The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=204176787&postcount=256

Holy shit really? Lol.

[mormapope]

Sleep paralysis or something like it accounts for every single alien abduction ever.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Sleep paralysis or something like it accounts for every single alien abduction ever.

Or just plain being fucked up in the head.

[Tasty]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204170856&postcount=2069

:|

LOL wtf, why was cosmicblizzard banned

[D3RANG3D]

Cuz Social Studies Warriors.

[bork]

And hey...how about that apology to China, Japan? 

[VomKriege]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=204176787&postcount=256

Oh fuck I saw that yesterday but didn't realize it was HUELEN 

[Am_I_Anonymous]

And hey...how about that apology to China, Japan? 

Or Korea.

[octopushover]

Um, sure. But this isn't Japan as a nation asking for an apology, it's civilians who survived a nuclear bomb. The Archbishop of Canterbury apologized to Dresden for the firebombings, which are really the only events comparable to what happened in Japan.

Japan already apologized for Pearl Harbour anyway.

[Jansen]

Cosmicblizzard got banned for that comment? And the other guy did not? What is going on with NeoGAF lately?

nah i think he got banned for the zoe quinn thread

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1221678

Never said I agreed with her or even enjoy her content.  Only heard about her from people I follow that are friends with her like h3h3, but she just seems to have a slightly more passionate view than a surprisingly large amount of biggish internet personalities, which just confuses me more.

Well yeah, that's doxxing, plain and simple.  I think there's a discussion to be had there on what can justify it (swatting for example deserves real life consequences), but I'm not entirely comfortable drawing the line at just being a jerk (provided there's no direct threats) or holding certain beliefs on the internet.

Those are direct threats, so they're not what I'm talking about.

You just said Gamergate, and as despicable as they are, I don't believe the entirety of the movement takes part in death and rape threats.  Non-threatening harassment generally isn't illegal, in which case we should be holding the social media platforms responsible to stick to their actual rules, not encourage vigilantism.

Thought I understood it for a while, but something always comes along to confuse me.  It seems to boil down to MRAs vs third wave feminism, at least as a super simplified explanation of it.  It's hard to find unbiased sources and all that, but it doesn't seem to be an entirely black and white issue (even though one side is FAR more "black" than the other).

Edit: Yeah, and didn't the ex-boyfriend coin the term Quinspiracy and not gamergate?  It's been a while.

Every time I've tried to learn things from the perspective of the more passionate and visible people in GG (and anti-GG to a lesser extent), it always seems like they're just talking past each other and a ton of misunderstandings are born and then people misunderstanding the clarifications.  Sometimes it just feels like one big semantics argument, but then the harassment and doxxing comes in and it just becomes a mess.

Oh, I'm not denying any of that, or at least there's little evidence to the contrary.  One side is clearly far more disproportionately bad than the other as far as damage caused. 

Though I would argue that GG as a whole isn't well-organized at all and I can't discern any kind of unified message from them based on the research I've done, whereas the anti side is pretty clear in what GG is, and as you said there are some hot-headed individuals among them that tend to see it everywhere even when it's not relevant like Graham Linehan.  That of course doesn't make the movement itself any less disgusting, at least my muddled understanding of it.

I'm still seeing it from internet personalities that won't let it go, even if a lot have shed the label.  Like I watch Shoe0nhead or her boyfriend talk about gamergate on the pro side and then I go to gaf and watch actual victims talk about it on the anti side and it just feels like people are talking about completely different things.

Though I've only admittedly tried to learn about it in any great capacity recently, it's still confusing.

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202952953&postcount=188

That's an extremely unreliable figure.

 

[Phoenix Dark]

Dropping the bomb was necessary and saved lives that would have been lost in a bloody ground invasion or prolonged bombing campaign.

[bork]

And hey...how about that apology to China, Japan? 

Or Korea.

They did some stuff already.

This takes me back to my JET days.  The way WWII stuff was presented to the students was so one-sided...as in "let's ignore all the other shit that happened -and make Japan look like victims only- because of the A-bombs."

