MGSV thread of there's a game coming out.

[thisismyusername]

Mission X is better than the entirety of MGS4; no hyperbole.

FTFY. You're welcome.

MGS4.

If you complete a side-ops mission, i.e. extract a prisoner... but then die before getting back to a safe point, do you still get the rescued prisoner in your base?

Like Toku said: If it said you extracted and you got the Yellow Rewards/GMP: Then yes. You can also see on the top-right that the Side Op is complete. That prisoner will count because the game auto-saves on Side Op/Main Op completion.

frags? Just use the iDroid, that's what I do and it's pretty easy.

He means the resupply flare which is like the helicopter flare: Useful if you're in a rush and busy fighting without needing to use the iDroid. I dunno if the resupply flare allows you to change weapons like the iDroid drop request does, but IIRC it'll resupply ammo and fultons like the iDroids "fulton/ammo" drop.

[toku]

[fistfulofmetal]

So this game is basically an expanded MGS: Peace Walker in terms of base building and research/upgrades? Also "open world" zones where you go around completing mini side missions like finding intel, rescuing people, etc? Then there's also main missions that move the story along? Also the story is subdued and BB doesn't speak much.

Is that a decent reduction of this game?

[archie4208]

Nail on head.

[VomKriege]

I'm only echoing the remarks of a gun nut acquaintance there but it seems somewhat valid: he is really let down by how few the game captures its setting material wise. Lots of fictional guns compared to previous entries and very futuristic hardware overall. MGS3 was great at that even though it took some liberties (the flying platforms or the M16 prototype were somewhat period accurate, the Hind was pretty egregious though). The setting of V is so science fictiony that it's not really consistent with the period or even with some of the other games. To be fair, given the whole ubiquitous New World Order the plot peddles since 2, the USA / USSR existence itself in this universe seems pretty meaningless.

Minor point but curious if someone had any opinion on that.

[thisismyusername]

I'm only echoing the remarks of a gun nut acquaintance there but it seems somewhat valid: he is really let down by how few the game captures its setting material wise. Lots of fictional guns compared to previous entries and very futuristic hardware overall. MGS3 was great at that even though it took some liberties (the flying platforms or the M16 prototype were somewhat period accurate, the Hind was pretty egregious though). The setting of V is so science fictiony that it's not really consistent with the period or even with some of the other games. To be fair, given the whole ubiquitous New World Order the plot peddles since 2, the USA / USSR existence itself in this universe seems pretty meaningless.

Minor point but curious if someone had any opinion on that.

He's right. I dunno if they let go of the weapon research team (which was a big deal in MGS4's development videos IIRC) or what, but yeah: with the iDroid and other science-fiction stuff, I guess Kojima was like "yeah making real guns is too much work and not worth it" or something. Disappointing, but not a huge deal.

I'm wanting to see if someone figures out the modding process for the PC version so /k/ommandos (or whatever the Reddit equiv. is) will mod in the real-guns actual names in the menus.

[VomKriege]

It strikes me as really weird coming from Kojipro as they previously exhibited the gun nuttiness you expect from your average otakus. People speculate it's either because Konami won't bother through the proper licensing*, Kojima had an ethical change of heart (Not impossible but I have a real hard time buying that) or because the level of customization they wanted to implement ingame was unrealistic with actual guns of that era.

Honestly apart the music tapes the game seems indeed really not to do a lot there. Ground Zeroes, between the Big Boss outfit and the whole pseudo Guantanamo setting felt like a pseudo-contemporary piece and not something taking place in 1974.

* I've always been really curious at how firearms licensing works because it has deep implications. I would expect it exists but as far I can remember I've never seen gun makers credited...

[thisismyusername]

* I've always been really curious at how firearms licensing works because it has deep implications. I would expect it exists but as far I can remember I've never seen gun makers credited...

They are in most FPS.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-01-shooters-how-video-games-fund-arms-manufacturers

[OnlyRegret]

No fucks were given long ago when pisswalker with its flying AI railgun bots released.
That was in the 70s, like 10 years before holographic ipods.

[The Legend of Sunblade]

Got to Africa, finally. Still enjoying the game tons, much more so now that I got D Dog and he just scouts locations for shit all around me.

If you haven't done so already, go to the medical platform and look around for a room with a blue light over the door. Completely stumbled upon that without the game making any hints about it being there.

[AdmiralViscen]

Make sure you do the Wandering Mother Base Soldier Side Op first

[tiesto]

Really enjoying the game but damn I am still terrible at it... seems half the time it's blind luck for me to survive. Right now I'm in Mission 12 but haven't been able to beat it.

Quick question, what's the whole deal about people on the base infighting?

[Mods Help]

Am I correct in firing staff that cause trouble at mb?

[thisismyusername]

Quick question, what's the whole deal about people on the base infighting?

Your morale is low. Go to Mother Base and wander around to raise it. Or send people on Combat Missions.

Am I correct in firing staff that cause trouble at mb?

Yes, if you want to save yourself from having employees killed by them.

[Mods Help]

Oh good. I always fire those fuckers.

Can you have any squad mates join you on missions or anything? I just leave them at MB and build me stuff.

