Author Topic: MGSV thread of there's a game coming out. (Read 122070 times)

Positive Touch · « **Reply #180 on:** September 01, 2015, 03:15:03 PM »

ughhhh

demi · « **Reply #181 on:** September 01, 2015, 03:23:18 PM »

I decided to let Muckhole generously buy this for me, I must join in the festivities of vagina bombs

toku · « **Reply #182 on:** September 01, 2015, 03:29:15 PM »

Quote from: demi on September 01, 2015, 03:23:18 PM

I decided to let Muckhole generously buy this for me, I must join in the festivities of vagina bombs

#rippazthx4theshrapnel

Himu · « **Reply #183 on:** September 01, 2015, 04:17:27 PM »

Quote from: WRATH VICE™ on September 01, 2015, 03:04:11 PM

Quote from: Positive Touch on September 01, 2015, 02:25:48 PM
ie the opening something you'll be able to skip thru easily on replays?

You can skip the cut scenes, but not some "gameplay" parts.

I know cause I watched my brother play it first, and then when I did my save I skipped everything I could. Shaved off like 35 minutes but it was still around 20 minutes of nothing.

I don't mind this because going by Ground Zeroes, the game is way too long to speed run in a normal metal gear manner. Instead speed runs will be about S-ranking each mission and finishing them as fast you can now. Are all missions ranked like GZ? Can I go for S-ranks?

Positive you shouldn't worry about it. The missions come on a drop down, and you can replay them any time, as far as I know.

toku · « **Reply #184 on:** September 01, 2015, 04:29:11 PM »

I haven't got one yet but the missions are definitely ranked. Best score so far for me is A.

demi · « **Reply #185 on:** September 01, 2015, 04:34:57 PM »

There are achievements for getting S ranks on every mission

Himu · « **Reply #186 on:** September 01, 2015, 04:35:56 PM »

So the missions ARE replayable like in GZ. Yeah, it's fine.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #187 on:** September 01, 2015, 04:52:58 PM »

ok that sounds fine. and judging by wraths other comment about skipping chapters, it sounds like it might be possible to find clever routes to speedrun the entire game. we'll see.

mormapope · « **Reply #188 on:** September 01, 2015, 05:29:12 PM »

Playing the 360 version.

The Prologue is long winded but its like 30-40 minutes, after that there's almost no training wheels for gameplay stuff besides the really quick motherbase tutorial after rescuing Kaz. Gameplay wise after the prologue, this shit is pretty dope. A lot of people moaned about this not having MGS styled gameplay, but the main missions and free roam stuff feels like constant infiltration, you feel like an agent on the move constantly and getting shit done. You're doing shit Big Boss and Solid Snake would do outside their known story beats.

People have criticized the open world aspects being too empty, but the extra space helps with planning tenfold. You're able to peruse the perimeter without getting your ass hounded by apeshit guards. And I don't feel like traversal is that much of a chore compared to a other open world games, the open world itself isn't that large either. Big and spacious when it comes to stealthing around, but not so big that it feels like you're doing nothing for long periods of time.

I believe any main missions can be replayed after you first complete them. Side ops can't be replayed. Missions are meant to be replayed to get higher grades, you barely have any equipment at the start of the game. I'm playing with most visual aides off and reflex mode off, not killing dudes, getting B on the main missions thus far.

In short, a pretty dope game with a long winded intro but shit opens up quick.

The Legend of Sunblade · « **Reply #189 on:** September 01, 2015, 07:21:24 PM »

Not gonna lie, its pretty intimidating. I forget that supply drops are a thing half the time and run around without a tranq suppressor way more often that I should.

demi · « **Reply #190 on:** September 01, 2015, 07:23:28 PM »

This game has a 2-3 week wait on amazon... well i guess muckhole can preorder me something else instead

thisismyusername · « **Reply #191 on:** September 01, 2015, 08:36:49 PM »

Quote from: demi on September 01, 2015, 07:23:28 PM

This game has a 2-3 week wait on amazon... well i guess muckhole can preorder me something else instead

He can pre-order your dick in his ass while you wait.

mormapope · « **Reply #192 on:** September 01, 2015, 10:15:37 PM »

Just got a S rank on a main mission by ordering the helicopter pilot to land right on top of the objectives and then destroying the objectives with a minigun while murdering a bunch of dudes at the camp.

Being allowed to murder dudes and still get high grades to due a really fast clear time is satisfying.

