Two hour video showing every US PSX retail game

[Mods Help]

That variety.

[Rufus]

Alphabetical? Booooo~

[Great Rumbler]

Probably not gonna watch it, but I approve of the idea.

[Positive Touch]

yup there sure was a lot of complete shit released on Playstation

[BobFromPikeCreek]

Worst generation of gaming

[Positive Touch]

I'd agree with that but lately I've been thinking the late 00s were worse. way fewer games and a whole fuckton of generic crap

[Mods Help]

Worst generation of gaming

last gen sucked until like 2010

took literally five years to get good

[thisismyusername]

Worst generation of gaming

Not even right.

Last gen's Wii shovelware levels alone shit on the PSX and PS2's shovelware from a good green mile in terms of crap output that nobody would buy.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

Worst generation of gaming

Not even right.

Last gen's Wii shovelware levels alone shit on the PSX and PS2's shovelware from a good green mile in terms of crap output that nobody would buy.

Worst generation

The Wii's joke catalog doesn't undo the bangers that came out on 360 and PS3

[Rahxephon91]

Worst generation of gaming

last gen sucked until like 2010

took literally five years to get good

Huh?

I really can't fanthom what kind of games you guys like here and what constitutes a good generation.

I meanup until 2010 we already had...

Bayonetta, Devil May Cry 4, Lost Odyssey, Valkyria Chronicles, Resident Evil 5, Tales of Vesperia, Uncharted 2, No More Heroes, Gears of War 1/2, Halo 3, GTA4: Ballad of Gay Toney, Yakuza 3, Soul Calibur 4, Bionic Commando, Lost Planet, Mass Effect 1, Dragon Age, Ace Combat 6, Mirror's Edge, Modern Ware Fare/2, Crackdown, and really a lot more.

I don't know...I had plenty of good games to play before 2010. I certainly don't think it was sucking before 2010.

[chronovore]

Worst generation of gaming

Not even right.

Last gen's Wii shovelware levels alone shit on the PSX and PS2's shovelware from a good green mile in terms of crap output that nobody would buy.

Worst generation

The Wii's joke catalog doesn't undo the bangers that came out on 360 and PS3

Yeah, I'm still happy with my 360 and the backlog. The only stuff I have on my PS4 doesn't really feel like a generational leap.

There sure was a lot of absolute garbage on Wii.

BTW, BobfromPikeCreek, your avatar graphic is not showing up. You should host it on imgur or tumblr or anything which isn't hotlink'd IMDB.

[pilonv1]

Someone do a Dreamcast one pls

[Take My Breh Away]

How the fuck were there so many fishing games on it?

Also reminded me NHL Rock The Rink was the most unappreciated sports title of the gen. Best rental I ever made

[Mods Help]

Worst generation of gaming

last gen sucked until like 2010

took literally five years to get good

Huh?

I really can't fanthom what kind of games you guys like here and what constitutes a good generation.

I meanup until 2010 we already had...

Bayonetta, Devil May Cry 4, Lost Odyssey, Valkyria Chronicles, Resident Evil 5, Tales of Vesperia, Uncharted 2, No More Heroes, Gears of War 1/2, Halo 3, GTA4: Ballad of Gay Toney, Yakuza 3, Soul Calibur 4, Bionic Commando, Lost Planet, Mass Effect 1, Dragon Age, Ace Combat 6, Mirror's Edge, Modern Ware Fare/2, Crackdown, and really a lot more.

I don't know...I had plenty of good games to play before 2010. I certainly don't think it was sucking before 2010.

Ah, I fucked up. I meant beginning of the generation was good until it petered out into blahness.

I actually thought last generation got did okay at first. Good Japanese support. Mario Galaxy, Tales of Vesperia, Blue Dragon, Ninja Gaiden 2, Lost Odyssey, Resident Evil 5 were my highlights. Also, Uncharted 2, Saints Row 1 and 2, and Dragon Age for western games.

Then for me, nothing. Bayo I played on PS3 which wasn't the best version. On top of that, I'm not as big on it as others. I prefer NG. DMC4 was kinda disappointing at release but in hindsight an okay game. Valkyria was okay. No More Heroes was pretty mediocre and a poor follow up to Killer 7. I don't like Gears or Halo, GTA4 was one of the biggest gaming disappointments, Yakuza 3 not as good 1 or 2, didn't like Lost Planet, Crackdown bores me to tears, I don't like Mirror's Edge beyond trials, MW2 is good but for the most part FPS aren't my thing.

It took five years into the generation to get a Final Fantasy. Japanese support started to dry up. There was a big shift towards western games and first person shooters and I'm not big on either. Most of my favorite series were either dead (Suikoden), releasing disappointing entries (GTA, MGS) or imploded into mediocrity (FF).

