It's 20XX and people are mad online about Star War!

[Tasty]

Saw it.

Was entertaining enough and I had fun.

Nerds gotta dissect the shit out of it though I guess.

[Atramental]

Saw that yesterday and I died laughing when they got to the "budget cuts".   

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I lost it at "The newly-renamed Emperor Palpatine Surgical Reconstruction Center"

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That was pretty great as well.

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I lost it at "The newly-renamed Emperor Palpatine Surgical Reconstruction Center"

Just got around to watching it, omg, why...

Like a real politician Palpatine didn't fund it well too lmao

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[Phoenix Dark]

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so I was rewatching ANH earlier today and it really just did so much better getting you up to date with what's been going down in their world and the whole politics side. TFA copied a lot from ANH, but maybe not the right parts. it's not that hard get the audience current without a bunch of shitty exposition either.

I still like TFA and I think I'll like it more on second viewing, but it left a bit too much to be desired.

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ANH? The movie where the main characters just happen to find the bad guys lair out of sheer luck that happens to house the princess they're looking for? That felt large?

[brawndolicious]

A New Hope felt like an old (poorly aged) movie when I saw it so I gave it a pass for not explaining to us why there's a princess fighting a dude in a cape since it was just a really cool and fun world.

ANH? The movie where the main characters just happen to find the bad guys lair out of sheer luck that happens to house the princess they're looking for? That felt large?

Luke fiddles with R2 and he accidentally poops out the top secret encrypted message that says "go to Alderaan to save the world fuckboys" so since he's all turned on and his aunt/uncle are dead he grabs Solo and they head to Alderaan but they get there a little late and the Death Star grabs them right there. It's not brilliant writing but it explains everything.

[Mandark]

so I was rewatching ANH earlier today and it really just did so much better getting you up to date with what's been going down in their world and the whole politics side.

I don't think that's really true.  The politics in ANH are so simple and archetypical (big evil empire vs. small good resistance) that they didn't demand as much explaining.  "The senate is dissolved, control will be given to the regional governors" isn't terribly illuminating, but did the audience even need that much?

Plus we were all like seven years old.

[brawndolicious]

Yeah I remember being confused as a kid why Princess Leia was fighting the emperor who was probably her dad or something. They didn't really explain that royalty stuff too well in the original trilogy but the second trilogy showed that her mom was the youngest democratically elected queen of Naboo and her adoptive father was a senator which explained everything.

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A New Hope felt like an old (poorly aged) movie when I saw it so I gave it a pass for not explaining to us why there's a princess fighting a dude in a cape since it was just a really cool and fun world.

ANH? The movie where the main characters just happen to find the bad guys lair out of sheer luck that happens to house the princess they're looking for? That felt large?

Luke fiddles with R2 and he accidentally poops out the top secret encrypted message that says "go to Alderaan to save the world fuckboys" so since he's all turned on and his aunt/uncle are dead he grabs Solo and they head to Alderaan but they get there a little late and the Death Star grabs them right there. It's not brilliant writing but it explains everything.

I didn't say it didn't explain everything.

Everything is explained but saying the scope is large? ANH feels like a cramped universe where everything is a coincidence. I'm not seeing how it's more large or feels more large than TFA.

And yeah, like I argued a few pages back, I was 11 when I watched that movie. So we have different expectations as adults but the reality is that Jack and shit have changed. Except our standards.

Yeah I remember being confused as a kid why Princess Leia was fighting the emperor who was probably her dad or something. They didn't really explain that royalty stuff too well in the original trilogy but the second trilogy showed that her mom was the youngest democratically elected queen of Naboo and her adoptive father was a senator which explained everything.

I didn't understand how Leia is a princess when her father isn't a king. If the emperor is the emperor how is she a princess?

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mods help, https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/3zglnb/star_wars_fans_that_didnt_like_the_force_awakens/

1000+ odd comments there. not sure you'll be able to set them all straight but i'm sure you'll give it a go.

have fun mate.

[CatsCatsCats]

Her adoptive father was king, of Alderaan.

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mods help, https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/3zglnb/star_wars_fans_that_didnt_like_the_force_awakens/

1000+ odd comments there. not sure you'll be able to set them all straight but i'm sure you'll give it a go.

have fun mate.

It's not that serious. You seem to be taking it more seriously than me, mate.

[Tasty]

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/01/04/star-wars-monopoly-game-criticized-wheres-rey

Trigger warning for mods help

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It is pretty dumb and bad. What am I to say exactly?

