Final Fantasy VII: Episode I - The Phantom Menace remake trailer

[Wrath2X]

Unsurprisingly the VA sounds baaaaaaaad. Gameplay looks a little like Kingdom Hearts and FFXV. Will probably be an ok game with shitty va and different characterization like most people expected.

[Positive Touch]

uh I see no gameplay in there. also I hope they let us choose jp va unlike the ff13 games

[demi]

Thats the wrong trailer because Wrath is a fuckup.

[Rufus]

Combat at 1:10. Still menu driven it seems, but without fixed combat lines.

Looks nice so far. Wedge sounds like ass though. If that's a sign of things to come...

[Great Rumbler]

I like the changes I'm seeing so far. And I'm glad they're not just rehashing the original with better graphics, but expanding on it in a way that makes sense. At least, that's the vibe I get from the trailer.

[mormapope]

Release date guess: November 13th, 2018.

[Rahxephon91]

Looked pretty damn amazing and I'm increasingly surprised with how much Square shows. I did'nt expect this much to be shown with (well kind of poor sounding) English voice acting.

[El Babua]

Surprised they're showing gameplay as well.

Looks like UE4 development (probably) is making things smoother.

VA is terrible but all will be forgiven if they keep crossdressing Cloud and sailor suit Barrett.

[mormapope]

Guys, Final Fantasy Versus XIII was shown off a few times, gameplay included, back in 2011. While this should be a lot easier to make due to a solid engine and the plot groundwork already being laid out, I wouldn't expect this soon.

If this comes out before FFXV, then god damn FFXV is a even bigger fuck up than imagined.

[Rahxephon91]

XV comes out next year. I doubt Remake does. Besides, this current Square has been far more promising then at any point during the PS3 gen.

Previous Square wouldn't have even shown this at a public place much less have actual gameplay.

[Positive Touch]

lol ok guys. the se that could never finish projects is quickly becoming a thing of the past, so i think it's a big stretch to say these games won't be coming out any time soon.

my guess is that ff15 comes out next year,  as the team recently said that most major work for the game is done. I'd imagine they'd try to get ff7 out in 2017 for the 20th anniversary, but Kingdom Hearts 3 will be coming out in the next few years too and they want to space things out.

[Phoenix Dark]

shave your armpits brehs

[recursivelyenumerable]

cloud looks pretty fucked up. appropriate i guess

[Tasty]

Looks like a modern Squeenix game. Is anyone that surprised?

[naff]

fuck yeah barrett

[Cerveza mas fina]

Looks ace, will buy

[Mods Help]

I wish they had Uematsu on board

[Take My Breh Away]

lol ok guys. the se that could never finish projects is quickly becoming a thing of the past, so i think it's a big stretch to say these games won't be coming out any time soon.

my guess is that ff15 comes out next year,  as the team recently said that most major work for the game is done. I'd imagine they'd try to get ff7 out in 2017 for the 20th anniversary, but Kingdom Hearts 3 will be coming out in the next few years too and they want to space things out.

Someone's getting fired over the fact they made Luminous engine, then turns out they could have got the same results on Unreal 4 (Which FF7R is running on)

I'd totally peg this down for Late 2017 though.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I agree about it being out in 2017 so it can be the 20th anniversary.  It just means Kingdom Hearts 3 will come out in 2020.

[Rahxephon91]

Looks like a modern Squeenix game. Is anyone that surprised?

What does that even mean?

[The Legend of Sunblade]

http://press.na.square-enix.com/releases/586/final-fantasy-vii-remake-showcased-at-playstation-experience

FF7R is episodic. I guess we know how an FF7 remake is being made in 201x. 

[Joe Molotov]

Good, I just wanna play Midgar and skip the rest of the game.

[Trent Dole]

Haha it's fucking episodic.

[mormapope]

http://press.na.square-enix.com/releases/586/final-fantasy-vii-remake-showcased-at-playstation-experience

FF7R is episodic. I guess we know how an FF7 remake is being made in 201x. 

I was spot on about it being more linear, its a episodic game now 

[Mods Help]

Good, I just wanna play Midgar and skip the rest of the game.

[mormapope]

Linearity isn't bad either, but you have to be high off hype to not realize the remake as a whole is going to be a lot more linear and funneled. FFVII without doing side content is a 40-60 hour long game. FFXV, Kingdom Hearts 3, and this remake are all in development at the same time. There is no way the remake will have the same scope and exploration of the original FFVII with the visuals and full voice acting it has.

My point is, instead of an open world to run around in, you're going to be put in a field and told to go somewhere. The original version of FFVII funnels you, but you're allowed to do what you want for large sections of the game.

I'm going to guess that the remake is going to be very linear for the majority of story beats, and there will be a couple really big open areas. I would not be shocked if it follows the FFXIII formula, where you do linear main quest stuff for 20 hours and the open world is used for hunting monsters/doing monster hunter missions.

I fucking knew there would be a catch.

 

[Rahxephon91]

I don't see the problem. I really don't see why people are pissed. Not enough info to know if that effects the scale and scope of the production. Having the game in chunks could mean the game will be delivered in a timely matter. Could keep people talking about. And could make plenty of money buy people buying the episodes and buying the eventual complete release.

