VOAT Containment Megathread of Trash People for Trash People

[ToxicAdam]

I don't watch them, but most people say FF5 is where it made the turn. It went from movies about 'racing culture' to a more broad action franchise that featured huge spectacles.

[Joe Molotov]

As someone that has no seen a single F&F film, I want to ask: At what moment the Fast and Furious films started to get good (or campy enough to be fun) ? I remember when people hated the first film even before sequels were released. But at one point even film critics started to admit that they were having fun.

FF5 was the turning point.

[stufte]

Tokyo Drift? Anyone?

[benjipwns]

As someone that has no seen a single F&F film, I want to ask: At what moment the Fast and Furious films started to get good (or campy enough to be fun) ? I remember when people hated the first film even before sequels were released. But at one point even film critics started to admit that they were having fun.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-fast-and-furious/

[Mupepe]

Only F&F1 and Tokyo Drift are good.  The rest are okay or awful.  7 was awful.

[Great Rumbler]

Only F&F1 and Tokyo Drift are good.  The rest are okay or awful.  7 was awful.

[Dennis]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1364317

We are going from micro-aggressions to nano-aggressions.

How low can we go? Planck-aggressions?

[Momo]

Tokyo Drift? Anyone?

Did the OST ever have any Rip Slyme on it? I know that awful Teriyaki Boys song was on there (they have good songs that arent shit) but dont remember much about the other music.

[thisismyusername]

If Bernie died in his sleep I'd probably drink a toast, sure, but I don't wake up every day wishing for it.

Also reminds me:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/26/the-democratic-party-is-stumbling-toward-liberal-purity/

[thisismyusername]

As someone that has no seen a single F&F film, I want to ask: At what moment the Fast and Furious films started to get good (or campy enough to be fun) ? I remember when people hated the first film even before sequels were released. But at one point even film critics started to admit that they were having fun.

The first one is typical early 2000's racer culture. It's fun in a campy-way. 2-3 couldn't match it, IMO. 4 was when they started to turn stories around and threw in "Letty's death" to make a plotpoint for 5. 5 was pretty good. 6 was okay. 7 was alright, but nothing amazing. Haven't seen 8 yet. But for me, they're good popcorn films and I get entertained off them so...

[stufte]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=234810538&postcount=617

I turned myself into a girl

I now completely understand Bruce Jenner

 

[Jansen]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1364512

xseed tom

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=184871270 

[FunSlower]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1364512

xseed tom

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=184871270 

Knew I recognized his name from somewhere. He was definitely promoting Criminal Girls, I remember that.

[WanderingWind]

You guys disgust me. I hope you all get maids and die of old age eventually.

[stufte]

You guys disgust me. I hope you all get maids and die of old age eventually.

Thanks!

[FunSlower]

Well, it is water_wendi
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=234821110&postcount=36

i think the oil company CEOs/executives should be executed for treason but them losing money/sales is a good start.

[Boredfrom]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1364512

xseed tom

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=184871270 

Technomancer doing that thread reminds me that he just said in OT that he is in charge of a middle size bussines with dozen of employes and dealing with a lot of money...

I don't believe him.

Also, remember when Aeana banned Tom?

Thought he probably should have choose a better battle than a throwaway joke.

[WanderingWind]

You guys disgust me. I hope you all get maids and die of old age eventually.

Thanks!

You in particular need to GTFO and find a nice person with whom to spend your life with like a jerkass.

[stufte]

You guys disgust me. I hope you all get maids and die of old age eventually.

Thanks!

You in particular need to GTFO and find a nice person with whom to spend your life with like a jerkass.

handled!

[etiolate]

Don't you dare tell me to get out of the house and find a life.

[doctavius bonbon]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1364512

xseed tom

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=184871270 

the underage anime titty lover = oppressed minority equivalency never fails to make me laugh.

[Boredfrom]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1364512

xseed tom

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=184871270 

the underage anime titty lover = oppressed minority equivalency never fails to make me laugh.

So you are going to call them alt right neonazis just to teach them a lesson?

[doctavius bonbon]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1364512

xseed tom

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=184871270 

the underage anime titty lover = oppressed minority equivalency never fails to make me laugh.

So you are going to call them alt right neonazis just to teach them a lesson?

卐 Literally Hitler 卐

Even if you consider content in a game to be perverted and classless... let the classless perverts have it! They deserve to enjoy their games just as much as the rest of us. And to say that it "taints" the game for the rest of us is no different than saying having someone of a different race, or sexual orientation, taints the neighborhood.

Nah, I was just gonna call him dumb for this snippet from the linked thread.

[Boredfrom]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1364512

xseed tom

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=184871270 

the underage anime titty lover = oppressed minority equivalency never fails to make me laugh.

So you are going to call them alt right neonazis just to teach them a lesson?

卐 Literally Hitler 卐

Even if you consider content in a game to be perverted and classless... let the classless perverts have it! They deserve to enjoy their games just as much as the rest of us. And to say that it "taints" the game for the rest of us is no different than saying having someone of a different race, or sexual orientation, taints the neighborhood.

Nah, I was just gonna call him dumb for this snippet from the linked thread.

What do you think whe is people claiming that a game is tainted, no because loli stuff, but things like whatever if a unsympathetic minor NPC uses or not the te "trap"?  Because that was another big controversy that involved GAF and its moderation team.

