Anyone else feel like they outgrew drugs?

[Wrath2X]

Maybe this is a mistake as I'm posting in a forum full of grouchy old men, but anyone else feel like drugs are neither worth it nor really any good?

I'm not including marijuana, tobacco and alcohol in here, as they both have been accepted more or less. What I'm talking about is stuff like speed, cocaine, ecstasy, that stuff.

I recently caught up with a friend of mine who is this very reclusive person that never partied, never had sex, never really did anything resembling a habit or what we all go through in our teens and early twenties. She sorta surprised me in talking about how she does a lot of ecstasy and speed now, loves drinking and going out. Now, the drinking and going out I was like "about damn time you got over your issues" but when the whole lyrica and speed talk came about my immediate thought was "why would you do that? That's stupid, their effects are garbage anyway" but I played along because I was not looking to lecture someone I haven't talked to in three years. But man, if this was five years ago I would have been like "hell yeah!".

I used to be a heavy drug user, not too long ago either. Ecstasy, lyrica, vicodin, oxy, ambien, adderral, speed and all that were never really strangers to me. But now? I love drinking. Don't really care about weed all that much anymore, but I wouldn't turn down a joint or two, if offered and I said fuck it. LSD and shrooms is a small might as I've turned it down for the past three years. But literally everything else, even the less harmful stuff, is not anything I really want to touch.

I think back and I know that I never really liked pills or med made psychedelics save for LSD, and how as you get older you usually start dropping drugs like that. Maturity and all that. What I'm realizing is that it was actually really dumb that I sought for it, I get that I was in Saudi and boohoo crybaby depressed but it really was never worth it. I'm dealing with way bigger troubles right now than I ever did before while stuck in Saudi, yet I feel absolutely no need or want for any of it. I'd welcome a bottle or a joint at the comfort of my home but meh. Not really itching for them, either. I'll get alcohol once I finally move out of here down the line. I realized that once I was 21 and of legal drinking age, I dropped all the other shit without thinking about it.

tl;dr

I don't really get drug culture anymore and couldn't give less of a fuck about it.

So what do you guys think? Were you heavy drug users or were you too lame to hang with the cool kids?

[toku]

lol

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

About 9 years ago it came down to a good paying job or drugs.  I picked the former and never looked back.

[T-Short]

Well, I've said it before I think, never done any heavy drugs, but I don't get drunk either so

[Human Snorenado]

I mean, mostly. It's fun to occasionally do something, but it's not anything I base my life around and happens maybe a handful of times a year.

[PlayDat]

I've always been a boring rule follower.  I'm still at the age where I'm supposed to be high all the time and I do have some interest in what the experience would be like, but the urge is very easy to resist.  Unless abiding by the law causes some serious amount of harm, I'll keep following it.  I try not to preach to anyone looking to have a good time though.

If all the drugs were legalized tomorrow, I probably wouldn't do any because of a couple of neurological and digestive issues I have.  Multiple specialists have advised against alcohol because it might worsen my symptoms or interact with my medication.  One time they gave me promethazine through an IV at a hospital.  I did not enjoy a single second of it.  For a few hours, I could barely sit up straight.  They don't call it lean for nothin'.

[CatsCatsCats]

Not including weed and alcohol? Yeah, over it. Unless I get invited to an ayahuasca retreat or something. And well, I'll also include psilocybin in the exceptions because no one tests for that anyway, and it's good for a once a year brain reset -- though it's been a couple/few years for me

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Outside of good weed and good liquor? Absolutely

[chronovore]

Well, I've said it before I think, never done any heavy drugs, but I don't get drunk either so

Wait, you don't drink, or you don't get drunk? Didn't you indulge when you were over here for dinner?

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Honest to god. I did my blow, I did acid a few times(it ain't for black men), real eye bouncing E (only T234 will know), hash, etc.

Meh.

Nothing is better than a nice weed buzz and a chaser glass of scotch. Nothing.

[tiesto]

I frequently find myself in situations where tons of drugs are available and have gotten offered every illicit substance known to man, but truthfully, I never had much interest in anything beyond weed and alcohol.

[Human Snorenado]

You ain't the only one what did real good E in the mid/late 90's, old man.



I would still do it if I could get some of the really good shit we used to have access to on the regular... not frequently, shit maybe not more than once, but I would. I did some of that shit the kids call molly in 2014 and was not impressed.