I don't see how it being episodic means it has to be a cliff notes version.

The uproar is stupid.

[mormapope]

This story beat is way cooler and impactful than anything that happens in Midgar

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

It's a way to get the game out earlier and squeeze more money out of the suckers fans.  Wouldn't be surprised if you need to spend over $100 to get all the episodes.

[mormapope]

I don't see the problem. I really don't see why people are pissed. Not enough info to know if that effects the scale and scope of the production. Having the game in chunks could mean the game will be delivered in a timely matter. Could keep people talking about. And could make plenty of money buy people buying the episodes and buying the eventual complete release.

I don't see how it being episodic means it has to be a cliff notes version.

The uproar is stupid.

How does something being episodic change development time though?

If they fuck up the pricing for this, the outrage will be completely justified.

It's a way to get the game out earlier and squeeze more money out of the suckers fans.  Wouldn't be surprised if you need to spend $100 to get all the episodes.

I agree but I would scratch the bolded. Different pieces of side content will be sold as "bonus" episodes. You want to play minigames and go on dates with the cast at Golden Saucer? $9.99 and its yours!

[The Legend of Sunblade]

I'm not really pissed myself, just confused. Episodic formats work when the story beats and lead-up to them are unknown and you leave people with anticipation for the next episode. Everyone knows FF7's story, so that kinda impact from the format is totally lost.

FFIV: TAY (a crummy game in general) "worked" in an episodic format cause no one knew the story and the whole thing is segmented into different parts that happen at relatively the same time, until the final conclusion part. If FF7R builds up from that, expect stuff like earlier parts having level caps that you can't break until you start the next episode. 

[mormapope]

I was gonna say that as well. There is absolutely no tension unless the development team changes the plot throughout the game drastically. Episodic games works the best when there's a lot of hype leading into the episode. With remakes, its generally a lot more fun to go through the entire thing immediately to satisfy your own curiosity.

The gameplay implications is the biggest concern besides pricing.

[mormapope]

Guys, the game is so big we can't release it all at once.

So either the game is episodic and you get it in small chunks. Or Square Enix is breaking the game apart into three 20 hour parts and will sell each part for $60.

[The Legend of Sunblade]

I've no reason to disbelieve the guy really, it's just a weird decision to make. What the pricing on all these parts are gonna be remains to be seen. 

I just hope the gameplay is great and it feels good to control. It's story and any new scenes added are super-low priority.

[mormapope]

I agree. A lot of people are comparing this to FFXIII when it comes to release format, but that isn't true at all. FFXIII was a full fledged game with tons and tons of side content, the side content makes up 50%-70% of your total playtime. FFXIII-2 was made to make some extra cash, the in game explanation of why FFXIII-2's events were happening after XIII's ending was flimsy as hell. Yet, it was another full fledged game that stood on its own mechanically. Same with Lightning Returns.

Whatever Square Enix is doing for FFVII Remake, its uncharted territory.

[Rufus]

Two scenarios:
They don't have enough material to chop up and deliver in regular intervals, ultimately taking forever to be completed, maybe beyond the life of the current consoles.
OR
They have everything and are merely delaying the polish, QA and CGI production milk it for maximum revenue.

Or both. 7 episodes worth, just because. Several of which will be mostly cutscenes, for dramatic pacing.

[suppadoopa]

meh who cares if it's split

SE can't possibly devote time to a fully fledged VII since they already have a trillion other projects for the PS4 and NX

[Positive Touch]

the real question is which episode will have Genesis in it

also there's no way in hell the complete version of the game is reasonably priced. I'm sure they're aiming for over a hundred bucks total, with lots of aesthetic microtransactions like the 13 series had

[Tasty]

Will buy the completed version on Steam a year after release for $9.67.

[The Legend of Sunblade]

There's a new interview with Kitase and Nomura from Famitsu, with bits and pieces of it flying around. Some translated bits:



http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188226740&postcount=2987

Quick stuff from interviews

-they made multi-release since they would have to cut stuff out if they made it in one game. The detail of the game will be so dense, and you will be able to go to various locations within Midgar that you couldn't go before.
-there will be some stuff that has to be cut, but there will be lots of stuff added. overall volume will be big
-They are working with various companies outside, including CC2
-The battle system is real-time, action feel. The degree of action will be "Dissidia > Kingdom Hearts> FF7 remake" It will be more tactical.
-Although it's action style, it has ATB as well.
-You can control other party members, but you can keep control one if you want
-3 party members at a time like the original

-Character model is supervised by Visual Work's director.
-They don't want to go with 100% realism for the characters since it might make it hard to recognize certain characters. So they are going as real as possible, while keeping the character's personality.
-Advent Children model data is over 10 years old so they can't really use it.
-Everything from the trailer (excluding the stuff that was shown from E3 reveal) was real-time. The end scene where Cloud gets off the train, it transitions directly to the gameplay.
-Cloud looking sick is partly due to the lighting. Nojima likes that Cloud looks very sick.
-Cross-dressing is obviously in the game, but Nomura didn't design it yet.
-All the party member's design is renewed like Barret.
-At first they thought of going with AC design of Barret, but decided not to.
-ATB and Limit gauge is there but they are different from the original. ATB turning red is something important.
-Battle tempo will be similar to Dissidia. Battle is done by people who has experience in both Dissidia and Kingdom Hearts.

