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« Reply #4140 on: October 10, 2015, 10:22:28 AM »
Valve rally are a bunch of assholes.
"Look at the ants getting restless !"  :rash

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1122456

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Nowadays whenever I see a Half Life 3 rumor or "leak", I just immediately think "I wonder what strings Valve have just pulled this time?" and never "OH MY GOD IT'S HAPPENING"

Not even in the year where long awaited entries like Shenmue 3, FF7r and TLG are happening  :lol

Mega Man Legends 3 could come back from its grave and I would still think HL3 is not gonna happen  :-\
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« Reply #4141 on: October 10, 2015, 11:07:57 AM »
I'd put the odds at 99% that Valve just does this stuff to fuck with people.  It seems to be working.
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« Reply #4142 on: October 10, 2015, 11:57:13 AM »
These HL3 blips have seemed like tongue in cheek jabs for over five years at this point.

Valve's business these days in making games (which, all told, is a smaller part of their business than their publishing platform) is to have a long as heck lifespan and can sustain a variety of different business models that they like to experiment with. HL3 would presumably be a single player FPS campaign that would cost a lot to produce and not be very flexible in the ways that DOTA2, TF2, etc are. This is ignoring the wild expectations HL3 would be held to, which imo can't really do much other than hurt Valve's standing with it's rabid hordes.

Valve is also the sort of business that only wants 'great' employees and no filler, have a flat structure with peer pressure and performance review based bonuses. So not only does the company run risks doing HL3, employees working on it would also carry internal risk. I very much doubt there will be a HL3 unless someone high up gets nostalgic for the way things used to be, or something.

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« Reply #4143 on: October 10, 2015, 12:02:15 PM »
Well, Brad Muir just joined, maybe he wants to make games there*, rather than balance Dota2.

*He probably just wants job security now that he's a father.

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« Reply #4144 on: October 10, 2015, 12:46:53 PM »
I don't know why people get so excited about HL3. After all this time there is no way it can live up to any hype. Better to just leave the good memories be.
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« Reply #4145 on: October 10, 2015, 01:28:13 PM »
I don't know why people get so excited about HL3. After all this time there is no way it can live up to any hype. Better to just leave the good memories be.

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« Reply #4146 on: October 10, 2015, 01:55:22 PM »
It would be great if XiaNaphryz could be made to suffer exquisite agony. Ideally something that would leave him incapable of speech in any form.

Because he posts food topics? Where did this come from?
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« Reply #4147 on: October 10, 2015, 01:58:38 PM »
These HL3 blips have seemed like tongue in cheek jabs for over five years at this point.

Valve's business these days in making games (which, all told, is a smaller part of their business than their publishing platform) is to have a long as heck lifespan and can sustain a variety of different business models that they like to experiment with. HL3 would presumably be a single player FPS campaign that would cost a lot to produce and not be very flexible in the ways that DOTA2, TF2, etc are. This is ignoring the wild expectations HL3 would be held to, which imo can't really do much other than hurt Valve's standing with it's rabid hordes.

Valve is also the sort of business that only wants 'great' employees and no filler, have a flat structure with peer pressure and performance review based bonuses. So not only does the company run risks doing HL3, employees working on it would also carry internal risk. I very much doubt there will be a HL3 unless someone high up gets nostalgic for the way things used to be, or something.

On the other hand, the hype train that would exist for HL3 would be such that they could release an utter turd of a game that would get 8.5/10 at worst.

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« Reply #4148 on: October 10, 2015, 03:52:20 PM »
It would be great if XiaNaphryz could be made to suffer exquisite agony. Ideally something that would leave him incapable of speech in any form.

Because he posts food topics? Where did this come from?

He's the most insufferable baseball troll on the forum.



You could... stop caring a little? Like, stop going into Sports threads? :yeshrug Your murderous intent with nearly everyone is a little scary, breh.