I don't have the time and energy to deal with acid anymore, that's for sure. Mushrooms can still be fun- had a really intense trip last fall, and a really mellow one a couple weeks ago that consisted of floating in a pool and watching trees and clouds sway in the breeze. Peaceful af, man.

[king of the internet]

I'm over being a stoner or a regular drug user in general. It doesn't make me feel that good in the long run. But every now and then you need to escape for a weekend.

[seagrams hotsauce]

I appreciate the occasional xan and I'm probably game for acid once or twice more but for the most part I'm too fatigued by drugs to have any interest in doing them recreationally. They gave me a shot of dilauded at the er for my jaw, and that fucked my guts up for days. It also reminded me how goddamn grouchy I get on opiates and I didn't even bother taking the little bs 5mg oxywhatever prescription cuz the indigestion was worse than the jaw pain.

I did acid a few times(it ain't for black men)

A certain left-handed Seattlite begs to differ

[Phoenix Dark]

About 9 years ago it came down to a good paying job or drugs.  I picked the former and never looked back.

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smoked weed a couple times. meh

took some zannies

that's about it. that shit isn't for me.

[Stoney Mason]

Every hipster worth his salt goes through his drug phase and then gets over it.

[Tasty]

This seems pretty typical of 420 culture tbh. Heard this a lot from former "drugs or die" people.

[CatsCatsCats]

Read to OP, plz

[Tasty]

Read to OP, plz

Nah.

[T-Short]

Well, I've said it before I think, never done any heavy drugs, but I don't get drunk either so

Wait, you don't drink, or you don't get drunk? Didn't you indulge when you were over here for dinner?

Yeah, I don't have a ban on ethanol entering my face, I just limit myself. Dodgy genetics in the family.

[T234]

One can still obtain quality MDMA/pills. The Real Shit is pretty difficult to find in the U.S. though. Most of the pills pressed in the 80s and 90s that you guys are talking about had a smidgen of MDA/MDE pressed with the MDMA. They still do that for special editions in Holland.

[BrokenVerses]

No but I ended up working somewhere where I had to stop.

[Rufus]

Oxycodone has a high risk of addiction.

[Fifstar]

Kinda, I never did lots of heavy drugs, at the most about 6 times a year or so. Don't really miss it, but that's mostly because I'm just not interested in partying anymore.

If somebody I know offers me some good quality E I will still take it, because that high can hardly be beat.Hardly happens anymore though.

[bork]

So what do you guys think? Were you heavy drug users or were you too lame to hang with the cool kids?

There were no cool kids when I was in high school.  Just a bunch of preppy little douchebags.

I never did anything -nope, not even weed- and am essentially straight-edge.  I don't drink for health reasons but even after I turned 21, I'd buy stuff and just wouldn't care.



But I never thought hard/heavy drugs would be a good idea.  I can understand getting high or drunk, but not using shit that's going to really fuck you up and get you strung out.  There was a girl I liked who would talk to me about the raves she went to and how ridiculously fucked-up she would get.  It never seemed appealing to me at all.  She went to the same college as me and one day asked me to get rid of a little bag of white powder.  Literally "hey can you throw this in the dumpster chute for me?  I know it's right outside but I'd like you to do it."    That was the last time I talked to her.

[Cerveza mas fina]

My friends where def the heavy drug users that did like 10 pills on the weekend and speed and coke when going to raves or just because.

Now they are good citizens with good jobs, but some of their friends didn't turn out so well.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Ecstasy, lyrica, vicodin, oxy, ambien, adderral, speed

you know alcohol is worse than the shit you listed here, right?

You're fucking insane.

Opiod based narcotics are way worse than alcohol.

[mormapope]

Both are terrible, both usually lead people to an early grave.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

[mormapope]

Excessive alcohol use led to approximately 88,000 deaths and 2.5 million years of potential life lost (YPLL) each year in the United States from 2006 – 2010, shortening the lives of those who died by an average of 30 years.

Opiates and heroin are definitely scary boogeymen but alcohol is still the king of destroying lives.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

True

But some people can handle their alcohol and some people can't (we all know that guy)....nobody can handle heroin. It's killing an extraordinary amount of small town white people in Ohio right now. One town next to me has had 31 deaths of people between the ages of 18-29 since January. It's destroying the entire town.