[Cerveza mas fina]

Is Maz that little alien? Agree 100% there Wrath. No connection with her

[toku]

Got the chance to see it again with my lil bro this time. He liked it and his opinion almost exactly mirrors mine in that he likes it but he's not sure yet. It's also growing on him more as he thinks about just like it happened with me. 

For me, I liked it more. Mostly because I started noticing more potential in it. Specifically Kylo Ren, I like that he's a dweeb a little more now(even though I still find it kinda grating) but it feels like a lot of it could be elevated or drop down here by the sequels. I still really like the movie, but if the sequel somehow fucks up it will most definitely take this movie down a few pegs. I trust in Johnson so I'm not worried, hell I'm mostly excited at the possibilities we were left with.

The only real weak points to me this go around is Leia's delivery, but it doesn't bother me as much this time around. The weakest part was honestly Maz or whatever her name is. She's just meh.

I still get the ANH similarities thing but I started to think it was more of a remix of the first two in the OT with its own flavor. I'm still really happy with it. Great movie.

My big hope for Ren going forward is they play up that even though he's had more training than say Rey, he just really lacks a lot of discipline maybe even less than other "knights of ren." A good contrast for rey this way since she spent all that time alone surviving she's much more tempered than he is. You can see that a little in FA imo, like when she doesn't accept the food bribe for the droid and later when she politely turns down Han's offer even though she wants it. I hope the humbling he got at the end of the movie opens them up to show him getting more training alongside Rey's training. That'd be cool.

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i think that's what we're probably going to get: two students growing at the same time. shit sounds exciting.

and fuck maz. waste of lupita.

[brawndolicious]

Her adoptive father was king, of Alderaan.

Are the Alderaanian  kings democratically elected? And why might an Alderaanite be allowed to hold two positions? He might have the power to gerrymander the Alderaaner vote.

[chronovore]

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-george-awakens

It's a pretty good, concise evaluation, overall!

[Human Snorenado]

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-george-awakens

It's a pretty good, concise evaluation, overall!

It's a load of butt tonguing horseshit is what it is.

Lucas is a butthurt turdburglar, he was never a good director, and any- ANY- attempt to lessen the crime that those cinematic abortion prequels committed can be ignored out of hand. Article is complete dreck, and it's no coincidence that two of the writers it cites as being favorable towards Lucas after TFA are Suderman and Douthat, a moron libertopian and a moron conservative.

I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. Good day, sir.

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rofl at George bigging himself up over the editing in the old star wars films like Marcia was erased from the world at their divorce

[Human Snorenado]

Nearly on par with GRRM's recent output, even

[Mandark]

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-george-awakens

It's a pretty good, concise evaluation, overall!

Shorter version: People gave Lucas a lot of shit cause of the prequels, but what if they didn't count?  Then he's looking pretty good, huh?

[chronovore]

Yeah, I take it as "he was a visionary filmmaker and JJ's tribute emphasized this." No-one needs those shit Prequels though.

[Human Snorenado]

I honestly don't think he's a very good director. I'd probably rate his films ANH>THX>AG. I honestly don't like American Graffiti like, at all.

[Stoney Mason]

I've always been on the side of George Lucas was a great director who basically stopped working on his craft after Jedi and the later part of his career is directly the result of that. He also seemed to lose that ability to understand critical evaluation of his work from outside sources. It all seemed like one giant bubble.

There are a lot of narratives rolling around with the relaunch of Star Wars and everybody seems to be spinning their particular angle very hard.

The most dominant one seems to be that Lucas was a visionary and JJ is just an imitator with nothing new to really add other than rehashing the nostalgia which corresponds to the new film and the old films While that is overly simplistic at best I get the small-ish nugget of truth in it. JJ is no kubrick or maverick filmmaker. But maybe new Star Wars would have always felt like a rebooting of the themes and tones of the old movies. You also can't ignore the fact that it had to be that way. Lucas so fucked it that this had to be this kind of film to clean the slate. And its also pretty lame to knock a good movie like the Force Awakens with "its all rehashed shit". That's too simplistic too. 

People are too close to it right now. Give it 5 years or so especially after the next movie and more intelligent analysis of the whole thing with some hindsight will be better served.

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[toku]

They just look sorta similar. I think Snoke is something new and definitely not sith. At least not in the way we know sith to be.

[chronovore]

The best theory I've heard so far is the Grand Inquisitor from the REBELS tv show.

