Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]

[Eel O'Brian]

hope you can tweak the voices like in saint's row

[mormapope]

Bethesda proved themselves when it comes to Fallout 4. Way too early to say if the writing/story/setting is neat, but the gameplay is looking really good. Fallout still feels like its own thing instead of trying to ape things from Skyrim.

Doom looks fun.

[Great Rumbler]

Surely they'll have more than just two voices for the PC, I can't imagine they would cheap out there with all the detail they're putting into the game.

[eleuin]

City building looks so good, like those wasteland defense mods x100

[Eel O'Brian]

I don't normally buy Collector's Editions of games, but I've bought both of the previous FO CEs, and I'll get this one. They always do really cool replicas of in-game items, like the lunchbox and bobblehead in FO3, and the cards/chips for FO:NV.

[Himu]

The only thing I didn't get info I would have liked on the demo was questing/role playing. You have a really a really in depth origin so I'm curious how they'll handle the questing/gameplay, but everyone you knew is dead so maybe this time you'll be more proactive in questing compared to 3.

[Human Snorenado]

...so, who else is gonna get a collector's edition for the pip boy?

[mormapope]

The character creator looks a lot better and the player character model doesn't look like complete ass.

[Freyj]

The only thing I didn't get info I would have liked on the demo was questing/role playing. You have a really a really in depth origin so I'm curious how they'll handle the questing/gameplay, but everyone you knew is dead so maybe this time you'll be more proactive in questing compared to 3.

The only thing I remember was "you can follow him into the house or shoot him in the face", which is basically Bethesda "choices" in a nutshell.

[cool breeze]

people found this old list of rumors.  most are true, so multiplayer thing scrapped or announced later?

[Eel O'Brian]

He catches a lot of hell, but Todd Howard seems like a pretty cool dude. Kotaku used to have this podcast where they took call-ins, and Howard was a guest on one. People were letting him have it about ES and FO stuff (couple of them came off as real assholes), and he pretty much sat there and took it all and answered even the dumb shit I would have  at.

[Great Rumbler]

Yeah, he feels like a guy who is really passionate about making cool games, not just some PR talking head like some of the other studios trot out.

[huckleberry]

I don't normally buy Collector's Editions of games, but I've bought both of the previous FO CEs, and I'll get this one. They always do really cool replicas of in-game items, like the lunchbox and bobblehead in FO3, and the cards/chips for FO:NV.

I keep all my vape stuff in my fallout 3 lunchbox - the only collector's edition I've ever bought. Guess I gotta make it 2 now.

[Positive Touch]

DAMN IT I MISSED DOOM

YES YES YES THANK YOU RUMBLER AND THANK YOU DOOM I'M SO FUCKIN HYPED RIGHT NOW THEY PUT OPEN LEVELS IN AND THE MOVEMENT IS SO FAST FUCK IT LOOKS GREAT

[Eel O'Brian]

I mean, I'm not gonna run around the house naked wearing that pip-boy or anything*, but it'll look pretty cool on the desk next to the other FO CE stuff I have.

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*more than once

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[Cheddahz]

Fallout 4 won me over with the modular gun and armor shit. I'm such a sucker for that stuff

Game looks a lot better in motion too.


DOOM looks ok. Gameplay looks really standard. The melee kills are nice and all but meh

DOOM looks like the type of game for people into gore, violence, and BDSM type of shit

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sign me up

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[Himu]

The only thing I didn't get info I would have liked on the demo was questing/role playing. You have a really a really in depth origin so I'm curious how they'll handle the questing/gameplay, but everyone you knew is dead so maybe this time you'll be more proactive in questing compared to 3.

The only thing I remember was "you can follow him into the house or shoot him in the face", which is basically Bethesda "choices" in a nutshell.

Yeah, the black and white stuff where the "black" stuff is stuff no one with sense would do anyways (example: why bomb Megaton? What do you gain? When you bomb it, literally no one gives a shit anyways). Here's hoping they do better with that this time. Maybe voices will force them to curate more varied situations and role playing. Maybe.

[Eel O'Brian]

Your character looks like they're gonna be having a lot of pre-war flashbacks. That'll be pretty neat.

[Yulwei]

Really don't give two shits about the base building. I want to explore the world not play Horde mode: fallout edition.

Crafting system looks like it could be really fucking cool, but I guess it just depends on how much you can actually customize the base shooting function of your guns. I'm kind of weary after playing BL1 where every gun felt the same for hours and hours.

Best thing imo is the fact that this is coming out so soon. I was fully expecting this to launch November 2016.

[Eel O'Brian]

So basically you're probably a mental case who wants to rebuild the world and your life back to the way it was before, but that's never gonna happen because

[eleuin]

Fallout Shelter isn't on Android 

[Himu]

What I want to know is whether or not I can make my own town and play Sheriff.