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« Reply #4149 on: October 10, 2015, 03:56:51 PM »

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« Reply #4150 on: October 10, 2015, 04:06:25 PM »
Oh shit we got a badass over here:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181247816&postcount=176

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« Reply #4151 on: October 10, 2015, 04:31:37 PM »
If I actually had things to discuss aside from sadness I'd try to find a better place than NeoGaf to do it.  :kobeyuck

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« Reply #4153 on: October 10, 2015, 06:07:27 PM »
Imagine if your favorite local restaurant went vegetarian and when you tried to order something from the old menu, they flipped their shit and banned you from the restaurant because you are a bad person for not caring about the welfare of animals. Then when the owner realized his customer base was drying up, he put out a donation box and said "Come on guys, we gotta save this place." That is literally what has happened here, except on the internet.
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« Reply #4154 on: October 10, 2015, 08:10:06 PM »

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« Reply #4155 on: October 10, 2015, 08:47:25 PM »
League doesn't even have denies, lol. FOH.

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« Reply #4156 on: October 10, 2015, 09:19:51 PM »
These HL3 blips have seemed like tongue in cheek jabs for over five years at this point.

Valve's business these days in making games (which, all told, is a smaller part of their business than their publishing platform) is to have a long as heck lifespan and can sustain a variety of different business models that they like to experiment with. HL3 would presumably be a single player FPS campaign that would cost a lot to produce and not be very flexible in the ways that DOTA2, TF2, etc are. This is ignoring the wild expectations HL3 would be held to, which imo can't really do much other than hurt Valve's standing with it's rabid hordes.

Valve is also the sort of business that only wants 'great' employees and no filler, have a flat structure with peer pressure and performance review based bonuses. So not only does the company run risks doing HL3, employees working on it would also carry internal risk. I very much doubt there will be a HL3 unless someone high up gets nostalgic for the way things used to be, or something.

Valve doesn't make games any more. They make services. That company isn't run by designers or engineers, its run by economists.
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« Reply #4158 on: October 10, 2015, 11:42:42 PM »
These HL3 blips have seemed like tongue in cheek jabs for over five years at this point.

Valve's business these days in making games (which, all told, is a smaller part of their business than their publishing platform) is to have a long as heck lifespan and can sustain a variety of different business models that they like to experiment with. HL3 would presumably be a single player FPS campaign that would cost a lot to produce and not be very flexible in the ways that DOTA2, TF2, etc are. This is ignoring the wild expectations HL3 would be held to, which imo can't really do much other than hurt Valve's standing with it's rabid hordes.

Valve is also the sort of business that only wants 'great' employees and no filler, have a flat structure with peer pressure and performance review based bonuses. So not only does the company run risks doing HL3, employees working on it would also carry internal risk. I very much doubt there will be a HL3 unless someone high up gets nostalgic for the way things used to be, or something.

Valve doesn't make games any more. They make services. That company isn't run by designers or engineers, its run by economists.

I agree with this.  The direction Valve is going is such that Half Life 3 wouldn't really work for them.  Same probably applies for Left 4 Dead 3.
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« Reply #4159 on: October 10, 2015, 11:54:03 PM »
I'd say they manage their own service and strengthen it with games that feed back into their service. Left 4 Dead 3 would definitely bring in cash for them. Making it using Source 2, which is just an updated, sorta revamped Source engine, would mean making new assets with heavily tweaked features and then throwing it out there. Left 4 Dead 3 already exists as well, some people have talked about it in the past.

Valve making another Portal or Half Life seems like the rarity here. They'll continue making or funding multiplayer games though.
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« Reply #4160 on: October 11, 2015, 12:18:47 AM »
I could definitely see the left for Dead franchise being a cash cow if they wanted to take it that way. Add in a shitload of playable characters with potentially different attributes. Same with new monsters and stuff. You could definitely apply a league of legends style business model to that game. Selling all that shit: skins, guns, characters, monsters, etc.


Not saying they will but I could absolutely see such a thing being a success.

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« Reply #4161 on: October 11, 2015, 01:40:25 AM »
Would greatly enjoy a new L4D even if it was dota style hero transactions and cosmetics oriented. So long as they had a steady flow of maps.

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« Reply #4162 on: October 11, 2015, 04:56:58 AM »
Shenmue III fans getting feels again :

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=180883842&postcount=328

I listened to the 2 minutes discussion about it and don't see anything really bad about it. Same about the Kuchera piece, it's negative but I don't think it's outrageous. The gap between the goal and the higher stretch goal limit "to get the most complete version of the game" do open up all those questions. The game may bode well despite all this, mind, but we can't actually say before seeing anything.
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« Reply #4163 on: October 11, 2015, 08:22:13 AM »
I can't wait for it to come out, and people to pretend they love it. The order/drive club style.