DS and PSP were my main systems in those days. I don't exactly look at last generation wistfully as much as I do DS and psp, which for my tastes, were the real stars that generation. I was big on experimental or alternative games then as I am now and I got more of my genres of choosing on those systems.

2010 was also when Super Street Fighter IV came out and I played that dozens of hours.

The generation had a few good games but the momentum quickly dried up for a Japanese game fan. So maybe you're right and I'm remembering things wrong. I remember enjoying early generation then mid or late and by late I had mostly shifted to digital only besides the occasional game like Musou, Saints Row The Third, or GTAV. Even then, I look upon games like Spelunky, Hard Corps Uprising, and Bionic Commando Rearmed more fondly than retail.

Besides Street Fighter, my most fond console memory last gen was actually on the Wii because of Mario Galaxy.

Last generation made me a lapsed game fan. Still am outside of fighting games and mobile. Some games on ps4 look good. I bought a ps4 for fighting games and Japanese game support (mostly jrpgs but also Shenmue III) and nothing else.

I guess the heart of the matter is that I have specific tastes (mostly for Japanese games) that were not filled last gen. The fact it took so long and that Japan had no idea what they were doing made things tedious. One fuck up after the other last generation was.

[Mods Help]

On topic.

Also saying that 32 bit and 64 generation was the worst generation makes no sense because they literally built the foundation for which gaming sits upon now.

I've never seen anyone give a credible reason why that generation deserved the label of the worst generstion beyond graphics. Ideas, game design, diversity in genres, loads of experimentation. It was a crazy time to be a game fan because things were moving so fast and everyone was trying to figure out how to work 3d and everyone had their own artistic spin and interpretation of 3d and what it meant. It's a far cry from the homogeneity of today's video games and it speaks to gamings lack of real legitimacy as a medium that people call it the worst generation because of shallow things like graphics. It's like a film fan saying Metropolis sucks because it's a silent film and in black and white. That's how shallow most game fans are.

A lot of the games during that generation are still really good depending on your taste. If you want a specific game for the psx I'm pretty sure I can name several suggestions that are still good.

[tiesto]

There was an insane amount of quality games in the 32/64 bit era, granted a lot of the open-world 3D titles don't hold up nearly as well but people act like that was all there was. You still had a ton of great RPGs, 2D/2.5D action games, adventures, and offbeat titles that still hold up. Even the racing games from that generation, while they look dated, are still among the best in class.

I think last gen was the worst, for many of the reasons Mods Help mentioned above. For my tastes it was mostly a wasteland... DS and PSP offered some relief, and Nintendo's first party titles were much better than the Cube gen (except in the case of Smash) but what made things work was the consistent narrative of how "Japanese games suck" and hearing ad-nauseum how some scripted, linear cover shooter was the best game ever. Thankfully, people have become a bit less negative towards Japanese games and the devs there seem more willing to support the PS4 and PC and realizing that westerners who buy their games do it in spite of their "foreignness".

[Mods Help]

3d racing games of that era in some cases still look aesthetically pleasing in the case of Wipeout XL, Initial D, and RR4 while offering an experience you don't find on today's systems. I mean, what's a good racing game on today's systems besides Forza?

Remember when RE5 came out and people were losing their shit because the controls were different from Dead Space when it was going for a completely different experience? That's the hallmark of last gen and why it was dog shit. Now every and most games play the same, have the same controls, and there's little flavor or variety. Most games don't seem to have their own identity. There's no room for expressing your own unique control scheme to account for a unique game experience in today's games. Let's make everything play the same.

Worst game generation of all time. This generation could be better by the hopeful rebound of Japanese games leading to more variety, and the more prolific abundance of indie titles (The Witness) and alternative games (Life Is Strange). This generation gives hope of undoing last gens pitfalls and enhancing on the few things it DID do well.

[The Legend of Sunblade]

I agree on last gen being the worst,  but only with the caveat that it's the "worst" among really good generations. I can only fault single platform output (Nintendo ones, mostly) but not games released as a whole. I've enjoyed every generation,  this one included,  for wildly different reasons.

I love the ps1's library. Tons of weird, experimental games that house some of my all time favorites.

