The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.

[Tasty]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=187179957&postcount=140



People putting Kilgrave over Kingpin

[Shadow Mod]

Not touching that thread with a ten foot pole.  People are going to jump through hoops to find a way to force the narrative of 'false accusations' or just straight up pretending shit like that doesn't happen so they can feel better about themselves no matter what you say.  I've stopped trying on Gaf.  Just leads to general fuckery since I've been 'outted' as a victim. 

Also, the misinformation about BDSM and roleplay makes me once again want to make a sex ed thread.  Fucking hell people. Porn is not real life.

Also try to find the gray areas between "No" and "STOP" and "used safeword" brehs

 

[Faction]

Not touching that thread with a ten foot pole.  People are going to jump through hoops to find a way to force the narrative of 'false accusations' or just straight up pretending shit like that doesn't happen so they can feel better about themselves no matter what you say.  I've stopped trying on Gaf.  Just leads to general fuckery since I've been 'outted' as a victim. 

Also, the misinformation about BDSM and roleplay makes me once again want to make a sex ed thread.  Fucking hell people. Porn is not real life.

Also try to find the gray areas between "No" and "STOP" and "used safeword" brehs

 

There's always a gray area, because she's in porn.  Sometimes, that porn is even violent looking!

[Shadow Mod]

Nah there's always a gray area because she's a woman, the porn adds +3 to the lying/whorish modifier but they're all lying skanks who make this shit up. I won't come out and say they're lying skanks but I'll give the possible rapist a fucking ton of probable doubt and none to the victim, because it's apparently difficult to just not rape people.

[thisismyusername]

Someone PM'd me to ask me to clarify a post I made in that very thread earlier. I deleted their PM since 1) they haven't posted in that thread at all and 2) who the fuck are they that I have to explain myself through PMs to?

If it's one of you, I apologize and if you want that clarity, PM me. Otherwise:

Not touching that thread with a ten foot pole. 

Learned my lesson.

[brawndolicious]

I think the reason most victims don't report rape is they know the rapist and they  can't deal with the trouble of pushing a partner/friend/relative out of their lives as well as everyone else in their social network. I think more people would think reporting it to the police is like a Law & Order episode where they use science and intuition to figure out the truth but the reality is police would largely want cases they can easily prove and not have to worry about the victim backing out of testifying.

That's why I think it's good that Stoya put this out there first on something like Twitter. Maybe it'll be a Cosby thing where the incidents are way too old to have physical evidence but there'll be a huge number of accusers with similar stories that convinces people. At the very least a famous person in a sex industry, who knows how much the victims reputation is risked in a rape accusation, is willing to be the first one to step forward.

[OnlyRegret]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=187225068&postcount=562

So
No one care

[ToxicAdam]

It's weird how many people feel empowered to speak on potential sex crimes where they don't know either of the participants. It's such an intensely personal act, that you could never speak intelligently on it unless you knew both parties.  People just want any chance to get involved and push their agendas.

[toku]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/30/tori-lux-james-deen-assaulted-me-too.html

[Phoenix Dark]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/30/tori-lux-james-deen-assaulted-me-too.html

"Why didn't she report it at the time, she's just looking for attention now"

Scust. Sounds like dude is simply a piece of shit and I wouldn't be stunned if drugs are involved in his end. Dude is probably a coke head.

[FStop7]

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1084553

It's NOT an OT for a game that's months away.  It's an information hub.  And the dude with the The Division avatar was asked to make it by the people.  The will of the people demanded it.

[Take My Breh Away]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1147899

PS4/Xbone versions of Just Cause 3 apparently run like complete shit and are almost unplayable while PC version is pretty well optimized from reports. Console stans are livid. PC stans are piling in to mock em. Console stans claiming PC will never run Arkham Knight in response. Monday morning fuckery

[thisismyusername]

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1084553

It's NOT an OT for a game that's months away.  It's an information hub.  And the dude with the The Division avatar was asked to make it by the people.  The will of the people demanded it.

(Image removed from quote.)

wtf!?!?

