MGSV thread of there's a game coming out.

[Bebpo]

What?  What I've read is that nothing happens when you get 100%

I'm pretty sure I got all the story content in the game (all tapes, all cutscenes) with only around 65-70% completion.

[seagrams hotsauce]

watched pequod land on an enemy chopper today and now i love this shitty ass game

[VomKriege]

What?  What I've read is that nothing happens when you get 100%

I'm pretty sure I got all the story content in the game (all tapes, all cutscenes) with only around 65-70% completion.

Yeah I'm pretty certain I've never read anything about an hidden ending locked behind a 100% completion so far. There might be an easter egg or something with a set of obscure requirements, but I would think it would have been datamined by now (In fact it maybe did, with the one postulated being an ending for the FOB part ?).

"Too late Rax. Now die."

[thisismyusername]

There's nothing unlocked by doing 100%. Those of you that don't like the game (Rah) should stop.

[Positive Touch]

are there any Afghanis in Afghanistan?

[Rahxephon91]

You have to complete all the missions for episode 46. Max out Quiet's bond for episode 45. And complete all important side ops which also means doing plenty of the side ops. Also have Mother Base at a certain level. So at this point I might as well as I don't have Quiet maxed, haven't unlocked all the important side ops like Paz's, and still have extreme 44(?) to do.

[Bebpo]

You have to complete all the missions for episode 46. Max out Quiet's bond for episode 45. And complete all important side ops which also means doing plenty of the side ops. Also have Mother Base at a certain level. So at this point I might as well as I don't have Quiet maxed, haven't unlocked all the important side ops like Paz's, and still have extreme 44(?) to do.

Dude, someone is feeding you bad info.  To get ep46 you just need to do the missions in ch.2 with the gold dots and maybe have the Paz stuff done.  You don't have to do ANY of the repeat EXTREME/TOTAL STEALTH type missions and you don't have to do the endless side ops.  I didn't do any of the repeat missions.  Also I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with motherbase level.

You may need to finish Paz's story first, but that means just doing the wandering soldiers 1-10 and then grabbing the photo at the door to her hallway.  This is a pain in the ass if you haven't been doing them regularly, but it only takes about an hour or two to grab one, back to ACC, grab another, back to ACC, then watch cutscene with paz -> smoke a time stogie -> watch cutscene -> smoke -> repeat and remember to grab photo #11 at the start of the hallway on motherbase where she's located.

And yeah you need to max Quiet out for 45, but how are you 100 hours in or something and haven't maxed all your D-buddies?  It doesn't take very long if you're using them. 

[tiesto]

So I just made it to Mission 41, which apparently is the mission that kicks off the chain of events where

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Quiet leaves you

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I'd like to use her for the rest of the Side Ops (which I'm in the midst of doing) and the additional Extreme ones (looking in the guide it seems there are some more left)... is there any way to keep her to use on those missions?

[Rahxephon91]

I just use DDog. Didn't care much for Quiet.

[nachobro]

So I just made it to Mission 41, which apparently is the mission that kicks off the chain of events where

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Quiet leaves you

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I'd like to use her for the rest of the Side Ops (which I'm in the midst of doing) and the additional Extreme ones (looking in the guide it seems there are some more left)... is there any way to keep her to use on those missions?

Use the butterfly in your emblem. From the little I've read that will stop the last mission from being triggered

[Positive Touch]

I just use DDog. Didn't care much for Quiet.

the jokes write themselves

[Rahxephon91]

I just use DDog. Didn't care much for Quiet.

the jokes write themselves

I don't really get it? What jokes?

DD basically has radar and since honestly it seems annoying to figure out line of sight and enemy position in this game, having DD basically tell you where to go far more useful then Quiet's sniping which is something I can already do. She also seems to basically go do her own thing anyway. About the only thing I like about her is she has no problem taking out armored  individuals. Then again neither does DD, she just has the range.