The Legend of Sunblade · « **Reply #193 on:** September 01, 2015, 10:19:48 PM »

Mods Help · « **Reply #194 on:** September 01, 2015, 10:20:53 PM »

Yeah, I felt the same with GZ. It's the first time since MGS1 where I kill guys willingly but only because I have to sometimes. The extraction mission is easy when killing them, for instance. But when I extract them it makes me feel like a bad gamer, so I end up killing them anyways.

So far in V, the AI is so ruthless that I'm killing them because I feel like I need to in order to succeed.

mormapope · « **Reply #195 on:** September 01, 2015, 10:59:42 PM »

Playing MGS V without markers or enemies being marked makes shit a lot more tense. Amount of challenge is perfect, and the rate you unlock stuff is paced well.

mormapope · « **Reply #196 on:** September 01, 2015, 11:02:52 PM »

Also, I've probably put around four hours into the game since the prologue and there have been around 10-20 minutes of cutscenes. Showing how Big Boss builds motherbase up with actual gameplay rather than direct exposition is refreshing to say the least. Kiefer is a pretty decent voice actor, comes of as being natural.

Big Boss talks a lot less in cutscenes, which I would view as neither a positive or negative.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #197 on:** September 02, 2015, 12:00:38 AM »

I am totally ok with Jack Bauer voicing Snake, the other guy was so gravelly and ridiculous I couldn't take it seriously

CRAB BATTLE

tiesto · « **Reply #198 on:** September 02, 2015, 12:09:10 AM »

Only played past the intro and to the part where you unlock the base... game seems extremely complicated so far (I haven't played PW and only played a bit of Ground Zeroes) but still really cool. The controls are pretty smooth (though I hate holding down on the analog stick to run), graphics are stunning... will have to play some more to see how things go.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #199 on:** September 02, 2015, 12:30:26 AM »

Quote from: tiesto on September 02, 2015, 12:09:10 AM

Only played past the intro and to the part where you unlock the base... game seems extremely complicated so far (I haven't played PW and only played a bit of Ground Zeroes) but still really cool. The controls are pretty smooth (though I hate holding down on the analog stick to run), graphics are stunning... will have to play some more to see how things go.

Uh... it's click to sprint. You don't ever have to hold it to sprint.

(Nor should you really be sprinting anyway outside of open areas, and even then you should have Diamond Horse right now for covering those distances)

My problem right now is finding minerals/materials to increase Mother Base. I hope getting the Spy/Intel team will fix this and the flower hunting because those could get annoying really fast having to go around the entire map to find non-depleted areas until the ones you already took respawn. >:|

toku · « **Reply #200 on:** September 02, 2015, 01:43:12 AM »

Kaz sounds like he's about to cry on the Origin of Diamond Dogs tape. Staying loyal to something indeed bro :'(

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #201 on:** September 02, 2015, 02:13:04 AM »

Played through the prologue. Yep, it's a Kojima game.

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i kept thinking that it would've been cool if the psycho mantis and fiery Volgin dudes were actually there to rescue you.

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toku · « **Reply #202 on:** September 02, 2015, 02:52:54 AM »

Cool feeling pulling a prisoner out on your back in a fairly big base camp in broad daylight with no alerts.

VomKriege · « **Reply #203 on:** September 02, 2015, 02:57:57 AM »

What about the grind ? There's definitely options that have a mandatory paywall (every FOB beyond the first). Is someone far enough to see how bad the farming get ?

mormapope · « **Reply #204 on:** September 02, 2015, 04:54:34 AM »

Quote from: VomKriege on September 02, 2015, 02:57:57 AM

What about the grind ? There's definitely options that have a mandatory paywall (every FOB beyond the first). Is someone far enough to see how bad the farming get ?

Single player seems good when it comes to unlock pacing. You'll probably have to grind to max level gear, but that's the case for most games with RPG elements.

For example, by the 10th story mission you'd earn 150,000 GMP per mission. Besides story missions, there's side ops that are netting me 80,000 points on completion. Level 2 & 3 gear ranges from 80,000 GMP to 120,000 GMP, there are six tiers of gear. Tons of diamonds laying everywhere in the game, which will usually net you 10,000 GMP or 100,000 GMP per diamond.

I've had around 300,000 - 800,000 GMP for the past few hours. You have to find resources as well, but if you comb all the areas you go through, resources shouldn't be a problem either.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #205 on:** September 02, 2015, 11:03:21 AM »

Yeah, going through the bases for Materials help. GMP is so easy to get that people worrying about grind are overblowing it a little. You can interrogate enemies for diamonds that'll jump GMP. Or fulton them, animals, and (once you get the upgrades) equipment to sell for GMP as well. It's really the Materials that'll be the frustrating bit while you upgrade your "material increased on gain" support ability to jump that up.