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Boogie has done some nice writeups as to why there wasn't much choice but to nuke Japan (the alternative being a brutal guerrilla war).  It put an ending to a war that killed over 60 million people.  Also at the time, there was a very real feeling that World War III was around the corner with the USSR.  A couple nukes was a sign to Stalin to back the fuck off.

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1221879

 

[cosmicblizzard]

Ban message was just a generic "not fit for the forum" thing and got a perm, so don't know entirely why I was banned.  If it was the Quinn thread, I think I may have been misunderstood into downplaying GG.

[brawndolicious]

people apologize for wartime decisions all the time, regardless of whether or not they're necessary

i don't think it's somehow unbelievable to say "this was a shitty situation and it was unavoidable, but if we could have avoided it we would have so we're sorry."

i guess that's the difference between remembrance day and memorial day though. 

Agree but I'm with PD. We don't owe them an apology. Not one bit. They hit us first.

It's kinda like you'd never apologize for knocking out a guy who sucker punched you for no reason.

The US and everyone else knew that cutting off oil to Japan would cripple Japan and would likely provoke a war. The attack wasn't unexpected at all and even though Japan committed several atrocities in WW2, Pearl Harbor was a naval base so it's far more legitimate of a target than civilian centers.

I don't think Japan believed that they could defeat the US, but to just reduce their naval capacity in a way that lets Japan not lose the war they were already in. They failed at that.

[agrajag]

Ban message was just a generic "not fit for the forum" thing and got a perm, so don't know entirely why I was banned.  If it was the Quinn thread, I think I may have been misunderstood into downplaying GG.

Take that as a compliment.

[king of the internet]

Ban message was just a generic "not fit for the forum" thing and got a perm, so don't know entirely why I was banned.  If it was the Quinn thread, I think I may have been misunderstood into downplaying GG.

Isn't that similar to the message your pedo buddy with the bikini toddler avatar got? Interesting.

[agrajag]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204171139&postcount=2076

The numbers don't add up and they've never added up. We have metrics for this. People trying to downplay stuff like this is the impetus for the rest.

is this guy a fucking statistician? 

[benjipwns]

We have metrics for how many people disliked a YouTube video because "it's not like the originals in multiple ways" vs. just plain sexists who would like it if it were men? I need to go look at my YouTube metrics again, they sure have added a lot since I last looked.

[benjipwns]

The difference between Hiroshima and the Iraq war was that one was necessary at the time, the other wasn't.

Exactly. Japan was defeated already as feature film anime debuted in 1944, Saddam had nuclear weapons ready to go using the same terrorists he used for 9/11 as proven by a centrifuge they found buried by a building and the exhaustive evidence of Laurie Mylroie that the Bush Administration tried to cover up.

[stufte]

Ban message was just a generic "not fit for the forum" thing and got a perm, so don't know entirely why I was banned.  If it was the Quinn thread, I think I may have been misunderstood into downplaying GG.

Yah, you have to very specifically virtue signal that you are 100% against anything even remotely resembling GG, otherwise you're doomed. It's best just to let them circlejerk about it for a few pages and ignore it.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Ban message was just a generic "not fit for the forum" thing and got a perm, so don't know entirely why I was banned.  If it was the Quinn thread, I think I may have been misunderstood into downplaying GG.

Other people who are a fit for the forum: pedophiles and pedophile sympathizers

[Phoenix Dark]

I don't see nerds shitting on the Transformers or TMNT films to nearly the degree Ghostbusters is being shat on. It's clear there's some sexism going on. But honestly my biggest problem is that it's lazy diversity to mask how depleted Hollywood is of ideas. Everything is an adaption or remake now. Everything is a franchise or "cinematic universe." I'm sorry but taking something and making it all women or all black does not impress me. Neither did making Thor a woman impress me or change anything. It's just a cheap gimmick to make money while the status quo remains the same.

