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Kingpin reigns as the best MCU villain yet
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Black Panther and Spider-Man will have their MCU debuts in next year's Captain America: Civil War, fwiw.

wait who is playing spider-man? I'm pretty sure I read the guy from 42 is black panther.

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This is text book shit, Andy. No genre is on top for too long before oversaturation leads to fatigue and a backlash till the next big thing hits. I'm not saying they'll be forever dead, but don't count on the biggest movies being superhero flicks for the next 20 years. Marvel is long overdue for a big fuck up, and DC has an overambitious clusterfuck from the get go. It's bound to happen sometime soon. I'm not even a hater, but even I'm pretty tired of too many superhero shit coming out.

Not that I disagree (or that I care too much) but the market landscape is evolving as well, and a few years ago it would'nt have seemed sustainable to have tentpole franchise like those currently produced (MCU, Avatar...). Marvel is also proving that you push saturation quite a bit. I think fatigue will kick in pretty soon but big budget movie making will not revert instantly. I think it is detrimental for cinema long term but heh what can you do ?
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You want to know why you lost Singer to Warner Bros. and SUPERMAN in the first place? Because you took over a year to negotiate his deal to direct X-MEN 3. That should have been one of the biggest no-brainer decisions you could have ever made, but maybe you have to have a brain to make a no-brainer decision.

Except that Superman Returns was hot garbage.
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Black Panther and Spider-Man will have their MCU debuts in next year's Captain America: Civil War, fwiw.

wait who is playing spider-man? I'm pretty sure I read the guy from 42 is black panther.

Chadwick Boseman is Black Panther.

The final two picks for Spider-Man are Tom Holland and Asa Butterfield.

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Some guy]You want to know why you lost Singer to Warner Bros. and SUPERMAN in the first place? Because you took over a year to negotiate his deal to direct X-MEN 3. That should have been one of the biggest no-brainer decisions you could have ever made, but maybe you have to have a brain to make a no-brainer decision.

Except that Superman Returns was hot garbage.

Except what? That's not replying to anything in the quote.

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The dude's making it sound like Warner Bros. lucked out by getting him, even though the end result wasn't anything to write home about. It's like someone bragging about getting M.Night Shymyalann before he produced the Village.

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What exactly is "Buffyization" when used to talk about Whedon?

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The dude's making it sound like Warner Bros. lucked out by getting him, even though the end result wasn't anything to write home about. It's like someone bragging about getting M.Night Shymyalann before he produced the Village.

Lol. The article was directed to Tom Rothman at FOX for why X3 was going to be a trainwreck (and he was totally right.) Warner Bros. didn't luck out by getting him, it was about FOX losing the reason their superhero films were good all over stupid hubris.

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What exactly is "Buffyization" when used to talk about Whedon?

Characters interacting primarily through one liners.

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What exactly is "Buffyization" when used to talk about Whedon?

According to a Google Group participant "the process by which absolutely gorgeous women and handsome men are presented as horrific outcasts".

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On the media side, this might be viewed as the Buffyization of horror (from Joss Whedon’s highly complex and successful TV series Buffy the Vampire Slayer, 1997-2003), where traditional horror tropes may be repurposed as comedy or even romance, to much commercial success in the case of Buffy and certain of its successors.

Nerds and their meaningless words, I swear...
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You're right, I think the closest analogy would be the James Bond franchise (for the financial scope) and the assorted spy movie craze in the sixties, but the current trend is different in that the pace has picked up quite a lot, budgets have attained ridiculous heights, and the market is controlled by less players. There's also some specific constraints on the artistic side, as back then movies even in a franchise were mostly self-contained affairs while today (and since Star Wars I guess) a lot of people seems to obsess on continuity both for story and characters (which is why we end up with all characters having fucking daddy issues and paper thin personalities) and the "greater story" (which never materializes and transform every movie in a sequel hook-up) and it's a real disaster in my humble opinion.

Beyond that this whole tentpole business relies a lot on public financing (tax-shelters, etc... Just google the ridiculous deal Fox negotiated for Avatar sequels with New Zealand, IIRC) and on pressuring VFX companies dry : I don't think it's healthy and it looks like a gambler continually raising the stakes.