[Human Snorenado]

Ecstasy, lyrica, vicodin, oxy, ambien, adderral, speed

you know alcohol is worse than the shit you listed here, right?

You're fucking insane.

Opiod based narcotics are way worse than alcohol.

Meth, too.

And mormapope- that's essentially a function of alcohol being so readily available. No prescription, no hustle needed to get any- walk into a store, show your id, exchange legal tender.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

http://thewellingtonenterprise.com/news/3317/small-town-wellington-has-big-time-drug-problem


This is why Heroin does to an entire community. Note that Wellington is a small middle to upper middle class village in the middle of nowhere that use to consider a bar fight huge town news....ugly

[Human Snorenado]

http://thewellingtonenterprise.com/news/3317/small-town-wellington-has-big-time-drug-problem


This is why Heroin does to an entire community. Note that Wellington is a small middle to upper middle class village in the middle of nowhere that use to consider a bar fight huge town news....ugly

Thanks, Obama

[Am_I_Anonymous]

http://thewellingtonenterprise.com/news/3317/small-town-wellington-has-big-time-drug-problem


This is why Heroin does to an entire community. Note that Wellington is a small middle to upper middle class village in the middle of nowhere that use to consider a bar fight huge town news....ugly

Thanks, Obama

Well, actually, yeah Obamacare is eliminating pill mills (which is a good thing) but is creating heroin zombies (which is a bad thing)

[mormapope]

Availability significantly increases how many people end abusing alcohol, definitely. Obviously the same thing can be said for tobacco.

I will not be surprised when its discovered vaping (juices and/or nicotine) causes certain cancers or diseases, and could have the same dependency issues compared to tobacco. People treat vaping like its a healthy miracle with no drawbacks.

EDIT: The natural progression of an opiate addict is pills -----> heroin. Its a race to the needle when they get a tolerance, have to buy more pills, can't afford the pills, decide to bite the bullet and use heroin, which is way cheaper.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Vaping is already getting a hammer thrown at it by the FDA coming up.

Btw I gotta tell you I'm seeing less and less of it. And that's awesome.

Vaping at a bar is distinguished mentally-challenged and smells like shit.

[CatsCatsCats]

Honestly though, anyone who hasn't tried a drug or two is a bit suspect to me. 

[I'm a Puppy!]

Hey, I haven't done any drugs ever and look how I turned out.

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[Tasty]

I did weed for the first time this year, and a couple times since then.

It's OK but I prefer alcohol.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

I did weed for the first time this year, and a couple times since then.

It's OK but I prefer alcohol.

I'm exactly the opposite. I like a good drink or two but much prefer some medicinal grade and some good music.

[Tasty]

I did weed for the first time this year, and a couple times since then.

It's OK but I prefer alcohol.

I'm exactly the opposite. I like a good drink or two but much prefer some medicinal grade and some good music.

Maybe I'll grow to love it as I try it more, it happened to me with coffee and beer so it's not out of the question.

But goddamn I love a strong cocktail. Rum/cokes, white Russians, Moscow mules, dark and stormies.

They taste amazing and they get you fucked up at the same time. Win-win.

[naff]

  yes and no

[naff]

It would be more accurate to say my habits have matured.
 

I hope your friend getting into amphetamines keeps it recreational

[Kara]

Ultimately I like money more than almost everything else, so I guess, but money unfortunately doesn't buy me a break from my own head which grows quite intolerable sometimes.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Ultimately I like money more than almost everything else, so I guess, but money unfortunately doesn't buy me a break from my own head which grows quite intolerable sometimes.

I'm the total opposite. I love my life. Yet I still like weed and some good 2 cube scotch. Followed by a good cigar.

I think drugs are fun for all regardless of tax bracket and mentality.

[chronovore]

 When I was in college, the next-door neighbors smoked weed every day. My housemate and I  could  smell it coming out of their house every day, several times a day. It was the first time I had been aware of drugs so prevalently.   I eventually asked them if they smoked that much pot, didn't they also do cocaine? They were shocked. They explained that cocaine is an awful, horrible drug, and there was no way they would ever go near it.

 After graduation, I lived with a guy whose best friend was a DJ. He dealt. He had all kinds of stuff, not just marijuana. I asked him about cocaine. He said that drug was basically Satan.

