The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.

[Let's Cyber]

He's back!  Needs serious advice, so obviously turns to GAF

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1181976

[helios]

He's back!  Needs serious advice, so obviously turns to GAF

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1181976

"I need some advice. Stop giving me advice."

[Phoenix Dark]

Real or fake that is the worst thing I've read on the internet in years.

[Rman]

It's an obvious troll. 

[Rufus]

I sure hope so, but what makes you think so?

[Rman]

He's basically using it as a thinly veiled troll to discuss the legitimacy of rape.  Why do you think he kept saying she wasn't raped?

[Phoenix Dark]

Agreed, that's a troll.

[Rufus]

He's basically using it as a thinly veiled troll to discuss the legitimacy of rape.  Why do you think he kept saying she wasn't raped?

Do not attribute to malice what can't be adequately explained by pigheaded ignorance, but I guess it's not implausible.

Does he have a history?

[Rman]

No idea, but Charlequin thought so too. 

[Jansen]

i want to believe it's a troll because it's too depressing to consider otherwise

[Jansen]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=185308331&postcount=9031

I was wondering if this was a guy thing or not, have any of you lot experienced this:

I've always been a guy who fantasized about having an absolutely gorgeous, thin, perfect girl that I'd be proud to show off to everyone. My current gf now is a real sweetheart, smart, we get along and I like being with her, but she's not that stunner, she's girl-next-door cute but she doesn't take of herself as much as she could. A large part of me still yearns for that perfect, dream girl.

Every time I'm outside and I see a gorgeous girl, I get a bit annoyed that I'm tied down in a relationship and sometimes I feel like, I'm only 22 once, I need to take advantage of being young and play the field.

Anyway, my question is for the guys that have a gf, do you still look and want other girls? Or am I a massive dickhead.

[Great Rumbler]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=185308331&postcount=9031

I was wondering if this was a guy thing or not, have any of you lot experienced this:

I've always been a guy who fantasized about having an absolutely gorgeous, thin, perfect girl that I'd be proud to show off to everyone. My current gf now is a real sweetheart, smart, we get along and I like being with her, but she's not that stunner, she's girl-next-door cute but she doesn't take of herself as much as she could. A large part of me still yearns for that perfect, dream girl.

Every time I'm outside and I see a gorgeous girl, I get a bit annoyed that I'm tied down in a relationship and sometimes I feel like, I'm only 22 once, I need to take advantage of being young and play the field.

Anyway, my question is for the guys that have a gf, do you still look and want other girls? Or am I a massive dickhead.

"Thank God my girlfriend got raped so that I now have an excuse to break-up with her and go find my dream girl!"

 

[qq more]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=185308331&postcount=9031

I was wondering if this was a guy thing or not, have any of you lot experienced this:

I've always been a guy who fantasized about having an absolutely gorgeous, thin, perfect girl that I'd be proud to show off to everyone. My current gf now is a real sweetheart, smart, we get along and I like being with her, but she's not that stunner, she's girl-next-door cute but she doesn't take of herself as much as she could. A large part of me still yearns for that perfect, dream girl.

Every time I'm outside and I see a gorgeous girl, I get a bit annoyed that I'm tied down in a relationship and sometimes I feel like, I'm only 22 once, I need to take advantage of being young and play the field.

Anyway, my question is for the guys that have a gf, do you still look and want other girls? Or am I a massive dickhead.

Has to be a troll. What a slimy piece of shit if not though, wow.

[brawndolicious]

I don't think the guy has ever been in a relationship or that either of his posts are true. The way he describes the gf who got raped sounds like the way an immature teen would describe their dream woman. Neither post is about trying to process the guilt of wanting to abandon or cheat on your partner, it's about whether it's okay to do that.

I mean, even a sociopath would know what the rules are in society. This mostly sounds like a loser asshole trying to imagine being in a position to emotionally neglect a woman.

[FStop7]

Way too on the nose, gotta be a troll.

oh and it's over, Ye stans.

https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/697199554807099394

[thisismyusername]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194699558&postcount=1016

Screens look like a 360 game.

 

Didn't know if they were talking this gen until I clicked. Saw it was RDR, and literally pulled the same comeon reaction. Like... what do you expect out of Back Comp?

[SJDragoon]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1182077

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1182077

(Image removed from quote.)

[mormapope]

I think the constant flow of shitposting and generally socially distinguished mentally-challenged posts on neogaf has broken a lot of your guys' trolldar. Like those rape posts have so little troll effort that is should be quite obvious.