But as you said, we are all free to not care about those movies and to be honest I barely go to theater anymore despite working in this industry, so...
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Sony reboots Spider-Man like it's a bodily function. Fox cares a lot more about their universe they've been building for 15+ years. And X-Men wouldn't work in the MCU without a reboot.
Yes they care so much about the universe that they make movies where the continuity is continuously fucked up. No, not even the garbage that is Days of Future Past fixes anything. Simply saying X-men 3 did'nt happen dosen't fix shit. I mean why the heck would stopping the sentinel program(something that never effected anything before) fix things with Jean Grey and whatnot? Espically since you made it clear Stryker is still going to do the same shit.

And why wouldn't they work in the MCU? It's an entire universe who's driving point has been "fuck people have powers we need to do shit". Shield and whatnot has been cautious about powered beings like Thor, which is the one problem the real Marvel Universe has regarding the X-men. The X-men would for sure work in the MCU universe. Hell the Phoenix storyline would actually be able to be close to it's source material since the MCU embraces the cosmic stuff unlike the Foxverse.

The X-men movies are such garbage. DOFP and First Class were so bad.
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Can't think of a better villain in Marvel movies off the top of my head.  Spader was incredible.  The first scene with Ultron and his last scene are A++, the rest is ok/solid with some good bits.
Ultron, the best MCU villian yet? I sorta agree (I liked Guy Pearce's swarm in IM3) If that's the best they've had so far over what is now nearing a dozen films then that's a real crisis they've got brewing, just in the basic sort of narrative sense. James Bond will never die, but that doesn't mean the villian doesn't get to take out plenty of satellite characters along the way, even sometime very important ones (M and Felix Lighter have both been casualties in Bond films).

There was almost nothing in Age of Ultron that we haven't seen before in other Marvel films. Ultron actually did get to off...
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And if there's no dramatic stakes as nobody (important) is ever in danger, well how the heck are we supposed to care about any of this stuff?

I kinda figured that as the MCU progressed, and talent deals got progressively more expensive over time, and with such a large set of characters to play with, that some heroes would die, new ones would step up, some would take extended breaks. That kind of thing, but since apparently all of the MCU heroes are so far indispensible, there's never any suspense to who will win any crisis they have to come through. Phase three includes the Marvel Civil War, which means a major-major character death if they adapt the comics faithfully. Anybody believe that Marvel will actually go through with that anymore, would actually close the door on a major franchise?

I don't.

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I don't know why they don't kill characters and then bring them back as a chance to recast them. I mean I personally have no problem with parts being recast. I see it as kind of like a comic being drawn by a new artist. I wonder if Marvel is scared about re-casting characters, but they can't be if they expect this universe to keep going.

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Blanking on his name but the Thor actor said he'll play the role as long as they'll have him.

And if they can keep turning unknown properties like Guardians into successes they can take the occasional lumps. I'm not sure there's an actual "fatigue" that they're comic movies. Harry Potter, Hunger Games, Twilight, etc. have all survived off getting just enough mass-market appeal and book adaptations have gone on for ages. And then there's stuff like Saw and most of the horror genre that's been rebooted over and over and even unrebooted.

Marvel's done well, and Whedon was accurate on this point, to more or less assume you don't need much more than a passing familiarity with the characters or none at all. Whedon noted he had to assume people at best saw the original Avengers. And you can still fit in the greater arcs. Especially when you stick them all mid/post-credits. Thanos and the whole Infinity Gems lore will be a decent test, but fanboys will pay the cost of those movies back.

Man of Steel and Superman Returns layered on too much exposition to explain its universe, do origins, etc. Batman Begins I think suffered in part because of this (and its predecessors) while The Dark Knight was pretty straight forward. You've got Batman, you've got The Joker. Most everyone knows these characters and that's all they needed. The Dark Knight Rises swam off that reputation and its overcomplexity and ties to the first film are probably why it was less well received despite making epic bank.

