Game of Thrones Season 6 Thread "I choose violence"

[TakingBackSunday]

Ehh

Domestic abuse isn't really funny

[Kara]

Via IO9:

• Fun fact: The three major deaths of the Red Wedding were, in order: 1) Robb’s direwolf Grey Wind, shot by crossbows; 2) Robb, stabbed in the gut by Roose Bolton; and 3) Catelyn, whose throat was slit by a Frey. The three major instigators of the Red Wedding were Tywin Lannister, Roose Bolton and Walder Frey, who died in consecutive order by crossbow bolts, a knife to the gut, and a slit throat. Someone noted this in the comments in a previous recap, but I can’t find it so my apologies for not being able to properly credit you.

DEEPEST LORE

We also have the War of the 6.02 * 10 ^ 23 Kings again except with queens now. (Jon Yellowsnow filling the token gender swap role previously held by Dany.)

Has Jon declared his gender identity? Check your privilege.
 

Technically I believe I was being a gross shitlord instead of being blinded by my privilege there. I will consult the cabal to immanentize the genderfluid dry pegging dystopia for clarification on this matter.

[TVC15]

Via IO9:

• Fun fact: The three major deaths of the Red Wedding were, in order: 1) Robb’s direwolf Grey Wind, shot by crossbows; 2) Robb, stabbed in the gut by Roose Bolton; and 3) Catelyn, whose throat was slit by a Frey. The three major instigators of the Red Wedding were Tywin Lannister, Roose Bolton and Walder Frey, who died in consecutive order by crossbow bolts, a knife to the gut, and a slit throat. Someone noted this in the comments in a previous recap, but I can’t find it so my apologies for not being able to properly credit you.

DEEPEST LORE

We also have the War of the 6.02 * 10 ^ 23 Kings again except with queens now. (Jon Yellowsnow filling the token gender swap role previously held by Dany.)

Has Jon declared his gender identity? Check your privilege.
 

The show is going to reveal that Lady Stonehart is just Jon's drag persona.

[Tasty]

Via IO9:

• Fun fact: The three major deaths of the Red Wedding were, in order: 1) Robb’s direwolf Grey Wind, shot by crossbows; 2) Robb, stabbed in the gut by Roose Bolton; and 3) Catelyn, whose throat was slit by a Frey. The three major instigators of the Red Wedding were Tywin Lannister, Roose Bolton and Walder Frey, who died in consecutive order by crossbow bolts, a knife to the gut, and a slit throat. Someone noted this in the comments in a previous recap, but I can’t find it so my apologies for not being able to properly credit you.

DEEPEST LORE

We also have the War of the 6.02 * 10 ^ 23 Kings again except with queens now. (Jon Yellowsnow filling the token gender swap role previously held by Dany.)

Has Jon declared his gender identity? Check your privilege.
 

The show is going to reveal that Lady Stonehart is just Jon's drag persona.

[toku]

[Tasty]

[Dennis]

Good season finale. But probably not in my Top 3 episodes so I am a little surprised the internet loves it so much.

In a way some of the tension should logically be out now.

Dany and a huge army on the way to Westeros with dragons and all. Jon is King in The North. With a Dany and Jon alliance in incestious marriage everything will be ready to sweep Cersei aside and then take care of those pesky White Walkers.

Shows seems like it could be wrapped up in a couple of episodes.

[El Babua]

Internet loves shit exploding

Good episode tho.

[helios]

 

[Dennis]

[Phoenix Dark]

tbh in hindsight the Frey pie thing felt very forced/stupid. How did she carve up his sons and bake a pie, unless she killed some cooks to get access to it. And Frey being alone in the great hall just makes it even more convenient.

Where did Arya get the face? Did she take it from the House Of Black and White (makes the most sense)? Given she never reached the training to use a face I'm not sure. Just seemed like they wanted to include Frey pies so they shoehorned it.

[TVC15]

I was wondering where Arya learned to bake. That was like the most unbelievable part of the scene to me. That crust looked tasty and delicious and buttery. You gotta have skills to get that crust done right.

[Mandark]

I was wondering where Arya learned to bake. That was like the most unbelievable part of the scene to me. That crust looked tasty and delicious and buttery. You gotta have skills to get that crust done right.

Woulda been the perfect time for a Hot Pie cameo.

[El Babua]

The logistics of the whole thing, assassin face or not is pretty suspect.

I mean, even Cartman's plan to feed that kid his parents was more thought out. 

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Now I wish Radiohead came out and called Walder Frey a crybaby before he got got.

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[ZephyrFate]

tbh in hindsight the Frey pie thing felt very forced/stupid. How did she carve up his sons and bake a pie, unless she killed some cooks to get access to it. And Frey being alone in the great hall just makes it even more convenient.

Where did Arya get the face? Did she take it from the House Of Black and White (makes the most sense)? Given she never reached the training to use a face I'm not sure. Just seemed like they wanted to include Frey pies so they shoehorned it.

We could easily explain the face part by the fact that Arya had... a lot of time in the House of Black and White until Jaqen found her. Enough to carve up the Waif and put her face on the wall. It's likely she stole more than a few faces to don for her Kill Bill list.