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« Reply #4164 on: October 11, 2015, 10:18:03 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1122900

i can't wait for this game to finish

i don't even care what finish means. if it doesn't come out and everyone got scammed i'll feed off of the fallout and live for another thousand years.

if it does come out and it's terrible, i'll have endless posts defending a terrible game to suck me off at night.

i'll bathe in their tears like lady bathory in the blood of virgins

and my tears will be of virgins as well

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« Reply #4165 on: October 11, 2015, 11:12:18 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1122900

i can't wait for this game to finish

i don't even care what finish means. if it doesn't come out and everyone got scammed i'll feed off of the fallout and live for another thousand years.

if it does come out and it's terrible, i'll have endless posts defending a terrible game to suck me off at night.

i'll bathe in their tears like lady bathory in the blood of virgins

and my tears will be of virgins as well

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« Reply #4166 on: October 11, 2015, 11:28:58 AM »
They'll pinch something out, if only to prove the haters wrong and avoid litigation.  Except it will be buggy and half assed, causing much butthurt and lulz throughout the internet.
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« Reply #4167 on: October 11, 2015, 12:11:23 PM »
They'll pinch something out, if only to prove the haters wrong and avoid litigation.  Except it will be buggy and half assed, causing much butthurt and lulz throughout the internet.

And in the end, the backers will have enjoyed anticipating & fantasizing about playing the game more than the game itself.

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« Reply #4168 on: October 11, 2015, 02:39:00 PM »
They'll pinch something out, if only to prove the haters wrong and avoid litigation.  Except it will be buggy and half assed, causing much butthurt and lulz throughout the internet.

Here's our next kickstarter for the patches.
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« Reply #4169 on: October 11, 2015, 03:26:11 PM »
Shenmue III fans getting feels again :

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=180883842&postcount=328

I listened to the 2 minutes discussion about it and don't see anything really bad about it. Same about the Kuchera piece, it's negative but I don't think it's outrageous. The gap between the goal and the higher stretch goal limit "to get the most complete version of the game" do open up all those questions. The game may bode well despite all this, mind, but we can't actually say before seeing anything.

Yu Suzuki has been rejuvenated and excited to work on a game again. The man is a gaming legend and he's excited about working on a game again while being surrounded by ex-AM2 gaming legends and passionate and just as talented newcomers. There's a lot of reason to be excited. "Disaster" is stretching things. Yu Suzuki and his team have a track record for quality. If you want to compare it to Inafune, he has no real track record beyond stealing credit for other peoples ideas. Star Citizen? Who cares. Kickstarted games led by teams with a previous trackrecord of quality, such as Wasteland and Pillars, have been VERY well received. The DoubleFine adventure game wasn't bad, either. The skepticism is understandable surrounding Shenmue III, but at the same time, also unwarranted given the team involved, and their passion to do right by the game. A lot of the negativity comes off as concerned hyperbole. There's zero proof that Shenmue III won't turn out well, beyond creating clickbait headlines. Given that Yu Suzuki is one of the grandfathers of gaming, there's far more reason to be excited than negative. That's just straight facts, especially when your last major game director credit is Virtua Fighter fucking 4.

Saying "Shenmue III has disaster written all over it" is straight up hyperbole and sensationalism. He doesn't even know the facts. Saying,"it's not in active development" for instance, is flat out wrong. The fact you're determined to defend a bunch of click baiters, whose opinion is based on misinformation, says a lot. There's very little room to take you seriously on this topic beyond topical trolling.
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« Reply #4170 on: October 11, 2015, 03:52:36 PM »
No reason that it would turn good either, art making and all that. I didn't compare him to Inafune or Snakeoil Citizen, actually, because I'm indeed sympathetic to the man and by virtue of size and practices the potential letdown will be minor. The Shenmue 3 campaign had flaws on its own irrespective of those two.

What I don't understand is the cry to shield against and phase out criticism, labeling "negativity" what for the most part is just healthy skepticism, something that is pretty essential both as a way to inform the consumer, challenging creators, and setting standards for better, more robust projects. It's especially important with crowdfunded projects esp. large ones.