[Cheddahz]

Fallout Shelter isn't on Android 

Coming out soon

[Human Snorenado]

Fallout Shelter isn't on Android 

Coming out soon

Where does it say this? I couldn't find anything about it.

[Eel O'Brian]

https://mobile.twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/610294314288021504

[Human Snorenado]

Also, obligatory LULZ @ EUROS CRYING FOR FALLOUT IN EUROPELAND

CRY MOAR, EUROS

[Human Snorenado]

https://mobile.twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/610294314288021504

I don't care if I get it months later, just wanna play. Looks fun to fuck around with.

[fizzel]

I'm more offended about the weapon wheel turning the game slow-mo. 

[Eel O'Brian]

Consider the courageous hellspawn out there alone tonight, triggered and traumatized by that demo.

[Himu]

Not that I disagree, but it's like, what the fuck were you expecting? It's fucking Doom. This is why it's much better to just fuck everything else, enjoy the fuckery, and not buy what the mass market gaming consumer culture tells you to buy. Find alternative games; they are out there. I found it gross and disgusting too, but I'm not going to say shit because I know that's what that audience wants. Don't like it? Find a new hobby. There are many more hobbies much more enriching than fucking video games Feminist Frequency.

[Eel O'Brian]

Perhaps they'll take the criticism to heart and have a setting where you settle your differences with the minions of Satan via a rousing match 3 minigame.

[Human Snorenado]

I'm personally deeply offended that I can't preorder the collector's edition of Fallout 4 FUCKING ANYWHERE right now

 

[Kara]

So basically you're probably a mental case who wants to rebuild the world and your life back to the way it was before, but that's never gonna happen because

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Still not as rad as playing Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines as a Malkavian.

[Human Snorenado]

Further also, I want to like Sarkeesian and agree with her but WHY DOES SHE HAVE TO BE SO FUCKING HUMORLESS AND UNLIKABLE.

[Eel O'Brian]

You can be right about a few things and still be a fucking asshole

[OnlyRegret]

Why no to options tho???
https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/610277027367661568

Edit: Real talk though, McIntosh is a massive prick

[Eel O'Brian]

Remember when Doom was a thoughtful  point and click adventure about exploring your sexuality? This world has turned to shit.

[Kara]

Isn't Dishonored full of a level of violence that wouldn't be considered normal too?

[Eel O'Brian]

You can play through without killing anyone (directly).

[mormapope]

Speaking of Doom, is there any point in executing enemies versus just blowing them apart? No matter what the enemies dropped ammo and other goodies once they're dead. I'd be fine if the executions don't give you anything extra, but it would be sorta shitty if that mechanic is pointless from the start.

[Eel O'Brian]

I liked Pac-Man better when it wasn't just a celebration of gluttony and excess

[Himu]

Hating on grotesque violence and gore

How did you pansies even end up playing videogames? Shit is, has, and always will be violent as fuck.

Eh, that's debatable. Prior to recent gens, violence in games has always been kinda cartoony even when it was really gore-y. It was kinda like Itchy and Scratchy I guess. But the better graphics get the more it will bother people. I don't see the issue. It's why I can't play MK9 or X but never had an issue with MK1-3.

[toku]

[Stoney Mason]

She gives awful criticism for the most part and I rarely agree with her. Complaining about the gore of Doom is about the oddest thing I've ever heard of. But there will always be a contingent of over-concerned moralists and parents who fall into her target audience.

[Shaka Khan]

Fallout looked awesome until I realized the dialog is ripped from Mass Effect— 4 vague options with almost no correlation to the actual spoken lines. Thanks VA. Thanks Bioware.

[Eel O'Brian]

Fine line between good intentions and demagoguery

[mormapope]

The base building aspect of Fallout 4 is perfect for post game content. On my recent New Vegas playthrough, a melee build with 10 luck combined with the Dead Money DLC helped me amass a huge amount of chips. I've done everything in the game except for the Old World Blues/Lonesome Road DLC and have 25,000 caps on me at all times. I also have the majority of unique melee weapons, looted and bought from traders.

Having a ton of caps or resources and being able to do nothing with either sorta ends a long playthrough. Being able to build anything using resources/caps would lead to really extravagant bases or towns. Being able to raid another person's creation would be rad.

[studyguy]

Absolutely, positively not feeling that canned response from voice acted shit.
That's cutting the fucking legs out of the entire dialogue tree in Fallout. Fuck all of that.

[Himu]

Hating on grotesque violence and gore

How did you pansies even end up playing videogames? Shit is, has, and always will be violent as fuck.

Eh, that's debatable. Prior to recent gens, violence in games has always been kinda cartoony even when it was really gore-y. It was kinda like Itchy and Scratchy I guess. But the better graphics get the more it will bother people. I don't see the issue.

