Avengers: Age of Megabomba - Comic book movies gone forever, Marvel bankrupted

[Great Rumbler]

     Opening weekend
1   Marvel's The Avengers   BV   $207,438,708
2   Avengers: Age of Ultron   BV   $187,656,000

DEAD

[nudemacusers]

from what i gather, they took an actor who can sound coldly menacing like no other, paired him with a psychopathic robot who wants to end humanity, and turned the combo into a joss whedon quip machine. 

[Human Snorenado]

Whew, thank God this is the end of the Joss Whedon Marvel era. Maybe now we can get some quality films out of the MCU.

[VomKriege]

A bomba would probably be good for the industry.

[CatsCatsCats]

That's disappointing to hear about Spader's Ultron, had high hopes for that

[Phoenix Dark]

lol at the fanboys being so protective of this shit and using hashtags related to proving comic film fatigue isn't real. I dunno if it is or isn't; obviously this film did very well and will probably cross 1bil with ease. If anything we'll see basura tier comic characters take the L in the future. Ant-Man, Black Widow, all of DC's movies, etc.

[Kara]

from what i gather, they took an actor who can sound coldly menacing like no other, paired him with a psychopathic robot who wants to end humanity, and turned the combo into a joss whedon quip machine. 

He made it work with the man they call Jayne.

[helios]

The movie was alright. Winter Soldier is still better. And Daredevil is better than that. Quality is there, but Whedon isn't the person to go to.

[fistfulofmetal]

who's idea was it to delay a week and not debut worldwide? and to put it up against a huge sport event as well? dumbies.

[Tasty]

It's all about dat Daredevil anyways

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I hope this signals the end of both comic book movies and Joss Whedon's career.  Both are long overdue.

[jakefromstatefarm]

without having seen either, there is zero way this ends up being worse than Dawn of Justice



zero

[toku]

James Spader Joss Whedon quip robot was the best part of the movie.

[dkdk]

from what i gather, they took an actor who can sound coldly menacing like no other, paired him with a psychopathic robot who wants to end humanity, and turned the combo into a joss whedon quip machine. 

oh god this sounds fucking horrid. i was so hyped for Spadertron too.

[octopushover]

if i wanted to watch spader and rdj in a movie together i'd watch Less Than Zero again

[octopushover]

or Tuff Turf 

[Kara]

if i wanted to watch spader and rdj in a movie together i'd watch Less Than Zero again

good pull

[cool breeze]

from what i gather, they took an actor who can sound coldly menacing like no other, paired him with a psychopathic robot who wants to end humanity, and turned the combo into a joss whedon quip machine. 

to be fair this version of ultron is supposed to have some of tony stark's personalty.  the problem is every character in the movie has tony stark's personality.

[toku]

The problem ppl have with Spadertron is he's an insecure sentient being with severe daddy issues so it hits too close to home for most.

[fistfulofmetal]

Ultron and his plan was like way better than Loki and whatever his grand scheme was.

[toku]

Ultron and his plan was like way better than Loki and whatever his grand scheme was.

He was definitely a better villain. I agree.

[Mr. Nobody]

Hopefully this signals the slow recession of all lame ass comic book movies for a while. i blame that toby mcguire spiderman movie for setting this tired trend off  (Image removed from quote.)

I hope it flourishes 

[StealthFan]

Of course there are no stakes and its a one-sided fight. It's a superhero movie. The best fight  was at the end of Spider-Man. Shit was brutal, but even then Peter won. Fuck these generic ass Marvel movies.

[toku]

Of course there are no stakes and its a one-sided fight. It's a superhero movie. The best fight  was at the end of Spider-Man. Shit was brutal, but even then Peter won. Fuck these generic ass Marvel movies.

Still my favorite superhero fight. Peter gets tore the fuck up. Absolutely brutalized. The hits are real, wood and bricks break, not cgi dancing bullshit. Sheer will power and reliance on his most abstract power (spidey sense) is how he wins.

[cool breeze]

of marvel movies I like the action in captain america 2.  there it felt like they're trying to subdue or kill each other, a lot less power rangers than the avengers.

[TakingBackSunday]

Fuck the avengers, the new hotness is the guardians movies

[Tasty]

I hope this signals the end of both comic book movies and Joss Whedon's career.  Both are long overdue.

[Tasty]

Of course there are no stakes and its a one-sided fight. It's a superhero movie. The best fight  was at the end of Spider-Man. Shit was brutal, but even then Peter won. Fuck these generic ass Marvel movies.

Still my favorite superhero fight. Peter gets tore the fuck up. Absolutely brutalized. The hits are real, wood and bricks break, not cgi dancing bullshit. Sheer will power and reliance on his most abstract power (spidey sense) is how he wins.

