons.

The music was great too! And the battles were more than good, they were pretty awesome... A streamlined, refreshing take on a turn-based battle system. 

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« Reply #84 on: September 24, 2014, 01:15:21 PM »
Yeah, that's true. I forgot about the music being so good. Battle theme is definitely in the top 3.

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« Reply #85 on: September 24, 2014, 07:06:31 PM »
well, shut my mouth:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/315670/

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« Reply #86 on: September 24, 2014, 08:12:27 PM »
raiden v steam :hyper come onnnn
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« Reply #87 on: September 29, 2014, 01:44:29 PM »

No, that's the last thing you should respond with. You're the one who goes all pouty over people NOT liking FF13. I know one or two things about that.
Oh please, I was never pouty and I never attacked people on GAF over the game. I don't know who you were on GAF, but that was not at all how I saw it.  I merely defended a game I liked with my own reasons for which people would call me an idiot or just reply with my tag. I got annoyed very quickly. Besides, I don't even do that anymore. I don't waste my time defending this game because no one cares and you'll just get the same kind of replies regardless. So I just do drivebuy posts to be annoying. There's no point in actually arguing about this game. In general I've been a pretty annoying poster, but it's clear I don't like the bore. Nor am I liked here so there's really no point in me posting in general.

I like having you here, Rahx, but it has been noticeable from the start that you don't like the feel of the bore. If this place isn't doing it for you, why have you stuck around so long?
I don't know. Probably because I can't post on GAF.

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« Reply #88 on: September 30, 2014, 06:54:51 AM »
it's ok buddy, thebore makes me mad about FF all the time too :goty
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« Reply #89 on: October 09, 2014, 02:28:58 AM »
Well hopefully by the time I wake up tomorrow, the 50gig download will be done.

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« Reply #90 on: October 09, 2014, 03:27:41 AM »
It's 60 gigs. Not 50.
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« Reply #91 on: October 09, 2014, 04:01:31 AM »
How much does it actually download? I think Steam only reports the size it will take up on your hard drive upfront.

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« Reply #92 on: October 09, 2014, 04:08:15 AM »
it says 60 gb minimum requirement

thanks a lot weeaboos who wanted japanese voice acting
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« Reply #93 on: October 09, 2014, 04:38:22 AM »
Eventually Steam will get around to asking what languages you want to download up-front. I hope.

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« Reply #94 on: October 09, 2014, 08:52:38 AM »
thanks a lot weeaboos who wanted japanese voice acting

You're welcome. :jawalrus
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« Reply #95 on: October 09, 2014, 10:27:55 AM »
It's 60 gigs. Not 50.
It says 60gigs, but the actual download is 49.4.

Either way, I'm ready.


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« Reply #96 on: October 09, 2014, 10:37:52 AM »
The actual dl is 49? Great!
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« Reply #97 on: October 09, 2014, 01:57:25 PM »
lol 720p resolution and shittier than ps3 cutscenes. and hitting esc quits the game with no confirmation.  :lol

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« Reply #98 on: October 09, 2014, 02:37:53 PM »
lol 720p resolution and shittier than ps3 cutscenes. and hitting esc quits the game with no confirmation.  :lol
Sounds like a dump of the 360 code to me...
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« Reply #99 on: October 09, 2014, 02:44:36 PM »
"Please understand."  :japancry

I thought at least the CG would be uncompressed since it's 60GB, but there are separate movie files for English and Japanese movies because of lip syncing, so even though there's like 50GB of movies, it's really only 25GB worth. GAF peeps said that the movies files took up about 40GB on the PS3.
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« Reply #100 on: October 09, 2014, 02:48:09 PM »
Cool, cant wait for the pages of complaining about this game. Then the next game. Then the next....

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« Reply #101 on: October 09, 2014, 02:56:58 PM »
lol 720p resolution and shittier than ps3 cutscenes. and hitting esc quits the game with no confirmation.  :lol
Called it.

