The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.

[zomgee]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216656263&postcount=1223

jeff rigby

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216659119&postcount=1255

 

He's as good at being an Internet Doctor as he is at being a console tech.

[archie4208]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216656263&postcount=1223

jeff rigby

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216659119&postcount=1255

 

WAKE UP SHEEPLE

[helios]

The Birth of a Nation thread took a bad turn 

[VomKriege]

If you absolutely must see a film by a rapist, at least go see something good like Chinatown.



But how does the director eats Pho soup ?

[Momo]

Is neogaf now banning people for saying a person is sick?

[zomgee]

Do not insult the queen.

[seagrams hotsauce]

he's less pointing out that she's sick and more implying she's gonna die lol

[nudemacusers]

Yo that birth of a nation thread is indeed amazing

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=216673353

"For those unaware there have been Penn State alumni that have come out in support of Nate Parker and the writer Jean McGianni Celestin"

Damn dropping the penn st alumni defense card. Debate over.

 

[Rufus]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216656263&postcount=1223

jeff rigby

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216659119&postcount=1255

 

This guy doesn't seem stupid, yet he fails to recognize the wrong turns he's taking. I understand ignorance begetting ignorance, but people like him always trip me up.

[Jansen]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216657483&postcount=341

Having sex with an extremely drunk person is not rape, it happens all the time.  If she consented then it's fine.  Inviting somebody else to join isn't necessarily rape either, but now you've put yourself in a very compromising position as they found out.  I'm not saying a rape did or didn't occur, I have no idea, but I think it's safe to say that at best Nate Parker took advantage of the situation, and at worst he gang raped her.

 

[zomgee]

Running a train is juuuust fine.

[Vertigo]

Not stepping anywhere near that 'Birth of a nation' thread.

I love that Jeff Rigby survived posting bullshit for multiple years but it's a non gaming post that finally gets him banned.

[FStop7]

Last Guardian delayed til Dec 6 = no Black Friday = sent to die.

[kick51]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1277451

guys i checked out North Korea, everything is fine!  I didn't see any death camps and all the people were really happy!  They live a very frugal life there and most people just wear blank expressions or smile!  It's their government that's completely crazy. I'm not gonna even attempt to connect those 2 facts I just listed!  Now check out these pics that everyone else also took on their visits, complete with the struggle banquet.

[Vertigo]

Last Guardian delayed til Dec 6 = no Black Friday = sent to die.

I find it hard to process when this game was first shown and it still isn't out.

Also it looks graphically garbage. Sony should have just pulled the plug on it when they had the chance. They had gamer 'goodwill'. As MS was the villain, now though? Good luck.   

[VomKriege]

To be fair, we all tend to trust and generalize our anecdotal first hand experiences... But stuff like

If you're wondering if our hotel rooms were bugged, yes, they were. However, we were told they really only bug them for diplomats and important people and probably don't even have them turned on for us.

[zomgee]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1277451

guys i checked out North Korea, everything is fine!  I didn't see any death camps and all the people were really happy!  They live a very frugal life there and most people just wear blank expressions or smile!  It's their government that's completely crazy. I'm not gonna even attempt to connect those 2 facts I just listed!  Now check out these pics that everyone else also took on their visits, complete with the struggle banquet.

No kidding, I was scrolling through and thinking here comes the dinner, here comes the captured boat, same dumb locations.

You go to Disneyland, you don't see the performers smoking backstage. There's a reason for  that.

[Great Rumbler]

These North Korea tours aren't really representative of what the country's actually like, though, since they steer you very far away from the stuff they don't want you to see.

Edit: Yeah, the Disneyland comparison nails it.

[benjipwns]

he's less pointing out that she's sick and more implying she's gonna die lol

well, i mean, she is going to eventually

at least in theory

[doctavius bonbon]

So surreal

Great food

Beautiful well mannered people

Truman Show

Obligatory comment about empty storefronts.

Every NK thread ever

[benjipwns]

The average life of a North Korean is a lot of hard work. They get free housing, free education, and everyone has a job, but in return they have to work 6-7 days a week and get paid very little. Enough to buy some supplies and food but the government gives them food and rations as well. They also get tokens for 5 liters of free beer each month at certain pubs and bars.

What you don't realize is just how stupid it was what he did. You're clearly told "Do not go to level 5". In fact, there isn't even a 5 on the elevator. You can also buy posters at almost every gift shop for pretty cheap including the two in the hotel so there's literally no reason to try and steal one. The idea someone would do what he is is almost unimaginable. The sad part is other people have screwed up pretty big but the tour guides have fixed it. Normally the person and guide both write an apology letter and the visitor is sent home. It's embarrassing but you leave safely. This guy didn't tell anyone and the guides only found out at customs when he was arrested. The company got a ton of death threats and hate mail though when you're with them you realize they will do everything in their power to keep you safe and have fun.