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #206 on:** September 02, 2015, 04:04:35 PM »

Game seems ok so far. The open world seems pretty pointless though. The episode structure is kind of stupid and just makes everything feel disjointed. Feels like the missions won't be anything special and I already hate the PW infused bullshit of R&D weapon leveling. Hopefully the next Metal Gear just does away with that bullshit.

demi · « **Reply #207 on:** September 02, 2015, 04:16:51 PM »

he thinks theres gonna be a new metal gear

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #208 on:** September 02, 2015, 04:22:49 PM »

There will be. They already have said they started staffing up for it. It probably wont be as big or grand as this one and it won't be by Kojima, but that's a positive in my book. Kojima hasn't made a good MGS since 3.

mormapope · « **Reply #209 on:** September 02, 2015, 06:17:18 PM »

Silent Hill and Castlevania sure ended up peachy when older creative talent left or weren't allowed to work on what they wanted to work on.

This game fucking rocks. Kojima and his team made a MGS game revolving only around gameplay just about. Feels like MGS universe lore combined with Hitman mission freedom, with entirely new gameplay mechanics for the stealth genre.

MGSV is the best game Kojima has worked on. Does it have the best MGS story and awesome trappings? No. Is it a blast to play for hours on end? Yup.

archie4208 · « **Reply #210 on:** September 02, 2015, 06:18:58 PM »

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I beat Quiet and spent the next 15 minutes listening to crappy 80s music in her cell.

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GOTY

toku · « **Reply #211 on:** September 02, 2015, 06:57:28 PM »

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Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #212 on:** September 02, 2015, 07:32:33 PM »

MGSV. The MGS for people who don't actually like MGS.

archie4208 · « **Reply #213 on:** September 02, 2015, 07:38:53 PM »

You say that like it's a bad thing.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #214 on:** September 02, 2015, 07:44:34 PM »

Quote from: Rahxephon91 on September 02, 2015, 07:32:33 PM

MGSV. The MGS for people who don't actually like MGS.

MGS5: The MGS for people that like MGS and hate bullshit cutscene lengths, more like.

MGS3 > MGS1 > MGS5 > MGS:PW >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MGS2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taking a dump > MGS4

toku · « **Reply #215 on:** September 02, 2015, 08:19:34 PM »

Quote from: Rahxephon91 on September 02, 2015, 07:32:33 PM

MGSV. The MGS for people who don't actually like MGS.

mormapope · « **Reply #216 on:** September 02, 2015, 08:21:20 PM »

If I had to rank all the games including MGS V

1. MGS2
2. MGS V
3. MGS3
4. MGS1
5. Ground Zeroes
6. Peace Walker
7. Metal Gear 2
8. Metal Gear 1
999. MGS4

MGS1 is still an awesome game, but the stealth parts of the game have almost no depth. MGS1 is essentially the best boss rush mode extended into a rad as fuck melodramatic military thriller. MGS2 has my favorite storytelling, themes, and dialog in the series, however it has awkward as fuck writing and fucked pacing. Still my favorite in the series though. The gameplay additions from MGS1 to MGS2 were pretty significant as well.

MGS3 is the goofiest game in the series. Subsistence's new camera made the game a lot more enjoyable versus the original release. Some of the best boss fights in the series with the dumbest boss designs in the franchise. Volgin being such a shitbag made him a fun villain. Great additions to stealthing around. MGS3 in general is a really fun game in spirit, pacing towards the end is phenomenal.

MGS V has made open world/sandbox games feel new again. This doesn't follow the GTA3 formula whatsoever, whereas almost every open world game ever revolves around going to a mission marker, being given tools to use for very specific circumstances, rinse and repeat.

mormapope · « **Reply #217 on:** September 02, 2015, 08:30:33 PM »

Quote from: Rahxephon91 on September 02, 2015, 07:32:33 PM

MGSV. The MGS for people who don't actually like MGS.

If that's the case, this is an excellent game with some of the best design and mechanical decisions made for open world games and stealth games. If micromanaging for two to five minutes spurts after running around and doing shit for an hour bothers you, and is enough to tank the game when it comes to gameplay, that's pretty petty.

If you wanted a typical revenge story that has six hours of cutscenes, then I guess that would be more legitimate.

mormapope · « **Reply #218 on:** September 02, 2015, 08:32:23 PM »

A legit problem with the game is ambiguous checkpointing. I've had to redo shit that I wasn't expecting to redo because of reloading a checkpoint.

toku · « **Reply #219 on:** September 02, 2015, 10:26:45 PM »

Revengeance has 10-15 min long codec conversations. It's a metal gear game.