[Jansen]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1182134

[Jansen]

 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1182155

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1182023

so many the last of us mentions 

[mormapope]

The people that prop up TLOU and Bloodborne all the time probably don't play games that often. "This new thing is the greatest thing ever" is usually a lot more prominent with videogames compared to other media. Or at least, that narrative feels a lot more forced.

Eh, actually, that sorta happened with Mad Max. A good action movie comes out and a lot of people treated it like it was the best thing since Terminator 2 or The Matrix.

[thisismyusername]

Eh, actually, that sorta happened with Mad Max. A good action movie comes out and a lot of people treated it like it was the best thing since Terminator 2 or The Matrix.

Well it was.
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In an unrelated to the above but totally related to "GAF is a pedo haven" note: https://motherboard.vice.com/read/youtube-celebrities-uses-minecraft-to-prey-on-underage-fans

at that article. And the pre-teen fans defending those shit Youtubers. 

[mormapope]

I don't know if Collateral is technically an action movie or an action thriller, but that's one of the best movies ever. 

[nachobro]

fury road is definitely the tlou of movies

[Mods Help]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=194775275#post194775275

[mormapope]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=194775275#post194775275

I remember sorta* feeling this way after playing Half Life 2, Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, MGS3, GTA San Andreas, and RE4 all in the span of a year. Turns out that sorta was the peak of videogames.

All of those games are timeless. Can do full playthroughs of any of those games nowadays and still be amazed how great they are. 

Four Souls games in the past five years has burnt me out on the franchise completely. Don't even care about Dark Souls 3 at this point.

[The Legend of Sunblade]

It's possible for someone to feel the same way about the Souls games as you do about the games you mentioned. I could play three of the four Souls games again and not get bored all the way through, but not want to play any of the ones you mentioned for more than an hour.

I agree that that particular post is spergy as all fuck, but I don't disagree with his general sentiment. Fuckin' Undertale has me in the same "well, now what do I play funk" after completing it and most people wouldn't agree to that in the least. People get different things outta different games.

[mormapope]

It happened to me recently with replaying Half Life 2.

"There hasn't been nor will there be a first person shooter with pacing like this, fast and fair gameplay, awesome ragdolls and physics. Fun first person platforming, a story that moves along really concisely.  "



A lot of people shit on Half Life 2 nowadays, shitting on Half Life 2 is a meme now. Its to be assumed that shooting dudes doesn't feel good or that combat isn't fun, when really its the complete opposite.

These same people will recommend CoD4 and say its one of the best shooter campaigns ever. That shit is linear, boring garbage.

[Mods Help]

I understand the whole thing "well that was great, what next" but applying it to life?

[mormapope]

It happened to me recently with replaying Half Life 2.

"There hasn't been nor will there be a first person shooter with pacing like this, fast and fair gameplay, awesome ragdolls and physics. Fun first person platforming, a story that moves along really concisely.  "



A lot of people shit on Half Life 2 nowadays, shitting on Half Life 2 is a meme now. Its to be assumed that shooting dudes doesn't feel good or that combat isn't fun, when really its the complete opposite.

These same people will recommend CoD4 and say its one of the best shooter campaigns ever. That shit is linear, boring garbage.

I'm sorry pope but this post is the last fucking straw.

Half-Life 2 does a lot of things right. Gunplay is not one of them.

The shooting feels fucking garbage like 95% of the time.

It's even worse in Team Fortress 2.

It makes me think that's how the idea for Portal came up. "We have no idea how to make guns satisfying in games, let's just replace guns with some kind of Portal weapon thingy".

 

The shotgun and magnum are rad as fuck, and there's always ammo for those two weapons. Also helps that the shotgun has great range and the magnum is a long range weapon. The crossbow is great, the pulse rifle alt fire orb is great. The smg and pistol are weak, those are two weak weapons in a otherwise fun as fuck arsenal. How many games have satisfying ragdolls for enemies? Not many at all. Shooting someone in Half Life 2 and seeing them drop like a sack of potatoes realistically is satisfying as fuck.

I will also never understand the hate Bioshock Infinite gets. It improved on Bioshock's gunplay tenfold, the soundtrack was excellent, the art design is excellent, the voice acting is excellent, the pacing is great. Feels like people went in assuming they would automatically love it. At the end of the day its a great shooter where all you do is shoot shit.

[The Legend of Sunblade]

I understand the whole thing "well that was great, what next" but applying it to life?

I figured the title was jokey in nature, but then again, you never know with company stans.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I had no idea that I was older than Wrath, even if its just a year. 

[close]

[VomKriege]

Cheers for the spoilers

Well now that scene won't be a surprise, thanks.

