The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.

[Mods Help]

I also love the idea that we should automatically forgive people. When the families of the Charleston victims said they 'forgave" the shooter, I shook my head. Don't forgive shit.

Shadow Mod, were they looking for someone that "fit his profile"? They'd probably think someone half his height "fit his profile".

Forgiveness isn't about condoning or accepting the actions taken against you. It's being a bigger person than that of the person who wronged you. It's taking control of the outcome and saying "You wronged me, but I'm stronger than you."

People who do evil shit *want* that reaction out of you. They want you to be angry and vindictive. By saying "nah" you take that power away from them.

For all intents and purposes, sure. But when combating a racist ideology and past, forgiveness is a very good way of telling people to forget the past as well as the present. Until another shooter does it, and people treat him like an outlier. Nothing gets done because forgiveness comes first and is seen as absolute. Furthermore, there's nothing wrong with forgiveness, but the media itself focused entirely on faith-based forgiveness and cheap grace. So it's not the forgiveness itself that's problematic, it's the aftermath and the conversation after that lends to issues. For the people that forgave, that was their choice. But for many, it's just forgiveness and that's that, nothing after that and nothing left to talk about or try to fix. It's incredibly cheap. Forgiveness by itself doesn't get results needed for justice.

Forgiveness is a good idea, but more often than not, it merely turns into an easy fix to the problem.

[Shadow Mod]

I'm not talking about that at all re:morma. I don't want to get too personal about this but all that closure/forgiveness stuff just rings hollow to me given some of the shit I've seen happen. There's also a space between "revenge" and "forgive." It's not one or the other.

[Mods Help]

What people often mean by forgive, they usually leave out the addendum. It's more accurately "forgive and forget." Even if it's after a dude kills 9 people in cold blood in a church.

[Mods Help]

It's like they base their entire idea of forgiveness on a movie. Like everything's peachy afterwards.

[mormapope]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1130858

Dire times for Nintendo lads.

[VomKriege]

The saddest thing in those discussions is how we are still forced to use made up categories of people and in a way perpetuate them ("Whites" "Blacks" "Arabs" etc... All rather meaningless). But that's the legacy we were given, with all the very real consequences of this artificial divide.

[stufte]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1130858

Dire times for Nintendo lads.

When is it *not* dire when it comes to Nintendo?

[Shadow Mod]

In other news I see that thread with the UN telling Japan to stop producing animated/illustrated child porn is still going strong

 

[stufte]

In other news I see that thread with the UN telling Japan to stop producing animated/illustrated child porn is still going strong

 

I wish Opiate were there to give his insight.

[Shadow Mod]

lol comparisons to violent vidya and marilyn manson...

Edgy...

[octopushover]

stripper story thread reads like a bunch of white people just found out about street lingo and think it's the funniest thing ever

[studyguy]

stripper story thread reads like a bunch of white people just found out about street lingo and think it's the funniest thing ever

Problem being that a bunch of shit matches up that internet detectives looked into which makes it all the more hilarious and sad. Not long till "Based on a true story" lifetime daytime film drops.

Having a good time reading all the people bitching at diction/grammar like they haven't been reading internet shorthand meme text and shit for years now.

[Shadow Mod]

stripper story thread reads like a bunch of white people just found out about street lingo and think it's the funniest thing ever

Problem being that a bunch of shit matches up that internet detectives looked into which makes it all the more hilarious and sad. Not long till "Based on a true story" lifetime daytime film drops.

Having a good time reading all the people bitching at diction/grammar like they haven't been reading internet shorthand meme text and shit for years now.

Best part is how people who incessantly whine about that are constantly writing in fragments and forgot that semi colons exist. My grammar and sentence structure is terrible but I'm not going out of my way to shame anyone anymore about theirs when I realized how much mine has degraded into run ons and other bullshit.

[VomKriege]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=183284861



Let's keep pondering convoluted scenarios before doing anything.

[Shadow Mod]

There's nothing more disturbing to me than a bunch of people sitting around "slippery sloping" the idea of ceasing production of illustrated child porn with "what's next?" or "Artist expression tho!"

Guess who liked to take pictures of nude children and proclaim it as art?

Child molestors.

[studyguy]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=183284861



Let's keep pondering convoluted scenarios before doing anything.

I doubt that's a "what if" scenario for the guy, it's too specific to be. Might as well ask him the name of the artist or the work

[mormapope]

The scenario is making me wonder, are some people only attracted to children? Is there no attraction to fully grown people for some individuals? Or is this a case of people whining and crying when their preferred smut is taken away?

