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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #17100 on: May 05, 2016, 03:41:31 AM »
To be fair, that review thread is pretty subdued that far (apart from those crying spoilers because a couple of pics are in the thread), but I suspect GAF will revert back to its nagging self once a real outlier review is posted and when we'll be many pages in of circular discussion.
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #17101 on: May 05, 2016, 03:53:12 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202681913&postcount=800

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- Far too much padding
- Far, far too many pace-sagging artificial roadblocks to progress

This is what Videogamer has in their cons. What exactly is padding? Not sure what they mean with the last bit. I'd read the review but I don't have the time now.

You have time to read the cons, select them, paste them into a neogaf thread you're browsing, but not to read the review ? :comeon

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202682419&postcount=901

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Just curious then, why did he end up reviewing it? Not saying you have to be a super fanboy of the series but surely someone who's a loose fan at worst?

Reviews should be only done by "loose fans at worst"  :doge
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #17102 on: May 05, 2016, 04:00:04 AM »
It's really not about assessing quality at all for the people you've quoted. They just want validation, so of course they want the same thing PR wants, i.e. someone favourable to do the review.

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #17103 on: May 05, 2016, 04:28:35 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202683699&postcount=1181

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Games cost more money, take more time, and are moving away from single player experiences. A game like Uncharted 4 doesn't exactly happen but a few times every decade. What I think is most indicative of the changing of times is how reviewers have become larger celebrities than the games they seek to critique.

In saying that- anything higher than a 90 is like a 10 for me. The review process, amount of outlets, cynicism, and barrier to break to achieve a higher than 90 on metacritic is stupidly broken. It's almost like inflation, a 80 today is like a 95 a decade ago.

Some legit :derp in there. Reviewers being larger celebrities than the games ?
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #17104 on: May 05, 2016, 04:29:24 AM »
Frame your entire existence on this planet with Uncharted games brehs

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« Reply #17105 on: May 05, 2016, 04:35:47 AM »
I don't know why you guys think that was a troll. My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low-grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a 15 year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink, he would make outrageous claims, like he invented the question mark. Sometimes, he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy – the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical: summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring, we’d make meat helmets. When I was insolent, I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds. Pretty standard, really.

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« Reply #17106 on: May 05, 2016, 05:52:56 AM »
Another embarrassing review thread!?! Who saw that coming!
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« Reply #17107 on: May 05, 2016, 07:05:47 AM »
Uncharted 4 has a Metacritic score of 94% at the moment.

I think we will all get through this.

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« Reply #17108 on: May 05, 2016, 07:13:04 AM »
anything below 95% is haram
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« Reply #17109 on: May 05, 2016, 07:33:45 AM »
UC was always a 7/10 shooter with 10/10 production values and charm.

Very well said.
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #17110 on: May 05, 2016, 07:49:29 AM »
based on the dudes thread creation history im going to go with the "full of shit" conclusion as well

He might be a pathological liar.  My sister is one.  It's interesting to see her retell stories that are so exaggerated that they turn into pure fiction.  There is usually a small 1% kernel of truth wrapped up in 99% bullshit.
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #17111 on: May 05, 2016, 07:57:05 AM »
I don't know why you guys think that was a troll. My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low-grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a 15 year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink, he would make outrageous claims, like he invented the question mark. Sometimes, he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy – the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical: summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring, we’d make meat helmets. When I was insolent, I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds. Pretty standard, really.

I dunno where this is from, one of the funniest things I have read in a while

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #17112 on: May 05, 2016, 08:33:15 AM »
UC was always a 7/10 shooter with 10/10 production values and charm.

No one would think twice about it if it were multi platform
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« Reply #17113 on: May 05, 2016, 09:25:27 AM »
You'd think a bunch of high valued stocks were tanking the way gaffers lose their shit over review scores.

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« Reply #17114 on: May 05, 2016, 09:26:18 AM »
I don't know why you guys think that was a troll. My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low-grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a 15 year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink, he would make outrageous claims, like he invented the question mark. Sometimes, he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy – the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical: summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring, we’d make meat helmets. When I was insolent, I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds. Pretty standard, really.

I dunno where this is from, one of the funniest things I have read in a while

Austin Powers.  I think it was the second movie.
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #17115 on: May 05, 2016, 12:25:26 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1215215

A thread in which Gaffers equate people disliking a youtube video en masse means there's ulterior motive by the people disliking or that disliking a video is now a meme.

Maybe, just maybe, people watched the trailer and thought "this looks like generic shit" and then disliked it.
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« Reply #17116 on: May 05, 2016, 12:28:06 PM »
You'd think a bunch of high valued stocks were tanking the way gaffers lose their shit over review scores.

Two things have made discussing games, especially on places like gaf tedious for me. Metacritic scores and pixel counters

Half the time it doesn't even come down to whether they themselves enjoy the game. Just that the reviews all line up so they can masturbate over the metacritic score.