Thanks for this. Not a massive spoiler, but it kind of ruins the moment.

what a bunch of fucking babies

When did courtesy become a dogmatic demand ? Spoiler culture is weird, looks like a contradictory reaction to culture being more and more mass produced and internet. There's something very entitled and unpractical about wanting to be shielded from any sensitive info while still partaking in the discussion...

[Let's Cyber]

2015 is one of the best years of gaming if we're being honest. So many games I actually really, really liked with others I haven't gotten around to yet.

Oh and Sunblade I loved Undertale too. Great game.

agreed. 

At the time I remember thinking that 18-24 month period from fall 2004-spring 2006 was the golden era.  But then 2007 came and was amazing in its own right.  I'd put 2015 right up there too

[The Legend of Sunblade]

 I thought Infinite was a terrible game with atrocious pacing, an incredibly pretentious plot, awful sub-mechanics, (randomized gear pick-ups? Really?), like 3-4 basic enemy types that just keep getting more health added to them and really run of the mill weaponry where a lot of the guns were just slight tweeks of other guns. The fact that every preview for the game since its announcement showed content that wasnt in the game certainly didnt help, or that it presented an interesting world that it does nothing of value with nor can you interact with.

Neither of us are gonna go out of our way to make a spergy as fuck thread with recorded footage of us playing through it though.

[The Legend of Sunblade]

Cheers for the spoilers

Well now that scene won't be a surprise, thanks.

Thanks for this. Not a massive spoiler, but it kind of ruins the moment.

what a bunch of fucking babies

When did courtesy become a dogmatic demand ? Spoiler culture is weird, looks like a contradictory reaction to culture being more and more mass produced and internet. There's something very entitled and unpractical about wanting to be shielded from any sensitive info while still partaking in the discussion...

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=194681282

This was my favorite post from today's Firewatch spoiler thread. I know he's 100% serious too.

Every piece of media has one or two big twists, let's say. They are the thing that the entire story hinges on, it's what everything sets up to, and it's where the payoff is.

Don't openly talk about them in mixed company. Ever. It's not your place to talk about them. You can talk about smaller things, you can talk about the setup, but you never ever have to mention any of the payoffs, ever. If you think the story's great? If you think it's shit? If you're a writer worth his salt, you don't need to talk about the big secret(s) in specific detail to convey your feelings.

[mormapope]

The only things I'll fight to death over are Max Payne 3 haters and people that love MGS4.

Every time MGS4 was mentioned on Gaf I would put effort into shitting on it. It seems like MGS2 is getting the love it deserves and more people are coming to the conclusion that MGS4 is putrid turd.
 

[El Babua]

MGS4 was definitely one of the most disappointing games I ever played. Any person that praises its story, I immediately stop taking their opinion seriously on anything. 

Bioshock Infinite was also pretty bad. A game hobbled together from grander ambitions.

As far as games lately are concerned, last year was definitely good. Last couple of years were 'OK'. We're nearly 3 years into this gen, and it feels like we haven't really had a "breakout" year like 98, 01, or 07 were to the last three gens.

[El Babua]

^True.

Quality wise, I could definitely make a case for 2015, but I guess I'm feeling that newer games don't really have that "Oh wow, this is new and couldn't have been done before" in them. I could just be becoming a cynical old head idk.

[mormapope]

^True.

Quality wise, I could definitely make a case for 2015, but I guess I'm feeling that newer games don't really have that "Oh wow, this is new and couldn't have been done before" in them. I could just be becoming a cynical old head idk.

Nah. Games have been intensely iterative since these new systems launched. 2013 was a pretty great year for last gen consoles to go out on. 

For example, does anyone remember that a Infamous game came out two years ago? What about Dead Rising 3, a launch title for the Xbone? Dragon Age Inquisition was hot shit and then dropped off the face of the earth. That Mad Max game.

Shit, Fallout 4 feels like a game that came out a few years ago, and its been four months. This gen hasn't had any new tricks up its sleeve when it comes polish or innovation. Last gen was all about polish and refinement. Were big games buggy? Sure, but mechanically, games became really tight.

Bayonetta 2 came two years ago I want to say. Games that were either good or great, but they have zero lasting power.

Following the hobby and being able to guess or know game dates from last gen or gens ago better than whats come out in the past few years is telling.

[mormapope]

The drama of the Xbox 360/PS3/Wii gen was also a lot more entertaining.

[mormapope]

Lack of innovation is one thing, refinement of mechanics peaking is another. I'm not one to argue that innovation is the end all, be all type of thing. But some genres and franchises have been quiet as can be.