Hard to tell with this scenario.

[meeb]

Why are there still people here who don't have Mods Help on ignore?

[Shadow Mod]

The scenario is making me wonder, are some people only attracted to children? Is there no attraction to fully grown people for some individuals? Or is this a case of people whining and crying when their preferred smut is taken away?

Hard to tell with this scenario.

Let's say for shits and giggles you don't get off to this stuff but actually do see it as a slippery slope to banning other things. Notice how even they ignore besada's post about how these kinds of materials actually do have an affect on the brains of predators and spur them on.

Funny how that keeps getting ignored.

Shit is creepy but not as creepy as thought crime/ moral police that punishes people for the victim less "crime" of making creepy drawings that hurt no one.

I keep seeing this "hurt no one" crap as if people don't feed their own fetishes/paraphilias/whatever, especially "deviant" ones, with pornographic materials.

The level of denial is ridiculous.

[Joe Molotov]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=183284861



Let's keep pondering convoluted scenarios before doing anything.

Asking for a friend.

[Shadow Mod]

Who even needs opiate when that thread proves you have a ton of posters in his stead.

 

[Mods Help]

Why are there still people here who don't have Mods Help on ignore?

 

[Mods Help]

[stufte]

Who even needs opiate when that thread proves you have a ton of posters in his stead.

 

Like a pedo hydra.

[Mods Help]

Trauma Team for life

emulate that shit bb

[Tasty]

The Wii had the best lineup of first-party Nintendo games of any console, and their best third-party support since the SNES.

[mormapope]

I feel people forget that the PS3/Xbox 360 had support until 2015. The Wii felt dead around 2010. The 360 and PS3 have five years of extra games compared to the Wii. That kinda makes the Wii look like shit.

Yeah, last gen didn't need to go on for so long, but we got great games the entire time.

[Mods Help]

The Wii did not have the best first party games. Most of their first party games were flawed besides Mario Galaxy's. Metroid sucked, Zelda sucked, Mario Kart sucked, Animal Crossing sucked, no F-zero, it did have a solid Wario Ware and a pretty wicked Rhythm Heaven, as well as Excite Truck. Third party support was mixed, but definitely not their best third party support since SNES. Though, for its credit, it did have winners like Sin and Punishment 2 and Trauma Team.

SNES remains their best console.

N64 had their best first party titles post-SNES, and also their best third party lineup post-SNES.

[studyguy]

Feel like that dog thread is made up 50% of people who genuinely don't like having dogs around (which I can deal with, some people aren't about that life) and 50% of people projecting a ton of insecurities but deflecting them to blame a dog on their own failings.

[mormapope]

The Wii had the best lineup of first-party Nintendo games of any console, and their best third-party support since the SNES.

Besides Super Mario Sunshine, wouldn't the Gamecube be the better contender for that title?

Metroid Prime 1&2 (don't like them, but people go apeshit over Prime)

Super Smash Melee (still the best Smash when it comes to gameplay)

Paper Mario and the Thousand Year Door (best Paper Mario, series never was this good again)

Windwaker (great Zelda game)

Twilight Princess (another great Zelda game)

Animal Crossing

[Shadow Mod]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1130033

This thread, gotta defend that douche Dawkins and pretend Unis are super coddling again. I'm sorry a Uni doesn't want someone who espouses hate speech on campus you dullards.

[archie4208]

SNES had the best 1st party lineup. 

[mormapope]

The Wii did not have the best first party games. Most of their first party games were flawed besides Mario Galaxy's. Metroid sucked, Zelda sucked, Mario Kart sucked, Animal Crossing sucked, no F-zero, it did have a solid Wario Ware and a pretty wicked Rhythm Heaven, as well as Excite Truck. Third party support was mixed, but definitely not their best third party support since SNES.

SNES remains their best console.

N64 had their best first party titles post-SNES, and also their best third party lineup post-SNES.

 

The only first party titles that still reign supreme are Super Mario 64 and Star Fox 64. Everything else is a toss up and debatable.

[Mods Help]

Amazing how a once esteemed biologist has turned into...whatever Richard Dawkins is now.

[Purrp Skirrp]

stripper story thread reads like a bunch of white people just found out about street lingo and think it's the funniest thing ever

Problem being that a bunch of shit matches up that internet detectives looked into which makes it all the more hilarious and sad. Not long till "Based on a true story" lifetime daytime film drops.

Having a good time reading all the people bitching at diction/grammar like they haven't been reading internet shorthand meme text and shit for years now.