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #220 on:** September 02, 2015, 10:53:34 PM »

MGS3/MGS2
MGS1
Reveangence

MGS5

Trash

Portable Ops

POS

4 and PW

My rankings.

mormapope · « **Reply #221 on:** September 02, 2015, 11:22:51 PM »

When it comes to GMP, you have to really fuck up hard to be broke or to go into the red. I'm sitting on 900,000 GMP after doing all the side ops that come my way, I've completed around 11 story missions. Multiple groups (R&D, support, intel, ect.) are at 2/4 bases built at motherbase.

Just completed a mission where I rode on horseback with a rocket launcher blowing up APCs with this blasting

The Legend of Sunblade · « **Reply #222 on:** September 03, 2015, 12:08:25 AM »

I love doing side ops cause i try my absolute best to keep kills at 0 while doing the main ops, but since you aren't scored on side ops i can just unleash my inner rambo and headshot every fucker in my path (after checking to see what their stats are).

I love using explosives in this game. Even just putting C4 on a random harmless thing just to blow it up later and make every guard go check it out and leave me alone is a good use of an explosion, and it doesn't count as an alert like it would in previous games.

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #223 on:** September 03, 2015, 05:01:51 AM »

Quote from: mormapope on September 02, 2015, 08:30:33 PM

Quote from: Rahxephon91 on September 02, 2015, 07:32:33 PM
MGSV. The MGS for people who don't actually like MGS.

If that's the case, this is an excellent game with some of the best design and mechanical decisions made for open world games and stealth games. If micromanaging for two to five minutes spurts after running around and doing shit for an hour bothers you, and is enough to tank the game when it comes to gameplay, that's pretty petty.

If you wanted a typical revenge story that has six hours of cutscenes, then I guess that would be more legitimate.

Well yes I wanted an actual Metal Gear game with fun characters and engaging story.

Here for instance the boss battles are pretty boring. No memorable characters or real intersting ideas in them.

The story feels nonexistent and pointless at that. This is like the one Metal Gear game where I feel like nothing is happening and the one actual twist is one of the worst in there series. Even the garbage in MGS4 felt actually eventful.

You call it petty, but I find disliking the entire Mother Base stuff to be pretty logical. it's boring, tedious, and encourages repetitive and unimaginative gameplay. It's even worse here than in PW because now I have more resources I have to grind just so I can develop fucking anti shake pills for my Sniper Rifle. Past MGS would just give me that when I actually needed it, not this guessing game that this one offers.

This is a terrible open world game. The open world is so pointless. I'm not sure why this game is open world. The episode strucutre and constant return to MB disconects the open world to me. I see no reason to explore it and because of how you deploy my focus just becomes on the area of the mission. A linear game with open levels like say Hitman could have achieved the same thing. All the open world does is create tedious land to wade through. I also feel in the end the missions all play out the same and the game is missing amazing variety in senerio design and set pieces because of it. A linear MGS would not lack those.

I just don't like this game and hate how my favorite series has gone to crap with this game not bunking that trend.

mormapope · « **Reply #224 on:** September 03, 2015, 06:42:53 AM »

I found your PSN profile since its the same as your username, and you completed the prologue and took over an outpost right after the prologue based on trophies. Sounds like you're complaining about things you haven't reached or done yet

I was assuming you were sorta full of shit based on your boss battle point (since boss fights are spread sparingly throughout this game, which is around 30-40 hours long). Wasn't really looking for a gotcha moment, just wanted to see if your criticism was legit or not.

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #225 on:** September 03, 2015, 06:57:55 AM »

I've watched all of the boss battles and all of them look terrible, plus none of them are actual talking characters.

No I probably won't be playing 30 plus hours of it since the first 5 hours is already as terrible as PW.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #226 on:** September 03, 2015, 09:23:06 AM »

In this thread: Rah whines while the rest of us enjoy the game.

What else is new? Don't even bother engaging him, Morma.

Quote from: mormapope on September 03, 2015, 06:42:53 AM

(since boss fights are spread sparingly throughout this game, which is around 30-40 hours long).

Is it? I'm taking my time and just finished the 6th mission at like 12 hours.

:'( Doing side-ops and upgrading things before tackling the main missions feel good. You can get some really powerful stuff.

demi · « **Reply #227 on:** September 03, 2015, 09:48:32 AM »

Metal Gear Ghost Babel > Metal Gear Acid > Metal Gear Acid 2 > all the rest who cares

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #228 on:** September 03, 2015, 11:43:03 AM »

Quote from: thisismyusername on September 03, 2015, 09:23:06 AM

In this thread: Rah whines while the rest of us enjoy the game.

