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Re: So Konami is scrubbing Hideo Kojima's name off all his games?
« Reply #60 on: March 19, 2015, 04:43:42 PM »
Is there another Japanese company that has 'fallen' as hard as Konami has?  It's like they literally have nothing but Metal Gear at this point.

Konami will be better without Kojima.

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« Reply #61 on: March 19, 2015, 04:47:42 PM »
MGS4 is the only bad one

Eh, Portable Ops as well. Otherwise MGS1-3, 5 were decent.

Is there another Japanese company that has 'fallen' as hard as Konami has?  It's like they literally have nothing but Metal Gear at this point.

Konami will be better without Kojima.

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Re: So Konami is scrubbing Hideo Kojima's name off all his games?
« Reply #62 on: March 19, 2015, 04:55:15 PM »
Is there another Japanese company that has 'fallen' as hard as Konami has?  It's like they literally have nothing but Metal Gear at this point.

Konami will be better without Kojima.
Holy hell.
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« Reply #63 on: March 19, 2015, 06:10:21 PM »
well you know, maybe Konami will actually try now and not have Kojima stick his nose in every konami game?

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« Reply #64 on: March 19, 2015, 06:13:45 PM »
I don't doubt that Kojima was a bad/inefficient manager, but the one time kojipro tried to make a game without him managing it they had to give it to someone else to pull something worth publishing out of it. :heh

Hope this is the push Konami needs to just pull the plug on all their internal development and start contracting the shit out of their huge vault of IPs.

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« Reply #65 on: March 19, 2015, 06:14:01 PM »
well you know, maybe Konami will actually try now and not have Kojima stick his nose in every konami game?
Or exit console gaming altogether. If that's what you count as better off then fair enough.

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« Reply #66 on: March 19, 2015, 06:14:29 PM »
well you know, maybe Konami will actually try now and not have Kojima stick his nose in every konami game?

or, you know, maybe konami will stop making console/handheld games entirely once kojima is gone

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« Reply #67 on: March 19, 2015, 06:28:50 PM »
well you know, maybe Konami will actually try now and not have Kojima stick his nose in every konami game?

or, you know, maybe konami will stop making console/handheld games entirely once kojima is gone

I doubt it. What's so great about Kojima anyway? MGS4 was a massive disappointment.

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« Reply #68 on: March 19, 2015, 06:31:16 PM »
They sell.

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« Reply #69 on: March 19, 2015, 06:32:29 PM »
What else does konami Have that's equivalent?
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« Reply #70 on: March 19, 2015, 06:36:31 PM »
they'll hire some western scum to make P.T.

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« Reply #71 on: March 19, 2015, 06:37:46 PM »
What else does konami Have that's equivalent?

they have lots of potential IPs lying around that they dont do jack shit with. Actually trying would be some progress.

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« Reply #72 on: March 19, 2015, 06:43:15 PM »
people loved the silent hills and suikodens made by teams that had little to do with the original games
i'm sure metal gear will be okay

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« Reply #73 on: March 19, 2015, 06:47:10 PM »
SantaC your hate boner for Kojima and MGS is clearly clouding your thought process. Konami is a fucking joke, Kojima was promoted throughout the years and essentially the public face for Konami. He probably begged Konami to release Rising and Ground Zeroes/MGS V on PC, since he was the CEO of digital distribution. The engine his team worked on is used for a soccer game that gets trumped by FIFA every year, and nothing else, because Konami was lobotomized some time ago.

Sticking his nose in Silent Hill? Yeah, because that series hasn't been dragged through pig shit. Konami will probably be better without him because they're bowing out of gaming, they'll become a health/gambling company completely. Lets not pretend though that Kojima and his colleuges haven't carried Konami's desolate ass when it comes to games.
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Re: So Konami is scrubbing Hideo Kojima's name off all his games?
« Reply #74 on: March 19, 2015, 08:17:28 PM »
as said before in thread, health/fitness and gambling future I guess. there is a Contra slot machine now lol.

I am most bummed about Silent Hills tbh. had guarded hopes on that one. Konami has been pretty trash on the gaming front since PS2 honestly. soo many IP's they could farm out (Hudson stuff as well). Kind of a shame, but they aren't the only ones...