Also DD is great on missions. He tells you were important people are and marks other important info.

[mormapope]

Quiet becomes the best partner in the game once you get her "Cover me" command. She'll take out entire outposts by herself, distract all the guards if she's using a unsilenced rifle, take out everyone with no alerts when using a silenced weapon. She has a good amount of health and can also scout areas in advance.

I played without markers for an added challenge, so Diamond Dog was pretty useless. The horse is 2nd best, just as fast as a jeep and doesn't slow down in terrain. D-Walker costs a fuck ton to deploy if you upgrade it.

[Rahxephon91]

Yeah she basically does everything which is nice, but also pretty boring.

[mormapope]

That's why she's perfect for side ops, get shit done quicker.

[Bebpo]

Yeah, I don't like Quiet.  I hate having to manually assign her to scout each place up ahead just get a semi-equivalent of D-Dog's radar.  She's really powerful and was unique enough to use her for a while and get her up to max bond, but after that point I stuck with the dog + jeep combo.  I loved my D-Walker but it's too slow for moving across big areas and by the end game it's too weak to use against any armored vehicle that destroys it in one hit.

[thisismyusername]

Yeah, I don't like Quiet.  I hate having to manually assign her to scout each place up ahead just get a semi-equivalent of D-Dog's radar.  She's really powerful and was unique enough to use her for a while and get her up to max bond, but after that point I stuck with the dog + jeep combo.  I loved my D-Walker but it's too slow for moving across big areas and by the end game it's too weak to use against any armored vehicle that destroys it in one hit.

Use walkers "boost" function, breh. You can speed across terrain nearly as fast as the Horse. Problem is, the Walker gets alerts really fast/quickly compared to the other three options.

Also Quiet isn't hard to micromanage once you learn of the "up/down on the map menu" iDroid shortcut. Same with calling in airstrikes via the Int-Scope.

[Bebpo]

How do you boost?  Assuming that's different than the hold L3 run which is slower than Snake sprinting on his own.


Didn't know about the B

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Birthday thing until I just saw a gaf thread and then watched it on youtube.  That was pretty cool.  The little stuff in the game is way better than the actual stuff that matters like the plot.

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[thisismyusername]

How do you boost?  Assuming that's different than the hold L3 run which is slower than Snake sprinting on his own.

Square/X IIRC. Like Diamond Horse. I don't use Diamond Walker since it gets spotted easily. But it's possible to "boost" it like the horse. Problem is, unlike the horse it can't jump some terrain and is a bit hard to control.

Essentially, if you're getting away from a base, you boost. If you're getting close to a base. You slow down (O/B) and then X/A to change from "wheel" mode/stance into standing/flat-leg stance. It'll be a bit louder, I think but this enables you to use the gun(s) you equip accurately. Walker's more built for you to "IDGAF" through levels, though.

Also unless I'm misunderstanding, there's no "hold L3" for Diamond Walker. His leg speed is the same no matter what?

If you're talking Venom himself: There's no need to hold L3. It's click-to-sprint a la CoD/BF.

[El Babua]

lol they're selling insurance for FOBs now.

[mormapope]

I haven't played for while now. I fully expect to get fucked over when it tells me how many people stole shit from my FOB. 

[Rahxephon91]

Is the online mode up?

[nachobro]

Glad I went offline right after the base defense missions. FOBs sound like more hassle than they are worth.

[thisismyusername]

Is the online mode up?

On consoles, today. Yeah. US is still "Grace Chen Time" (AKA:  Ż\_(ツ)_/Ż) for Playstation, though.

I'm thinking of picking up the PS3 version today to patch and play MGO to see how janky this version is. I've never been a fan of MGO, so I'm sure this won't convince me otherwise. I'm just curious how Kojima-LA did with it.

[thisismyusername]

lol they're selling insurance for FOBs now.

OH MY GOD YOU AREN'T KIDDING. 

FOB insurance service begins!

