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Re: The United Kingdom's 100 year plan? Failed. America Was Always Great
« Reply #61 on: June 24, 2016, 05:59:05 AM »
Hmm, prices on a few items on my uk boutique buy list have gone down by a few hundo... Gottagofast  :doge
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it will never not be hilarious to me that the western countries that invaded and fucked with basically every damn place on earth are now constantly whining about immigration. i mean the inevitable violence that'll be happening down the road is gonna suck, but til then i just gotta laugh at how unbelievably fucking stupid these people are.
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I haven't been following this since 1) I'm not British and 2) Not part of Europe, so: Explain to me, what is the pros/cons of them leaving?
You sure you're not British?

 ::) Thank you for actually explaining, PD. ::)

Found this over on GAF: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/06/american-idiots-guide-to-brexit.html

Quote from: Did something profoundly awful happen last week that could ostensibly impact Thursday’s vote?
Yes. Jo Cox, a member of Parliament, was assassinated. Cox was a member of the Labour Party and wanted Britain to remain in the EU. When her killer was asked to identify himself in court, he answered, “My name is death to traitors, freedom for Britain.” No one knows how this will impact Thursday’s vote. But it seems possible that it will influence it in some way.

Makes sense. Failing economy and terrorism would affect the vote pretty badly. It's why while a lot of GAF was laughing about Trump, I was fearful he's gonna win.

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https://twitter.com/djlogansama/status/746266106399170560

the french people love eating cake get it :smug

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The hardest part is going to be figuring out trade deals with the other EU countries since they officially only have two years to do that but the Leave campaign wants to draw it out for longer. Doesn't look like the EU member states are keen on dragging it out for one day longer than what Britain is allowed. They pissed.

The thing is with Scotland leaving, you're left with a larger majority in the UK that want to leave and of course it's those who are retired and/or uneducated who mostly wanted to leave so impact to the economy/exports is not something they might pay as much attention to. I don't know what this means in the long term but global companies like car manufacturers are going to have time to move part of their manufacturing to Europe since exporting something like a car with its low margins is going to be stupidly expensive. Well I mean unless you're Aston Martin.

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I can't fathom how anyone middle class or above would vote to dissolve their investments over a few fucking immigrants. I wonder what the long con is here? East end jealous of Brussels? That's my bet.
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There's a lot of financially ignorant folks in the middle class as well.

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There's a lot of financially ignorant folks in the middle class as well.

Apparently.

I get it, there are terrorists. I understand shit is bad right now. But i'll be goddamned if I piss away 1/2 my net worth about it. Seems....so ludicrous that people would do this.

Trumph politics ain't going away I guess  :snoop
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I can't fathom how anyone middle class or above would vote to dissolve their investments over a few fucking immigrants. I wonder what the long con is here? East end jealous of Brussels? That's my bet.

Going to be some great deals on homes in Costa del Sol and the south of France. :aah

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I can't fathom how anyone middle class or above would vote to dissolve their investments over a few fucking immigrants. I wonder what the long con is here? East end jealous of Brussels? That's my bet.

Going to be some great deals on homes in Costa del Sol and the south of France. :aah

Gonna be able to get a flat on the Thames for 500 dollars a month :aah
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51.9% vs 48.1%

That's not "the country" but the tiniest majority country is split as fuck and polarized.

That's the democratic rules, will of the majority is the will of the country. Not ideal but it's still the less bad option. :yeshrug Still better than doing two referendums or ignoring a "No" majority vote :neogaf

This is why Canada has the clarity act, after Quebec's last referendum where they decided to stay by like 1%

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https://twitter.com/djlogansama/status/746266106399170560

the french people love eating cake get it :smug

Logan-sama and I used to talk a lot on an old UK Garage message board before he blew up. Guy was pretty big fan of American football and the FF series iirc.
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Jeremy Corbyn, campaigned half-heartedly for Remain and the party’s leaders were forced to confront their abandonment by English working-class voters fired up by Leave’s message of anti-globalisation and haul-up-the-drawbridge nativism.

I know I get what I'm asking for by reading The Econymist (today of all days), but how that rag has the temerity to talk about abandoning the proletariat is beyond me.

e: @Kosma http://www.economist.com/news/business-and-finance/21701334-after-post-vote-turmoil-international-banks-will-have-think-about-their?fsrc=permar|image2

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Jeremy Corbyn, campaigned half-heartedly for Remain and the party’s leaders were forced to confront their abandonment by English working-class voters fired up by Leave’s message of anti-globalisation and haul-up-the-drawbridge nativism.