I think that's part of why Star Trek backfired (and HUELEN10 has to constantly point everyone to the comics in his rants) in that they didn't just say "it's Kirk, it's Spock, Scotty/McCoy/etc. how about some Klingons?" It tried to tie it to the original universe WHILE telling the backstory of the characters. And Into Darkness did the same thing where it both tried to talk you to death to explain everything while going HEY LOOK KHAN, YOU REMEMBER KHAN RIGHT? AND OLD SPOCK?!?

Avatar's problem is that it's going to be like a decade later. And James Cameron delivered on everything he promised in the Ubisoft speech. 2 will make a lot of money, but you do wonder about its franchise prospects.

One reason I don't think Batman v. Superman will bomb is because the title's like a big flashing neon sign. James Bond has been mentioned and no matter what people know what they're getting spy stuff, shooting, and British accents. Similar to how people know what they're getting from Fast and Furious, cinematic and intellectual masterpieces.

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I think saturation is more of a problem when the movies aren't good enough to justify the costs, and they're coming out constantly in the same "franchise" like the latter Brosnan Bond's.

The MCU may be tied together, but most of them are still "separate" franchises enough that you can have people who just want to see say The Avengers and Captain America and that's it. They aren't being as "saturated" as people who watch all the MCU content and understand the extent of its interconnected nature. They're more like the people who wanted to see the new Harry Potter's each year or whatever.

Star Wars may hit a saturation with the spin-off films, but those can easily be dropped.

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Aside from Loki, I guess they didn't kill Abomination, but they largely seem to pretend the Hulk movie - which also set up the Leader - doesn't exist. 

Actually the Thunderbolt Ross from that movie was just spotted around Civil War filming.

http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/content/general-thunderbolt-ross-william-hurt-suits-captain-america-3

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How many times have they killed the villian? 3? Two lame Iron Man villians who can be replaced and I guess Ronan? Ultron can always come back. I don't actually think they have a problem with killing villians. It's just one isn't avaliable to them, the avengers villians kind of suck, x-men and Spider-Man have the better villians, and well the red skull is still alive just needs to be recast.

Anyway there's still Kang. Who I could see easily well played by Christoph Waltz. Maybe Norman Osbourne is on the table now? I would even say scarlet witch if the whole "team is dysfunctional" thing hadn't been used for 2 movies.

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If only Marvel had the X-men. We'd actually get the Phoniex saga correctly.

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I definitely think the original team will be out/done after Infinity War Part II, after that the MCU will still make Avengers movies but it'll be with the newer or secondary characters. No clue who they'd use as villains but Shark is right, they can always pull something.

MCU Phase 4 / Avengers 4 will be Bucky as Cap + Falcon, Spider-Man, War Machine?, Scarlet Witch, Hulk, and some newcomers like Captain Marvel and Black Panther. Cameos from the surviving original guys, but the big thing to realize is the MCU won't end with Thanos and Cap/Tony/Thor.

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Probably Ant Man in New Avengers too

Getting Spider-Man gives you a lot of (admittedly mostly underwhelming) choices for villains too. I would really like to see a Dan Ketch Ghost Rider reboot, preferably as a one season netflix thing, but probably not happening.  Then again, I mean they made a Guardians movie and it was a blockbuster, so I guess anything is possible...
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Honestly I hope FF bombs and they get it back for phases 4-6 with a build up to galactus or even doom.

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Galactus would be the perfect villain for Phases 4-6 to build up to like Thanos was for 1-3. Absolutely perfect. And having Doom in the mix would be great too.

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I dont know why you people seem to think the characters are tied to the actors. They can easily recast all of them. Only RDJ is the only hard one to replace. But there's no need to reboot or replace characters just because contracts end.

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if marvel has the rights to the skrulls that's a decent interesting way forward.

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Why would Stark pass Iron Man unto someone else? There's no reason for that to happen.

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Joss deleted his twitter because people told him he once again did a shitty job with Age of Ultron.

He should get in touch with Gary Whitta for tips on how to cope.
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Why would Stark pass Iron Man unto someone else? There's no reason for that to happen.

To sell toys.

If RDJ ever wants to stop, Marvel and Disney have a million reasons to keep IRON MAN on the screen.
Um....I wasn't aware that RDJ is the only actor ever who can play Iron Man/Tony Stark.