I'll give this gen two more years before calling it a big dud as a whole, but a lot of franchises that got multiple sequels last gen seem dead this time around.

I think people gave the previous generation way too much shit at times. The PS2 gen had a ton of great games, but a lot of lower budget games would usually be clunky as fuck and have really weird mechanical issues. Whereas last gen, lower budget retail games were mechanically solid and jank would be very minimal. 

[mormapope]

The best thing happening in this gen are Japanese devs warming up to Steam and stuff being ported to PC in general. Indie devs are also starting to expand their budgets or ambitions if they find success. Engine licensing being fair and the tools & tricks getting better over time is also another good thing.

Hopefully Rockstar shows and releases whatever they've been working on soon. Kojima also making his first game outside of Konami will also be really exciting.

I dunno, I actually wasn't a fan of last gen until late into it, like 09/10. 07-08, the supposedly amazing videogame years that made that gen, I found to be whatever. It wasn't till 09, where more games I like started coming out, that I started liking that gen.

I was balls deep in the summer of 2006. Playing CoD 2 and DoA4 with people online constantly, playing Dead Rising and Oblivion. Gears of War and Rainbow Six Vegas were rad as fuck multiplayer games. Saints Row 1 and its janky but entertaining multiplayer.

2007 was also dope. Excellent single players games and then CoD4 coming out at the end of the year. The Orange Box, Mass Effect, and CoD4 at the same time?

 

Being an early adapter with the 360 was a double edged sword. Excellent games at the cost of having a paper mache quality console. I'd actually consider 2008 and 2009 to be weak compared to any other set of years.

[Let's Cyber]

.2007 was also dope. Excellent single players games and then CoD4 coming out at the end of the year. The Orange Box, Mass Effect, and CoD4 at the same time?

as a console peasant growing up, CoD4 was my first online shooter.  Good stuff at the time.  It's pretty fucking janky now, but Mass Effect was some jaw dropping shit, felt "next gen"

Going from ps2 on a fat CRT to Mass Effect on a HD LCD 

[Atramental]

The N64 controller design is rather   though.

[Rufus]

The Dreamcast controller has that crown, among the consoles that mattered (well..). It's uncomfortable, the stick is slippery, the d-pad sucks, the VMU idea is pointless and gave them the idea to run the cable out the bottom; it's just all around shit.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Criticise a revolutionary controller that changed gaming 

Could it have been better? Yes.

Was it at the time of launch the best way to play 3D games on consoles? Yes.

Playing Mario 64 with the analog pad was a game changer, these gaf plebs don't remember.

[tiesto]

MGS4 was definitely one of the most disappointing games I ever played. Any person that praises its story, I immediately stop taking their opinion seriously on anything. 

Bioshock Infinite was also pretty bad. A game hobbled together from grander ambitions.

As far as games lately are concerned, last year was definitely good. Last couple of years were 'OK'. We're nearly 3 years into this gen, and it feels like we haven't really had a "breakout" year like 98, 01, or 07 were to the last three gens.

MGS4 was a serious disappointment as far as storytelling went, but there is some decent gameplay in the early parts of it... but still, I have no idea why it's so praised... 1-3 were all much better, and for all the failings of 5, the actual gameplay was fantastic.

[ToxicAdam]

I understand the criticism for the Gamecube controller though. It wasn't something many people immediately picked up and loved. It took a couple dozen hours and a few different games before you really came to appreciate/love it.

[archie4208]

The N64 controller is great, so was the Gamecube's and hell the Wiimote.

Nintendo has many issues, controllers isn't one of them.

Wii U's pro controller is probably the most comfortable and best feeling controller I've ever used.

Too bad I barely get to use it.  :'(

[Fifstar]

I thought it was great from the beginning, because it was the most comfortable controller I ever had in my hand until that point.

Some people fell that the button layout wasn't great for but in my mind only few games (like beat em ups, where all buttons are equally used) aren't really suited for the layout, as most games have primary buttons. A+Y or A+X also felt great. B button could have been bigger though.

D-Pad was shit though, that's a valid criticism.

[tiesto]

I understand the criticism for the Gamecube controller though. It wasn't something many people immediately picked up and loved. It took a couple dozen hours and a few different games before you really came to appreciate/love it.

Gamecube controller was perfect for Smash, meh for everything else. A larger d-pad and consistent face button sizes would have elevated it to one of the best, though.

The separate Wiimote + Nunchuck actually felt fairly comfortable and worked well for certain games. Rail shooters/light gun games with the IR sensor played like a dream, and it was pretty nice for RPGs and other slower-paced games too. It's a shame that 'waggle' infected so many of its games and soured people on the setup, since I did think the Wii had a lot of potential that could have been expanded.