Yes there were confused, misinformed, negative articles and everyone is free to shrug them off (Suzuki first and foremost: He's got the money he asked for, up to him to do something with it, ignoring any feedback if he so pleases) and criticize them in return. But I don't see "shameful" coverage on a whole. Besides most negative remarks are not directed at Yu Suzuki the game designer, but at YS the producing team, so I have an hard time seing the supposed slight and lack of personal respect to Yu's dignity.
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« Reply #4171 on: October 11, 2015, 04:09:16 PM »
Nothing about Shenmue III's media coverage has been healthy.

There's a line between healthy skepticism - which denotes a neutral tone with a more critical slant - and a complete smear. Shenmue III has received the latter more so than the former.

Saying,"I think Shenmue III is a disaster in the making" isn't "healthy skepticism. When Yu Suzuki says,"I'd like more money, but at is it now we'll have to sacrifice graphics for gameplay and story" healthy skepticism does not mean "YU SUZUKI SAYS HE NEEDS MORE MONEY!!!!"

Also, in an industry that universally praises every thing to heaven, any overtly negative tone will always be perceived as an attack. Especially in a medium where paying writers for reviewing your title means paid trips to expensive hotel and lots and lots of wine. The reaction to Shenmue III's coverage is at the feet of the gaming press that is always so willing to shill any and every title, until they're not paid for it. Furthermore, fan reception of the media wouldn't be so bad if there were balanced coverage. Putting "Shenmue 3's Kickstarter Is Over, But Its Dev Will Still Take Your Money", "Shenmue 3 is a Sad Cash-in on Gaming's Pioneering Past", "Shenmue 3 Creator Says He "Could Do With a Bit More Money", or "Sony And Suzuki Need To Come Clean On Shenmue Budget And Funding" is not "healthy skepticism", and your willingness to portray any and every post defending Shenmue III against the press as worthy of mockery, is not only transparent but laughable.

No reason that it would turn good either, art making and all that.


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« Reply #4172 on: October 11, 2015, 04:14:44 PM »
In any case, your insistence to continually defend the media and post pretty normal links in this thread stating innocuous shit is pretty annoying when I'm trying to laugh at gaffers. It almost makes it seem like you're on the gaming press' payroll. No one wants to fuck with someone who can't buy their own wine without being given to it for free because they game a video game a 10. Buy your own wine. You're French. You can do it.

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« Reply #4173 on: October 11, 2015, 04:24:46 PM »
I'm a beer person.
And not everyone can make some awesome ironic pedo defending persona, so please consider extending Yu's hugbox to a man in need.
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« Reply #4174 on: October 11, 2015, 04:25:38 PM »
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What beer did the gaming media buy you? :hitler

yes, defending Yu Suzuki from character assassination as a man who is trying to steal everyone's gamer bucks, is totally a hugbox.  :doge




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« Reply #4175 on: October 11, 2015, 04:28:58 PM »
YAMETE :brazilcry

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« Reply #4177 on: October 11, 2015, 04:33:57 PM »
A case of Jupiler, I'm cheap like that.
Am I mad ? I'll do my best not to trigger you with innocuous links.

Anyway when will you be resuming white knighting for Shenmue 3 in the dedicated topic? Because honestly I'm doing a piss poor job at relaying updates.
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« Reply #4178 on: October 11, 2015, 04:51:19 PM »
A case of Jupiler, I'm cheap like that.
Am I mad ? I'll do my best not to trigger you with innocuous links.

Anyway when will you be resuming white knighting for Shenmue 3 in the dedicated topic? Because honestly I'm doing a piss poor job at relaying updates.

You can do it. I'm interested in seeing how you handle the thread when actual media comes out. I'm looking forward to the point where, instead of posting the relevant information, it'll be accompanied with a gaf link of someone excited and a one fucking Mormapope like.

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« Reply #4179 on: October 11, 2015, 05:06:26 PM »
tbh if shenmue fails it won't be nearly as when star citizen does fail. let's focus our energies people  :doge
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« Reply #4180 on: October 11, 2015, 05:26:28 PM »
ya, lost interest in shenmue3 when #STARGATE started popping off tbh.