I can't claim I know every part of the country but I saw as much as any westerner will ever get to see for a long time.

Worth seeing for yourself is things are as bad as they say and what it's like.

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216682945&postcount=99
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216683938&postcount=132
 

[Joe Molotov]

On one final note I did find out one more thing while I was over there. Kim Jong Un is a Sonic the Headgehog fan.

Explains everything, tbh.

[Great Rumbler]

Guys I went on a tour of North Korea now I'm an expert it's actually not as bad as people say.

[Jansen]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216683478&postcount=686

pls have a dyack meltdown

[Vertigo]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216683478&postcount=686

pls have a dyack meltdown

Eesshh not a good look at all. I guess this is the opposite of Hello Games and Sean Murray, Who aren't saying enough Vs this guy who's saying too much.

[benjipwns]

I wonder why the tour didn't stop by Peace Village while they were out near the border.

[Jansen]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216684144

shidoshi going full distinguished mentally-challenged fellow

[FStop7]

I'd go in a hot second if I had the chance. Easily the country I most want to visit, because it really does have to be such a surreal experience.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216681216&postcount=66 

Why am I unsurprised that the average GAFfer's dream vacation is North Fucking Korea.

[stufte]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216681216&postcount=66 

Why am I unsurprised that the average GAFfer's dream vacation is North Fucking Korea.

I'd visit. I find the fuckery of that place utterly fascinating. Though realistically, I don't want to end up in a hard labor camp for the rest of my days because I took the wrong picture.

[Rufus]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216683478&postcount=686

pls have a dyack meltdown

I watched Giant Bomb's Quick Look on their game. This guy doesn't know how out of touch he is and that he's made a very niche game. It looks like something Ice-Pick Lodge would make.

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216683478&postcount=686

pls have a dyack meltdown

I watched Giant Bomb's Quick Look on their game. This guy doesn't know how out of touch he is and that he's made a very niche game. It looks like something Ice-Pick Lodge would make.

I watched Jim Sterling play it. Looked like it had about 10 minutes worth of fun in it.

[benjipwns]

it's so surreal that these people are slaves imprisoned in their own country but yet they're so nice to me and my state backed tour group and honestly enjoy our company

and it's so funny how they bug my motel room, but it's okay, we probably won't say or do anything worth being murdered for like taking a poster

next year i hope to swing by cambodia to see the killing fields, i'm keen on getting that full year zero experience and beating in the skulls of some doctors

[doctavius bonbon]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216682492&postcount=83

I'd actually like to see a trip to Boko Haram / ISIS held territory thread in the same vein as one of these tired ass NK travelogues.

[FStop7]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216681216&postcount=66 

Why am I unsurprised that the average GAFfer's dream vacation is North Fucking Korea.

I'd visit. I find the fuckery of that place utterly fascinating. Though realistically, I don't want to end up in a hard labor camp for the rest of my days because I took the wrong picture.

I get the interest but every photo essay I've seen has been of the same tightly controlled set of locations.  That's even brought up in the thread.  There's nothing real to be seen.  And the requirement of giving up your passport to North Korean state officials is batshit insane, especially when there are no diplomatic relations with most other countries.

On the other hand, I'd visit Iran.  I think there's enough room for actual cultural exchanges and interaction with real people, unlike that fat piece of shit's human puppet show.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216682492&postcount=83

I'd actually like to see a trip to Boko Haram / ISIS held territory thread in the same vein of one of these tired ass NK travelogues.

There's a French documentary in which the filmmakers posed as jihadists and got hidden cameras into gatherings of Al Qaeda associated religious leaders.  There's an incident when an Afghani warlord's minions are casually discussing whether or not they're going to murder the dudes as they're driving them out to see the ruins of Tora Bora.

[benjipwns]

I watched Giant Bomb's Quick Look on their game. This guy doesn't know how out of touch he is and that he's made a very niche game. It looks like something Ice-Pick Lodge would make.

I watched Jim Sterling play it. Looked like it had about 10 minutes worth of fun in it.

It's disheartening when five years of hard work polishing and creating something new is reduced to a throw-away "4/10", I mean, that's a fucking ridiculous score that degrades a unique and beautiful experience.

[railGUN]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1229205&page=21

[demi]

I played "The Tomorrow Children" at E3 (2015?) and I had ZERO idea what I was doing, or if there was any point or goal. It's no surprise this game is getting shit on.

[Vertigo]

Today's episode of 'I'm a gaffer, how do I function normally in the real world?'

You're sitting in a public space and someone comes up to you and says...

