So Konami is scrubbing Hideo Kojima's name off all his games?

[AdmiralViscen]

ruh roh

http://www.vg247.com/2015/03/19/konami-responds-to-rumors-pertaining-to-hideo-kojima-exit/

[Positive Touch]

link us ya nurb

[I'm a Puppy!]

Just saw the news. Looks as hopeful as movie studios moving releases of movies to February. 

[T-Short]

KojiPro dead as well, seems so

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Who gives a shit? Metal Gear has been complete shit for the last few games anyway.

[Positive Touch]

true but they were the last staff that was working on games at Konami, right? they gonna exit the industry after this?

[Purple Filth]

Who gives a shit? Metal Gear has been complete shit for the last few games anyway.

they were raking in bank though along with PES (but that already seems dead) so it should be interesting to see this unfold

[AdmiralViscen]

MGS4 is the only bad one

[Bebpo]

Sounds like MGSV is done (like rumors suggested) and Kojima put his foot down about him being done with the series and ready to move on.

To which, I'm sure Konami said "lol, no" and so Kojima finally finally said fuck you guys I'm outta here and quit, and now Konami is being pissy and removing all Kojima's prestige titles to get back at him since the company is about to go down in flames with Kojima gone.


I'm fine with no more mgs, TPP will probably be awesome and it likely brings the story full cycle and the only thing left after it would be MG1&2 modern remakes, but they'll do that without Kojima and they'll probably suck.

[kick51]

MGS4 is the only bad one

i wasn't fond of Peace Walker or Portable Ops either. 


either way, this sucks!  on the plus side, Phantom Pain should be huge and ridiculously replayable.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Peace walker was "ehhhh...." at best.

Portable ops was actually rather fun, but I feel the control scheme did not fit well on a hand held.

[Bebpo]

Peace Walker story was shit, but the gameplay was good fun.  Portable Ops gameplay was kind of weak because of the controls and PSP limits, but the story was enjoyable.

[cool breeze]

peace walker is fine for a handheld game played in small chunks (aside from the lame boss battles).  it got rid of most detail and experimentation in gameplay to make a very streamlined and simplified version of metal gear.

ground zeroes is good fun and phantom pain building off it is great, but I'm still disappointed we never got a full game made with MGS4 gameplay.

[demi]

as the #1 kojima fan i will list the best metal gear games

number one

metal gear acid

number two

metal gear acid 2

number three

metal gear solid ghost babel


thats it! enjoy the best metal gear games out now.

[mormapope]

I share the same sentiment that any longtime MGS fan shares, MGS4 was colossal turd that dampened my enjoyment of the franchise. But after Rising, Ground Zeroes, the HD collection, I fell back in love with the franchise. MGSV is looking like a great note to end on, for mainline Metal Gear Solid to end on.

Kojima without Konami will probably be interesting as fuck.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Yeah....K

I liked the one for nintendo (not the second one), the one for PS2 (not the other ones) and that's it.

The story is this game is so goddamn confusing as this point you'd think it was written by Tommy Wiseau.

[mormapope]

MGS stories as a whole are convoluted and melodramatic as fuck, doesn't mean they aren't fun to follow or the themes/ideas aren't neatly executed.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

MGS stories as a whole are convoluted and melodramatic as fuck, doesn't mean they aren't fun to follow or the themes/ideas aren't neatly executed.

I've seen better story lines executed on Saved by the Bell, dude.

[bork]

Holy shit.

    A fallout between Kojima Productions and its owning publisher, Konami, has led to senior staff at the studio being restricted access to corporate internet, emails, and phone, GameSpot understands.

    Along with the restricted communications, key developers at the studio, such as Hideo Kojima, will now have limited opportunities to lend their appearance to promotions of the studio’s upcoming game, Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain. Power struggles between Kojima Productions and Konami have led the publisher to make drastic changes, including the employee status of its Metal Gear team. Some senior staff at the studio, including Kojima, now essentially work as contractors, not permanent employees.

    The extraordinary measures were revealed by a source within the studio, speaking to GameSpot on the condition of anonymity. The person explained that, once the Phantom Pain project is finished, in all likelihood the management at the studio will disband.

    "After we finish MGSV, Mr. Kojima and upper management will leave Konami. They said their contract ends in December," the source claimed.

    The person added: "At a team meeting, Mr Kojima explained that team have to be one and make a good game for fans."

So I guess this will be it for Konami.  I mean, what do they have left?  Even key members behind Love Plus quit.

[Take My Breh Away]

Who gives a shit? Metal Gear has been complete shit for the last few games anyway.

they were raking in bank though along with PES (but that already seems dead) so it should be interesting to see this unfold

PES 15 was an absolute clusterfuck where the PS4 version had massive framerate issues. The xbone version was 720P  and the PC version was the last gen version mixed with the new gen because "reasons". The "next gen" versions were also looking worse than FIFA 15 and it bombed even in Europe.