and

http://www.novacrystallis.com/2015/12/snippets-of-new-final-fantasy-vii-remake-info-from-famitsu/

Nomura: If we make the characters reall, they’ll look like real people and no one will recognize them, so we’re aiming to balance.
Nomura: Advent Children models are too old, so they’ve been refining the graphics and balancing reality and deformation.
Aside from the CG shown at the beginning of the trailer, everything is in real-time. You can alter the camera angle during the train scene.
Cloud’s appearance has to partially to do with the lighting and his pale skin. Nojima had said Cloud’s sickly appearance is brilliant.
Square Enix is working with CyberConnect 2 to develop the Final Fantasy VII Remake.
Cross-dressing scene will be included. Nomura has yet to work on the design, however.
Final Fantasy VII Remake is completely different from Crisis Core’s battle system. Not as actiony as Dissidia Arcade or KH but closer to that style.
The battle speed they’re aiming for is Dissidia Arcade’s. The battles we saw in the trailer are kind of like a standard to aim for.
Nomura can’t go into details about the battle system, but he said it’s important to note that the ATB gauge turns red. Something significant.

[Tasty]

-Cross-dressing is obviously in the game, but Nomura didn't design it yet.

[The Legend of Sunblade]

What story adjustments can we expect?

Nomura: We are planning some mechanism to dig deeper into each episodes. Players who have played the original version surely would know everything from the beginning to the end of the game, including some very important moments. And we are planning to give even such users surprises.

Kitase: We are not going to remake a game so you only play for nostalgia. We want to make the hearts of the original fans pump. We are adjusting the story-line with this idea in mind.

 

That's at least directly addressing what I mentioned before about people already knowing the story. I hope they don't somehow involve Genesis in all this though.

[VomKriege]

Imagine the remake being discontinued mid release

[Rahxephon91]

Whatever Square Enix is doing for FFVII Remake, its uncharted territory.

Maybe not.

There's .Hack and that Capcom Dreamcast JRPG series. Could be like that maybe..

[demi]

it has to be a multi part release. zero chance you are putting a game like FF7 on a disc today, not with those file sizes.

[qq more]

I'm curious about the pricing and how this is going to affect the game's design itself overall. Guess we'll wait and see.

[The Sceneman]

I'm really curious about Barret's dark shades. Can he sense enemy HP with them?

[tiesto]

Wow every thing I read about this sounds fucking horrible 

[Cerveza mas fina]

Trailer still looks cool, so while SE is trolling us so hard (SO HARD) I'm still interested.

[archie4208]

it has to be a multi part release. zero chance you are putting a game like FF7 on a disc today, not with those file sizes.

Put it on 3 Blu-Rays.  Pander to the nostalgia crowd even more.  :^)

[Tasty]

Imagine the remake being discontinued mid release

That would never happ- *remembers Sonic 4*

[Positive Touch]

wouldn't it be cool if  when they said "episodes" they didn't mean telltale episodes but instead something like ff13 trilogy episodes

[Take My Breh Away]

wouldn't it be cool if  when they said "episodes" they didn't mean telltale episodes but instead something like ff13 trilogy episodes

So that's how they are going to do the cross dressing part. 100's of costumes like Lightning Returns as DLC . Take your own customized Cloud to the whorehouse to trick Don Corneo with cameos from other FF characters costumes.

Cloud in a Lightning costume

[Great Rumbler]

wouldn't it be cool if  when they said "episodes" they didn't mean telltale episodes but instead something like ff13 trilogy episodes

That's kind of what I'm getting from this. I don't think it's going to be 5 or so 6-8 hour episodes, but maybe 2-3 episodes that are about 25 hours long. Something like that. Pricing will still be important, though.

[Positive Touch]

yeah they just told kotaku that each entry will have content equal to a full-length game. lol they're gonna drag this out the whole gen.

[Tasty]

"Compilation of Final Fantasy 7" just took on a whole new meaning.

[Rufus]

So it is going to take forever. Gonna be interesting to see if they add any sub-plots. I imagine the filler will start to grate once people realize that it's delaying the completion of the thing.

[Joe Molotov]

yeah they just told kotaku that each entry will have content equal to a full-length game. lol they're gonna drag this out the whole gen.

You mean you hope they only drag it out through this gen. 

[Steve Contra]

yeah they just told kotaku that each entry will have content equal to a full-length game.

The Order: FF1886

[Phoenix Dark]

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Guys, the game is so big we can't release it all at once.

So either the game is episodic and you get it in small chunks. Or Square Enix is breaking the game apart into three 20 hour parts and will sell each part for $60.

Game is too big? Haha, I told Xbot-stans that Blu Ray>>>HD-DVD.