It was all oddly eye-opening for me. When I was in grade school, teachers explained that marijuana would lead to cocaine, and that would lead to heroin and worse, and that would lead to death. I just believed that because school had taught me that.  Even more oddly, at no point was alcohol ever mentioned as a particularly addictive drug. I think not listing nicotine and alcohol as addictive substances is a tremendous disservice to the children that they are educating.

[Kara]

Ultimately I like money more than almost everything else, so I guess, but money unfortunately doesn't buy me a break from my own head which grows quite intolerable sometimes.

I'm the total opposite. I love my life. Yet I still like weed and some good 2 cube scotch. Followed by a good cigar.

I think drugs are fun for all regardless of tax bracket and mentality.

I drink and smoke, was just humoring the normative cleaving of "drugs" itt.

[brawndolicious]

I never really did hard drugs but I outgrew the drinking/smoking weed every night thing sometime in college after I switched from smoking to vaping. Basically when I stopped being cool.

Vaping is already getting a hammer thrown at it by the FDA coming up.

Btw I gotta tell you I'm seeing less and less of it. And that's awesome.

Vaping at a bar is distinguished mentally-challenged and smells like shit.

I see a ton of people picking it up as a "hobby" but they do everything possible to keep it subtle. Which makes sense since I rarely ever see anyone under 50 smoking a cigarette anymore.

I vape in bars but I really can't be bothered to give a shit how annoying it is to strangers. I just make sure the bartender and everyone I'm sitting with is cool with it. My GF does think it's lame tho.

[Human Snorenado]

When I was in college, the next-door neighbors smoked weed every day. My housemate and I  could  smell it coming out of their house every day, several times a day. It was the first time I had been aware of drugs so prevalently.   I eventually asked them if they smoked that much pot, didn't they also do cocaine? They were shocked. They explained that cocaine is an awful, horrible drug, and there was no way they would ever go near it.

 After graduation, I lived with a guy whose best friend was a DJ. He dealt. He had all kinds of stuff, not just marijuana. I asked him about cocaine. He said that drug was basically Satan.

It was all oddly eye-opening for me. When I was in grade school, teachers explained that marijuana would lead to cocaine, and that would lead to heroin and worse, and that would lead to death. I just believed that because school had taught me that.  Even more oddly, at no point was alcohol ever mentioned as a particularly addictive drug. I think not listing nicotine and alcohol as addictive substances is a tremendous disservice to the children that they are educating.

Pretty much anything can become self-destructive if you're predisposed to addiction for whatever reason; in my experience, cocaine did 3 things: 1) gave me the ability to drink all night, 2) gave me the tolerance and interest to talk to and listen to people I would otherwise find boring or garbage human beings, and 3) made me want to do more coke. Not in an addictive way, but as in a "well, this is fun let's keep doing it wheeeeee!" sort of way.

Coke is, ultimately, a boring, garbage drug. At least IMO.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Bullshit. Shitty coke sucks. But good coke

[Human Snorenado]

I mean, it's fun and all. But no coke experience has ever been like, AWESOME. Just fun.

[studyguy]

My girlfriend just got into weed after years of being hard against it.
She's at that obnoxious phase where it's all magic and amazing, feels like when a freshman finally gets to drink and decides to binge every weekend. Like chill damn.

[mormapope]

My girlfriend just got into weed after years of being hard against it.
She's at that obnoxious phase where it's all magic and amazing, feels like when a freshman finally gets to drink and decides to binge every weekend. Like chill damn.

Those first few times where you smoke really good weed and the room spins and shit is askew visually 


I'm definitely on team weed > alcohol. You can do a ton of shit while high. With drinking, if you wanna get fucked up, the night is pretty much over once you're mentally tired.

[kick51]

right now my mindset is that a perfect retirement would consist of getting a piece of property on the outskirts of a major city, cutting off all ties, and dabbing + modafinil all day while watching tv/movies/anime, playing games, reading, listening to music, chatting with online friends, making awesome meals, and having a room with a bunch of instruments to mess around with.  Have a treadmill for long walks.  Venture out to get food+supplies periodically.  have periods where my sleep schedule is totally reversed.

the dabs+modafinil are a key part of this equation. this will lead to occasional bouts of insanity but I can deal.

this might be about a decade away for me