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Re: So Konami is scrubbing Hideo Kojima's name off all his games?
« Reply #75 on: March 19, 2015, 08:17:46 PM »
Sticking his nose in Silent Hill? Yeah, because that series hasn't been dragged through pig shit. Konami will probably be better without him because they're bowing out of gaming, they'll become a health/gambling company completely. Lets not pretend though that Kojima and his colleuges haven't carried Konami's desolate ass when it comes to games.

And this is why I laugh at SantaC. Kojima is literally the only thing carrying Konami around and they knew it. Now they're going to go into death flailing eventually.

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« Reply #76 on: March 19, 2015, 08:36:35 PM »
Well I don't know how to feel about this.

Looking at the MGS angle, well I'm kind of happy. MGS has been garbage since three. 4, PO, and PW. All shit! 5 seems solid as a game, but the mystique of the series is gone and damaged. Though 5 also seems to be lacking. So the idea of there being no more Kojima MGS is somewhat exciting. I'd rather MGS just end and I feel Kojima should have stopped a while ago. So closing the book on that saga is past over due. Yet, I know we'd at least get another game as Konami is'nt going to let it just die. They'll beat and whore it around like SH. Yet, I do believe they'll be willing to spend some actual money on it. So a new team making a non Kojima MGS reboot has the chance of being freash and diffrent. Yet, also terrible. It's exciting anyway.

Yet while I think most Kojima games have sucked for awhile. This still means no Silent Hill and for sure no Zone of the Enders from him. I've wanted him to do non MGS stuff and working on other Konami projects would be the next best thing. SHs sounded like an interesting project. It will probably just get canceled.

Though I'm sure he will have no problem getting someone to fund a new studio he could create.

And really if Konami stops making games. I wouldn't notice. They don't do shit as it is. Any hope that the Fox Engine would light a fire in them has hardly shown it self and if the rumors are true then that's all but extinguished.

So I guess I kind of feel a big meh about this.

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« Reply #77 on: March 19, 2015, 10:50:32 PM »
Japanese development takes another loss.
non-indie game autership takes another loss.
Konami keeps finding new ways to screw the pooch.

this is all bad, even if you don't like Kojima.  Konami just giving up as a traditional game maker is not good.

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« Reply #78 on: March 19, 2015, 10:54:19 PM »
Japanese development takes another loss.
non-indie game autership takes another loss.
Konami keeps finding new ways to screw the pooch.

this is all bad, even if you don't like Kojima.  Konami just giving up as a traditional game maker is not good.

Or you see it as a good thing because all the talent is leaving and can do what they want independently now instead of forced to keep making solely MGS games.

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« Reply #79 on: March 19, 2015, 11:00:10 PM »
what about those of us who don't particularly care about what Kojima will do but are sad bc Konami will sit on all their old properties and let them fade away
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« Reply #80 on: March 19, 2015, 11:09:08 PM »
They were going to do that with or without Kojima.

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« Reply #81 on: March 19, 2015, 11:14:25 PM »
but teh memories
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« Reply #82 on: March 19, 2015, 11:23:45 PM »
I'm sure the soon to be Konami talent exodus will eventually create the seeds for some great indie stuff down the line.  Hell, frigging Treasure had the same origin over two decades ago.

I'm bummed because Konami is one of the few JPN publisher who could, but apparently won't even try to compete for a global audience anymore.  They're endemic of the waning Japanese development scene, and they didn't have to be.  Namco was sliding down this path themselves and have taken steps to right the ship, they're still relevant, even if they aren't making games that effortlessly sell millions around the world anymore.

Konami has the resources and staff to make games, to make great games, but they won't use them.  Their cruel and unnecessary shuttering of Hudson was the bellwether I suppose.  They still make games, but Japanese exclusive smartphone games and sports sims (and fine, Winning Eleven) don't do anything to continue the legacy of what was one of the finest gaming brands that ever existed.  Its a Lucasarts-esque retraction that's all the more sad because it never needed to happen and continues to frusterate the people who hold out hope that they'll ever get their swing back.

They won't, they don't even want to try.