[Purrp Skirrp]

This game overwhelms me

I skip all the cutscenes. Not even bothering with that bullshit.

Why can I read the steps/parts of the mission beforehand, but once the mission is underway these same steps/parts are hidden and displayed as "? ? ?"?

[thisismyusername]

Can you have any squad mates join you on missions or anything? I just leave them at MB and build me stuff.

No, but you can have them be in Big Bosses' deployment place if they're part of the combat unit.

[Mods Help]

Can you have any squad mates join you on missions or anything? I just leave them at MB and build me stuff.

No, but you can have them be in Big Bosses' deployment place if they're part of the combat unit.

Huh? You can play as them?

[thisismyusername]

Can you have any squad mates join you on missions or anything? I just leave them at MB and build me stuff.

No, but you can have them be in Big Bosses' deployment place if they're part of the combat unit.

Huh? You can play as them?

If they are in your combat team, yes. On "sortie" just choose to play as them instead of Big Boss.

[Positive Touch]

la le lu le lo

[Sho Nuff]

Just got to Africa

This is the finest game to come out of Japan in forever

[VomKriege]

Our game is broken ! 
(Good on them to warn players, but it's just the Twitter ! Formulation ! RT ! #theinnerbugdemonofbigboss that makes me laugh.)

[nachobro]

Haven't gotten Quiet yet, but is she better than the dog?  seems like he'd easily be the best Buddy.

[mormapope]

Haven't gotten Quiet yet, but is she better than the dog?  seems like he'd easily be the best Buddy.

She borderline breaks the game, and I haven't even equipped her with the silent versions of her weapons. Towards max bond level, you get the command "cover me", she fires at any target in the area until there are no targets left. She can clear most outposts by herself.

If you complete the main mission 45 or 46, she disappears forever though. Think that's her story ending essentially. If that worries anyone here, read up on it. If you use a butterfly as your emblem thingy, she stays for good but you don't unlock the mission and a side op.

[Purrp Skirrp]

Does anyone know what I'm talking about here?

Why can I read the steps/parts of the mission beforehand, but once the mission is underway these same steps/parts are hidden and displayed as "? ? ?"?

It makes completing the optional parts of the mission a pain in the ass because I don't know what to do, unless I write that shit down before the mission starts.

[nachobro]

If you use a butterfly as your emblem thingy, she stays for good but you don't unlock the mission and a side op.

That's a weird reason for her to stay but I'll assume there's some distinguished mentally-challenged story reason for it. I'm still super early in the main missions, just been doing hella side ops

Also can you still go back and play the game after the story ends? Just curious if I should be trying to S-rank missions before a certain point or if I can go back after it's all done and S-rank them then.

[mormapope]

There's no concrete ending to gameplay. Once you get and complete the true ending, you can still play every mission in the game. 

[tiesto]

So I was reading a bit about chapter 2 in this game and it seems like

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you have to re-do a lot of the old missions with much tighter and more challenging restrictions.

Is this the case? Are missions 32-50 unique enough to attempt to do? I'm only at mission 12 and struggling, can't imagine this getting any tougher...

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[mormapope]

Yeah. Chapter 2 of the game is mainly story shit that has nothing to do with main missions, but even more so compared to chapter 1. You do random missions and then you get zapped away to motherbase for story stuff.

Without spoiling anything, a lot of fans are really angry over something that happens in the story, and how weak the story is in this MGS. I know the big story moment/thingy and I thought it was neat. But the plot in this is incredibly minimal. Barely anything happens. If you've followed the game and watched all the story trailers, you've seen the entire game just about.

Cassette tapes are pretty well done at least.

[thisismyusername]

Haven't gotten Quiet yet, but is she better than the dog?  seems like he'd easily be the best Buddy.

She borderline breaks the game, and I haven't even equipped her with the silent versions of her weapons. Towards max bond level, you get the command "cover me", she fires at any target in the area until there are no targets left. She can clear most outposts by herself.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Rambo: Blood Cosplay > Wallhack dog.

Even if enemies have helmets, they'll be alerted and still go into war with her and still lose.

[toku]

I love watching DD unsheathe his knife and cut throats. It never gets old.

[mormapope]

Got the wormhole fulton. So fucking worth it, everything has a 100% success rate for extraction no matter what, can get containers and dudes from inside buildings.

[helios]

[toku]

Is it worth it to be using traditional camo gear over sneak suit?

[The Legend of Sunblade]

Is it worth it to be using traditional camo gear over sneak suit?

I've yet to have a moment where using normal camo beats the GZ sneaking suit. Low cost to deploy and I value being able to sneak up behind dudes waaaaaaay more.

[Rahxephon91]

This really would have been the best MGS if only the story was better.


And a boss unit, but thats just my personal opinion.

[Sho Nuff]

So I'm confused, I need to get the Transportation Specialist from a certain mission. I replayed it, and evaced him, but then at the end of the day he didn't show up at Mother Base. What's the dealio? Note that I died in a later checkpoint in that mission so maybe I have to beat the mission clean in one run?