[Great Rumbler]

I have a ton of respect for young George Lucas and what he accomplished in his early career: THX-1138, American Graffiti, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, legitimizing space opera and kick starting a brand-new wave of science fiction. But let's get real, the best thing he's done for the Star Wars franchise in nearly 30 years is selling it off to somebody else. The awfulness of ANH's special edition, the cinematic abortion that was the PT, and his role in dragging down the Indiana Jones franchise, as well, aren't things that just go away.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

I honestly don't think he's a very good director. I'd probably rate his films ANH>THX>AG. I honestly don't like American Graffiti like, at all.

Dude's imagination got him a few billion dollars. Your imagination got you a wet dream.

 

[Am_I_Anonymous]

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Okay so after he turned to help Luke he decided to turn back and be a bad guy again? Nah I ain't buying it.

[CatsCatsCats]

Midichlorian symbiote born of Vader's suit, duh

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Midichlorian symbiote born of Vader's suit, duh

Star wars can't even build a fucking transporter or a machine that can cobble earl grey out of matter. C'mon man.

[CatsCatsCats]

Yeah but it's Disney now, so is marvel, clearly venom got all up in Vader's suit, how aren't you following?

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Yeah but it's Disney now, so is marvel, clearly venom got all up in Vader's suit, how aren't you following?

Just force pour him into space. Problem solved.

[Tasty]

Yeah but it's Disney now, so is marvel, clearly venom got all up in Vader's suit, how aren't you following?

Darn you wimmin and blacks, always blowin up my death stars!!

[Great Rumbler]

TFA just passed Avatar at the domestic box office, on a normal weekday where it made $6 million.

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it's definitely vader

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Those scars aren't even in the same place.

[Phoenix Dark]

if that's true 

[CatsCatsCats]

But ghost anakin 

Still haven't seen this

[Great Rumbler]

if that's true 

We're talking about Star Wars fan speculation here, the same group of people who gave serious consideration to the idea that Jar Jar Binks was actually a sith lord.

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if that's true 

We're talking about Star Wars fan speculation here, the same group of people who gave serious consideration to the idea that Jar Jar Binks was actually a sith lord.

Wait they were serious about that? I thought it was a meme.

[Tasty]

if that's true 

We're talking about Star Wars fan speculation here, the same group of people who gave serious consideration to the idea that Jar Jar Binks was actually a sith lord.

Wait they were serious about that? I thought it was a meme.

It was. Then people took it seriously.

"It was George's plan all along!" "So THAT'S who 'the phantom menace' is!" "Even the mocap actor confirms it!"

[Joe Molotov]

It's pretty obvious that Supreme Leader Snoke is Gollum. It looks just like him!

[Phoenix Dark]

The twist is that Luke is an undercover Sith who will turn Rey to the dark side. Meanwhile Kylo will continue to struggle with his feelings and turn good, barely escaping Snoke's lair alive. Rey kills Poe to complete her training. Emotions get in the way as she tries to kill Finn, then Kylo saves him at the last minute. The movie ends with Kylo being imprisoned by the rebellion as Finn tries to vouch for him.

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Read this, guys.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/matty-granger/at-long-lastmy-star-wars-episode-vii-review-the-force-awakens-the-rise-of-idiot-/10153163095086277

[Mandark]

that's someone fisking a listicle

it's a fucking fisticle

[Human Snorenado]

Mandark's insane hatred of fisking

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that's someone fisking a listicle

it's a fucking fisticle

It's pretty good though.

4. Rey becomes nearly as effective a Force-user in a few hours as Luke Skywalker did in a few years.


Yeah.  Makes you wonder why doesn’t it?  Kinda feels like we’re being set up for something in the future.  I wonder if we’ll ever find out about her mysterious past and her mystical connection to the Force and Luke Skywalker?  If you don’t understand that this is set-up for future films, then you should have your Netflix password taken away from you.

[Tasty]

Read this, guys.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/matty-granger/at-long-lastmy-star-wars-episode-vii-review-the-force-awakens-the-rise-of-idiot-/10153163095086277

Well, I've waited a few weeks to write my “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” review and finally, after multiple viewings and numerous vibrant discussions, I feel that I’m ready to give this movie the review it truly deserves.

No one cares, shut up.

Fuck I hate anything written that starts with this. Go bury the lede up your ass next time instead and save us the trouble (though it'll be hard with your head already occupying that space.)

[Phoenix Dark]

My parents LOVED the movie. Whereas two of my brothers and myself basically had the same meh response.

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