Your FOBs are always at risk of coming under attack. Now, you can rest easy with FOB insurance (paid service). If you sign up for insurance, then during the insurance period you will be compensated for any materials and staff lost due to rival infiltrations.
* Staff/materials stolen by the rival will in fact remain on your base, and an identical amount of staff/materials will be handed over to the rival instead.
* MB Coins are purchased with real money, but free MB Coins are also distributed periodically as login bonuses, etc.
* The following are not covered by FOB insurance:
 ・Staff/items that are not fully your property, such as abducted staff being held in your Brig (FOB)
 ・Wounded staff (staff lost due to death or extraction will be compensated)
 ・Staff used by you to deploy in defense of the FOB (neither death nor extraction will be compensated)
 ・Nuclear weapons

Get fucked, Konami. You heard people's complaints and then microcharged it. Fuck you. I mad.

I haven't played for while now. I fully expect to get fucked over when it tells me how many people stole shit from my FOB. 

Back up save before starting. Start game. Invaded? Daily rewards? They aren't MB coins (for MGO, IIRC they're using it for F.O.B. and MGO respectively)? Quit game, reload backed up save: Nothing lost/gained.

Bit of a hassle but better than paying the Troll Toll to get away from the F.O.B. ... Hole.

[Steve Contra]

Game is pretty great

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Trying to beat quiet with just the tranq gun

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[thisismyusername]

Game is pretty great

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Trying to beat quiet with just the tranq gun

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That's really the best part of the game. Until you learn the cheese tactics that ruin that entire thing.

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[nachobro]

So doing side ops will let you skip the replay missions? Kinda not feeling them

[thisismyusername]

So doing side ops will let you skip the replay missions? Kinda not feeling them

Yes. 3 undone side-ops = 1 new main mission for chapter 2.

There's only like 2-4 main missions in chapter 2.

[nachobro]

Main missions are the yellow ones, right?

There's also yellow side ops, I assume those need to be done too.

[thisismyusername]

Main missions are the yellow ones, right?

There's also yellow side ops, I assume those need to be done too.

Yes.

And yes.

Though one will unlock after mission 41. If you're wanting to have Quiet help you until the end, keep the butterfly emblem on until you're ready to lose control.

[thisismyusername]

Also SWEET JESUS CHRIST the resolution drop on PS3 coming from PC.

How the hell were we okay with sub-720p (or hell native 1080p) in the mid 2000's, I'll never know.

[nachobro]

Cool. Can't wait to do the Eli one, I'm gonna shoot that little cunt in the face with my stun assault rifle

[thisismyusername]

MGO's still pure jank and once people unlock shit like the decoy dog it'll get frustrating really fast.

[Rahxephon91]

Mission  45 was pretty solid. Wish the game was filled with these kind of missions.

[FatalT]

Holy fuck Metal Gear Online is great.

[thisismyusername]

MGO's still pure jank and once people unlock shit like the decoy dog it'll get frustrating really fast.

Okay, updating on that: So long as teams aren't severely stacked the game can be fun. Probably the first time I've actually wanted to play MGO. Kudos Kojima-LA. Getting near the data disc with their whole team on that point while you pick one off with the stun sniper, they freak out. You sneak up during that slit the throat of one and another is captured by your Plush  into a fulton and the last two remaining are somewhere who knows where while the last three of us go to capture the disc.

Then the host ragequits and you don't get the massive EXP you could've gotten from that because hostrage quits = FUCK YOU EXP GAIN.

[Steve Contra]

Also the first hour of the game is inexcusable.  I would have fired Kojima's ass for that shit alone.

[FatalT]

[thisismyusername]

I need to unlock infiltraitor it seems. I've been using Scout with the mark grenades to pretty good support role use.

[Rahxephon91]

Has anyone noticed that some of the recordings(especially the ones that logically shouldn't be recordings) really sound like cutscenes complete with camera movement noise and sound effects, but without the actual "recording filter".