As far as the baking... perhaps her time with Hot Pie off-screen, or things she witnessed back at Winterfell when she was younger?

[Cerveza mas fina]

You know people know how to makr food not everyone lives off taco bell you splergs

[brawndolicious]

You know people know how to makr food not everyone lives off taco bell you splergs

pssh no that's unrealistic for a high-born girl. I haven't once heard a woman in the show brag about her cooking skills.

She probably went to the kitchen, sawed them up a bit, and stuffed the bits into a meat pie that was already sitting around.

That's realistic. And how I'd do it. 

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And the servant girl face looked too dark to be a Frey. Probably just stole it it from the temple in Bravos.

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Unfortunately her real butt got molested.

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[TVC15]

You know people know how to makr food not everyone lives off taco bell you splergs

But Arya was portrayed as a tomboy back in Winterfell, the only time she could have picked up this skill. Arya is definitely a Frito burrito girl, not a baking shit girl.

[Phoenix Dark]

[TVC15]

How long was she in Harrenhal with Hot Pie?

Someone get a screen grab of the Frey pie. We need it to judge the skill necessary to create it.

[Kara]

How long was she in Harrenhal with Hot Pie?

Someone get a screen grab of the Frey pie. We need it to judge the skill necessary to create it.

http://i.imgur.com/RoGCmIc.jpg

[I'm a Puppy!]

OK you GRMM nerds. 'splain Arya now. So is she a faceless man now and Jaqen was trying to get her to understand her "role" or is it just bad writing?

edit: I also love the contrived whole "oh noes! I threw away a man that loves me!" I'm like "Bitch, you're young, hot, blonde, rich and a ruler. Why does it even register?"

[archnemesis]

Isn't she just a rogue assassin out for vengeance? She fought her way loose from the grasp of the temple of the many-faced god. They are probably not that interested in a servant who is unwilling to serve.

[I'm a Puppy!]

I've heard many theories:
-She's Rogue and they don't care because she's got potential to do a lot of killing
-Jaqen was trying to teach her that she needed to be Sansa after all for her to be the most use to the faceless men
-Jaqen let her go as he felt a name was still owed
-The waif was a figment of Arya's imagination instilled in her by Jaqen to teach her. (lol)
-Just bad writing

My money's on the last one. But I'm willing to be wrong.

[CatsCatsCats]

I think the point was he knew A Girl would always be Arya Stark, and the faceless God doesn't give a shit as long as folks keep dyin. He maybe even sent the Waif to her death, or was indifferent in how the conflict between the waif and Arya resolved.

[fistfulofmetal]

I saw it as Arya earning her life after surviving the assassination attempt by the waif. It wasn't an official hit so she didn't NEED to die. Jaquen was like, well you managed to survive so I guess you can go.

Now she's got her training and her list stuff.

[Human Snorenado]

I think it's a combination of the first and last options. The writing for Arya's arc suffered this season, for sure.

Still, though- she fed Walder Frey his sons and cut his throat, and will probably keep fucking shit up next season, so do I care if I suffered through some dumb writing to get to this point? Not really. At least the show made me suffer through far less dumb writing than GURM will.

[Kara]

I think the point was he knew A Girl would always be Arya Stark, and the faceless God doesn't give a shit as long as folks keep dyin. He maybe even sent the Waif to her death, or was indifferent in how the conflict between the waif and Arya resolved.

The Many-Faced God is no Khorne, broseph.

[Phoenix Dark]

Given all the (cool) show theories about Arya turned out to be false, I'm going to assume it's just bad writing. You know it's bad when you've got to come up with theories because the only other option is "this shit is trash bro." Let's not forget Arya knew the greatest assassins in the world were looking for her yet decided to waltz around town without a care in the world. Then got stabbed in the gut multiple times (including a twisting cut), jumped in dirty water, was nearly completely healed by medieval-tier stitches, AND went on a foot chase without her guts falling out.

 

And...if she had access to faces, why wasn't she rocking one in Braavos to ensure the Waif couldn't find her? 

[Human Snorenado]

I agree with everything you just posted PD, but it's pretty easy to assume that she only took some faces after she put the Waif's on display before talking to Jaqen. Having access to faces is like the least worrisome aspect to the whole Arya suddenly being at the Twins twist.

[TVC15]

Given all the (cool) show theories about Arya turned out to be false, I'm going to assume it's just bad writing.

I just assume that the outline George provided to the showrunners looked like "Arya goes to Braavos and trains with the assassins and yada yada yada she goes back to Westeros" and they had to make up a bunch of nonsense.

[Mandark]

I agree with everything you just posted PD, but it's pretty easy to assume that she only took some faces after she put the Waif's on display before talking to Jaqen. Having access to faces is like the least worrisome aspect to the whole Arya suddenly being at the Twins twist.

Yeah, once it became clear she wasn't going to get a letter of recommendation from that unpaid internship, that's when she decided to steal a ton of office supplies.

[Phoenix Dark]

Agreed TVC, I can't shake the idea that Martin didn't give them as much details as I had originally assumed. Like with the Sam arc, which doesn't go as far as it does in the books. Maybe Martin hasn't revealed what happens next for Sam, thus they ended it abruptly.

