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Playing Dragon Age Inquisition after Witcher 3
« on: July 14, 2015, 03:27:32 AM »
This is my first time playing the game and here are some thoughts.

The bad:

-Writing is terrible, like really really bad. After 4 hours of playing I have zero investment in anything I am doing and have had zero interesting conversations.

-Plot is laughable as well. Within 5 minutes of starting the game you are already the chosen one to save the world. No build up or anything. At least old Bioware had the decency of creating a build up.

-Quests are meaningless. Please collect 10 raw meat people are hungry. Please find 5 caches people are cold. Please close 2 rifts monsters are coming.   Liberating camps, finding landmarks, finding glowing skulls to find glowing shards. I've played this game before and it was called World of Warcraft.

-The Hinterlands is probably one of the worst first zones I have ever seen. It is so crammed with "stuff" you can't walk two meters without stumbling into some shit.  Who thought it was a good idea to have the first zone be a hilly mess? The first zone is never supposed to be hilly you noobs.


The good:

-Graphics and music are good

-Lot of options on how to develop a character

-Combat is fun so far

-Banter between party members


I'm enjoying the game so far in a weird way. Seems EA took all criticism of 2 on board, then went overboard with applying the Ubisoft approach to content. All this while forgetting to hire writers to write a fucking story.
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Re: Playing Dragon Age Inquisition after Witcher 3
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2015, 08:30:37 AM »
As I said in the Witcher 3 thread, Dragon Age: Inquisition is the Saturday morning cartoon to Witcher 3's HBO series. Both have their own appeal, but...
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Re: Playing Dragon Age Inquisition after Witcher 3
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2015, 10:01:19 AM »
-The Hinterlands is probably one of the worst first zones I have ever seen. It is so crammed with "stuff" you can't walk two meters without stumbling into some shit.  Who thought it was a good idea to have the first zone be a hilly mess? The first zone is never supposed to be hilly you noobs.

Honestly other than tile swaps, the other zones aren't especially different. You do the same stuff in all of them.

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Re: Playing Dragon Age Inquisition after Witcher 3
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2015, 11:03:14 AM »
The entire Dragon Age Inquisition main story is like 4 or 5 short missions long when you parse it out without side quests.
It's pretty fucking silly
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Re: Playing Dragon Age Inquisition after Witcher 3
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2015, 11:59:16 AM »
DA:I combat was so boring. Quit after a couple hours
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Re: Playing Dragon Age Inquisition after Witcher 3
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2015, 02:05:41 PM »
Dragon Inquisition would be very hard to do a replay through of. It's just not that kind of game. And if you try to do everything on the first go around you'll burn out and stop.

So its this mix of finding out how much you can tolerate and not going any further than that.

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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2015, 02:45:39 PM »
-The Hinterlands is probably one of the worst first zones I have ever seen. It is so crammed with "stuff" you can't walk two meters without stumbling into some shit.  Who thought it was a good idea to have the first zone be a hilly mess? The first zone is never supposed to be hilly you noobs.

Honestly other than tile swaps, the other zones aren't especially different. You do the same stuff in all of them.

I liked the canyon oasis and the night desert zones, but most of the others left little real impact on me.
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Re: Playing Dragon Age Inquisition after Witcher 3
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2015, 03:53:18 PM »
Dragon Inquisition would be very hard to do a replay through of. It's just not that kind of game. And if you try to do everything on the first go around you'll burn out and stop.

So its this mix of finding out how much you can tolerate and not going any further than that.

That last sentence feels true, was running around doing quests and got bored, but I had enough "currency" to progress the main quest so Ill just do that till I have to "grind" again

Feels like mobile game design

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Re: Playing Dragon Age Inquisition after Witcher 3
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2015, 04:08:40 PM »
Dragon Inquisition would be very hard to do a replay through of. It's just not that kind of game. And if you try to do everything on the first go around you'll burn out and stop.

So its this mix of finding out how much you can tolerate and not going any further than that.
Sounds very much like Kingdoms of Amalur.

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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2015, 04:15:57 PM »
Dragon Inquisition would be very hard to do a replay through of. It's just not that kind of game. And if you try to do everything on the first go around you'll burn out and stop.

So its this mix of finding out how much you can tolerate and not going any further than that.
Sounds very much like Kingdoms of Amalur.

You're not wrong. It is a lot better than Amalur, though.
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Re: Playing Dragon Age Inquisition after Witcher 3
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2015, 05:54:39 AM »
Yeah Kingdoms of Amalur, think I quit that within an hour when I saw the quest design.

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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2015, 12:32:13 PM »
I don't know how you could do this since Witcher 3 shits on Dragon Age Inquisition.

Inquisition is possibly one of the worst wrpgs I've played which isn't saying much since I obviously prefer JRPGS. I don't mind linear  narratives with some actual structure to them. Which is why I find the game to be garbage. See, I like the Wicther series. They actually have structure and pacing, which keeps them from feeling overwhelming. Even big ass open games like Skyrim which I do find overwhelming by how many quests it throws at you at least compartmentalizes things.

IN the Witcher 2 you go from area to area. You stay in that area until you complete the main quest of that area all while doing a few non lazily designed side quests. There's actual pacing and since of routine and structure. Sure, Witcher 3 becomes far more open but there's always a since of direction with the questing. Dragon Age I did not have any of this. Too me it felt like it was always constantly throwing all this shit and systems at me without me ever knowing what I was doing. It didn't at all feel natural. In the Witcher 3 which I haven't beat you start in an Epilogue that's closed off, you then go to the countryside of Novigard which then slowly moves you into quests in Novigard. Sure you can go off and do whatever the fuck you want and find things far beyond your level, but the game actually still guides you. It actually feels like some sort of focus. Inquisition feels like a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, constantly jumping around to the point that I don't understand where the story is or where I got there. Event's just seem to happen. The game has no pacing.