I wonder if they were supposed to be actual cutscenes. Maybe adding credence to this game being compromised?

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Like the conversation with Paz and Zero. Half the stuff doesn't make sense since there's no visuals. There were camera movement noise during some of the CodeTalker and Skull Face. Obviously, there were going to always be plenty of tapes, but those without the recording scratchiness sure seem like they were supposed to be actual cutscenes.

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[thisismyusername]

Maybe adding credence to this game being compromised?

As if datamined Chapter 3, the lack of Episode 51 (on the Collector's Bluray it was 30% complete) and other things didn't clue you in?

[Rahxephon91]

Well I'm done with the game. Eh 6/10. Best gameplay in the series, everything surrounding it is pretty bad or at least personally disappointing.

Maybe a 7/10 because at least some of the truth tapes are good and in general the story has given me something to chew on even if I dislike it. It's just that this is possibly one of the most deeply flawed games I've ever played. It's not outright terrible like MGS4 or just a pos like PW. It's a mess of ideas, expectations, disappointment, ambition, subversion, and whatever else I can throw here.

Either way I'd probably put it over 4 and PW, with PW I think being the worst MGS.

So my ranking goes.

3>/=2>1>TTS>5(GZ/TPP)>4>PO>PW.

[Rahxephon91]

MGO is hilarious. I thought with a western team doing it would be less janky with at least the interface and internet stuff. yet it seems as janky as previous ones.

Seems like the actual game could be pretty fun though.

[eleuin]

MGO looks fun but no host migration is embarrassing

[Trent Dole]

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/metal-gear-online-dlc-adds-horse-armour-and-cleavage/0156982
But sadly not horse cleavage.

[Steve Contra]

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I finally beat quiet straight up, and accidentally shot her during what I thought was a cutscene   so I looked up how to cheese it and got an S ranking

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[bork]

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I finally beat quiet straight up, and accidentally shot her during what I thought was a cutscene   so I looked up how to cheese it and got an S ranking

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I did the same thing.  That was one easy "fight!"

[bork]

Well I'm done with the game. Eh 6/10. Best gameplay in the series, everything surrounding it is pretty bad or at least personally disappointing.

Maybe a 7/10 because at least some of the truth tapes are good and in general the story has given me something to chew on even if I dislike it. It's just that this is possibly one of the most deeply flawed games I've ever played. It's not outright terrible like MGS4 or just a pos like PW. It's a mess of ideas, expectations, disappointment, ambition, subversion, and whatever else I can throw here.

Either way I'd probably put it over 4 and PW, with PW I think being the worst MGS.

So my ranking goes.

3>/=2>1>TTS>5(GZ/TPP)>4>PO>PW.

PO > PW?



PO is the worst.  I had problems with the controls...would try to sneak up and grab someone and would punch them instead.   

[Rahxephon91]

PO is pretty terrible, but so is PW. PO still felt like classic Metal Gear though. It also had a self contained story that while bad at least was quick about it. I don't even know what the point of PW was. PO at least had the "this is where the OUter Hevan idea came from". It also had classic MG rouge merc group. Which is something I love. PW had those dumb robot battles. It didn't have grinding or that terrible mission structure.

PO would hav been great if it played like MGS 1 and 2. It's such a shame they tried to force TPS gameplay on a system that would have been a great fit for the old style.

But yeah PO was the first MG thing I didn't like.

But yes PW controlled a lot better, but it was also a game that had reall bad level design and was super easy.

[Bebpo]

Well I'm done with the game. Eh 6/10. Best gameplay in the series, everything surrounding it is pretty bad or at least personally disappointing.

Maybe a 7/10 because at least some of the truth tapes are good and in general the story has given me something to chew on even if I dislike it. It's just that this is possibly one of the most deeply flawed games I've ever played. It's not outright terrible like MGS4 or just a pos like PW. It's a mess of ideas, expectations, disappointment, ambition, subversion, and whatever else I can throw here.