"Hey, will you watch my stuff?," and then proceeds to try to leave their personal belongings with you. What do you say to them?...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1277481

Bonus

Hell no, I only do that for people that I trust.

Who knows if there's a bomb there or something even worse.

[benjipwns]

On the other hand, I'd visit Iran.  I think there's enough room for actual cultural exchanges and interaction with real people, unlike that fat piece of shit's human puppet show.

Iran's not a totalitarian fuckhole. I mean sure, it's an authoritarian theocratic faux-democracy but they like to make money. It's got actual regular ol tourism, not smuggle you in through China and show you the same tour as everyone tourism. Even Americans can come in for like a month or something for traveling.

I mean, as long as you're a male.

[benjipwns]

Bonus

Hell no, I only do that for people that I trust.

Who knows if there's a bomb there or something even worse.

"oh god, it's the new call of duty, and for xbox"

[zomgee]

you realize they will do everything in their power to keep you safe and have fun.

And we'll have
Fun, fun, fun,
'Til Kim Jong Un
Takes your family awaaaay

[Vertigo]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1229205&page=21

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Thanks to the Borean who mentioned Purify a few weeks ago.  Browsing Gaf without those new shitty ad's is 

Why did EL change it up?(apart from making more money)  the ads before were there but non intrusive on mobile for the most part.

[zomgee]

Because of thieves like YOU

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216683478&postcount=686

pls have a dyack meltdown

I watched Giant Bomb's Quick Look on their game. This guy doesn't know how out of touch he is and that he's made a very niche game. It looks like something Ice-Pick Lodge would make.

I watched Jim Sterling play it. Looked like it had about 10 minutes worth of fun in it.

It's almost guaranteed he will have a meltdown. He tried to casually discredit several reviews now and it's obvious he won't cool down and take a step back. Will probably be triggered by a couple of middling "unfair" reviews.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216681216&postcount=66 

Why am I unsurprised that the average GAFfer's dream vacation is North Fucking Korea.

I'd visit. I find the fuckery of that place utterly fascinating. Though realistically, I don't want to end up in a hard labor camp for the rest of my days because I took the wrong picture.

Yeah, I'm not sure I agree with the moral stonewalling as expressed on GAF. There's a ton of tourism money propping up varying degrees of unsavory regimes (notably and before it all went into the crapper North Africa and the Near East with all of the magnificent ruins and historical sites) that do not elicit such an immediate & automatic reaction.

On the other hand, promoting the regime is rarely the focus (or sole goal) here and most of those countries abide to the basic tenets of diplomatic relations. That definitely sets NK apart, and it maybe makes it objectively "worse".

[kick51]

You have to have full faith in the tour group. It's scary but I also visited Detroit on my USA trip right before Asia and that's far scarier!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216687648&postcount=208

this guy just makes terrible choices about where to vacation.   

[Jansen]

just make sure you dont have a desirable skillset when touring nk

[VomKriege]

just make sure you dont have a desirable skillset when touring nk

Come on now.
Abducting unsuspecting foreigners is much more low profile.

[kick51]

I don't think the money they get from tourism is all that significant, so that whole "good job supporting NK" thing sounds a bit dumb.  It's the details and disconnected opinions.  "I know it's a messed up place, but the farmland we saw was just beautiful and well maintained."   Just seems like the guy knows facts about NK but doesn't understand how those facts shape reality.  Otherwise, he wouldn't be impressed by anything he saw or did there.

[benjipwns]

There are all sorts of shit regimes but if you're a Westerner spending money and not getting into shit then you can travel in places like China or Iran or Vietnam or Singapore or whatever and interact for the most part like a normal tourist in more free nations.

But these smuggling trips exist basically to serve as propaganda for the North Korean state. Even Cuba and Laos aren't as try hard about managing their image anymore.

[zomgee]

smuggling trips

I never thought of it that way - they are basically holding you against your will while you are there, but you're calling it a vacation and paying for it.

[benjipwns]

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[kick51]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216692022&postcount=272


oh fuck im done 

[zomgee]

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Lookitall dat juche

[Brehvolution]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1229205&page=21

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216539484&postcount=1010

 

Then how did you post?

[doctavius bonbon]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216696181&postcount=321

lmao

[Great Rumbler]

Visit a brutal dictatorship through government-sponsored tour and buy into the propaganda hook, line, and sinker, brehs.

[helios]

The camps don't exist. I mean, sure we spoke about the camps in NK, discussed them with the guide and the morality of it,

[doctavius bonbon]

this fukken thread rules

[Raist]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216696181&postcount=321

lmao

...

Before you read, I understand not all of you will agree with someone visiting this country for moral reasons.

... I thought it was another post about NK... Poland? What?

one of the most isolated, strange, and controversial extermination camps in all the world.

... what?

WHAT AM I READING