And for the love of God I don't want to see that black chick from SNL again. Is she just "the loud black woman" in everything? That shit is not cool or funny.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Yeah it appears to be yet another remake with a shocking new twist!  Hard to get worked up over this one unless it is that yucky girls are now starring in the movie.  It has a $150 million budget, just let it bomb, have 1000 wankpieces about how sexism caused the movie to fail, and by the end of the year, it will be totally forgotten.

[Phoenix Dark]

It reminds me of Nintendo looking for new gimmicks to sell their old stale ideas with.

"Let's remake The Goonies with all girls, and replace the Asian kid with a transgender girl"
"Awesome, let me call up some Salon writers now"

[Let's Cyber]

Those shitty, bland remakes of Total Recall and RoboCop would have killed for this kind of push 

These trailers and all the man children crying about said trailers have generated a ton of buzz, the studio execs must be very happy.

[Phoenix Dark]

Robocop was probably the only recent remake I remember getting heavily shat on, and that was mainly over it not being violent enough to be R rated. Nerds would have been fine if it was just as shitty but had more violence and f bombs...

Seriously TMNT is an abortion and hasn't angered nerds that much. I loved TMNT as a kid more than Ghostbusters or anything else and will admit I was legit rustled when I saw the new movie trailer. It pissed me off and then I remembered I'm an adult and moved on. Whereas the Ghostbusters trailer was just "wow that looks like trash. Anyway..." It's not an abortion of epic magnitudes like Bay's Transformers/Turtles. It's just a shitty remake.

[parallax]

despite looking like something i would have feared as a kid, the turtles movie wasnt bad.

[agrajag]

I think the fact that it's an all female Ghostbusters team definitely has to do with a lot of the hate, but not in the way that screams sexism to me, necessarily. Sure, some of it is sexism. But I think that a lot of people see it for the gimmick that it is, just like you guys are acknowledging so in this thread.

[thisismyusername]

Gran Turismo stanleys losing their shit because people aren't impressed with GT Sport

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204180331&postcount=1007

Someone tell me how to get paid to damage control billion dollar corporations. I could use the cash

Replay doesn't add polygons, lighting or similar that can be so different compared to real gamplay.

Oh GAF...

[doctavius bonbon]

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?p=204210270



Everyone's so wrapped up in the teddie censorship, rather than the fact that this cop is so fucking weird holy shit.

[bork]

Robocop was probably the only recent remake I remember getting heavily shat on, and that was mainly over it not being violent enough to be R rated. Nerds would have been fine if it was just as shitty but had more violence and f bombs...

Seriously TMNT is an abortion and hasn't angered nerds that much. I loved TMNT as a kid more than Ghostbusters or anything else and will admit I was legit rustled when I saw the new movie trailer. It pissed me off and then I remembered I'm an adult and moved on. Whereas the Ghostbusters trailer was just "wow that looks like trash. Anyway..." It's not an abortion of epic magnitudes like Bay's Transformers/Turtles. It's just a shitty remake.

I remember plenty of backlash against TMNT and Bayformers.  TMNT was garbage on another level compared to all these other movies.

My thing about stuff like Total Recall and Robocop is that these movies just feel unnecessary.  Nobody asked for remakes.  Nobody asked for Ghostbusters to be remade with this all female cast, too-- but hey, if it's good, I'll see it.  The thing is, none of the trailers have sold me.  I see GAF saying this new UK one is better:

https://amp.twimg.com/v/0b58a8a8-a2bd-4ca7-b1f2-beb9854fa5b1

But I'm still not caring.  And that's OK.  It's just a fucking movie.  1984 Ghostbusters will still be there.

[thisismyusername]

Personally I don't think an apology should be made.

An apology to the citizens should be made, but to the country? Fuck no, your emperor brought that shit on you. I feel horrible for the survivors and have no idea what nightmare they went through, but their country is completely to blame for the fact their country DIDN'T stop  after the first bomb dropped and they were warned a second one would drop if they didn't surrender immediately.