Likewise when you think about it a lot of the show arcs seem like they ended before they'll end in Winds. Cersei's trial will presumably happen quite early in Dance, Stannis is poised to win the northern battles early, Arya attending the theater play is her first Winds chapter, etc. In short it seems like Winds is going to lap multiple S6 arcs...

...if it comes out before S7

[Tasty]

http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/28/12047644/game-of-thrones-maps-season-six-travel-plot-holes-time-warps

[toku]

Agreed TVC, I can't shake the idea that Martin didn't give them as much details as I had originally assumed. Like with the Sam arc, which doesn't go as far as it does in the books. Maybe Martin hasn't revealed what happens next for Sam, thus they ended it abruptly.

Likewise when you think about it a lot of the show arcs seem like they ended before they'll end in Winds. Cersei's trial will presumably happen quite early in Dance, Stannis is poised to win the northern battles early, Arya attending the theater play is her first Winds chapter, etc. In short it seems like Winds is going to lap multiple S6 arcs...

...if it comes out before S7

I hear Frank Ocean is also recording a new album

[Kara]

Y'all need to chill and enjoy the #spectacle.

This show has exactly 2 things going for it: murder and revenge. The Arya scene had both of those things! And forced cannibalism on top of that! Who cares if it makes no bloody sense, this show has dragons AND zombies. The only illogical thing was a Stark succeeding at something, and frankly this season has made that an unfortunate staple of the show now.

Do y'all really want to turn into me and write posts detailing relations of production in Essos. (q.v. itt)

[toku]

Honestly my biggst disappointment with the episode is the fact they didn't show us Tommen's broken corpse.

[TVC15]

Honestly my biggst disappointment with the episode is the fact they didn't show us Tommen's broken corpse.

They should have showed us more shots of inside the Sept as the explosion was happening. I wanted to see people dissolving, having their skin burn off, getting dismembered by shit flying everywhere, getting crushed, etc. I think the only major character we got a death shot of was the High Sparrow, and even that was tame.

[Phoenix Dark]

Honestly my biggst disappointment with the episode is the fact they didn't show us Tommen's broken corpse.

They should have showed us more shots of inside the Sept as the explosion was happening. I wanted to see people dissolving, having their skin burn off, getting dismembered by shit flying everywhere, getting crushed, etc. I think the only major character we got a death shot of was the High Sparrow, and even that was tame.

I was watching Starship Troopers yesterday and was thinking this, when the bug was dissolving people with hot fiyah.

[fistfulofmetal]

I can see Jaquen showing up in Old Town midway through next season to do something. Wasn't that where he is in the books? I could barely follow that plot when I was reading it.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Uuh you think they will wrap this up in 13 episodes? ok

[Phoenix Dark]

I can see Jaquen showing up in Old Town midway through next season to do something. Wasn't that where he is in the books? I could barely follow that plot when I was reading it.

I'll spoiler tag since it might happen in S7

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He's in the Citadel with Sam in the books.

He kills a Citadel novice in order to steal a key that opens the deepest vaults in there. Presumably to acquire the Death Of Dragons book. I don't think it's a coincidence that he was initially on his way to the Wall in ACOK/S2; iirc there's a similar book in the Wall's library.

Given that the FM were founded by Valaryian slaves, and the FM may have had something to do with the fall of Valaryia, it would make sense for them to want to kill Dany or her dragons.

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[CatsCatsCats]

Idk, I think it would be just fine. This season it seemed like they moved plot a lot every episode, and it made it one of the best seasons imo

[Phoenix Dark]

Yea if 7 episodes ensures that the quality looks more like ep9/10 this season instead of...well, most of the rest of the season then it's a great idea.

[fistfulofmetal]

I should re-read the series. With my vague memory plus the show to help my knowledge retention I may actually get more out of them this time.

[fistfulofmetal]

Like I had barely any idea what was happening in the last book with the second sons or the golden company or what Tyrion was doing or Varys. fuck.

[fistfulofmetal]

then again fat pink mast tho 

[toku]

Uuh you think they will wrap this up in 13 episodes? ok

I mean what else is there that needs to happen? Everyones going to be on westeros or on their way there by ep 1 season 7. It's pretty much fighting, burning and final chess moves from here on out.

/winterishere

[helios]

[Human Snorenado]

[Dennis]

[ZephyrFate]

Definitely far dumber writing in the show than any low point in the books, which is absolute fact; though I can't imagine the Red Septing being as awesome in the books as it was in the show, cuz damn.

[Phoenix Dark]

wouldn't that be...the Green Septing?

[ZephyrFate]

Hm. I suppose so. Just trying to pair it up thematically with it being the largest massacre since the RW.

[meeb]

"I choose violence" is such a good line. Cersei the FUCKING QUEEEEEEN. <3

[Kara]

https://twitter.com/keewa/status/747928622107889664

 

[seagrams hotsauce]

[toku]

[eleuin]

s7 directors announced

No Miguel but at least Alan Taylor is back

Mark Mylod is too though  :'(

[Phoenix Dark]