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« Reply #83 on: March 19, 2015, 11:25:25 PM »
they're sitting on more IP than capcom.  do they really just not have any good proposals/ideas for contra, castlevania, etc

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« Reply #84 on: March 19, 2015, 11:25:43 PM »
This thing is fucked mostly because it seems like it basically happened overnight, or at least was in the works behind his back. Just last night Kojima was business as usual on his twitter account posting about the stuff he did regarding the game and retweeting Metal Gear stuff from both fans and the Konami twitter, I hope everything works out for the guy.  :tocry

they're sitting on more IP than capcom.  do they really just not have any good proposals/ideas for contra, castlevania, etc

They occasionally do good things, like when they outsourced to Arcsys to make Hard Corps: Uprising.

More often than that, they try to "reimagine" their franchises and we get Lords of Shadow, Silent Hill: Book of Memories and the Suikoden games that toss everything people liked about the original games out the window.

Iga is still locked somewhere in the company basement, forbidden from making more Castlevania.
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« Reply #85 on: March 19, 2015, 11:48:19 PM »
yeah ASW Contra is awesome and the kind of thing I'd like to see more of.  except they didn't call it contra and it probably sold half as much as it would have.

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« Reply #86 on: March 19, 2015, 11:53:38 PM »
call me crazy, but I much preferred the Wii exclusive downloadable Contra:Rebirth (by his holiness, I mean M2).

Hard Corps was not at all bad, but Rebirth, now there's some real nice throwback action and pixel art there I tells ya.  I wouldn't blame anyone for missing it though, as the Wii download games were essentially a niche within a niche within a crevice.

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« Reply #87 on: March 19, 2015, 11:57:19 PM »
The Rebirth games were all something else though.  :lawd

A huge shame that they're all gonna stay stuck in the Wii shop channel ghetto until the day Nintendo pull the plug on it, they deserve better. Even managed to turn Castlevania The Adventure into a really good game.

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« Reply #88 on: March 20, 2015, 12:05:38 AM »
This thing is fucked mostly because it seems like it basically happened overnight, or at least was in the works behind his back. Just last night Kojima was business as usual on his twitter account posting about the stuff he did regarding the game and retweeting Metal Gear stuff from both fans and the Konami twitter, I hope everything works out for the guy.  :tocry

they're sitting on more IP than capcom.  do they really just not have any good proposals/ideas for contra, castlevania, etc

They occasionally do good things, like when they outsourced to Arcsys to make Hard Corps: Uprising.

More often than that, they try to "reimagine" their franchises and we get Lords of Shadow, Silent Hill: Book of Memories and the Suikoden games that toss everything people liked about the original games out the window.

Iga is still locked somewhere in the company basement, forbidden from making more Castlevania.

Iga isn't at Konami anymore the last time I heard.

Yeah, he left last year.
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« Reply #89 on: March 20, 2015, 12:10:20 AM »
Oh...  :'(

I didn't like Igavania all that much, but seeing a new 2d castlevania every couple of years felt like tradition. I'd rather have had that continue in lieu of classicvania being six feet under.

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« Reply #90 on: March 20, 2015, 12:55:22 AM »
Konami's talent bleed is so bad that they make Square Enix look like Nintendo. You know things are bad when the guys behind the perv games bounce.

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« Reply #91 on: March 20, 2015, 12:55:31 AM »
Fuck Konami, they shit the bed after the PS2 generation... Kojima will hopefully be better off on his own.
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« Reply #92 on: March 20, 2015, 01:46:15 AM »
Sony will prob set him up

Nah he's gonna go to Sora/Nintendo to be with his BFF Sakurai.

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« Reply #95 on: March 20, 2015, 09:06:20 AM »
Sticking his nose in Silent Hill? Yeah, because that series hasn't been dragged through pig shit. Konami will probably be better without him because they're bowing out of gaming, they'll become a health/gambling company completely. Lets not pretend though that Kojima and his colleuges haven't carried Konami's desolate ass when it comes to games.

And this is why I laugh at SantaC. Kojima is literally the only thing carrying Konami around and they knew it. Now they're going to go into death flailing eventually.

so hire some actual talent? People in here give up way too easy.

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« Reply #96 on: March 20, 2015, 09:29:42 AM »
Companies in this industry tend to fail and shatter into thousand pieces.