And hey...how about that apology to China, Japan? 

Also this. Not to mention Unit 731. Japan wants to brush that and other warcrimes under the rug and then their citizens want other nations to apologize for doing the same (but not as bad) things as them? I like Japan, but their censorship on shit they did in WW2 (and elsewhere) to where there is this active denial toward that sort of thing is scuzzy as hell.

I think I may have been misunderstood into downplaying GG.

Your mistake was:



NEVER discuss Gamergate pro/cons or any of that shit on GAF. Never. Don't even do it in topics like that Nintendo Employee being fired thread. You expect GAF mods to allow you to play devil's advocate and have a discussion on these things they have deemed "no-no?"

[agrajag]

NEVER discuss Gamergate pro/cons or any of that shit on GAF. Never.

there ya go

[thisismyusername]

NEVER discuss Gamergate pro/cons or any of that shit on GAF. Never.

there ya go

In an unrelated note:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/4k83b4/2_employees_of_ea_games_with_opposing_political/

[agrajag]

Reddit is too hard for me to follow. Must be getting old..

[meeb]

Ban message was just a generic "not fit for the forum" thing and got a perm, so don't know entirely why I was banned.  If it was the Quinn thread, I think I may have been misunderstood into downplaying GG.

Other people who are a fit for the forum: pedophiles and pedophile sympathizers

If that were true then why is Cosmic's ban a perma?

[Kara]

Alright, which one of you wrote the dialog for Shadowrun: Dragonfall?

[zomgee]

Ban message was just a generic "not fit for the forum" thing and got a perm, so don't know entirely why I was banned.  If it was the Quinn thread, I think I may have been misunderstood into downplaying GG.

Why do they call me 'bad fit?'
I said "Gamergate," that's it.
Oh, well NeoGAF eat shit
Seems I don't fit in.

[brawndolicious]

Yeah it appears to be yet another remake with a shocking new twist!  Hard to get worked up over this one unless it is that yucky girls are now starring in the movie.  It has a $150 million budget, just let it bomb, have 1000 wankpieces about how sexism caused the movie to fail, and by the end of the year, it will be totally forgotten.

I don't think it'll bomb. All A lot of the parents that took their kids to The Force Awakens will take their kids to Ghostbusters and vicariously relive their childhood again until Rogue One. But with more girl power and less nicotine because progressive stuff happened.

I dunno, it just doesn't seem like a bombable movie.

[thisismyusername]

Yeah it appears to be yet another remake with a shocking new twist!  Hard to get worked up over this one unless it is that yucky girls are now starring in the movie.  It has a $150 million budget, just let it bomb, have 1000 wankpieces about how sexism caused the movie to fail, and by the end of the year, it will be totally forgotten.

I don't think it'll bomb. All A lot of the parents that took their kids to The Force Awakens will take their kids to Ghostbusters and vicariously relive their childhood again until Rogue One. But with more girl power and less nicotine because progressive stuff happened.

I dunno, it just doesn't seem like a bombable movie.

Everyone I know seems to think the jokes in the trailers they've shown so far haven't landed at all. I dunno, I don't see anyone looking forward to the film.

Reddit is too hard for me to follow. Must be getting old..

Follow the nested comments, old man. Even Slashdot of 1999-2000 had the same commenting system.

The gist is: Someone at Maxis(?) is apparently a "nazi" for doing a nazi salute and another EA employee (that isn't freelance like the one being accused) thinks that is "bad for the brand" and decided to come to /r/drama to "doxx" the person. Person being accused don't give a shit, person that is being accused don't care. Anyway, the accuser gave them "48 hours" or whatever to come forward. It's such a stupid but amusing "game industry" drama, because if the person can identify the masked person as the person being accused, it'll make for some good mental gymnastics over at GAF with "BUT THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE DOXXED THE NAZI THO!"