The story is entertainingly depressing, but that thread turned real shitty fast.

You got lames overstating it as the best shit ever™, spergs malfunctioning because of the diction and grammar, and moral goobers fellating themselves over their inability to find humor.

[Mods Help]

The Wii did not have the best first party games. Most of their first party games were flawed besides Mario Galaxy's. Metroid sucked, Zelda sucked, Mario Kart sucked, Animal Crossing sucked, no F-zero, it did have a solid Wario Ware and a pretty wicked Rhythm Heaven, as well as Excite Truck. Third party support was mixed, but definitely not their best third party support since SNES.

SNES remains their best console.

N64 had their best first party titles post-SNES, and also their best third party lineup post-SNES.

 

The only first party titles that still reign supreme are Super Mario 64 and Star Fox 64. Everything else is a toss up and debatable.

Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask aren't really debatable. Also, Sin and Punishment. Including Paper Mario, which I'm not even a massive fan of, Kirby 64, Wave Race, Pokemon Snap, it's a no contest.

Third party, they had Goemon, Mischief Makers, WCW No Mercy, Harvest Moon 64,  Ogre Battle.

Ultimately though, picking a best Nintendo system post-SNES is like picking which turd was the best. They were all lopsided highly flawed systems, but in hindsight, the N64 had the most going for it in terms of exclusives, innovation, and Nintendo giving a shit.

But if we're including handhelds, Nintendo's actual best system post-SNES is obviously the DS.

I'd say it's their best system period including consoles, although that has virtually nothing to do with Nintendo first party.

[Rufus]

The scenario is making me wonder, are some people only attracted to children? Is there no attraction to fully grown people for some individuals?

That's what pedophilia is.

Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger.

Not every kiddy-diddler is a pedophile, either, same way not every prison-gay dude is homosexual.

[Kara]

The saddest thing in those discussions is how we are still forced to use made up categories of people and in a way perpetuate them ("Whites" "Blacks" "Arabs" etc... All rather meaningless). But that's the legacy we were given, with all the very real consequences of this artificial divide.

I try to append "people" in there somewhere when the conversation gives me little recourse to eschew using the created racial categories. It's not much, but doing something is better than nothing.

Purging gendered speech has been much easier. Thank you singular they.

[mormapope]

The N64 in my mind is a local party system first, with single player games lacking significantly behind. Thousand Year Door is way better than the first Paper Mario, there wasn't a single Metroid game on N64, new IPs created by Nintendo for the N64 were forgettable as fuck.

The only franchises that got mega fucked in the Gamecube era were Star Fox and Kirby. A ton of other franchises got excellent sequels. Along with the new IPs during the Gamecube era being interesting at the very least.

Gamecube also got REmake and RE4. Fuck the N64.

[Shadow Mod]

GAF and some other spaces on the internet have convinced themselves Unis are becoming coddling mechanisms when students don't want the shit tons of money they throw at them going towards paying speakers who espouse hate speech or are war criminals. This isn't shutting out differing opinions when their hateful/war mongering attitudes/actions are fairly mainstream, it's protesting the use of your funds to keep that shit going. Universities have long been places to lend more time/voice to people who are anti-war and pro-equality. Protesting when the speakers are espousing hate speech isn't anything to do with creating a hug box and everything to do with not wanting to give bigots time, space and money to continue that shit. Ugh.

[mormapope]

The scenario is making me wonder, are some people only attracted to children? Is there no attraction to fully grown people for some individuals?

That's what pedophilia is.

Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger.

Not every kiddy-diddler is a pedophile, either, same way not every prison-gay dude is homosexual.

I do question the gay in prison thing. People can argue its a power thing, dominance, that type of stuff. But if you get a hard on and want to fuck dudes in the butt, for any reason, that makes you a homosexual in my book. If dominance of a gender or sex turns you on, it seems illogical to detach the sex of someone completely.

[Mods Help]

The N64 in my mind is a local party system first, with single player games lacking significantly behind. Thousand Year Door is way better than the first Paper Mario, there wasn't a single Metroid game on N64, new IPs created by Nintendo for the N64 were forgettable as fuck.

The only franchises that got mega fucked in the Gamecube era were Star Fox and Kirby. A ton of other franchises got excellent sequels. Along with the new IPs during the Gamecube era being interesting at the very least.

Gamecube also got REmake and RE4. Fuck the N64.