Welcome to Tom Clancy's The Destiny.

PS4/Xbone versions of Just Cause 3 apparently run like complete shit

Which is honestly shocking, given how JC2 performed.

[FStop7]

It's incredible how quickly this gen gassed out.  Strapping that 8 gigs of GDDR5 to an already shaky 2013 tablet CPU was almost as good a decision as Knack.

[meeb]

It's incredible how quickly this gen gassed out.  Strapping that 8 gigs of GDDR5 to an already shaky 2013 tablet CPU was almost as good a decision as Knack.

I remember the early days of "CODED TO THE METAL!"

[Joe Molotov]

It's incredible how quickly this gen gassed out.  Strapping that 8 gigs of GDDR5 to an already shaky 2013 tablet CPU was almost as good a decision as Knack.

I remember the early days of "CODED TO THE METAL!"

They need to shine that shit up for the Cell, bro.

[Rufus]

It's incredible how quickly this gen gassed out.  Strapping that 8 gigs of GDDR5 to an already shaky 2013 tablet CPU was almost as good a decision as Knack.

It's worth it for animation quality alone. And isn't it 'only' 5GB or so, because of OS overhead? What they're really hamstrung by is the shit hardware. The CPUs run at 1.6GHz and 1.75GHz respectively. With that, it doesn't matter that they're 8-core (on paper). They were outdated by the time they were conceived.

[benjipwns]

"CODED TO THE METAL!"

[Take My Breh Away]

PS4/Xbone versions of Just Cause 3 apparently run like complete shit

Which is honestly shocking, given how JC2 performed.

JC 2 still looks really good to this day on Ultra and runs amazingly well along with Mad Max being well optimized.

I saw highlights of TotalBiscuit's stream and he said he feels it's well optimized, but it's probably the first game that genuinely needs a powerful PC for the amount of physics its pushing. So I'm not too surprised it runs like ass on consoles. Same time, the amount of people freaking over "Game pushing massive amounts of physics runs like shit on hardware not really suited for the task" after hyping themselves up in 2013 is amusing.

[zomgee]

What a bullshit console generation this has been.

[bork]

What a bullshit console generation this has been.

I still believe that this has been the worst console generation yet. 

[Joe Molotov]

What a bullshit console generation this has been.

I still believe that this has been the worst console generation yet. 

Vita was the best hardware this cycle. PS2.5 graphics on-the-go with dat OLED.

[benjipwns]

More examples of how Microsoft destroyed console gaming by allowing the internet and patching. Back before downloadable patches console games had to be perfect out of the box with flawless framerates and advanced gameplay. Now they're basically just PC games which means still picture graphics over gameplay.

Even pure hardcore console gaming companies like Sony and Nintendo are infected by this fad Microsoft introduced into gaming culture. And instead of hand designing groundbreaking technologies to power new gameplay like the GTE, Emotion Engine and Cell, Sony is copying Microsoft by grabbing complicated and inefficient PC parts off the shelf and shoving them into a box on assembly lines.

Worst of all is probably the fact that Sony and Nintendo can't bring a case against Microsoft for damages when Microsoft will just show The Last of Us and The Order: 1886 and Super Mario 3D World and Splatoon and Uncharted 1-4 in the courtroom and the uninformed judge and jury will throw out the case because of the level of groundbreaking gameplay they see not even knowing how much better gaming would be without Microsoft's actions.

[studyguy]

Only reason I got a PS4 was so my girl could have something to play her games on with her friends online. Otherwise I don't think I've really touched it outside of playing Rocket League for a few hours this year. Overall extremely underwhelmed with the system myself.

[I'm a Puppy!]

What a bullshit console generation this has been.

I still believe that this has been the worst console generation yet.