What else is new? Don't even bother engaging him, Morma.

Its like the opposite of every other bore related video game thread then. Where I actually enjoy games while everyone hates on them cynically!

But you like PW so you're clearly open to this game's crap.

But yes I'm sorry for intrupting the GAFesque circle jerk. I thought this forum was supposed to be better about dissenting opinions. Guess not.

nachobro · « **Reply #229 on:** September 03, 2015, 12:55:19 PM »

How do you set a song for your helicopter to play when it comes in? I got the speaker but not sure what to do next.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #230 on:** September 03, 2015, 12:55:40 PM »

Quote from: mormapope on September 02, 2015, 08:32:23 PM

A legit problem with the game is ambiguous checkpointing. I've had to redo shit that I wasn't expecting to redo because of reloading a checkpoint.

This is annoying as fuck. I wish the game would just let you save on your own.

mormapope · « **Reply #231 on:** September 03, 2015, 01:12:39 PM »

Quote from: nachobro on September 03, 2015, 12:55:19 PM

How do you set a song for your helicopter to play when it comes in? I got the speaker but not sure what to do next.

When you go into cassettes and select any music, there should be a prompt for it to be used on a helicopter. So hover over the song you want and the prompt should be on the bottom of the screen.

You can also set a song or a list of songs to repeat during gameplay by pressing right trigger while something is playing and going through the walkman settings.

mormapope · « **Reply #232 on:** September 03, 2015, 02:09:59 PM »

I'm on episode 14 now, Africa feels a lot different than Afghanistan.

nachobro · « **Reply #233 on:** September 03, 2015, 03:27:23 PM »

racist

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #234 on:** September 03, 2015, 05:16:04 PM »

Don't own the game and haven't played it yet so I have no real comments.

One funny thing I've noticed either via youtube or twitch is that a lot of casuals have picked up the game because of the hype or prestige and they are struggling and sucking and hating the game.

That says nothing about the quality of the game. I just find it funny when casuals get themselves into these situations.

toku · « **Reply #235 on:** September 03, 2015, 06:47:29 PM »

you get fultoned
you get fultoned
you get fultoned
you get fultoned
you get fultoned
you get fultoned

thisismyusername · « **Reply #236 on:** September 03, 2015, 07:27:29 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on September 03, 2015, 05:16:04 PM

One funny thing I've noticed either via youtube or twitch is that a lot of casuals have picked up the game because of the hype or prestige and they are struggling and sucking and hating the game.

Everyone telling them "nahhhhh you don't really need to play the previous games" gets a

from me. There's a reason this is the "5th" of the main series.

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mormapope · « **Reply #237 on:** September 03, 2015, 10:44:39 PM »

Knew that my current mission ended with a skulls battle. I fultoned a few tanks earlier when doing side ops, decided to use a tank.

I destroyed all the APCs that were meant to protect the truck I had to steal. The transport truck was still in hiding an waiting for the APCs to escort the cargo. I raided an outpost with my tank and Quiet as my buddy, found intel that ended up being useless, Kaz said that himself. As of now, I have no clue what should happen or if I failed the mission.

The driver of the truck radios in and says his protection never showed up, a different guard gave him the go ahead and to proceed without protection.

The truck wasn't marked anywhere on my map. So I decided to send Quiet scouting at different places in the mission area. After she infiltrated almost every point in the mission area, I get lucky and she finally scouts out the truck. The truck was in the middle of the map, so I raced my tank ahead of it. The truck stopped at a heavily guarded outpost. I blew up a watchtower and the driver panicked and drove towards me.

The skulls pop out, I blast them with the tank and easily clear the battle. Got in the transport truck and exfiltrated out.

S rank.

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #238 on:** September 04, 2015, 12:30:20 AM »

Quote from: toku on September 01, 2015, 06:18:10 AM

what the fuck happened in the prologue

Some of that shit kinda dragged on. Like being a cripple.
Sure it makes sense but, I don't want to spend 20 minutes of watching my character struggle to stay conscious and ooze around on the floor.

Yeah, whole lotta wtf. Like floaty fucks motivation and the demon that reks helicopters but is bested by sprinklers.

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #239 on:** September 04, 2015, 01:10:57 AM »

That was your "boss" battle. Rocket a bunch of people as you dodge their sword slash. That was pretty boring. Can Kojima not create inventive boss battles anymore?

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Author Topic: MGSV thread of there's a game coming out. (Read 122070 times)