[VomKriege]

Total Recall remake was a surprisingly decent action flick and not at all slavish to the original (It's about invading neo Australia via the high speed subway through earth core. Yeah). It's also cookie cutter and mediocre, but it's worth a shot if it's up your alley. Beckinsale steals the show hard too

Much better than I, Robot (yeah there's stuff with robots too), which is the most similar film to it.

[fistfulofmetal]

I love threads about who takes who's name after marriage. Always reveals the diet misogynists who hide behind "tradition".

[agrajag]

Total Recall remake was a surprisingly decent action flick and not at all slavish to the original (It's about invading neo Australia via the high speed subway through earth core. Yeah). It's also cookie cutter and mediocre, but it's worth a shot if it's up your alley. Beckinsale steals the show hard too

Much better than I, Robot (yeah there's stuff with robots too), which is the most similar film to it.

I thought the art design in Total Recall was really cool. It had some nice, inspired scenery. It was a forgettable film, but benign. Nowhere near Verhoeven's charm and quirkiness or the Ahnold's charisma... but yeah, Kate Beckinsale and Jessica Alba provided some nice eye candy at least.

Reddit is too hard for me to follow. Must be getting old..

Follow the nested comments, old man. Even Slashdot of 1999-2000 had the same commenting system.

The gist is: Someone at Maxis(?) is apparently a "nazi" for doing a nazi salute and another EA employee (that isn't freelance like the one being accused) thinks that is "bad for the brand" and decided to come to /r/drama to "doxx" the person. Person being accused don't give a shit, person that is being accused don't care. Anyway, the accuser gave them "48 hours" or whatever to come forward. It's such a stupid but amusing "game industry" drama, because if the person can identify the masked person as the person being accused, it'll make for some good mental gymnastics over at GAF with "BUT THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE DOXXED THE NAZI THO!"

He should've "doxxed" him to the company, so they don't employ the freelancer's services anymore and not damage the brand.. not go on reddit like a caped crusader.

[nachobro]

I love threads about who takes who's name after marriage. Always reveals the diet misogynists who hide behind "tradition".

[Phoenix Dark]

As long as my male heir carries the last name of my House it's all good. 

[Am_I_Anonymous]

As long as my male heir carries the last name of my House it's all good. 

Kids don't come from penis admiration breh. Better hope one of your straighter brothers gets shit done.

[FStop7]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=204176787&postcount=256

Come the fuck on.

[Mr. Nobody]

Hyphenated names 

[agrajag]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=204176787&postcount=256

Come the fuck on.

 

[Kara]

Hyphenated names 

Names

[FStop7]

Alright, which one of you wrote the dialog for Shadowrun: Dragonfall?

(Image removed from quote.)

Well he does have Evilore's ears

[Tasty]

Hyphenated names 

Names

GUIDs

[agrajag]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1221567


Mine is gross, although I'm sure it isn't new at all, but it's so overused on GAF in particular.

e.g. "Bernie Sanders supporters won't vote for Hillary, that is gross."

[Trent Dole]

Bernie > Hillary > The near end of western civilization = Drumpf

[Kara]

Hyphenated names 

Names

GUIDs

Hail our cyberpunk future.

[zomgee]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1221567


Mine is gross, although I'm sure it isn't new at all, but it's so overused on GAF in particular.

e.g. "Bernie Sanders supporters won't vote for Hillary, that is gross."

I remember some ding dong on GAF argued that the word gross should only be used for social issues. Any other use of the word was offensive.

[agrajag]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1221567


Mine is gross, although I'm sure it isn't new at all, but it's so overused on GAF in particular.

e.g. "Bernie Sanders supporters won't vote for Hillary, that is gross."

I remember some ding dong on GAF argued that the word gross should only be used for social issues. Any other use of the word was offensive.

I've honestly never heard anyone use the word gross the way it is used on GAF anywhere else. Maybe I live in a bubble, but IRL people use the word to mean "nasty/icky," when taking about slimy things and spiders. That gaffer sounds like a total ding dong.