Yeah. There's nothing new and exciting it's all just remakes and sequels. I have practically no interest in this generation.
It brings to mind something that Kojima said a while back. Typically everything Kojima says is but in this I think he might've been onto something. He said that he was worried about the future of video games because the first videogames were made by people who grew up reading manga, so those games were based on manga. The second generation of videogame makers were watchers of movies. So a lot of their gaming ideas came from movies. But the new generation of game makers grew up playing videogames. So by and large their games are based on other games and aren't that original. Certainly we see that in the big "AAA" games. It's the same games just bigger and prettier. Something something old man yells at cloud something something

[Tasty]

What a bullshit console generation this has been.

I still believe that this has been the worst console generation yet. 

Vita was the best hardware this cycle. PS2.5 graphics on-the-go with dat OLED.

Dat 3DS library tho

[I'm a Puppy!]

And that New 3DS library. Right guys? Right?...

[tiesto]

Underwhelming console gen so far but I'll revisit once Nier Automata, Star Ocean 5, Exist Archive, DQ11, Project Setsuna, and Shenmue 3 come out.

[octopushover]

everyone knows xenoblade x will be game of the generation

[tiesto]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=187298940&postcount=6

I'm beginning to notice that gaffers with ellie avatars have terrible opinions

Totally agree with the guy, the DS had much more in the way of quality games for it than the GBA. I always felt the GBA was treated as an afterthought by Nintendo with lots of ports and few exclusives. And it definitely lacked in terms of diverse gameplay styles/experiences that the DS had (The World Ends With You >>> any non-port GBA RPG for instance). Not to mention its GARBAGE sound quality. 

[Vertigo]

I love console gaming. But it's frustrating that we waited so long for this gen and it's been with a few exceptions pretty weaksauce so far.

This may end up being the shortest console gen yet. These consoles are creaking already.   

[Rahxephon91]

Can't say I share the negative view. While I haven't played too many things that blow me away, I've been plenty happy and had plenty of good games to play.

While Witcher 3 took a while to get there, the game looks and performs fantastic on PS4. As good as PC? No, but that's the console breaks.

Batman on the other hand while disappointing and kind of bad was one of the best looking and best presented game I've seen in a long while. Battlefront as well is so damn good looking.

Bloodborne may not be a revelation, but to me it's the first Souls game to click for me and the combat is always engaging.

I've enjoyed aspects of MGSV and its polish is well above anything last gen. While I don't think that can be said about Rise of the Tomb Raider it's at least been a damn good action adventure game. I've also been replaying Advanced Warfare which does honestly look great to me and is filled with many a great cod cinematic scenes. It's one of the best CoD campaigns in a long while.

I don't think there's been anything amazing or world breaking, but plenty of solid good games. Halo 5, Sunset Overdrive, Dragon Quest Heroes, Until Dawn, Ryse, Dying Light, battlefield 4, and Destiny are all new games that I've enjoyed. They don't feel "next gen" besides visual polish(well maybe Dying Light) but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy them. Yet I see how some can feel fatigued towards games as a whole.

Outside of Witcher 3 I haven't played a game that's enormed me with its story, art, characters, music, and gameplay. Then again maybe that's hard to do sense I'm an adult now.

Yet I feel next year is filled with amazing looking things. Final Fantasy, Persona, Ni Oh, Nier, DQXI, Mirrors Edge, Stat Ocean, Quantum Break, Zero Dawn, Uncharted 4, and so on. So there's potential for many memorable games.

[Yulwei]

It took 2~3 years for last gen to get going imo. It wasn't until 2009 that I completely switched over to the new consoles. Before then I was using my Ps2 as much as my 360.

2016 looks absolutely packed for this gen, so I'm not worried really.

[Take My Breh Away]

everyone knows xenoblade x will be game of the generation (Image removed from quote.)

That review thread filled with outraged ninthings over Polygon's review and concern posters is insane

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1148160

Also Loudninja Marketing is out of a job it seems

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1148295

[Yulwei]

Also Loudninja Marketing is out of a job it seems

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1148295

we want this to be a place where people can discuss games, not just be marketed to

Not like these companies need markerters on gaf anyway. Fanboys do all the marketing on their own.. free of charge.

Reviewers were biased against The Order: 1886™. The game isn't actually shit, buy it today!