Oh wait he's not. They'll just replace him. There's no need to make another character.

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What exactly is "Buffyization" when used to talk about Whedon?

Characters interacting primarily through one liners.

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Sounds reasonable, the movie felt more comedic than serious save the world.

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Joss deleted his twitter because people told him he once again did a shitty job with Age of Ultron.

The Joss Whedon hate here and around the internet. :badass I can't even...

I mean hate the dude, okay, that's your perogative. But the Avengers was great, especially tying all the "Phase 1" movies together for "Phase 2" to start. I expect the same with Age of Ultron.

2. It wouldn't work since Fox is keeping their X-universe going since 2000. Maybe after Apocalypse since there's rumors Fox will finally do a hard-reboot then, but I don't see why they would since they now have younger versions of everybody (hopefully on lockdown for multiple movies.)

Yeah, about that...

Unless Singer is going to stick with 80's X-men 5, which is doubtful.

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No no, we already know that Apoc will complete the FC trilogy and that Fass/McAvoy/Lawrence are probably out. I meant the new Jean/Cyke/Storm/Nightcrawler/etc. They're young and can assuredly star in another trilogy of films after this one.

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I hope fassbender and mcavoy stick around and the series settles in the 1980s.  nothing against jennifer lawrence but she's pretty boring as mystique and her profile forces them write mystique as a big role.
 
 

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Why would Stark pass Iron Man unto someone else? There's no reason for that to happen.

To sell toys.

If RDJ ever wants to stop, Marvel and Disney have a million reasons to keep IRON MAN on the screen.
Um....I wasn't aware that RDJ is the only actor ever who can play Iron Man/Tony Stark.

Oh wait he's not. They'll just replace him. There's no need to make another character.

I feel like maybe you're as good at reading as Floyd Mayweather because I was very clearly talking about if they didn't want to reboot the entire universe they could have Tony pick a successor. But they can just recast him anyway, you may say. Great point. Imagine how annoyed the viewing public would be. RDJ as Tony Stark is at this point iconic and unless they waited years and years to cast a new Stark, it would be more marketable and easier to have a new Iron Man.
Well Flyod and I are both mysigonsits, so we have that in common. But that seems like a dumb insult considering if you yourself could read you'd see I was talking about only if they kept the universe going.

You act like audiences haven't survived recasts before. They will if the quality is there. It will be hard to replace RDJ but not impossible. There's little reason for a universe reboot since everything is well established for simply telling all kinds of stories that are standalone. It makes little sense to restart all that because one actor dosent want to do the movies anymore. It also makes little sense to throw away a character when you can recast and audiences are already comfortable with superheros being played by multiple actors. It's really not going to confuse people. Hell telling the adventures of not iron man sounds stupid and more hurtful.

Besides Marvel had already recast and has said they will.

There's been how many Bonds? Yeah the argument aginst recasting holds no water.

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You were responding to me initially? I can't tell if you're just unknowingly stupid or just trying to start shit with me. Either way, it's real annoying.
I was responding to the idea that the series has to be rebooted or whatever just because RDJ leaves. You're the one that's getting flippant for whatever rason.

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You can attempt to dispute this all you'd like, but the Marvel Cinematic Universe is built on the back of Robert Downey Jr. If it wasn't for him and his perfect portrayal of Tony Stark there wouldn't be a universe. Again, feel free to tell me that somebody else could've done just as well but that isn't the case in the reality we live in
. Nowhere did I say or doubt that RDJ is a huge part of the franchise. Though I don't think it's an absolute that The MCU wouldn't have been a hit if it didn't have him. Iron Man 1 was a good movie with a good perfromance from RDJ. Yet, I don't even think any of the Iron Man movies are the best of the series.


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The character dynamic and Avenger storylines all revolve around Tony Stark. He is the center of the show. He is the common thread that pulls everyone together. Why is this? Downey is the most charismatic and charming person in the line up. Nobody comes close. It's why he gets paid the most. It's why Iron Man is the most produced and marketed Avenger
.Again, this is all pointless stuff being said. No one doubts that RDJ is the most popular aspect of the series and it will no doubt be tough to follow his absence. Again, where did I say that it would be? Oh right I didn't.