You can't just buy your way to success and if the suits decide that it's too risky they'll just not do it at all. I don't actually know how big they are, but handheld Castlevania numbers are probably not enough, even if they have some measure of guaranteed success. That's in general the issue with publishers. They grow to match their biggest success, then they have to keep topping past sales just to maintain the size.

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« Reply #97 on: March 20, 2015, 09:32:58 AM »
I'm guessing every attempt at contra, silent hill, gradius V, castlevania, etc. for the past decade+ have been steadily declining.  konami seems like a company that's sick of trying.  that's why the earnings reports cite the Metal Gear division or whatever

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« Reply #99 on: March 20, 2015, 11:29:58 AM »
well you know, maybe Konami will actually try now and not have Kojima stick his nose in every konami game?

or, you know, maybe konami will stop making console/handheld games entirely once kojima is gone

I doubt it. What's so great about Kojima anyway? MGS4 was a massive disappointment.

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« Reply #100 on: March 20, 2015, 12:29:28 PM »
i wonder if they'll keep Kiefer for future games.  or maybe they'll go back to Hayter.   or just nolan north that shit

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« Reply #101 on: March 20, 2015, 12:57:23 PM »
David Hayter vo dlc patch for MGSV only $19.99
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« Reply #102 on: March 20, 2015, 02:19:04 PM »
People acknowledging SantaC's shit

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didn't the Love Plus guy leave also?

if so they don't even have the games those crazy otakus will shell out for anymore.  :lol
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« Reply #103 on: March 20, 2015, 02:41:16 PM »
The Love Plus guy was also the Rumble Roses guy and I'm SO MAD

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« Reply #104 on: March 20, 2015, 11:27:21 PM »
I was at a casino last weekend and about half of the slot machines I saw there were made by Konami.

A shame Konami is basically done with video games.  I may play the Parodius games as a "pour a 40 out" moment.
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« Reply #105 on: March 21, 2015, 12:33:25 AM »
so hire some actual talent? People in here give up way too easy.

If Konami was going to do that, they wouldn't have closed Kojima productions, now wouldn't they?

Konami is facing the same shit Capcom has been in since the mid 08's: A talent bleed and new talent is not entering the company. In fact, Konami has been in that state for FAR longer than Capcom. Konami has also sat on IP's for longer than Capcom.

Kojima and Metal Gear Solid is the only reason Konami actually is "relevant" in the west. DDR was killed, Beatmania has been dead since Arcades died. Pro Evo Soccer doesn't hold a candle to FIFA for most people.

People acknowledging SantaC's shit

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True, but his hate boner for Kojima is irrational. Kojima isn't the reason Konami is in the shit they're in. Konami is solely the reason they're in the shit they're in. If Kojima had stepped down after MGS3 and introduced new IP's or  hell... looked at returning IP's (SUP CASTLEVANIA AND SILENT HILL!?) maybe Konami would be in a different place than they're in, maybe. But that's a looooooong maybe.

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« Reply #106 on: March 21, 2015, 12:06:07 PM »
I was at a casino last weekend and about half of the slot machines I saw there were made by Konami.

A shame Konami is basically done with video games.  I may play the Parodius games as a "pour a 40 out" moment.

right.  many are missing that they make money elsewhere.  enough money to bump off an idolized game dev.

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« Reply #108 on: March 21, 2015, 11:13:52 PM »
I was at a casino last weekend and about half of the slot machines I saw there were made by Konami.

A shame Konami is basically done with video games.  I may play the Parodius games as a "pour a 40 out" moment.

I forgot how good the Parodius music is:

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« Reply #109 on: March 21, 2015, 11:38:27 PM »
i'd love it if Kojima had to work on a limited budget. his gameplay ideas are usually great but it's his terrible stories that bring down his games. less cutscenes equals more fun. gimme another boktai type game.
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« Reply #110 on: March 22, 2015, 12:35:07 AM »
I forgot about Boktai. That game was good?

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« Reply #111 on: March 22, 2015, 12:40:25 AM »
yeah it's like a kiddie mgs. stealth but fun puzzles and lite rpg elements. i loved it personally tho i can see how it wouldn't be that interesting to some people. b2 was cool too tho i couldn't finish it cuz you needed a lot a more sun and i was playing on an og gba.
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