RE4 was on ps2 by the end of 2005. REmake was one of the only reasons to keep a GC next to Killer 7. GC wasn't all that, and Xbox had better versions of third party games anyways. GC had more single player games for sure, but it's like, it was so weak compared to the rest of the generation, on both xbox and ps2, that gc looks ghastly in comparison. GC didn't have two exclusive Zelda's. TP (the superior game to WW) came out on Wii.



Instead we should be bowing down to the real Nintendo system winner.

[VomKriege]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=183291947

Stealth stalinian state in North America confirmed.
By the way, all debates on GAF seem to share this outrageous conception of what laws are. Whether CP, guns or work regulations, a lot of the time they are held to ridiculous standards. Like they are useless if they can't work 100% of the time or cover every nook and cranny of a particular issue.

[mormapope]

GAF and some other spaces on the internet have convinced themselves Unis are becoming coddling mechanisms when students don't want the shit tons of money they throw at them going towards paying speakers who espouse hate speech or are war criminals. This isn't shutting out differing opinions when their hateful/war mongering attitudes/actions are fairly mainstream, it's protesting the use of your funds to keep that shit going. Universities have long been places to lend more time/voice to people who are anti-war and pro-equality. Protesting when the speakers are espousing hate speech isn't anything to do with creating a hug box and everything to do with not wanting to give bigots time, space and money to continue that shit. Ugh.

European Universities win again, the money spent for any speaker is negligent compared to the four year Universities in the US.

 

[Mods Help]

A lot of time these speakers they talk about that those "darn college kids" are turning away are speaking there for free. They ain't even getting paid for the deal, especially if we're talking about comedians. But somehow that means "college kids these days are pussies" or whatever.

[Rufus]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=183291947

Stealth stalinian state in North America confirmed.
By the way, all debates on GAF seem to share this outrageous conception of what laws are. Whether CP, guns or work regulations, a lot of the time they are held to ridiculous standards. Like they are useless if they can't work 100% of the time or cover every nook and cranny of a particular issue.

You find that everywhere. The way to make up for this in a lot of people's minds is harsher sentencing. Fuck up those you do get really bad, that'll teach the collective conciousness of evil to manifest in another soul.
But also, a lot of that is just flag-waving. Here I am, these are my convictions, let's say them really loudly, so that like-minded people can mingle more effectively.

[Shadow Mod]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=183291947

Stealth stalinian state in North America confirmed.
By the way, all debates on GAF seem to share this outrageous conception of what laws are. Whether CP, guns or work regulations, a lot of the time they are held to ridiculous standards. Like they are useless if they can't work 100% of the time or cover every nook and cranny of a particular issue.

Don't understand Free Speech either. Think everyone is entitled to a platform when FS is just about government censorship, not a guarantee to be heard at a venue or through a medium.

[Boogie]

Why are there still people here who don't have Mods Help on ignore?

'cause I ain't ever used the ignore feature in my decade and a half of forum-ing, and Himuro's latest shtick ain't nearly enough to make me start.

[Kara]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=183291947

Stealth stalinian state in North America confirmed.

My work here is done comrades. Now to retire to my dacha and conclude my days writing the Great Esperanto Novel.

[meeb]

The scenario is making me wonder, are some people only attracted to children? Is there no attraction to fully grown people for some individuals? Or is this a case of people whining and crying when their preferred smut is taken away?

Hard to tell with this scenario.

Let's say for shits and giggles you don't get off to this stuff but actually do see it as a slippery slope to banning other things. Notice how even they ignore besada's post about how these kinds of materials actually do have an affect on the brains of predators and spur them on.

Funny how that keeps getting ignored.

Shit is creepy but not as creepy as thought crime/ moral police that punishes people for the victim less "crime" of making creepy drawings that hurt no one.

I keep seeing this "hurt no one" crap as if people don't feed their own fetishes/paraphilias/whatever, especially "deviant" ones, with pornographic materials.

The level of denial is ridiculous.

I actually think the "hurts no one" crap is something perpetuated by Libertarian modes of thinking, rather than creepy pedos trying to justify their pedo drawn porn fix. Like you see some Libertarian types going on about how PCP and meth should be 100% legal because "it is my own body and I can only harm myself with them." But there are people who have seen their neighborhood destroyed by the introduction of certain drugs (like crack or meth). But certain Libertarians seem to only think that "i fucking stab you with a knife" is the only form of harm that is real.