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #17117 on: May 05, 2016, 12:31:55 PM »
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« Reply #17118 on: May 05, 2016, 12:32:01 PM »
I don't know why you guys think that was a troll. My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low-grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a 15 year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink, he would make outrageous claims, like he invented the question mark. Sometimes, he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy – the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical: summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring, we’d make meat helmets. When I was insolent, I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds. Pretty standard, really.

I dunno where this is from, one of the funniest things I have read in a while

Austin Powers.  I think it was the second movie.

First one, but yeah.

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #17119 on: May 05, 2016, 12:48:53 PM »
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« Reply #17120 on: May 05, 2016, 01:15:26 PM »
I think IGN should really keep that 8.8 as the final score :lol :lol
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« Reply #17121 on: May 05, 2016, 01:36:17 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202682419&postcount=901

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Just curious then, why did he end up reviewing it? Not saying you have to be a super fanboy of the series but surely someone who's a loose fan at worst?

Reviews should be only done by "loose fans at worst"  :doge
He raises a good ethical question though. Why can't outlets wait to find someone who actually likes the game before they give it a review score. Someone who likes the game is more likely to actively enjoy playing it and therefore be able to tell all the readers what is great about the game rather than dwelling on nitpicking due to personal slights they have against the games developers out of jealously.

If anything the FTC needs to publish some guidelines so that reviewers aren't providing misleading information due to not being properly informed about the benefits of a game.

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« Reply #17122 on: May 05, 2016, 01:45:33 PM »
UC2 was the best TPS last gen.

Looks like UC4 is following suit.  :aah

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« Reply #17123 on: May 05, 2016, 02:01:28 PM »
UC2 was the best TPS last gen.

Looks like UC4 is following suit.  :aah

 :donot

Uncharted as a series isn't terrible, its good, but besides set pieces you can control and the writing not being as dog shit as something in Gears of War, the gameplay itself is nothing to write home about.

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« Reply #17124 on: May 05, 2016, 02:02:36 PM »
All of the reviews I've seen have been glowing but there is still consternation in the review thread?  I don't get it.


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« Reply #17125 on: May 05, 2016, 02:08:48 PM »
UC2 was the best TPS last gen.

Looks like UC4 is following suit.  :aah

 :donot

Uncharted as a series isn't terrible, its good, but besides set pieces you can control and the writing not being as dog shit as something in Gears of War, the gameplay itself is nothing to write home about.

Amazing pacing, encounter and level design, freedom of movement > fat armored guy hugging a wall and playing rhythmic reload

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #17126 on: May 05, 2016, 02:09:48 PM »
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=202680449
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8 scores will just lower the final score in metacritics so it won't reach a record for the final chapter. This episode should beat the records
He also raises a good point. A reviewers' job includes preserving the contextual legacy of the franchises. It's irresponsible to not ensure that those looking back in ten, twenty years get an accurate picture of just how groundbreaking and emotional of an experience playing these games was. Allowing something of the scale and importance of Uncharted to have the same score as some $20 indie garbage or a multiplatform title is the equivalent of video game sedition.

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« Reply #17127 on: May 05, 2016, 02:11:04 PM »
Encounter and level design?

I mean I like UC2 and 3 but most of the time it feels pretty thoughtless in that area. Like here's more waves of the same dudes over and over.

Best TPS of last gen? Vanquish or Max Payne 3 easily.
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« Reply #17128 on: May 05, 2016, 02:17:19 PM »
groundbreaking and emotional

SPOILERS DUDE
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #17129 on: May 05, 2016, 02:19:22 PM »
Frame your entire existence on this planet with Uncharted games brehs

Not even the games themselves, just their metacritic scores.
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« Reply #17130 on: May 05, 2016, 02:21:33 PM »
I was unfair with Gears 3 in the past, single player picks up pretty quickly after the first half hour. Gears Judgement had butchered and botched multiplayer, but the single player is actually excellent.

Vanquish has great mechanics and gunplay marred by bad pacing. Max Payne 3 is exactly the same, but amplified even more. The best gunplay and movement/animation ever for a shooter, with constant interruptions.

Max Payne 3 would probably be my favorite game of all time. Played through all the difficulties twice for a total of 8 story playthroughs. Did all the New York Minute levels twice. Still have to beat it on new york minute hardcore.

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« Reply #17131 on: May 05, 2016, 02:23:42 PM »
I want to say max payne 3 is one of the best TPS from last gen but the unskippable cutscenes that were hiding loading were dealbreakers for me.

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« Reply #17132 on: May 05, 2016, 02:25:19 PM »
I want to say max payne 3 is one of the best TPS from last gen but the unskippable cutscenes that were hiding loading were dealbreakers for me.
Unskippable cutscenes are a dealbreaker no matter what.  It's usually a hint from the developer not to replay the game.

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« Reply #17133 on: May 05, 2016, 02:33:31 PM »

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« Reply #17134 on: May 05, 2016, 03:26:17 PM »
ThoughtsOfSpeaking is very annoyingly opinionated. Not a fan of his posts
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« Reply #17135 on: May 05, 2016, 03:29:38 PM »
Nioh demo was good but the pissing contest bullshit is so played out.