[Positive Touch]

saying this gen sucks is a big stretch.  western big budget games have already been moving away from shallow filler content recently. the Era of ubi knockoffs is over. and like you said, indie games (on consoles / steam and on phones) have huge variety. it's also easier than ever to play international games, from Japan and elsewhere.

as for why i said late 90s gaming was the worst, I've compared it to the late 80s before in that there was lots of classic games but overall they tended to have rough implementation and were  hampered by trash technology. in both cases the following gen refined their ideas while still keeping the creative streaks going, and has massively better tech to boot.

i mean the problems with psx were way worse than just fugly graphics. in particular load times were a serious problem with nearly all games. say what you will about a filler quest but is take a game with that bullshit over a game that has 10-20 second loading screens all over the fucking place.

it was a good foundation for future games but there's tons of big rough spots in most games from that Era. thankfully i will say emulation has helped out A TON with fixing a lot of the problems with those games.

[archie4208]

Someone do a Dreamcast one pls

That should only take about 10 minutes.   

[demi]

Good video to look for ideas on what to buy on ebay

[thisismyusername]

The Wii's joke catalog doesn't undo the bangers that came out on 360 and PS3

I know of the word "generation." But if you're going to say the PSX era was bad, then you'd have to throw in the N64's catalogue which was decent/great as the Playstation's and Saturn had decent arcade ports with the RAM expansion.

The 32-bit era was pretty solid all around. X-box 360/PS3 only had like... Halo 3, Uncharted 2, and a bunch of multiplatforms but didn't really "excite" titillate on the level of the 32-bit generation.

Playstation leading for two generations meant that obviously in the video it's going to have a bunch of garbage releases, same as the Wii.

[Positive Touch]

while I'm thinking on it, here's some common complaints from late 90s games :

compete lack of difficulty
lots of bloat to to extend game length
unnecessary story tacked on, usually with unskippable cutscenes
poor camera
tacked-on rpg shit into everything
other shit i forgot but I'm bored of writing

[Rufus]

while I'm thinking on it, here's some common complaints from late 90s games :

compete lack of difficulty
lots of bloat to to extend game length
unnecessary story tacked on, usually with unskippable cutscenes
poor camera
tacked-on rpg shit into everything
other shit i forgot but I'm bored of writing

All of which proved to be enduring trends, with the exception of shit cameras maybe.

[Positive Touch]

N64 HAVING A GOOD A LIBRARY AS PS1 LOLOLOL TROLL DETECTED

[Positive Touch]

while I'm thinking on it, here's some common complaints from late 90s games :

compete lack of difficulty
lots of bloat to to extend game length
unnecessary story tacked on, usually with unskippable cutscenes
poor camera
tacked-on rpg shit into everything
other shit i forgot but I'm bored of writing

All of which proved to be enduring trends, with the exception of shit cameras maybe.

eh I'd argue not. bloat came back hard obviously, but everything else changed for the better. difficulty levels came back and devs weren't afraid to challenge players anymore ; story scenes are almost always skippable and bit every game includes them anymore ; rpg shit stayed but is much better implemented.

[Rufus]

It went on a good while like that, is what I mean. Bloat and RPG shit are still with us though, yeah. These days though, the variety is just staggering so you can probably find examples for every point on the list.

[CatsCatsCats]

You can't say the generation with the 360 sucked, gtfo with that shit. Xbl as it flourished on the 360 makes that generation worth it alone. Don't sink the whole generation just because Nintendo fell off

[Mods Help]

saying this gen sucks is a big stretch.  western big budget games have already been moving away from shallow filler content recently. the Era of ubi knockoffs is over. and like you said, indie games (on consoles / steam and on phones) have huge variety. it's also easier than ever to play international games, from Japan and elsewhere.

as for why i said late 90s gaming was the worst, I've compared it to the late 80s before in that there was lots of classic games but overall they tended to have rough implementation and were  hampered by trash technology. in both cases the following gen refined their ideas while still keeping the creative streaks going, and has massively better tech to boot.

i mean the problems with psx were way worse than just fugly graphics. in particular load times were a serious problem with nearly all games. say what you will about a filler quest but is take a game with that bullshit over a game that has 10-20 second loading screens all over the fucking place.

it was a good foundation for future games but there's tons of big rough spots in most games from that Era. thankfully i will say emulation has helped out A TON with fixing a lot of the problems with those games.

I didn't say this gen sucks. I said it has the potential to be the opposite.

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

How the fuck were there so many fishing games on it?

and billiards, and bowling. Who the shit buys multiple bowling/pool/fishing games?

(looks at shelf that contains multiple Wii fishing games)
ummm... never mind.

Been watching this in a few minute chunks for the last couple of days. I love this video, I've been discovering so many games I never heard of and still don't want to play, but I enjoy the finding out about.