The entire state of that product

Accepting any other football games in your life other than Sensible Soccer

[Bebpo]

Of course.  Kojima runs the studio and is a cool and extremely talented guy.  When he leaves, everyone with half a brain at the company is going with him.  Konami game division is super fucked, who knows if Silent Hills will still come out even.  Might get canned like the last Del Toro game "Insane" when THQ died.


Good news being that if Kojima isn't ready to retire on a beach sipping margeritas for the rest of his life and still wants to make games, just not MGS, he should have plenty of funds and tons of good fellow staff and connections to make games with.  So it's possible we get something cool out of this as gamers and it's a win win for everyone (except MGS fans but there's been enough MGS games by now that are highly replayable so just replay those every few years, and Silent Hill fans but they're used to getting shit on all the time anyhow; remember Book of Memories?).

[Cerveza mas fina]

I dont like mgs, but if koijma leaves konami they are dead

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Wonder if EA will buy the castlevania IP so they can bumble fuck it into oblivion.

[bork]

Kojima should join Platinum Games.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Sony will prob set him up

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Sony will prob set him up

Nah, that makes too much sense. He'll land at some xbox studio, watch.

[suppadoopa]

Thank God Kojima is bouncing out. It's not up to him to prop up Konami.

Konami is officially a PES dispenser now

[Cerveza mas fina]

Snatcher 2 on Morpheus

Do it

[mormapope]

Kojima should join Platinum Games.

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He would definitely bring something different to their portfolio.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Thank God Kojima is bouncing out. It's not up to him to prop up Konami.

Konami is officially a PES dispenser now

Konami, in it's current form, won't be around by 2017.

Look forward to the new mobile future.

[bork]

Konami, in it's current form, won't be around by 2017.

I would say so given that their current form is "that company who publishes Hideo's Metal Gear games."

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Konami, in it's current form, won't be around by 2017.

I would say so given that their current form is "that company who publishes Hideo's Metal Gear games."

What I mean is that they won't be publishing shit for current gen or PC that's new. It'll be best of collections and mobilevanias from here on out.

[mormapope]

Castlevania is deader than dead, you'd think they would release shitty mobile games, but they aren't doing that even. Lords of Shadow 2 killed their chubb completely.

[suppadoopa]

Konami, in it's current form, won't be around by 2017.

Eh maybe as game company, but they still have their Health and Gambling business to fall back too

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Castlevania is deader than dead, you'd think they would release shitty mobile games, but they aren't doing that even. Lords of Shadow 2 killed their chubb completely.

But I so look forward to Castevania Rondo of the Index Finger on my Galaxy bro!

[kick51]

Kojima should join Platinum Games.

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[archie4208]

Doesn't Konami make bank via Yu Gi Oh cards?

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Doesn't Konami make bank via Yu Gi Oh cards?

Nobody is saying Konami is broke or struggling. We're saying their gaming division is about done dude.

[Bebpo]

I'd be surprised if he worked for anyone else.  Dude has to be pretty baller at this point (he was the CEO of the game division for a while wasn't he?), he's got his team & friends, and he could probably get some financial investors to back him opening an independent studio with self-publishing.  At most I can see him teaming with a publisher for physical copy production and sales whatever his new studio makes.

Or he could go to Platinum and hang with them while they either go bankrupt again or become a Legend of Korra style pump out licensed games studio.

[AdmiralViscen]

I was looking forward to MGS5 multiplayer but I guess we can't expect any support for that after launch. 

[mormapope]

No matter where Kojima goes, MGS fans are sure to follow. Him going to Platinum means Platinum will get more console exclusive contracts up the ass potentially. Same goes for any studio that wants him/is willing to pay for him and his team.

"From the Creator of Metal Gear Solid" alone is enough for Sony/Microsoft to shit themselves with glee.

[Bebpo]

Castlevania is deader than dead, you'd think they would release shitty mobile games, but they aren't doing that even. Lords of Shadow 2 killed their chubb completely.

Yeah, I really think this is going to kill the new Silent Hill completely.  Shame, as a fan of the series whose still sticking there through every new entry with a new developer that ends up being mediocre, was looking forward to a Japan develop SH again.

[Purple Filth]

Doesn't Konami make bank via Yu Gi Oh cards?

Yea.

it seems the gaming section is now fucked rather than Konami on a whole

[Bebpo]

No matter where Kojima goes, MGS fans are sure to follow. Him going to Platinum means Platinum will get more console exclusive contracts up the ass potentially. Same goes for any studio that wants him/is willing to pay for him and his team.