When the only way to feel good about yourself is bragging online about the difficulty of the games you play...

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #17136 on: May 05, 2016, 04:02:02 PM »
Frame your entire existence on this planet with Uncharted games brehs

Not even the games themselves, just their metacritic scores.
The metacritic score isn't the game?

maybe on lesser consoles

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« Reply #17137 on: May 05, 2016, 04:17:47 PM »
Metacritic scores. The ultimate metagame.  :doge

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« Reply #17138 on: May 05, 2016, 04:42:22 PM »
What score would Metacritic get?

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« Reply #17140 on: May 05, 2016, 05:30:51 PM »
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« Reply #17141 on: May 05, 2016, 05:48:13 PM »
gaming was a mistake

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« Reply #17143 on: May 05, 2016, 10:07:52 PM »
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« Reply #17144 on: May 05, 2016, 11:59:16 PM »
Arnold sounds like a close-talker, but germaphobe OP sounds like a handful, too.

What is it about IT that attracts weirdos?

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« Reply #17145 on: May 06, 2016, 12:06:38 AM »
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Assistant. You can see why, try hard.

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« Reply #17146 on: May 06, 2016, 12:08:08 AM »
Help, GAF! My co-worker glanced briefly at my sandwich and now I live in fear of the eye-germs that may have invaded my meal!
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« Reply #17149 on: May 06, 2016, 01:11:16 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202697895&postcount=603
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Next week, on NeoGAF:

Coworker complimented my girlfriend. I kidnapped his family. Am I being unfair?

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« Reply #17150 on: May 06, 2016, 01:30:03 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202712035&postcount=160
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Also use your webbrowser in a VM or sandbox.

Sandboxie is a great little tool and it's free for home use. Keeps your web browser in a sandbox so even if you visit wonky sites with ads that want to get on your harddrive or in your registry the program will block it.

okay, i think we're going a little overboard for most situations here

i haven't even had a real security breach on anything personal in probably at least 15 years (the university's e-mail system being compromised WAS NOT MY FAULT SRSLY)

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« Reply #17151 on: May 06, 2016, 01:42:37 AM »
benji, unlike us your average lolicon consuming GAFer likes to think that they won't get on a watch list if they go to all these elaborate lengths to hide their online identity. We just accept that being denied access to a security clearance because we read the lunatic fringe for entertainment is the cost of doing business with the state and its monopoly on violence.  :success

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« Reply #17152 on: May 06, 2016, 01:53:26 AM »
I suppose it is freeing to know the world is a horrible violent place and there's nothing you can do about it because you don't matter so you just give in and find your safe space in the cogs of the Yum! Brands corporatocracy.
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« Reply #17153 on: May 06, 2016, 01:59:23 AM »
benji, unlike us your average lolicon consuming GAFer likes to think that they won't get on a watch list if they go to all these elaborate lengths to hide their online identity. We just accept that being denied access to a security clearance because we read the lunatic fringe for entertainment is the cost of doing business with the state and its monopoly on violence.  :success

Just wanted to bounce in and give you a shout out, Kara. Good to have ya back bro.
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« Reply #17154 on: May 06, 2016, 02:03:35 AM »
Speaking of our cyberpunk dystopia, I was reading some Shadowrun lore the other day and had to chuckle at the fact that Chrysler was imagined as being somewhat relevant still that far in the future, and after an apocalyptic event.

e: And for Kosma, it's a subsidiary of Sony.

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« Reply #17155 on: May 06, 2016, 02:05:32 AM »
I suppose it is freeing to know the world is a horrible violent place and there's nothing you can do about it because you don't matter so you just give in and find your safe space in the cogs of the Yum! Brands corporatocracy.

This dude I used to work with was convinced at one point that the only reason women were going out with him was because they were CIA agents keeping tabs on him. Him being an unemployed mid 30s game designer who didn't even have his own apartment.

Paranoia and Narcissism are an awful combination.
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« Reply #17156 on: May 06, 2016, 02:06:18 AM »
Just wanted to bounce in and give you a shout out, Kara. Good to have ya back bro.

Thanks AiA, I've missed y'all too. :-[

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« Reply #17157 on: May 06, 2016, 02:59:34 AM »
From Batman v Superman vs. Civil War thread, re: BvS:
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Yep. My favourite film of the year so far flawed as it may be. There are so many literary allusions and symbolism in the film we haven't even discovered yet. Will be looked upon in future as a unique film in genre.

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« Reply #17158 on: May 06, 2016, 03:39:50 AM »
Speaking of our cyberpunk dystopia, I was reading some Shadowrun lore the other day and had to chuckle at the fact that Chrysler was imagined as being somewhat relevant still that far in the future, and after an apocalyptic event.

e: And for Kosma, it's a subsidiary of Sony.

You got it twisted

Maybe the future is so bleak that Chrysler stayed relevant

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« Reply #17159 on: May 06, 2016, 03:46:29 AM »
Remember when Snyder made about a billion hamfisted allusions to Superman being just like Jesus?  What a god damn visionary, that Zack Snyder.  Truly an artistic colossus

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