[Rahxephon91]

In my experince you did'nt have to complete the mission. You just had to be clear that he got to mother base(I think the game deliverers stuff as you get away from outposts) and then you could leave the mission.

[thisismyusername]

Got the wormhole fulton. So fucking worth it, everything has a 100% success rate for extraction no matter what, can get containers and dudes from inside buildings.

I have the GMP, but not the support (or whatever the non research one) level yet. I've got a ton of A/A+'s for that one in the Brig, so basically I'm waiting.

Does it use precious materials like the special hands do? I want to abuse and use Jehuty, but it requires the Precious Minerals that I want to use for the Stealth as well.
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That rain scene, tho... "Ashamed of my words and deeds," indeed.

Is it worth it to be using traditional camo gear over sneak suit?

Less easy to see in the day time versus the Sneaking Suit. Otherwise at night it's louder than the Sneaking Suit.

It's a matter of preference, really.

So I'm confused, I need to get the Transportation Specialist from a certain mission. I replayed it, and evaced him, but then at the end of the day he didn't show up at Mother Base. What's the dealio? Note that I died in a later checkpoint in that mission so maybe I have to beat the mission clean in one run?

Check your iDroid next time, if "fulton recovery in progress" is at the bottom right of the map you aren't safe. If it's not there, you're safe to quit the mission or restart the checkpoint.

[Mr. Gundam]

I'm still early so maybe things change and I get that it builds upon the Peace Walker format, but it's really weird seeing a big budget AAA console title that feels like a portable game.

[Rahxephon91]

Chapter 10. One of the prisoners in the broken wings mission I think.

[thisismyusername]

Where can I find the transportation specialist? What missions? Might need to do that soon.

You do know if you highlight the story missions, it lists what you can find in them at the top right, right?

[toku]

how the fuck are ppl beating this game already

[demi]

Probably cuz they dont care about the garbage filler.

I got my copy today. What's OP dudes so I dont get frustrated with this farce of a Metal Gear game. Should I just go play HD Collection instead? Twin Snakes?

[mormapope]

Twin Snakes 

[thisismyusername]

Wow at the OSP for the Susistence variants. They really should've had these as options for ALL missions. Goddamn it, Konami.

[FatalT]

I love this game so much. I've been uploading a lot of videos of all the neat moments I've come across in-game to my Facebook page. I'm trying to do ALL the side-ops when they pop up as well so I'm only on like Mission 14 or so but I've put almost 40 hours into it. I just got Quiet to use as a buddy!

[thisismyusername]

Wow at the OSP for the Susistence variants. They really should've had these as options for ALL missions. Goddamn it, Konami.

To add, this is probably the challenge Rah seeks, though probably without the "no alert" stipulation. It's bar far the closest thing to the older Metal Gears where you drop in with no weapons and have to pick them up yourself.

No suppressors though.  :'(

I'm trying to do the "Total Stealth" variant which is doing me in because I can't seem to get them to NOT notice the fulton extractions I'm doing in the area. Ugh.

Edit:

Oh shit, that's all I have to do? 

spoiler (click to show/hide)

[close]

I guess it's one way of solving it, but still.

[toku]

STAFF IS ALWAYS GOD DAMN FIGHTING

EDIT:
Also yea the way ranking in this works, you can kill as long as you do what you're doing quickly and they never get a full spot on you.

[nachobro]

Fire everyone with the Troublemaker skill. I had a bunch of them and once I got rid of them, my staff haven't fought once

[toku]

Fire everyone with the Troublemaker skill. I had a bunch of them and once I got rid of them, my staff haven't fought once

Thanks!

[thisismyusername]

Well, got more of Quiet's backstory.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

She's infected with the parasites, like I figured. But the question is: Was she a sleeper agent sent by Cipher to be captured after her failure to kill Big Boss, or did she fall in love with him like Ocelot did? 

[close]

[Sho Nuff]

Fire everyone with the Troublemaker skill. I had a bunch of them and once I got rid of them, my staff haven't fought once

I just heard about this today at work, so I fired everybody too. Now my base is running as as silk

[Sho Nuff]

By the way, I heard that the fastest way to get an airlift is to Fulton yourself, but I can't figure out how to do it. I think it has to do with vehicles, but you can't Fulton something that you are sitting in, as far as I can tell.

[VomKriege]

About the Quiet bug :
http://www.konami.jp/mgs_portal/jp/info/?id=677

[toku]

fuck this stupid fucking game being so fucking fuck

[thisismyusername]

By the way, I heard that the fastest way to get an airlift is to Fulton yourself, but I can't figure out how to do it. I think it has to do with vehicles, but you can't Fulton something that you are sitting in, as far as I can tell.

Apparently you can do it in a box, but I haven't tried to fulton a box.

A shipping container will work. Climb on it, fulton it. Prompt will come up. Fulton grab. Extract.

[Sho Nuff]

Marvelous, thank you sir!

[toku]

if you're on a side op you can just pause and hit return to ACC

[thisismyusername]

if you're on a side op you can just pause and hit return to ACC

Why do that if he's already extracting a container though? Just get on the last one you're extracting and hold on.

Apparently you get a Heroism hit if you leave a buddy behind doing this, but I haven't ran into that. So...