I miss Sam Raimi Spider-man :'( :'(

Fucking dickbags at Sony wouldn't give him another few months to get the SM4 script right. And Danny Elfman was back on board too after their falling out in SM3. Fuck. SM4 would have been so great.

[Oblivion]

Wait, Ultron is played by James Spader? The dude from Boston Legal?

[Tasty]

Fucking dickbags who forced him to write Venom into SM3. I still kind of think he either tanked that movie or just stopped giving a fuck.

Nah, I do think he gave it his all, but yeah Venom just didn't mix with the silver age-era Spider-Man Raimi had made movies about. And it wouldn't surprise me if supreme dickbag Avi Arad forced it into the script right before production started.

Best news of the Marvel/Sony Spidey news was learning that they bought Arad off and figuratively shipped him to some fucking island so he couldn't ruin the new movie like he did for the last three.

[Joe Molotov]

MOTY Furious 7 had already been released, no need to see this pretender.

[Bebpo]

Ultron and his plan was like way better than Loki and whatever his grand scheme was.

He was definitely a better villain. I agree.

Can't think of a better villain in Marvel movies off the top of my head.  Spader was incredible.  The first scene with Ultron and his last scene are A++, the rest is ok/solid with some good bits.

[Bebpo]

The Thanos movie had better not give us a weak villain. Especially after all the build-up. These fucks also have an opportunity to use secondary villains that aren't trash mobs, since the Black Order is well established in the comics at this point.

I dunno, he looks dumb (movie-version), sounds dumb (movie-version) and I have zero faith he's going to be anything beyond a typical Marvel movie antagonist.  Plus there will be a scene where everyone fights faceless hordes for 15 mins towards the end of each movie because they have like two dozen superheroes at this point and need to give everyone time to do some signature action stuff.

[Bebpo]

3) Could've used more Falcon.

That's about my only complaint.  I mean it wasn't an oscar worthy film or anything, but for a popcorn action superhero film, that's about all that was missing to me. 

[helios]

Kingpin reigns as the best MCU villain yet

[cool breeze]

venom in a spider-man movie just needs to be cape fear.  he's boring once you get past him messing with peter's life.

[Human Snorenado]

The Thanos movie had better not give us a weak villain. Especially after all the build-up. These fucks also have an opportunity to use secondary villains that aren't trash mobs, since the Black Order is well established in the comics at this point.

No Whedon so it won't be shit tier.

[Human Snorenado]

Kingpin reigns as the best MCU villain yet

based D'onofrio

[helios]

Kingpin reigns as the best MCU villain yet

based D'onofrio

The motherfuckin' Ill Intent

[Tasty]

Andrex: IMO, if you do Venom, you need to go all out with it and center the tone around Venom and the black costume. That clearly didn't happen with SM3. The tone was all over the place, with the result that a lot of scenes didn't work at all.

It was much better than X-Men 3 though. That's still my WOAT superhero film post 2000.

Oh for sure, X3 is the all-time biggest movie letdown for me. What a fucking piece of shit. Fuck Brett Ratner and Tom Rothman. So glad the latter was tossed fucking overboard.

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Of course, now he's at Sony.

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FUCK Tom Rothman:

And make no mistake... the rush to make that Memorial Day 2006 release date is about beating Bryan Singer to the screen. The acrimony involved in the Singer/Fox break-up is rich enough to write an entire book about, especially if it leads to the destruction of the franchise. This could turn into one of the all-time great displays of executive hubris in Hollywood. You want to know why you lost Singer to Warner Bros. and SUPERMAN in the first place? Because you took over a year to negotiate his deal to direct X-MEN 3. That should have been one of the biggest no-brainer decisions you could have ever made, but maybe you have to have a brain to make a no-brainer decision. You strung him along and strung him along and strung him along, and then when you had finally proven to him that you weren’t going to make things easy... you were too late. Alan Horn took full advantage of Bryan’s almost-fetishistic love of Donner’s SUPERMAN and your hesitancy, and he stole him from you. I don’t know what’s funnier... throwing Bryan off the lot using security guards, or the fact that you had to let him back on the lot immediately thereafter so he could shoot HOUSE for the studio.

God, listen to how awesome X3 would have been if he hadn't been such a dickbag:

“The idea – you open up with Alkali Lake but it’s completely barren and dried up and there are these odd reports of strange phenomena going on around the world accompanied by bright lights in the sky.”

“The idea would be that both the X-Men and the Brotherhood realize that essentially a very god-like force had entered their reality and that it was causing disruptions around the world – mutant prisons being decimated. I had pitched an idea about a fleet of cargo ships getting torn apart in the Atlantic and you found out that they were shuttling mutants as slave labor.”

“So basically you found out was that Phoenix was going round the world taking things into her own hands and that she had basically returned as a god, which they did touch upon in X3. She had viewed herself as above the conflict, that she was here to end things on her terms, she was basically sick of the fighting and she was going to take things into her own hands and she didn’t give a shit what the X-Men or the Brotherhood had to say about it.”