[Mods Help]

while I'm thinking on it, here's some common complaints from late 90s games :

compete lack of difficulty
lots of bloat to to extend game length
unnecessary story tacked on, usually with unskippable cutscenes
poor camera
tacked-on rpg shit into everything
other shit i forgot but I'm bored of writing

Late 90's having a complete lack of difficulty? You sure about that? Saturn games definitely had difficulty. Panzer Dragoon isn't hard? Metal Slug? Fighting games blew up with tons and tons of sub systems. 3d platformers were a bit easier, but there are lots of 2d games in that era that were hard as shit. Alundra? FFT was moderately difficult. Even games like Crash were bonkers. Jet Moto? Games had  a complete lack of difficulty? Which ones? That's a statement you'll have to back up with evidence.

Bloat extension depends on the game. MGS1 definitely extended the game, but it wasn't too bad. This also ties into story games. Story games by their nature are going to extend game length via bloat. But honestly, being fine with today's games and calling the late 90's full of bloat is Late 90's were still during when arcade games were still being regularly made.

Which games had unnecessary story? Cutscenes were unskippable, but saying the late 90's had a story problem compared to today is Late 90's struck a pretty good balance. Now every game has to have some sort of story. Also, to be honest, I've never known you like non-story based games. Most of the games you've ever raved about are story-based games. I've never known you to be a big fan of arcade games. So if you're playing nothing but story games in the late 90's that's going to color your opinion.

Poor camera is fair, but also dependent on what games you're playing.

Tacked on RPG mechanics didn't really blow until the ps2 around San Andreas/SSX3. so saying this is a problem with the late 90's makes no sense. Last generation took it even further.

You can't say the generation with the 360 sucked, gtfo with that shit. Xbl as it flourished on the 360 makes that generation worth it alone. Don't sink the whole generation just because Nintendo fell off

Nah, the generation was trash, a couple of good games aside.

[Mods Help]

The lack of difficulty thing is the most puzzling because PS1/Saturn/N64/DC had a massive amount of hard games.

But somehow today's games get off scot free?

All this makes me do is question what the hell games during that era did you even play? It's not like SNES wasn't less difficult than NES games either, and that generation is definitely on par with SNES in terms of difficulty.

[CatsCatsCats]

No ur trash

[Great Rumbler]

while I'm thinking on it, here's some common complaints from late 90s games :

compete lack of difficulty
lots of bloat to to extend game length
unnecessary story tacked on, usually with unskippable cutscenes
poor camera
tacked-on rpg shit into everything
other shit i forgot but I'm bored of writing

PS1 games covered in jaggies.

[tiesto]

Yeah, and what PS1 era games had bloat? Aside from DQ7 of course. But I've played a large variety of RPGs and adventure games during the era, the genres most susceptible to bloat, and running times generally weren't that much longer than similar games on the SNES (a bit more if you account for load times and 3D environments being a bit more time-consuming to navigate than 2D ones). PS2 era was where the bloat started to get more noticeable, and it's only gotten worse.

If I had more time on my hands I could pick a selection of different games from the different eras and run them through howlongtobeat.com.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

N64 HAVING A GOOD A LIBRARY AS PS1 LOLOLOL TROLL DETECTED

this. holy shit.

[Positive Touch]

mh I'm not saying those were my complaints or that they're complaints relative to today's games. I'm saying those were common complaints at the time. you know, the shit you'd see all over message boards back then.

[benjipwns]

The best parts are the two minute montages that include FIFA, Madden, NBA Live, NBA ShootOut and NFL GameDay not changing in any visible way after the '99 games. (Pretty sure they skipped some NHL games for which the same would be true. Will ask YouTube for refund.)

Also the fact that there was a Madden NFL 2005 on the PS1. Madden 06 was the first 360 version!

[Mods Help]

mh I'm not saying those were my complaints or that they're complaints relative to today's games. I'm saying those were common complaints at the time. you know, the shit you'd see all over message boards back then.

Message boards back then said FFVII sucked because it wasn't FFIII.

Message boards back then were batshit.

[Positive Touch]

yes

[benjipwns]

Message boards back then didn't have careful moderation to ensure they were neutral grounds where facts and evidence, presented within the confines of civil, inclusive discourse, prevailed.

[Mods Help]

Message boards now are completely rational!

[Mods Help]

another thing to consider is that some of these views have existed even before the 32 bit era. That doesn't make them true.

some kid made fun of me in elementary for liking sonic because it's not as hard as mega man and that today's games (16 bit) were too easy

i think the "today's games are too easy" thing only started to have legitimacy last generation. that was when developers started to coddle players en masse and games like ninja gaiden 2 or dark souls or whatever hard game like that would be a rarity. which is partly why dark souls took off in the first place because it was one of the few games where the developers actually respected the player's common sense and ability to adapt.

[Mr. Nobody]

Good video to look for ideas on what to extract from this complete Redump download