I hated the N64's rather unorthodox layout, but I have an unexplained bias against the system. Never did like much of its library outside of the 2 Zeldas, Bangai-O, Mischief Makers, Ogre Battle, and of course Sin and Punishment. Too many 3D collectathon platformers that all had the same foggy and polygon-starved environments, muddy textures, and blurry resolution.

[Let's Cyber]

The Dreamcast controller has that crown, among the consoles that mattered (well..). It's uncomfortable, the stick is slippery, the d-pad sucks, the VMU idea is pointless and gave them the idea to run the cable out the bottom; it's just all around shit.

I liked the Dreamcast d-pad 

[brob]

it's not the worst, but as a follow-up to the saturn d-pad the dreamcast one is wildly disappointing

[Mods Help]

The Dreamcast controller has that crown, among the consoles that mattered (well..). It's uncomfortable, the stick is slippery, the d-pad sucks, the VMU idea is pointless and gave them the idea to run the cable out the bottom; it's just all around shit.

I laid the foundation for the Xbox controller.

Triggers were an ingenious design. Influences controlled even today.

Its stick is far from slippery btw. It has grip due to the dots on the stick surface.

DC controller isn't the best, but it's far better than n64's. I can't take any opinion of the reverse seriously.

[Rufus]

The Dreamcast controller has that crown, among the consoles that mattered (well..). It's uncomfortable, the stick is slippery, the d-pad sucks, the VMU idea is pointless and gave them the idea to run the cable out the bottom; it's just all around shit.

I laid the foundation for the Xbox controller.

Triggers were an ingenious design. Influences controlled even today.

Its stick is far from slippery btw. It has grip due to the dots on the stick surface.

DC controller isn't the best, but it's far better than n64's. I can't take any opinion of the reverse seriously.

The triggers are its only saving grace.

Are you trying to tell me that my thumbs don't slip off the damn thing? 

I could look past most of its issues if the grips weren't parallel but angled or at the very least wider. The grips are the main thing that annoy me about the GC controller too.

[thisismyusername]

Every time MGS4 was mentioned on Gaf I would put effort into shitting on it. It seems like MGS2 is getting the love it deserves and more people are coming to the conclusion that MGS4 is putrid turd.
 

Both of them are Putrid turds. MGS1/3 only. No items. Final Destination.

[Mods Help]

The Dreamcast controller has that crown, among the consoles that mattered (well..). It's uncomfortable, the stick is slippery, the d-pad sucks, the VMU idea is pointless and gave them the idea to run the cable out the bottom; it's just all around shit.

I laid the foundation for the Xbox controller.

Triggers were an ingenious design. Influences controlled even today.

Its stick is far from slippery btw. It has grip due to the dots on the stick surface.

DC controller isn't the best, but it's far better than n64's. I can't take any opinion of the reverse seriously.

The triggers are its only saving grace.

Are you trying to tell me that my thumbs don't slip off the damn thing? 

I could look past most of its issues if the grips weren't parallel but angled or at the very least wider. The grips are the main thing that annoy me about the GC controller too.

Eh, they kind of slip but only during a hectic jsr run.

if dc had a second stick that controller would low key be better than most dual shocks

[benjipwns]

Dreamcast controller needs two more buttons.

I guess a second stick would be okay too.

Oh wait, I just made the Xbox controller...now if only we could put those two extra buttons up on top of the controller...

[benjipwns]

Cheers for the spoilers

Well now that scene won't be a surprise, thanks.

Thanks for this. Not a massive spoiler, but it kind of ruins the moment.

what a bunch of fucking babies

When did courtesy become a dogmatic demand ? Spoiler culture is weird, looks like a contradictory reaction to culture being more and more mass produced and internet. There's something very entitled and unpractical about wanting to be shielded from any sensitive info while still partaking in the discussion...

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=194681282

This was my favorite post from today's Firewatch spoiler thread. I know he's 100% serious too.

Every piece of media has one or two big twists, let's say. They are the thing that the entire story hinges on, it's what everything sets up to, and it's where the payoff is.

Don't openly talk about them in mixed company. Ever. It's not your place to talk about them. You can talk about smaller things, you can talk about the setup, but you never ever have to mention any of the payoffs, ever. If you think the story's great? If you think it's shit? If you're a writer worth his salt, you don't need to talk about the big secret(s) in specific detail to convey your feelings.

Thanks for spoiling that these things have things worth spoiling.

Insensitive fucks.