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« Reply #102 on: October 09, 2014, 03:21:36 PM »
Oh well, at least I paid for it with trading card monies so I can pretend it was free. Here's hoping mods pop up eventually.

EDIT: Yep, Durante is already working on a thing.

EDIT Again: http://www.gamersyde.com/thqstream_first_working_run_of_ff13_gedosato_plugin-zqllcqGKENBBKi6p_en.html
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« Reply #103 on: October 09, 2014, 03:46:00 PM »
:lol

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« Reply #104 on: October 09, 2014, 04:07:11 PM »
Game still looks really good at it running in 60fps is pretty great.

It just seems really unstable and I can't get a consistent fps.

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« Reply #105 on: October 09, 2014, 04:39:09 PM »
"Please understand."  :japancry

I thought at least the CG would be uncompressed since it's 60GB, but there are separate movie files for English and Japanese movies because of lip syncing, so even though there's like 50GB of movies, it's really only 25GB worth. GAF peeps said that the movies files took up about 40GB on the PS3.

360 quickie port, then?

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« Reply #106 on: October 09, 2014, 05:06:35 PM »
How is the cg so low quality if the file size is so huge?!

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« Reply #107 on: October 09, 2014, 05:08:28 PM »
How is the cg so low quality if the file size is so huge?!

360 FMV's reran through a shitty codec.

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« Reply #108 on: October 09, 2014, 05:08:40 PM »
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« Reply #109 on: October 09, 2014, 05:09:49 PM »
Jesus Christ.
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« Reply #110 on: October 10, 2014, 02:10:37 PM »
The pre-renderd FMV may not be as pristine as the PS3, but they in no way look as bad as the 360's.

Forcing some aa and whatnot makes an already good looking game look great, but the FPS makes no sense to me. It seems to drop at random bits and hold at 60 at more intensive scenes. Makes no sense and all I wanted was 60 FPS.

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« Reply #111 on: October 10, 2014, 04:40:31 PM »
Yeah, I give up. I'll just replay this on my PS3. My PC apparently can't handle it and fluctuating framerates annoy me too much.

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« Reply #112 on: October 11, 2014, 08:38:24 PM »
Looks good with the Durante thing forcing downsampling 4k to 1080p.
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« Reply #113 on: October 11, 2014, 08:41:50 PM »
Yeah, some of the screens shared by those folks look really good. I'd almost wish for a PS4 version just so it would require Sqaure to do more then dump the game on steam.

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« Reply #114 on: October 11, 2014, 10:40:11 PM »
Yeah, some of the screens shared by those folks look really good. I'd almost wish for a PS4 version just so it would require Sqaure to do more then dump the game on steam.

I wouldn't doubt that Square will eventually dump the FFXIII triology onto the Xbone and PS4.  They already did it with Tomb Raider and Sleeping Dogs.  Something to keep the fans at bay when they hear that FFXV has been postponed to 2017.
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« Reply #115 on: October 11, 2014, 11:35:10 PM »
Yeah, some of the screens shared by those folks look really good. I'd almost wish for a PS4 version just so it would require Sqaure to do more then dump the game on steam.

I wouldn't doubt that Square will eventually dump the FFXIII triology onto the Xbone and PS4.  They already did it with Tomb Raider and Sleeping Dogs.  Something to keep the fans at bay when they hear that FFXV has been postponed to 2017.
At least on the Japanese side, they've done better with thier console ports. So a FFXIII PS4 port would probably have more effort behind it then whatever this steam thing was.

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« Reply #116 on: November 11, 2014, 08:15:32 AM »
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« Reply #117 on: November 11, 2014, 02:50:16 PM »
All time classic my ass.

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« Reply #118 on: November 11, 2014, 02:51:54 PM »
I'll pick up XIII-2 and LN, for sure. Got no interested in XIII, though.
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« Reply #119 on: November 11, 2014, 03:00:26 PM »
13-2 ain't a classic or anything but it's still a good game. I assume this comes with all the dlc too.
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