“The one idea that I loved, that I really wanted to do, was that Cyclops would build the Danger Room. Cyclops felt guilty, he felt that because the X-Men were too weak, they weren’t strong enough, they weren’t fast enough, that was the reason Jean died. If they were a little bit better at fighting, then she might still be alive. It was all about this guilt he had about her death and so he built the Danger Room to train them to be better. But in the end it really was about him not being able to let go of her, so that causes all the chaos and disruption in the movie. But in the end it’s about him letting her go.”

“Ultimately she kind of becomes that cosmic force that Phoenix is known to be, she choose to leave Earth and become a god, or at least a higher level of intelligence, and she goes into the cosmos possibly to kick-start life somewhere else… The final scene for me would have been her telling Cyclops or her telling the X-Men ‘I’ll be watching.’ Essentially she becomes a god.”

FUCK

[Human Snorenado]

It's almost a shame X3 didn't tank Xmen movies enough for Fox to lose the license back to Marvel. First Class and Days of Future Past were pretty good, but just think of what could have been if they'd been able to be part of the MCU*

*accepting of course the truth that that fucking hack Whedon would never have touched them, hopefully

[Shaka Khan]

It was okay.

I'll take Netflix productions any day of the week though. Can't wait for Ironfist.

[Madrun Badrun]

I would just like to point out that avengers 2 was the north America No. 2 opening of all time behind the first one.  Also that with Ultron, MCU movies have now grossed more than Harry potter movies, making it the top grossing franchise (with it grossing in 7 years about 1/2 of Canada's GNP).  Super Hero movies will never die and for those of you who dislike them, I will enjoy your pain for years to come. 

[Tasty]

It's almost a shame X3 didn't tank Xmen movies enough for Fox to lose the license back to Marvel. First Class and Days of Future Past were pretty good, but just think of what could have been if they'd been able to be part of the MCU*

*accepting of course the truth that that fucking hack Whedon would never have touched them, hopefully

Lololol Whedon's most revered run in comics is his work on X-Men. The entire reason Marvel risked a bunch of legal flack by using Magneto's children in AoU was because Whedon absolutely loves those characters and the X-Men in general. You're delusional if you think Whedon wouldn't go full-ham on them if they had the rights. I mean, dude even wrote an early draft of X1.

Anyways, I'm of the opinion the X-Men universe would not mesh well with the MCU. Heck they kinda barely mesh with the overall Marvel-verse in general. Events like AvX always come off as weird. X-Men work best on their own, and Bryan Singer is a better director than anybody who's ever done an MCU movie.

Plus, recasting Prof X, Magneto, Wolverine, etc.? Gtfo.

Spider-Man? Absolutely. Fantastic Four? Sure. Daredevil? Well, fucking obviously, thank Christ they got those rights back. But X-Men? Nah, they're in good hands these days.

And Apocalypse is going to be better than every comic movie in 2016, just like Days of Future Past was last year.

[Tasty]

The fatigue is real

and superhero movies won't be as plentiful as they have been this past decade.

No

[Tasty]

Gonna quote Dandy here:

I would just like to point out that avengers 2 was the north America No. 2 opening of all time behind the first one.  Also that with Ultron, MCU movies have now grossed more than Harry potter movies, making it the top grossing franchise (with it grossing in 7 years about 1/2 of Canada's GNP).  Super Hero movies will never die and for those of you who dislike them, I will enjoy your pain for years to come.

[Human Snorenado]

I actually agree with Andy, but only because nerds have shit taste and will flock to anything comic book related and throw their money at it. Even shitty Zack Snyder movies. Goddamn what I wouldn't give for Zack and Joss to murder each other. So sick of Snyder's one note horseshit and Whedon's lame and predictable buffy-ization of everything he touches.

[thisismyusername]

It's almost a shame X3 didn't tank Xmen movies enough for Fox to lose the license back to Marvel. First Class and Days of Future Past were pretty good, but just think of what could have been if they'd been able to be part of the MCU*

*accepting of course the truth that that fucking hack Whedon would never have touched them, hopefully

Lololol Whedon's most revered run in comics is his work on X-Men. The entire reason Marvel risked a bunch of legal flack by using Magneto's children in AoU was because Whedon absolutely loves those characters and the X-Men in general. You're delusional if you think Whedon wouldn't go full-ham on them if they had the rights. I mean, dude even wrote an early draft of X1.

Anyways, I'm of the opinion the X-Men universe would not mesh well with the MCU. Heck they kinda barely mesh with the overall Marvel-verse in general. Events like AvX always come off as weird. X-Men work best on their own, and Bryan Singer is a better director than anybody who's ever done an MCU movie.

Plus, recasting Prof X, Magneto, Wolverine, etc.? Gtfo. (Image removed from quote.)