I know I get what I'm asking for by reading The Econymist (today of all days), but how that rag has the temerity to talk about abandoning the proletariat is beyond me.

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I read it wrong, anyway. It was voters abandoning, not the party. :-[

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I read it wrong, anyway. It was voters abandoning, not the party. :-[

At this point the "remain" party is currently about as viable as libertarians. Both are dead in hotel rooms......
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Honestly the whole time I was like, "lol yeah right this is gonna happen. Eviscerate your economy? Remove yourself from one of the most power trading agreements in the history of mankind? hah! That's rich!"

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Is it? When your country is in shock and the pound is falling do you step down and cause more panic?

Well, Cameron initiated the Poll to shut down party intern people who were in favor of the brexit. It really is the logical thing to do.
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Leaving the European Union seems like something the New York Knicks would do in exchange for draft picks they would throw away.
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Is it? When your country is in shock and the pound is falling do you step down and cause more panic?

I know this is from a page ago or whatever, but here's how it works:

When you engage in a political pissing contest with Boris Johnson and some twit named Nigel and LOSE, you're done for. So yes, he had to resign.
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Cameron :neogaf

Destroy the economy in order to (temporarily) save your job brehs.
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Get bamboozled by a moron with bad hair, brehs.
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the government can just ignore the results, it's not binding on parliament

there was already talk about doing a "negotiation" with the EU and then having a second referendum to confirm it before invoking article 50

blue is leave, yellow is stay:
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Not even sure what's to "negotiate" - didn't the UK have pretty much buffet-membership in the EU?

I haven't really been paying attention but were they beholden to the rest of the EU's immigration policies? Never got the sense the Leave side had any specific policy grievances, it was just a guttural OOOYYYY
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Get bamboozled by a moron with bad hair, brehs.
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In other news, just ordered a years worth of contacts from the UK for super cheap
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In other news, just ordered a years worth of contacts from the UK for super cheap

I pulled the trigger on a megadrive synthesizer vst as well.

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Is there an absinthe that would be good to import from UK? :lol

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Re: The United Kingdom's 100 year plan? Failed. America Was Always Greater
« Reply #100 on: June 24, 2016, 02:55:26 PM »
51.9% vs 48.1%

That's not "the country" but the tiniest majority country is split as fuck and polarized.

That's the democratic rules, will of the majority is the will of the country. Not ideal but it's still the less bad option. :yeshrug Still better than doing two referendums or ignoring a "No" majority vote :neogaf

This is why Canada has the clarity act, after Quebec's last referendum where they decided to stay by like 1%
was actually just reading about that; didn't know Bill Clinton had an effect that's kinda cool
wonder if he met any Canadian secretaries on parliament hill while he was here
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Re: The United Kingdom's 100 year plan? Failed. America Was Always Greater
« Reply #101 on: June 24, 2016, 03:14:29 PM »
:drudge KARA

Is there an absinthe that would be good to import from UK? :lol

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The EUR exchange rate is still better than the GBP one, unless it's something exclusively British or something you don't want to overvalue arbitrage on*, or something with wacky regional pricing, you're better off with EUR purchases (excluding taxes and duties, natch). The only UK origin absinthe I know of isn't worth the effort.

*I've bought contact lenses from Romania or a place similarly confidence eroding with no issue, though I can understand not everyone is willing to make jumps like that.

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Re: The United Kingdom's 100 year plan? Failed. America Was Always Greater
« Reply #102 on: June 24, 2016, 03:35:24 PM »
If the GBP continues to be low against the dollar, I might book a brief week vacation out there in September.
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Re: The United Kingdom's 100 year plan? Failed. America Was Always Greater
« Reply #103 on: June 24, 2016, 03:36:58 PM »
Leaving the European Union seems like something the New York Knicks would do in exchange for draft picks they would throw away.

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Re: The United Kingdom's 100 year plan? Failed. America Was Always Greater
« Reply #104 on: June 24, 2016, 03:38:32 PM »
If the GBP continues to be low against the dollar, I might book a brief week vacation out there in September.

Mark my word. You have 8 weeks to do that. It's not gonna be down forever.