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« Reply #4181 on: October 11, 2015, 05:38:19 PM »
HUELEN pops into a thread about DMC3's awesomeness only to say this:

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I would argue that in most of those points, Sonic Adventure 2 does it better; think about it.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181321986&postcount=2

Fuck outta here you clown :heh
...What the hell does SA2, let alone Sonic, has to do anything with DMC?? GOD DAMN IT HUELEN
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« Reply #4182 on: October 11, 2015, 05:42:38 PM »
HUELEN: [laughs]
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« Reply #4183 on: October 11, 2015, 05:55:36 PM »
I fully support trolling DMC stans. :itagaki


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« Reply #4185 on: October 11, 2015, 06:08:46 PM »

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« Reply #4186 on: October 11, 2015, 06:11:51 PM »
HUELEN: [laughs]

Huelen chuckled, "You mean the Chaos Emeralds?"

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« Reply #4187 on: October 11, 2015, 07:33:16 PM »
Imagine if your favorite local restaurant went vegetarian and when you tried to order something from the old menu, they flipped their shit and banned you from the restaurant because you are a bad person for not caring about the welfare of animals. Then when the owner realized his customer base was drying up, he put out a donation box and said "Come on guys, we gotta save this place." That is literally what has happened here, except on the internet.

wait what? what did I miss?

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« Reply #4188 on: October 11, 2015, 10:36:09 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181349710&postcount=7363
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"Mom I want my chocolate milk" - actual line I heard while playing Call of Duty once. He then proceeded to call us some incredibly obscene and hateful things I cannot repeat on this forum.



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« Reply #4189 on: October 12, 2015, 12:08:07 AM »
Imagine if your favorite local restaurant went vegetarian and when you tried to order something from the old menu, they flipped their shit and banned you from the restaurant because you are a bad person for not caring about the welfare of animals. Then when the owner realized his customer base was drying up, he put out a donation box and said "Come on guys, we gotta save this place." That is literally what has happened here, except on the internet.

wait what? what did I miss?
6 years of gaf

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« Reply #4190 on: October 12, 2015, 12:48:28 AM »
Shenmue III fans getting feels again :

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=180883842&postcount=328

I listened to the 2 minutes discussion about it and don't see anything really bad about it. Same about the Kuchera piece, it's negative but I don't think it's outrageous. The gap between the goal and the higher stretch goal limit "to get the most complete version of the game" do open up all those questions. The game may bode well despite all this, mind, but we can't actually say before seeing anything.

Hard to say disaster when you're so early in development with nothing to show for it. I think they can still reassure people. Never mind the game's engine, story or gameplay, one simple thing they can do is to show they can render Ryo right. That impostor in the Kickstarter campaign wasn't Ryo.

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« Reply #4191 on: October 12, 2015, 02:35:16 AM »
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« Reply #4193 on: October 12, 2015, 08:37:37 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181368150&postcount=116

Supermarket sandwiches? (Image removed from quote.)

When I was a kid my family would go shopping on Sunday's and a highlight was to go to Kmart and get some of their subs. And yeah they had mayo. Lots of mayo.

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #4194 on: October 12, 2015, 09:15:46 AM »
Shenmue III fans getting feels again :

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=180883842&postcount=328

I listened to the 2 minutes discussion about it and don't see anything really bad about it. Same about the Kuchera piece, it's negative but I don't think it's outrageous. The gap between the goal and the higher stretch goal limit "to get the most complete version of the game" do open up all those questions. The game may bode well despite all this, mind, but we can't actually say before seeing anything.

Hard to say disaster when you're so early in development with nothing to show for it. I think they can still reassure people. Never mind the game's engine, story or gameplay, one simple thing they can do is to show they can render Ryo right. That impostor in the Kickstarter campaign wasn't Ryo.

$1million of how much spent on just Ryo. :doge

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #4196 on: October 12, 2015, 09:23:11 AM »


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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #4198 on: October 12, 2015, 11:32:56 AM »
I mean, I like a little mayo, but some of you cacs just go overboard. :ufup
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #4199 on: October 12, 2015, 11:34:30 AM »
Not gonna dispute that. :yeshrug

But it's good stuff tho :praise