"From the Creator of Metal Gear Solid" alone is enough for Sony/Microsoft to shit themselves with glee.

To be fair, while I have mad respect for the guy and he's probably my favorite game designer in the industry, "From the Creator of Metal Gear Solid" failed twice already with Boktai and ZoE.  Not really sure how much weight his name will carry outside MGS. 

Man, I forgot about ZoE3.  That really sucked when he wanted to go forward with it and kept pushing but Konami wouldn't greenlight it.

[mormapope]

Yeah, I really think this is going to kill the new Silent Hill completely.  Shame, as a fan of the series whose still sticking there through every new entry with a new developer that ends up being mediocre, was looking forward to a Japan develop SH again.

All the goodwill that free demo caused instantly vanishing is pretty fucked up. It was an internet sensation, people that weren't Silent Hill fans before were excited by something related to Silent Hill.

[Bebpo]

Yes, all that goodwill and internet sensation of P.T. may be the only thing that saves it as Konami might feel it's worth funding with whoever they can get since it could be a hit because of P.T.'s reception.  But it's still a gamble and quite ironically (since they make most of their money from Pachinko) Konami doesn't like to gamble on games.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Ya know, I don't know nearly as much about the guy as you all do but it seems as if the last 10 years of his career pretty much went like this:


HK  "I think we should make X, I think the fans will enjoy it"

Konami  "No"

HK  "I think we've milked MG for long enough, let's build a new IP"

Konami "no"

HK  "I need more time to complete X"

Konami "no"

No wonder the fucking guy wants out.

[mormapope]

To be fair, while I have mad respect for the guy and he's probably my favorite game designer in the industry, "From the Creator of Metal Gear Solid" failed twice already with Boktai and ZoE.  Not really sure how much weight his name will carry outside MGS. 

Man, I forgot about ZoE3.  That really sucked when he wanted to go forward with it and kept pushing but Konami wouldn't greenlight it.

True, but the game environment now is completely different. Nintendo was willing to pay for Bayonetta 2 just cause, something to add to their dire library. Microsoft is paying for Scalebound, while Hideki Kamiya's previous game The Wonderful 101 bombed.

If anything Kojima's legacy has grown since ZoE and Boktai, he's a bigger name now than then.

[bork]

Castlevania is deader than dead, you'd think they would release shitty mobile games, but they aren't doing that even. Lords of Shadow 2 killed their chubb completely.

Yeah, what are you talking about AIA?  They haven't made an actual Metroidvania in like seven years now.   

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Castlevania is deader than dead, you'd think they would release shitty mobile games, but they aren't doing that even. Lords of Shadow 2 killed their chubb completely.

Yeah, what are you talking about AIA?  They haven't made an actual Metroidvania in like seven years now.   

Shows how much I keep up 

[Mr. Gundam]

true but they were the last staff that was working on games at Konami, right? they gonna exit the industry after this?

Konami has their Japan-only baseball games, which are actually really good.

[Positive Touch]

are they developed internally or contracted out?

even if Konami gives up on gaming, I really really hope they'll come up with a way to rerelease their older games. that have shittons of classics and it'd be nice to have an easy way to play them. even if my dream of a collection of all the old castlevania games will never happen.

[Rman]

Oscar was right, guys.

[Mr. Gundam]

are they developed internally or contracted out?

even if Konami gives up on gaming, I really really hope they'll come up with a way to rerelease their older games. that have shittons of classics and it'd be nice to have an easy way to play them. even if my dream of a collection of all the old castlevania games will never happen.

The PowerPro team is internal.

[bork]

Is there another Japanese company that has 'fallen' as hard as Konami has?  It's like they literally have nothing but Metal Gear at this point.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Kojima strikes me as a very bad manager.
Like I was watching an interview about MGS 4 and he said that it was a 100+ person team but sometimes it felt like him against a 100+ person team.
When I heard that I was like "Oh, so that's why it went wrong. He can't manage. Makes sense"

[Takao]

I don't think I've ever seen a company lose as much key staff as Konami has in the past couple of years. The management at that company has to be extremely fucked.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Take game developers and think they can manage huge teams brehs.

[Rman]

Kojima strikes me as a very bad manager.
Like I was watching an interview about MGS 4 and he said that it was a 100+ person team but sometimes it felt like him against a 100+ person team.
When I heard that I was like "Oh, so that's why it went wrong. He can't manage. Makes sense"

Auteurs tend to be bad managers.  It's why in Hollywood, great directors usually are paired with great producers.

[SantaC]

Is there another Japanese company that has 'fallen' as hard as Konami has?  It's like they literally have nothing but Metal Gear at this point.

Konami will be better without Kojima.