[bluemax]

GAF and some other spaces on the internet have convinced themselves Unis are becoming coddling mechanisms when students don't want the shit tons of money they throw at them going towards paying speakers who espouse hate speech or are war criminals. This isn't shutting out differing opinions when their hateful/war mongering attitudes/actions are fairly mainstream, it's protesting the use of your funds to keep that shit going. Universities have long been places to lend more time/voice to people who are anti-war and pro-equality. Protesting when the speakers are espousing hate speech isn't anything to do with creating a hug box and everything to do with not wanting to give bigots time, space and money to continue that shit. Ugh.

GAF is the kind of place full of a lot of self taught or tech school nerds. The kind who go to Digipen or FullSail etc and never get a wider breadth of experiences or education.

[meeb]

GAF and some other spaces on the internet have convinced themselves Unis are becoming coddling mechanisms when students don't want the shit tons of money they throw at them going towards paying speakers who espouse hate speech or are war criminals. This isn't shutting out differing opinions when their hateful/war mongering attitudes/actions are fairly mainstream, it's protesting the use of your funds to keep that shit going. Universities have long been places to lend more time/voice to people who are anti-war and pro-equality. Protesting when the speakers are espousing hate speech isn't anything to do with creating a hug box and everything to do with not wanting to give bigots time, space and money to continue that shit. Ugh.

GAF is the kind of place full of a lot of self taught or tech school nerds. The kind who go to Digipen or FullSail etc and never get a wider breadth of experiences or education.

I... don't think that's true?

I do think it has a bunch of socially awkward young teens, who have most of their interaction with other people through GAF. And since your peers can/are a bigger influence on your behavior than your parents, and GAF is their main peer....

[Purrp Skirrp]

The N64 in my mind is a local party system first, with single player games lacking significantly behind. Thousand Year Door is way better than the first Paper Mario, there wasn't a single Metroid game on N64, new IPs created by Nintendo for the N64 were forgettable as fuck.

The only franchises that got mega fucked in the Gamecube era were Star Fox and Kirby. A ton of other franchises got excellent sequels. Along with the new IPs during the Gamecube era being interesting at the very least.

Gamecube also got REmake and RE4. Fuck the N64.

N64 is the second best Nintendo console



4 person multiplayer was 90s extreme at the time, an experience unfitting for your typical PSX weeaboo.

Shh no friends, only FMVs now.

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1080° Snowboarding
Banjo-Kazooie/Banjo-Tooie
BattleTanx/BattleTanx: Global Assault
Beetle Adventure Racing!
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Diddy Kong Racing
F-Zero X
GoldenEye 007
Harvest Moon 64
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Mario Kart 64
Mario Party 1/2/3
Mario Tennis
Paper Mario
Perfect Dark
Pokémon Stadium
Pokémon Stadium 2
Snowboard Kids
Snowboard Kids 2
Star Fox 64
Super Mario 64
Super Smash Bros.
Wave Race 64
AKI wrestling games

Those muddy graphics

Slamming your expansion pak in for the first time

Expressing your individuality through a colored controller

[Shadow Mod]

Don't forget the rumble pack 

[CatsCatsCats]

The saddest thing in those discussions is how we are still forced to use made up categories of people and in a way perpetuate them ("Whites" "Blacks" "Arabs" etc... All rather meaningless). But that's the legacy we were given, with all the very real consequences of this artificial divide.

I try to append "people" in there somewhere when the conversation gives me little recourse to eschew using the created racial categories. It's not much, but doing something is better than nothing.

Purging gendered speech has been much easier. Thank you singular they.

Been using singular they for a decade and a half

[daycru]

N64 was THE console if you weren't a friendless shut in.

[mormapope]

Was the N64 the only major console that required a hardware add on to play future games(expansion pak)?

Perfect Dark single player wasn't playable. Majora's Mask was unplayable without it. Think Donkey Shitstain 64 required it. Seems like only MM and DK64 needed it. Apparently it helped make some games look better when it came to color and resolution?

[Oblivion]

The Wii is a bit inflated in my eyes only because Super Mario Galaxy (and to a lesser extent, SMG2) was so fucking amazing. The fact that it was nothing more than a GC turbo has never sit right with me, so it should lose a billion points just on that alone.

[Oblivion]

Why are there still people here who don't have Mods Help on ignore?

'cause I ain't ever used the ignore function in my decade and a half of forum-ing, and Himuro's latest shtick ain't nearly enough to make me start.

I never used the ignore function to this day. 

Though I was REALLY fucking close to using it when Greatness Gone was still posting. Not so much cause he bugged me, but because the shit he posted is the kind of stuff that would put you on the FBI's watch list.

[Shadow Mod]

N64 was THE console if you weren't a friendless shut in.

Mario Party