The level design of something like the Wicther 3 feels better. Quite honestly, the areas feel like actual places. Not just big sandbox places made big for the sake of it yet filled with barriers. There's actual cohesion and thought to make places feel like a thought out world. In Inquisition they feel like video game zones.

Now it's not like Witcher 3 has the best combat, but at least it's not like dull and feels like I'm actually doing shit. The feedback and slashing action in Dragon Age is like drinking diet coke, it taste like air with no punch. Stupid comparison? Maybe, but I think it works. It just feels like shit, I don't know how to explain it. Most encouters seemed to have always played out the same and the AI seems idiotic so the most tactical thing I did was tell people who are supposed to be range to stay well ranged...But since the game is supposed to be a bit more action based the actual action part always felt so lifeless and like I wasn't in control. The game wanted to present itself as an action rpg, but seemed like it was scared to actually be one.

Quests in Dragon Age are shitty. They are not in the Witcher 3. There's nothing more to be said.

The Witcher 3 is a better game.

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Re: Playing Dragon Age Inquisition after Witcher 3
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2015, 01:15:07 PM »
I think we all agree on that W3>DAi

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Re: Playing Dragon Age Inquisition after Witcher 3
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2015, 12:13:04 AM »
I'm gonna be a cranky little bitch if Witcher 3 doesn't win a lot of goty awards like Dragon Age did.

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Re: Playing Dragon Age Inquisition after Witcher 3
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2015, 12:19:44 AM »
Witcher 3 is gonna win a lot of awards, don't worry about that.
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Re: Playing Dragon Age Inquisition after Witcher 3
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2015, 12:22:27 AM »
This has a six hours of free single player and also free multiplayer forever offer on Origin right now.

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Re: Playing Dragon Age Inquisition after Witcher 3
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2015, 12:45:38 AM »
It's only free "forever" so long as you keep it installed past the 21st.

The multiplayer isn't gripping me, at all. Mass Effects was kinda compelling but this one just seems "soul less" compared to that one.

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Re: Playing Dragon Age Inquisition after Witcher 3
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2015, 12:49:22 AM »
Is it? I just clicked on it and didn't read any of the details because, free. :lol

I assumed it might have a separate multiplayer client like the Call of Duty games.

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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2015, 01:02:10 AM »
https://twitter.com/ehlien/status/621023603132203008

Seems like they'll let you redownload it past the 21st if you "own" the trial, but it's hard to say. Their wording about it being a limited time thing is awful and stupid.  :lol

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Re: Playing Dragon Age Inquisition after Witcher 3
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2015, 01:11:30 AM »
Oh, yeah, I think they just mean you have to tie it to your account. Everything stays in your fucking Origin account, I have like four Battlefield betas or something still in there that clicking on does nothing. Two Hardline ones alone.

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« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2015, 01:24:24 AM »
Yeah, so do I. You can hide those in the client, though. :-*

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« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2015, 01:27:47 AM »
Yeah, I have those and like three copies of Peggle hidden. (I think they must have come from the Humble Bundles.)

I also had activated all my keys that I had for games as backups before I knew EA was going to give them all away through humble bundles so have some duplicates that way. That's what I get for wanting Dead Space 3 just to complete the set even though I've never played it and probably won't.

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« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2015, 01:46:35 AM »
It's only free "forever" so long as you keep it installed past the 21st.

The multiplayer isn't gripping me, at all. Mass Effects was kinda compelling but this one just seems "soul less" compared to that one.

Mass Effect 3 had a vastly superior combat system in general, better maps, and better enemies. It also had their "junior" studio handling the multiplayer as training so there was more support.

Anyways Dragon Age is just a poorly managed, directionless franchise. DA3 reminds me of the worst aspects of ME1 except that game was a first in a series and came out in 2007.

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Re: Playing Dragon Age Inquisition after Witcher 3
« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2015, 08:52:57 AM »
Anyways Dragon Age is just a poorly managed, directionless franchise. DA3 reminds me of the worst aspects of ME1 except that game was a first in a series and came out in 2007.

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Got a point, I already put it up for sale as there just really isn't anything that would make me come back for a play session.

Just can't be arsed to spend another 30 hours doing these boring quests and story. Made it to the oasis.

Think I'll just give this franchise and Bioware a pass from now on.

Didn't finish ME3, DA2, DA3... (Star Wars was alright) I think they lost it.

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« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2015, 10:10:12 AM »
I was like 90 hours in and still had a little bit to go but I put it on hold and haven't been back. I debate going back to finish it all the time but can never motivate myself to.


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« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2015, 10:22:41 AM »
Anyways Dragon Age is just a poorly managed, directionless franchise. DA3 reminds me of the worst aspects of ME1 except that game was a first in a series and came out in 2007.

I thought DA3 was a universally praised game but now everyone seems down on it? Haven't played it but gameplay footage I saw in GT review looked meh. Felt kinda like a pariah because everyone was raving about this game it looked like doo doo for the most part.
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Re: Playing Dragon Age Inquisition after Witcher 3
« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2015, 10:25:38 AM »
It makes a very good early impression but the more you play the more it wears on you.

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Re: Playing Dragon Age Inquisition after Witcher 3
« Reply #27 on: July 21, 2015, 10:48:24 AM »
I felt like a lot of the impressions were kinda the same on here: the game can be alright at best but you usually spend your time doing aimless busywork so it gets boring fast.

I did everything in the game except kill a few of the superbosses, and it's definitely a struggle to remember the high points of the game. like lots of ppl said, it feels like an Ubisoft product.
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