[bork]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=187298940&postcount=6

I'm beginning to notice that gaffers with ellie avatars have terrible opinions

Totally agree with the guy, the DS had much more in the way of quality games for it than the GBA. I always felt the GBA was treated as an afterthought by Nintendo with lots of ports and few exclusives. And it definitely lacked in terms of diverse gameplay styles/experiences that the DS had (The World Ends With You >>> any non-port GBA RPG for instance). Not to mention its GARBAGE sound quality. 

[mormapope]

I still believe that this has been the worst console generation yet.

Easily. I picked up a bunch of original Xbox games and its been a blast going back to action games that all have a different variety of qualities.

People like to mope and bitch about the 360/PS3 gen, but we got a lot of games of all kinds on consoles. If indie devs were less open to releasing stuff on the PS4/Xbone, the library of games for these new consoles is desolate as can be.

[FStop7]

It's incredible how quickly this gen gassed out.  Strapping that 8 gigs of GDDR5 to an already shaky 2013 tablet CPU was almost as good a decision as Knack.

I remember the early days of "CODED TO THE METAL!"

I remember the stuff Corrinne Yu used to tweet after leaving Microsoft for Naughty Dog about how badass the PS4 was and how she was coding to the metal and brar-rar-rar hardcore hardcore it's awesome.  Sounded good to me.  Then she abruptly disappeared from ND and a GAF poster claimed she was fired for being "utterly incompetent."

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=103908531&postcount=886

we want this to be a place where people can discuss games, not just be marketed to

Then I'd love to know what the deal with that "Don't talk about problems" mandate in the Just Cause 3 OT is about or what that branded OT for The Division is about.  Both on the level of it being branded by way some dude's blog and the fact it's an OT for a game that isn't due out until March.

It's incredible how quickly this gen gassed out.  Strapping that 8 gigs of GDDR5 to an already shaky 2013 tablet CPU was almost as good a decision as Knack.

It's worth it for animation quality alone. And isn't it 'only' 5GB or so, because of OS overhead? What they're really hamstrung by is the shit hardware. The CPUs run at 1.6GHz and 1.75GHz respectively. With that, it doesn't matter that they're 8-core (on paper). They were outdated by the time they were conceived.

I was pretty hyped for the 8 gigs of memory because I figured that 1080p/60 was going to be pretty much standard for game with the exceptions being games that pushed the boundaries, graphically, with very high quality textures, HDR, etc.

This generation was the perfect storm of ass

Microsoft - the bone was obviously designed by a committee representing various internal factions.  And the "TV TV TV" faction and whatever group wanted to triple down on Kinect really fucked it up.  The OS is disjointed and un-intuitive, even after 2 years of patches.  I haven't updated mine to the latest OS yet, but it certainly doesn't sound like a big improvement.  How they could have gotten so many things so right on the 360 and then completely fucked or omitted them on the bone still amazes me.

Sony - The PS4 was developed on the cheap because Sony was hurting for money and the Playstation division was like the only money maker.  So they couldn't afford to lose money on anything remotely cutting edge.  Combined with their OS also being a step backwards from the PS3 (once it matured) and PSN itself being unreliable.  They're making money with the PS4 but the user experience largely sucks.  My favorite PS4 game is Fallout 4, a game that I'm only playing on the console because I don't have a decent PC.  That pretty much says it all.

Nintendo - They shit the bed with the Wii U in so many ways and had the handheld business snatched out from under them by the rise of smartphones.  Topped with console gaming in Japan sliding into the abyss.

Just an amazing combination of changing tastes, trends, business situations, badly timed decisions and flat out bad decisions.  This is the third holiday season for the PS4/Bone and the fourth for the Wii U.  They should be at their peaks, in terms of must-have games.  But it seems like we're already past that and into the stage where the consoles are falling behind the tech curve pretty badly.

[mormapope]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1147629

Every time some artist or whomever takes a stab at doing something artistically different with Nintendo characters, there's a wave of people acting disgusted or bummed out.