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Recasting him without rebooting the entire universe is throwing that all away. Imagine what that does to an audience. Imagine what that does to your cast.
How? At this point all of the other characters are well established and popular in thier own right. Iron man itself is a popular character. You really think the Avengers can't survive without him. Then why the hell have Guardians of the Galaxy and Captain America 2 been super successful? Why is Daredevil getting so much praise? Marvel itself is a brand on it's own. RDJ may have helped built it, but the brand is more then able to stand on it's own now. It's really asinine to think that a Marvel movie with iron Man will somehow fail just because Iron Man is'nt played by RDJ. Espically since for some reason you think people will be more accepting of iron being played by someone not called Tony Stark. Which is'nt even far removed from simply recasting Tony Stark. It result's in the same conclusion.

But yes somehow recasting a popular character is akin to throwing out decades of character development, plot progression, universe building, and storytelling because I guess audiences are so dumb that they won't be able to reconcile that hey "dude is played by a different actor now"

That dosen't make any sense.

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When Downey decides to call it quits, if Marvel and Disney decide to continue the universe without reboot and wish to have IRON MAN as a continuing presence, it would make more sense and be safer to have Tony Stark choose a successor. Not to mention leaves the door open for cameos which would be big business in itself.
Yes it makes more sense to have Iron Man be not iron man then attempt to have someone try thier hand at Tony Stark. Audiences won't be able to handle it even though they've been able to handle it for pretty much every film character ever.

Though it dosen't matter because Marvel is'nt going to reboot and has already said they are willing to recast.
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And bringing up Bond as an example of recasting being fine? You are aware that when George Lazenby took over for Sean Connery after he announced his retirement from the series, it was an absolute disaster causing the studio to throw hilarious amounts of money at Connery to return to the series, correct?
Oh you mean the series that was able to bounce back when it cast Roger More who was already established as Tv's the saint. How about Pierce who was already well known as another character as well. Audiences didn't seem to mind when that happen. But yes I guess the point is moot because one time out of 4 wasn't successful. Great logic. 
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So that feels like a pretty stupid counter example; but in every instance of me seeing your posts or interacting with you, you've come off like an idiot sooooo~
I guess if you're an idiot who chooses to ignore the several other examples in the series. Then sure. Why you feel the need to be a douche I don't know.

Also before you call someone an idiot how about you know what the fuck you're talking about. They didn't go after Connery because they failed with Lazenby. Lazenby refused to do another movie. It wasn't even the first choice to go after Connery. The reason they spent millions and made a big deal with Connery is because Connery did not leave on the best of terms and they had to negotiate. It was not because there was some big failure on account of a role being recast as you're trying to push for your weak argument. Magisty did not do as well as You Only Live Twice, but it still performed really well. It was no disaster. Just like it won't be a disaster when RDJ steps down.
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pretty heated for talking about whether they'll recast iron man, guys

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pretty heated for talking about whether they'll recast iron man, guys

What good is the internet if you don't use it to make people cry for not accepting your objective opinion on vidya, anime, and men in tights. The topics of actual importance.

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Get into fights over who will play a role in a movie that doesn't exist yet and won't be released for 4-5 years, brehs.
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Get into fights over who will play a role in a movie that doesn't exist yet and won't be released for 4-5 years, brehs.

Especially when it's pretty obvious that they'd just recast Tony Stark.
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lets get heated about disney films y'all :expert

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while we're at it who gives a shit if the suicide squad movie sucks

"oh man they ruined captain boomerang"



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Getting rapped :aah

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while we're at it who gives a shit if the suicide squad movie sucks

"oh man they ruined captain boomerang"

As one of the fifteen actual fans of SS, this shit is pissing me off already.

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while we're at it who gives a shit if the suicide squad movie sucks

"oh man they ruined captain boomerang"

As one of the fifteen actual fans of SS, this shit is pissing me off already.


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Always presumed Whedon's "strong female characters" were based on the sort of fantasy girlfriend he wished he had in high school to protect him from bullies.