Nah, people saw it as an issue back then. Doom, Mortal Kombat, etc. all had parents shitting themselves back in the day. In that "will somebody please think of the children?!" kind of way. It's nothing new.

I just think it's completely idiotic. It can not be your thing, but it's just entertainment. I for one am a big fan of excessive blood and gore from Horror flicks to old school anime to videogames. Again, it's just entertainment. What harm can it really do on it's own? And most importantly, who the fuck cares?

Just because parents and politicians were making news about game violence back then doesn't mean more realistic graphics won't make people more uncomfortable with video game gore.

I personally don't care. I don't buy those games and I limit the gore in the games I do play to a fault. I found Doom to be disgusting and gross, so it doesn't interest me. But I'm not going to bitch about it because it's fucking Doom. This doesn't make her overall criticisms incorrect it's just that she's a moron, because again, it's bloody Doom.

[mormapope]

Personal characterization and role playing will definitely take a hit with voiced player characters. If that was the main draw of Fallout for a person, this new stuff would definitely be a bummer.

Personally though, the role playing bits of Fallout 3 and to a greater extent New Vegas complimented those games rather than make or break those games. I'm the type of person that likes to do most of the shit in a RPG, take a long break, and then do it again using different builds or options.

[OnlyRegret]

So...
How about that Hearthstone Legends?

Cinematic trailers and card games don't mesh well.

[studyguy]

Follow on the heels of the industry brehs
That last bit, I thought they were announcing their own amibos

[mormapope]

Also, the player character's backstory is easy as fuck to guess.

You get blown the fuck up, but survive as a wrangled ghoul. A team of people or doctors rescue you a bit after the fallout/war and experiment on you to de-ghoul you, to provide a cure for people that become ghouls. Eventually you're close to being cured and get put into some sort of goo chamber that will finish up the process/let you heal from all the experimentation.

Vault drama happens and you're the only survivor left in the fault. You come out of the goo tube, find ambiguous logs and records of what happened. Something is left behind telling you where to go after the vault is opened, starting the main quest of the game.

[Himu]

Personal characterization and role playing will definitely take a hit with voiced player characters. If that was the main draw of Fallout for a person, this new stuff would definitely be a bummer.

Personally though, the role playing bits of Fallout 3 and to a greater extent New Vegas complimented those games rather than make or break those games. I'm the type of person that likes to do most of the shit in a RPG, take a long break, and then do it again using different builds or options.

As a role player, I think I'm just going to wait it out, wait till the game loses steam and hype, then see how people feel about it. As good as it looks, there's too many variables that could make for a much worse game for what I want from fallout. Which is fine, a part of my apprehension towards 4 to begin with was that I highly doubt it'll top New Vegas. I realize now that I'm not really the target audience here and I'm fine with that. I have alternatives like Witcher 3.

[fizzel]

I'm a spergling for the original fallout, my anguish for the death of decent dialogue trees and skill checks is long since spent.

[studyguy]

$10 says you and your family get in, you get knocked out and go into a coma.
They put you in cryosleep or some shit while things go south.
Your wife and kid are gone, you gotta find them.

This is bethesda writing brehs. This is basically gonna be the flip side of Fallout 3, instead you're the parent looking for the kid or someshit.

[mormapope]

As a role player, I think I'm just going to wait it out, wait till the game loses steam and hype, then see how people feel about it. As good as it looks, there's too many variables that could make for a much worse game for what I want from fallout. Which is fine, a part of my apprehension towards 4 to begin with was that I highly doubt it'll top New Vegas. I realize now that I'm not really the target audience here and I'm fine with that. I have alternatives like Witcher 3.

When it comes to what dialog choices will be provided, I can only see three or four "main" role playing narratives for the player character.

A. Attempting to make the world like it once was, peaceful suburbia, normalized civilization. The quest to reclaim the past.

B. "Fuck it" attitude. You despise what life has become, all the things you lost. You'll be a huge, evil asshole that wants to ruin the world your own way.

C. Neither of those attitudes apply, you want to do your own thing for the benefit of yourself and maybe some others. You don't want to fix or ruin the world, you just want to make it better for yourself.

New Vegas has a lot of ambiguity when it comes to your role in the Wasteland and the roles of others. I don't see that ambiguity coming back at all.

[studyguy]

Obsidian was behind New Vegas, Beth writing is like a fart in the wind compared to it.

[Kara]

So...
How about that Hearthstone Legends?

Cinematic trailers and card games don't mesh well.

hearthstone has sparkles n shit, digital card games were a mistake they're nothing but trash *plays with fetchlands irl*

[Shaka Khan]

$10 says you and your family get in, you get knocked out and go into a coma.
They put you in cryosleep or some shit while things go south.
Your wife and kid are gone, you gotta find them.

This is bethesda writing brehs. This is basically gonna be the flip side of Fallout 3, instead you're the parent looking for the kid or someshit.

Thank you, Last of Us