If Nintendo released concept art like that for another new Zelda, guarantee Nintentards would lose their shit and say Retro was making Zelda Prime.

[mormapope]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=187151637&postcount=43

No thank you. Realistic just means "less creative" to me.

Saying this unironically regarding what Nintendo has done with its characters
 

Guys, this time Link is in a blue sweater and he's 15 years old! He doesn't have a hat anymore! Mario's jean suspenders now have golden buttons! Please, don't ever do anything drastic, I need these characters to jolt the child like special fellow living inside of me. 

Nintendo isn't creative with their existing characters, they barely make games anymore.

[Take My Breh Away]

Also Loudninja Marketing is out of a job it seems

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1148295

we want this to be a place where people can discuss games, not just be marketed to

Not like these companies need markerters on gaf anyway. Fanboys do all the marketing on their own.. free of charge.

Reviewers were biased against The Order: 1886™. The game isn't actually shit, buy it today!

Are you telling me all those threads about the most revolutionary racing game since Pole Position and game of the century, DriveClub™ were actually made by marketers and not a passionate and committed fan base who kept the community informed about the game's various updates like new locations, dynamic weather, photo mode and bikes?

 

[Tasty]

Didn't care for the GBA much. I know it has its fanbase, but the butchered SNES ports and lack of an original 2D Mario did it in for me. Also had my least-favorite generation of Pokemon, so much so I was pretty much done with the franchise until Pearl roped me back in.

[FStop7]

I never got into the GBA at all.

The DS I feel like is a classic up there with the PS2 and SNES.

[Tasty]

The GBA SP, lack of headphone jack and tiny shoulder buttons aside, was fucking perfect though. Lordy, what a handheld.

[octopushover]

DS-Lite would have been the best handheld ever if they hadn't taken out the ability to play regular GB games.

[Stoney Mason]

I think I would prefer officially labeled marketeers from game companies on a place like GAF. At least it would be more honest than the current situation.

[Stoney Mason]

Can't say I share the negative view. While I haven't played too many things that blow me away, I've been plenty happy and had plenty of good games to play.

While Witcher 3 took a while to get there, the game looks and performs fantastic on PS4. As good as PC? No, but that's the console breaks.

Batman on the other hand while disappointing and kind of bad was one of the best looking and best presented game I've seen in a long while. Battlefront as well is so damn good looking.

Bloodborne may not be a revelation, but to me it's the first Souls game to click for me and the combat is always engaging.

I've enjoyed aspects of MGSV and its polish is well above anything last gen. While I don't think that can be said about Rise of the Tomb Raider it's at least been a damn good action adventure game. I've also been replaying Advanced Warfare which does honestly look great to me and is filled with many a great cod cinematic scenes. It's one of the best CoD campaigns in a long while.

I don't think there's been anything amazing or world breaking, but plenty of solid good games. Halo 5, Sunset Overdrive, Dragon Quest Heroes, Until Dawn, Ryse, Dying Light, battlefield 4, and Destiny are all new games that I've enjoyed. They don't feel "next gen" besides visual polish(well maybe Dying Light) but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy them. Yet I see how some can feel fatigued towards games as a whole.

Outside of Witcher 3 I haven't played a game that's enormed me with its story, art, characters, music, and gameplay. Then again maybe that's hard to do sense I'm an adult now.

Yet I feel next year is filled with amazing looking things. Final Fantasy, Persona, Ni Oh, Nier, DQXI, Mirrors Edge, Stat Ocean, Quantum Break, Zero Dawn, Uncharted 4, and so on. So there's potential for many memorable games.

Roughly agree with all of this. I also think its ridiculous to compare the console market performance wise to the PC market. Two completely different markets with two completely different budget realities.

But then in general I find myself talking more about the things I like and enjoy rather than whining about everything and taking the glass is half empty approach.

[Tasty]

I never got into the GBA at all.

The DS I feel like is a classic up there with the PS2 and SNES.