Either way I'd probably put it over 4 and PW, with PW I think being the worst MGS.

So my ranking goes.

3>/=2>1>TTS>5(GZ/TPP)>4>PO>PW.

PO > PW?



PO is the worst.  I had problems with the controls...would try to sneak up and grab someone and would punch them instead.   

Portable Ops is the last MGS to have a good story.  It also had original MGS bosses, not just rehashed bosses from previous games (Grey Fox aside).  But yeah the gameplay is way better in Peace Walker and Peace Walker is a much better game.

But PO's story was pretty decent.  Definitely miss having a MGS game with a decent story.

Also PW turned MGS into a grind rpg which MGSV followed.  This has pros and cons and it's definitely not for everybody.  Basically MGS transformed into a new franchise with Peace Walker.

[thisismyusername]

[nachobro]

DWalker is a fucking boss. Quiet is cool cause she'll instantly take out a base but DW with the radar head, chaingun, and CQC arm is awesome for just going in and fucking shit up.

[Bebpo]

Yeah, I love using CQC arm on dudes with shields blocking my chaingun.

[Kara]

This thread has been v. fascinating. I'm glad that 2 is the game that turned me off the most, every subsequent title has been like a pity lay instead of the slow descent into disgust like it has been for y'all. Given how much I've liked 4 so far, I expect to think TPP knocks the closest on 1's door.

[mormapope]

Have you revisited MGS2 at all since your initial disgust? Its sorta mindblowing that MGS2 is your disgust point but you like MGS4, MGS2 is a much funner ride than MGS4 in almost every way.

Metal Gear Rising remains the best Metal Gear game since MGS3.

[Kara]

I played Substance a few years after. Still the low point for me.

4 is a game that embraces all the games (for better and worse), 2 is anything but that, in fact its hatchet job to everything is one of its redeeming qualities.

Also FPS with soliton radar is lulz.

[mormapope]

A lot of MGS2 fans oversell how "smart" the game is, but there's still no other game that goes full distinguished mentally-challenged fellow intelligently like MGS2.

I played Substance a few years after. Still the low point for me.

4 is a game that embraces all the games (for better and worse), 2 is anything but that, in fact its hatchet job to everything is one of its redeeming qualities.

Also FPS with soliton radar is lulz.

That's what makes it so great, its Metal Gear in gameplay design but it's a dumb and bizarre beast on its own.
 

Also, European Extreme in MGS2 makes it one of the hardest but fair games ever. One hit kill boss battles 

[mormapope]

GOAT moment in the Metal Gear franchise for me. Freestyled dumbness, insanity, blame, truth.

[Bebpo]

When I went back and replayed all the games before MGS4 my opinion of MGS2 went down a lot.  I thought it was awesome crazy mind fuck game at the time and I loved that scissors stuff and naked raiden, but while I'm still fine with the story I guess, the gameplay/mission design is pretty lacking for a lot of the Shell.  There's a bunch of tedious shit like the bomb defusing, emma escort water stuff, backtracking everywhere and a lot of the boss fights sucked.  It's just not all that much fun to play on the Big Shell.  MGS1 still holds up amazingly well and is a total joy to run through any time, the level design and pacing is perfect along with lots of great boss fights and an enjoyable story, and then MGS3 Subsistence is still the best damn thing Kojima ever lucked out in making and pretty much a perfect game in gameplay & story.  But 2 is kind of eh, ok.  4 is a movie you watch once and then realize how dumb it all was, and Peace Walker is a fun little repetitive portable game, and MGS5 is a sublime playing, unfinished game that has the worst story in the series, and that's in a series where there is Peace Walker.

If I ever gave the series another run through I'd probably just replay MGS1 & MGS3 and call it a day.  But MGS2 was worth playing once, MGS4 worth watching once, and Peace Walker/MGS5 worth playing without watching once.