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Whedon has always been Jonathan IRL

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while we're at it who gives a shit if the suicide squad movie sucks

"oh man they ruined captain boomerang"

As one of the fifteen actual fans of SS, this shit is pissing me off already.

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lets get heated about disney films y'all :expert

Honestly I'll side with him over the hardcore feminazis any day of the week.
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I know I'm reading a lot into the fact that man has no neck, but maybe he wouldn't have to worry about heart attacks if he spent less time following a fictional universe on the internet and more time being active.

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I know I'm reading a lot into the fact that man has no neck, but maybe he wouldn't have to worry about heart attacks if he spent less time following a fictional universe on the internet and more time being active.

Is it worth the extra years if you have to abandon the one you love?
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while we're at it who gives a shit if the suicide squad movie sucks

"oh man they ruined captain boomerang"

As one of the fifteen actual fans of SS, this shit is pissing me off already.

Might seem backwards, but makes more sense to me for fans to get antsy about stuff like SS and Ant Man.  A movie version of Batman you don't like?  Whatever.  You'll get other movies, TV versions, cartoon series, straight to video/streaming animated movies, vidya, etc.  But if they screw the pooch on Suicide Squad, how long until someone takes another crack at it?

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SS is just a canonical garbage disposal with a letterer, though. The very nature of the comic prevents you from investing in the characters, and even if you could they're villains or 90s baditude anti-heroes so irredeemably bad that they're on the chopping block.

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Always presumed Whedon's "strong female characters" were based on the sort of fantasy girlfriend he wished he had in high school to protect him from bullies.

I think you had a generation of men that jacked off to Barbarella as teenage boys and they have been writing to that muse ever since. (James Cameron is another one)


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This movie is like 2:30 long. :o Was good though. The end made it look like half of the cast's contracts were up for renewal for playing these characters since most of the original main team were all like 'yeah uh we're going away for a while maybe?' at the end of the film. :lol
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Always presumed Whedon's "strong female characters" were based on the sort of fantasy girlfriend he wished he had in high school to protect him from bullies.

I think you had a generation of men that jacked off to Barbarella as teenage boys and they have been writing to that muse ever since. (James Cameron is another one)

I don't really mind the artists doing that but the (largely male) fandom are a bit grating with that when they insist that giving a woman an assault rifle is the zenith of characterization and progressism. Then again it is unsurprising considering how much certain "nerds" (or whatever the correct term) stan so hard that we should take very seriously their favorite subset of pop culture.

The Dirty Pair : feminism in action !
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Always presumed Whedon's "strong female characters" were based on the sort of fantasy girlfriend he wished he had in high school to protect him from bullies.

I think you had a generation of men that jacked off to Barbarella as teenage boys and they have been writing to that muse ever since. (James Cameron is another one)

I don't really mind the artists doing that but the (largely male) fandom are a bit grating with that when they insist that giving a woman an assault rifle is the zenith of characterization and progressism. Then again it is unsurprising considering how much certain "nerds" (or whatever the correct term) stan so hard that we should take very seriously their favorite subset of pop culture.

The Dirty Pair : feminism in action !

We'll see how well it ultimately turns out, but:

In Esquire’s new interview with supermodel-turned-Michael-Bay-fetish Rosie Huntington-Whiteley, the actor reveals that Miller didn’t want to just fill in the backstories of his movie’s abused women on the run with some computer-generated tales of woe. No, he wanted real-deal horrifying, so he flew in author and performer Eve Ensler, famous for her work The Vagina Monologues, to class things up. As Huntington-Whiteley explains, Ensler made sure that everyone knew just what kind of mindset could come out of the awful experiences to which their characters were subjected.
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Been so out of the loop I had no idea this was even coming out until the other bore thread about it.  I can't tell if I'm personally experiencing comic book movie fatigue or if I'm just starting to get burnt out on big Hollywood movies entirely.  I'm not all that excited about Star Wars or Batman v Superman either.  Only one I'm even marginally looking forward to is Fast and Furious which I should finally have time to see next week.

I know I'm reading a lot into the fact that man has no neck, but maybe he wouldn't have to worry about heart attacks if he spent less time following a fictional universe on the internet and more time being active.

Fat-shaming  :omg