Spider-Man? Absolutely. Fantastic Four? Sure. Daredevil? Well, fucking obviously, thank Christ they got those rights back. But X-Men? Nah, they're in good hands these days.

And Apocalypse is going to be better than every comic movie in 2016, just like Days of Future Past was last year.

I dunno. X-men being under Marvel's hands could be good and bad in regards to the films. I don't disagree that Singer's films haven't been solid (they have been) nor have I felt they were terrible (even enjoyed X-men: Origins: Wolverine despite that being a major turd). But you can tell Marvel really REALLY fucking hates that Fox has the X-men because they're doing a bunch of stupid shit in the comics.

That said: I really wish Whedon would get off the Kitty Pryde fandom. At least Warren Ellis after Whedon's run focused on a stronger X-man (Storm) than Kitty.

[Madrun Badrun]

Also the Chinese market is just going to get bigger and more important and their favorite movies right now are big dumb action movies. 

[Human Snorenado]

...I'm really just sad that we'll never get a good Ghost Rider movie. Thanks a lot, Nicholas Cage, you asshole.

[cool breeze]

don't know if ghost rider can be done on netflix but they need to get on a punisher series.  I think they have the rights for it.

It's almost a shame X3 didn't tank Xmen movies enough for Fox to lose the license back to Marvel. First Class and Days of Future Past were pretty good, but just think of what could have been if they'd been able to be part of the MCU*

*accepting of course the truth that that fucking hack Whedon would never have touched them, hopefully

Lololol Whedon's most revered run in comics is his work on X-Men. The entire reason Marvel risked a bunch of legal flack by using Magneto's children in AoU was because Whedon absolutely loves those characters and the X-Men in general. You're delusional if you think Whedon wouldn't go full-ham on them if they had the rights. I mean, dude even wrote an early draft of X1.

Anyways, I'm of the opinion the X-Men universe would not mesh well with the MCU. Heck they kinda barely mesh with the overall Marvel-verse in general. Events like AvX always come off as weird. X-Men work best on their own, and Bryan Singer is a better director than anybody who's ever done an MCU movie.

Plus, recasting Prof X, Magneto, Wolverine, etc.? Gtfo. (Image removed from quote.)

Spider-Man? Absolutely. Fantastic Four? Sure. Daredevil? Well, fucking obviously, thank Christ they got those rights back. But X-Men? Nah, they're in good hands these days.

And Apocalypse is going to be better than every comic movie in 2016, just like Days of Future Past was last year.

also marvel can only make so many movies.  if they had x-men, guardians of the galaxy might not have happened.  as soon as spider-man was on the table they delayed black panther.

[Tasty]

Also a good point.

And it wasn't just Black Panther, they delayed like everything in phase 3.

[Madrun Badrun]

Only for a bit and my guess was that was Sony saying give us space than something Marvel really wanted to do at this point.  Spiderman is kinda tainted now.

[Shaka Khan]

Black Panther delayed because of the Spiderman deal? I thought they only had a license to use the character in one of their movies, not start him in one.

[thisismyusername]

Black Panther delayed because of the Spiderman deal? I thought they only had a license to use the character in one of their movies, not start him in one.

No. The deal is that Sony gives back Spider-man BUT also has the ability to make separate Spider-man films. Meanwhile Spider-man can be used in the "Marvel Cinematic Universe" as Marvel wishes.

Which, is pretty much the best deal Sony could've gotten from it. Fox should just capitulate and do the same for the X-men. But you know Marvel would fucking hate it because that would mean allowing Singer a lot of access to some non-X-men "X-men" like Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch's "retcon" from being Magneto's children.

[Shaka Khan]

Spiderman can DIAF. I was really looking forward to Black Excellence.

[Tasty]

Spiderman can DIAF. I was really looking forward to Black Excellence.

[cool breeze]

Spiderman can DIAF. I was really looking forward to Black Excellence.

he'll shows up before his own movie.  he's like wonder woman.  these companies are scared of taking risks with the most prominent black and female characters so they tag along in films about their top two characters v'ing.

[Tasty]

Fox should just capitulate and do the same for the X-men. But you know Marvel would fucking hate it because that would mean allowing Singer a lot of access to some non-X-men "X-men" like Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch's "retcon" from being Magneto's children.

1. No, they shouldn't.

2. It wouldn't work since Fox is keeping their X-universe going since 2000. Maybe after Apocalypse since there's rumors Fox will finally do a hard-reboot then, but I don't see why they would since they now have younger versions of everybody (hopefully on lockdown for multiple movies.)

Sony reboots Spider-Man like it's a bodily function. Fox cares a lot more about their universe they've been building for 15+ years. And X-Men wouldn't work in the MCU without a reboot.

[Tasty]

Black Panther and Spider-Man will have their MCU debuts in next year's Captain America: Civil War, fwiw.