is there any subgenre of fiction worse than pirate fiction?

[toku]

Niccas sleep on King. His recent output is flabby but dude wrote some stone-cold classics. People just hate because he's popular, he leans on pop culture at times and he has trouble sticking the landing.

I know you said you not interested but the first four Dark Tower books are great. I love Gunslinger and Wizard & Glass especially. It's just the last 3 that suck and even then it's more like, the last 2.5 since a good amount of the fifth book is still quality.

[Van Cruncheon]

zombie fiction remains straight up cac kulturkampf beatoff materials

[Kara]

cac kulturkampf beatoff materials

[thisismyusername]

Nah, with YA I know it's not for me but I still can judge it on merit.

When you're writing for pre-teens who don't how to spell most words and rely on quick fixes like "U" and "R" to get a conversation going I'm pretty comfortable in throwing your entire genre in the bushes

Oh, I'm not calling you out on that. I understand the opinion. It's the hostility toward people that read YA fiction either for their library career or fun that makes me

Some people like the YA genre. Nothing wrong with that. There is a few quality novels there.

[Phoenix Dark]

Nothing wrong with good YA. Katherine Paterson has some good novels.

The Great Gilly Hopkins

[recursivelyenumerable]

i'm reading a Melville story that has pirates in it and it is p. cool

the scar?

Melville not mieville you doof. Benito Cereno

[chronovore]

Westerns apart from stuff like blood meridian are fairly trash, always gotta cram some harlequin romance horseshit in there

Just keep it to rednecks shooting each other, motherfuckers

Crime novels, dawg. Unless it's older Ellroy. I bought Salem's Lot, The Gunslinger, White Jazz and The Alienest today at the dollar book store

I never had much patience for crime fiction/pulp detective novels, but given the general rate of their creation...

Elmore Leonard writes great crime books, and has a number of very good westerns as well. Not much romance (usually none), and a lot of humor and good dialog. Leonard’s western works were mainly to make ends meet, but some of them were so good that they’ve been adapted into movies, some more than once.

[chronovore]

That Goodreads.com list only has 11 books on it. Not like 18 pages of results for gawddamned vampire fiction, and all these women detectives and their powerful vamp boyfriends. Jesus, what a load of Harlequin-esque bullshit.

And on that list is Tim Powers’ On Stranger Tides, which you chumps should read before fanning yourselves about how pirate fiction is always so crappy. Get on it, sons.

[Eel O'Brian]

Elmore Leonard has been around since the classic era I was referring to, wasn't counting him. I wasn't very clear, though. I'm mainly talking about modern stuff like you'd only find as ebooks in the Kindle store. Also, of course I am generalizing, and actually love stuff like Salem's Lot. Generalized complaints are an old Bore tradition

[Howard Alan Treesong]

i'm reading a Melville story that has pirates in it and it is p. cool

the scar?

Melville not mieville you doof. Benito Cereno

what a wonderful phrase

[Phoenix Dark]

That Goodreads.com list only has 11 books on it. Not like 18 pages of results for gawddamned vampire fiction, and all these women detectives and their powerful vamp boyfriends. Jesus, what a load of Harlequin-esque bullshit.

And on that list is Tim Powers’ On Stranger Tides, which you chumps should read before fanning yourselves about how pirate fiction is always so crappy. Get on it, sons.

leper anyone who hasn't read some Tim Powers.


Speaking of which has anyone read Declare? I heard it's really good.

[Kara]

idk who Tim Powers is but I went to his Wikipedia page and there was a picture of people LARP sword fighting.

Think I'm good never touching anything he ever wrote.

[Joe Molotov]

idk who Tim Powers is but I went to his Wikipedia page and there was a picture of people LARP sword fighting.

Think I'm good never touching anything he ever wrote.

Based on a picture of some fake sword fighting, you just gonna ignore

The Anubis Gates (1983)
    Philip K. Dick Award winner, 1983;[5] Locus Fantasy Award nominee, 1984;[6] BSFA nominee, 1985 [7]
    A time travel story set mostly in 1810, featuring a brainwashed Lord Byron, magic, Egyptian gods and a werewolf.

Kara pls

[Kara]

holy shit

[Steve Contra]

Tim Powers is ok, but he desperately needs an editor for most of his stuff.

[Human Snorenado]

Tim Powers is ok, but he desperately needs an editor for most of his stuff.

So he has something in common with George RR Martin then

[El Babua]

Hey bro, trust me, all that stuff you found boring in AFFC and ADWD will pay off in a decade or two.

[jakefromstatefarm]

I fuxed w/ the Iron Islands chapters in AFFC [spoiler, whatever, fuck you]

shit was slow but that's my fondest memory from Feast

[El Babua]

I fuxed w/ the Iron Islands chapters in AFFC [spoiler, whatever, fuck you]

shit was slow but that's my fondest memory from Feast

Honestly thought only the Mereen chapters were overbearing to the point where I wanted to toss the book to the bushes. Still, various treks taken by characters could have been cut by a lot.

[Phoenix Dark]

I don't defend Meereen, although it's better on the second reading. I get the point of it but I think Martin settled on the wrong solution to the Knot issue. Originally her first ADWD chapter was the wedding, and Quentyn would crash it before getting rejected. Second chapter was Daznak's Pit which I'm pretty sure everyone agrees is an amazing chapter.

I'll always defend ADWD. The main complaint revolves around Dany (and Tyrion). I liked Tyrion's chapters. Most people liked the northern chapters, they were pretty damn awesome and set up the two most interesting arcs for TWOW in my opinion (the ice battle and the journey to Skagos).

"The north remembers, and the mummer's farce is almost done. My son is home.”

[chronovore]

GRRM bullshit thread is :THATAWAY
 

This thread is about complaining or defending pirate fiction.

Arrrrrr...