DS probably has the better library (GTA Chinatown Wars ) but Gameboy has the better hardware. It was much cheaper, and much more toy-like, which is how a videogame system should be. It's absolutely mind-boggling the 3DS was released at fucking $250. Handhelds need to be simple and cheap, because it doesn't take that much to have fun on a portable gaming system.

$80.

AKA cheaper than any GameBoy model MSRP at any time when inflation is taken into account.

[Dennis]

The OG DS was such a fat clunky fucker though 

[Tasty]

Because I'm a mad person:

Code: [Select]

GameBoy:              $90 in 1989                        ($175 today)
GameBoy Pocket:       $90 in 1996                        ($175 today)
GameBoy Color:        $70 in 1998                        ($102 today)
GameBoy Advance:      $100 in 2001                       ($135 today)
GameBoy Advance SP:   $100 in 2003, then $80 in 2004     ($130, then $102 today)
GameBoy Micro:        $100 in 2005                       ($123 today)

Nintendo DS:          $150 in 2004, then $130 in 2005    ($191, then $160 today)
Nintendo DS Lite:     $130 in 2006, then $100 in 2011    ($155 today)
Nintendo DSi:         $170 in 2009, then $100 in 2012    ($189, then $104 today)
Nintendo DSi XL:      $190 in 2010, then $130 in 2012    ($207, then $135 today)

Nintendo 3DS:         $250 in 2011, then $170 in 2011    ($268, then $182 today)
Nintendo 3DS XL:      $200 in 2012, then $160 in 2015    ($208, then $160 today)
New Nintendo 3DS:     $180 in 2015
New Nintendo 3DS XL:  $200 in 2015
Nintendo 2DS:         $130 in 2013, then $100 in 2015    ($133, then $100 today)

[Tasty]

That thing shows how dumb dual screen is.

A good price, but a shitty design.

Didn't you say you liked "cheaper" and "toy-like"?

[demi]

He does when its in his ass looooooooooooooooooool

[Tasty]

He does when its in his ass looooooooooooooooooool

[thisismyusername]

This may end up being the shortest console gen yet. These consoles are creaking already.   

No, please. Be a ten year cycle. So I can keep my GTX 760 for another few years.

[Joe Molotov]

ayy lmao

[Yulwei]

I want this console gen to at least be as long as the last one 

[parallax]

DS-Lite would have been the best handheld ever if they hadn't taken out the ability to play regular GB games.

that and the build quality being complete ass

[thisismyusername]

It's incredible how quickly this gen gassed out.  Strapping that 8 gigs of GDDR5 to an already shaky 2013 tablet CPU was almost as good a decision as Knack.

I remember the early days of "CODED TO THE METAL!"

I remember the stuff Corrinne Yu used to tweet after leaving Microsoft for Naughty Dog about how badass the PS4 was and how she was coding to the metal and brar-rar-rar hardcore hardcore it's awesome.  Sounded good to me.  Then she abruptly disappeared from ND and a GAF poster claimed she was fired for being "utterly incompetent."

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=103908531&postcount=886

He hasn't posted since that thread. 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=103911240&postcount=940
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=103930215&postcount=1037

 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=103932084&postcount=1041



She hasn't posted on Twitter in a year

https://twitter.com/Corrinne

Junior: Vendicated?

[tiesto]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1147629

Every time some artist or whomever takes a stab at doing something artistically different with Nintendo characters, there's a wave of people acting disgusted or bummed out.

If Nintendo released concept art like that for another new Zelda, guarantee Nintentards would lose their shit and say Retro was making Zelda Prime.

 
Why does Link look in his 40s?

[tiesto]

I never got into the GBA at all.

The DS I feel like is a classic up there with the PS2 and SNES.

DS probably has the better library (GTA Chinatown Wars ) but Gameboy has the better hardware. It was much cheaper, and much more toy-like, which is how a videogame system should be. It's absolutely mind-boggling the 3DS was released at fucking $250. Handhelds need to be simple and cheap, because it doesn't take that much to have fun on a portable gaming system.

$250? Maybe in Euroland... but I bought the original, DS phat at launch and I'm pretty sure it was $160.