I'm all in on Barclays myself. Made that plunge today.
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Re: The United Kingdom's 100 year plan? Failed. America Was Always Greater
« Reply #105 on: June 24, 2016, 03:38:48 PM »
Well thanks for the reply, bromigo! Yeah, I sorta figured all the great absinthes would be French or summit

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Re: The United Kingdom's 100 year plan? Failed. America Was Always Greater
« Reply #106 on: June 24, 2016, 03:48:06 PM »
If the GBP continues to be low against the dollar, I might book a brief week vacation out there in September.

Mark my word. You have 8 weeks to do that. It's not gonna be down forever.

I'm all in on Barclays myself. Made that plunge today.

Going to book it this weekend.  Also thanks for the Barclays idea.  I do expect the GBP and stocks to rebound so this is a way to make some nice change.
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Re: The United Kingdom's 100 year plan? Failed. America Was Always Greater
« Reply #107 on: June 24, 2016, 03:49:25 PM »
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Jeremy Corbyn, campaigned half-heartedly for Remain and the party’s leaders were forced to confront their abandonment by English working-class voters fired up by Leave’s message of anti-globalisation and haul-up-the-drawbridge nativism.

I know I get what I'm asking for by reading The Econymist (today of all days), but how that rag has the temerity to talk about abandoning the proletariat is beyond me.

e: @Kosma http://www.economist.com/news/business-and-finance/21701334-after-post-vote-turmoil-international-banks-will-have-think-about-their?fsrc=permar|image2

thanks for that link kara

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Re: The United Kingdom's 100 year plan? Failed. America Was Always Greater
« Reply #108 on: June 24, 2016, 04:00:28 PM »

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Re: The United Kingdom's 100 year plan? Failed. America Was Always Greater
« Reply #109 on: June 24, 2016, 04:10:45 PM »
https://twitter.com/Alconcalcia/status/746363158034550784



Welp

Here's what those initials mean:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NRS_social_grade

Basically, pensioners and otherwise economically vulnerable or dependent people voted Leave.

So, uh, maybe don't let these demographics grow too much. Or don't promise them referendums. Whoopsie.
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Re: The United Kingdom's 100 year plan? Failed. America Was Always Greater
« Reply #110 on: June 24, 2016, 04:45:40 PM »
So old poor folks scapegoated the EU for their woes or?

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Re: The United Kingdom's 100 year plan? Failed. America Was Always Greater
« Reply #111 on: June 24, 2016, 04:54:26 PM »
"Immigrants are going to take our jobs", as far as my sterling analysis (:doge) goes. Not entirely unfounded, but this isn't going away once Great Britain leaves the EU. Once you start racing to the bottom, you don't stop. Guess who's going to feel this hardest?

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Re: The United Kingdom's 100 year plan? Failed. America Was Always Greater
« Reply #113 on: June 24, 2016, 05:26:15 PM »
1 GB of free space :rofl

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Re: The United Kingdom's 100 year plan? Failed. America Was Always Greater
« Reply #114 on: June 24, 2016, 05:38:03 PM »
"Immigrants are going to take our jobs", as far as my sterling analysis (:doge) goes. Not entirely unfounded, but this isn't going away once Great Britain leaves the EU. Once you start racing to the bottom, you don't stop. Guess who's going to feel this hardest?

Basically everyone who isn't retired will be hurt by this but who can really say? I bet economics students are just splooging themselves right now.


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Re: The United Kingdom's 100 year plan? Failed. America Was Always Greater
« Reply #116 on: June 24, 2016, 10:19:38 PM »
Well thanks for the reply, bromigo! Yeah, I sorta figured all the great absinthes would be French or summit

There are some well regarded American ones, I just don't care for their herbal mixtures or find them a bit dull (though they are not "bad" like, say, Lucid).

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Re: The United Kingdom's 100 year plan? Failed. America Was Always Greater
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« Reply #118 on: June 25, 2016, 12:03:14 AM »
That might be my most-liked post, wtf. :lol

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Re: The United Kingdom's 100 year plan? Failed. America Was Always Greater
« Reply #119 on: June 25, 2016, 04:32:19 AM »
Already Scottish independence campaigners are calling for another referendum and Irish parties are calling for a United Ireland referendum.

The final days of the British Empire, brehs :doge

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