Not saying the KKK witches debacle is not a stupid hill to him to die in but some of the stuff people have complained about Xseed localizations also have been in the real of insane.

[thisismyusername]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1364512

xseed tom

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=184871270 

the underage anime titty lover = oppressed minority equivalency never fails to make me laugh.

Dude is seriously someone I would probably avoid in real life. I get what he's doing, but these "hills" he's dying on is just pure "no."

[Steve Contra]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1364593

OP is in the hospital for suicidal ideation. Wants to know how to lie to her boss about the reason as she works with kids and the place of business isn't big on having people with mental issues watching the kids. Thread goes on and on about all the lies to tell. One person suggests that it's weird no one is suggesting she get help, instead just helping find ways to lie to her boss. Dogpiled immediately. Another person wishes them luck but says they wouldn't trust her to watch his kids at the time being. Immediately dogpiled, told to delete his account, and that he's literally what's wrong with the world.

OP can't figure out why anyone could possibly not be cool with a suicidal person watching their kids, because she's only a danger to herself, not understand that no one is suggesting she's going to kill kids, but that she isn't in a good space to be responsible for them at the time being.

Mind you, this is a person who is currently in the hospital for a suicide attempt and she's on GAF IN THE HOSPITAL. Also mind you, the business can't force her to tell them why she was in there to begin with, so the whole thing is a non-issue. But I can tell you from working in a environment where I was responsible for the safety and wellbeing of kids, if they have any doubts about you mentally, you aren't allowed to be around the kids because they can't trust you if you can't trust yourself.

You can't imagine why a suicidal person doesn't want to lose their job? And you can't imagine why a person who's been hospitalized for suicidal thoughts can't put together logical conclusions?

[Joe Molotov]

A year ago, Lipschultz protested when ages were removed from girls’ profiles in Senran Kagura Burst, a game Kotaku’s Brian Ashcraft reports was made because the developer wanted to put boobs in a 3DS game. Lipschultz almost quit. “Changing a 15-year-old to an 18-year-old would suddenly recontextualize a lot of character actions and motivations, turning characters who come across as ‘well-meaning but young and inexperienced’ into characters who simply come across as immature and misguided,” he told former Kotaku reporter Patrick Klepek for a feature on video game “censorship.”

But mah boner!

[Boredfrom]

A year ago, Lipschultz protested when ages were removed from girls’ profiles in Senran Kagura Burst, a game Kotaku’s Brian Ashcraft reports was made because the developer wanted to put boobs in a 3DS game. Lipschultz almost quit. “Changing a 15-year-old to an 18-year-old would suddenly recontextualize a lot of character actions and motivations, turning characters who come across as ‘well-meaning but young and inexperienced’ into characters who simply come across as immature and misguided,” he told former Kotaku reporter Patrick Klepek for a feature on video game “censorship.”

But mah boner!

The games are surprisingly well written, even GAF has problems in bitching about that aspect (ask Besada and Platy). The producer is mostly honest that the fan service is the main focus of that games, but even then he has interesting perspectives about that (in a interview with Patrick Klepeck at least it mentions this) Probably for the best just to omit age profiles.

[Great Rumbler]

Apparently, this was the hill he wanted to die on.

[Boredfrom]

Apparently, this was the hill he wanted to die on.

His very shitty choice. Still, people pretending that we're not legitimate defense of some his past stuff is annoying, specially given how heavy the GAF moderation team were involved in some stuff.

[Steve Contra]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1364593

OP is in the hospital for suicidal ideation. Wants to know how to lie to her boss about the reason as she works with kids and the place of business isn't big on having people with mental issues watching the kids. Thread goes on and on about all the lies to tell. One person suggests that it's weird no one is suggesting she get help, instead just helping find ways to lie to her boss. Dogpiled immediately. Another person wishes them luck but says they wouldn't trust her to watch his kids at the time being. Immediately dogpiled, told to delete his account, and that he's literally what's wrong with the world.

OP can't figure out why anyone could possibly not be cool with a suicidal person watching their kids, because she's only a danger to herself, not understand that no one is suggesting she's going to kill kids, but that she isn't in a good space to be responsible for them at the time being.

Mind you, this is a person who is currently in the hospital for a suicide attempt and she's on GAF IN THE HOSPITAL. Also mind you, the business can't force her to tell them why she was in there to begin with, so the whole thing is a non-issue. But I can tell you from working in a environment where I was responsible for the safety and wellbeing of kids, if they have any doubts about you mentally, you aren't allowed to be around the kids because they can't trust you if you can't trust yourself.

You can't imagine why a suicidal person doesn't want to lose their job? And you can't imagine why a person who's been hospitalized for suicidal thoughts can't put together logical conclusions?

No, I can't imagine why she's going to NEOGAF to figure out ways to lie to her boss about something she doesn't have to tell them to begin with. And I can't imagine why all the posters are helping her to lie instead of getting mental help, and why someone suggesting she shouldn't be responsible for the wellbeing of kids when she's being hospitalized for suicidal things got dogpiled and banned.

I've worked with kids and I've dealt with clinical depression and at times suicidal ideation for close to 20 years. A suicidal person is not fit to be taking care of kids. Anyone suggesting that getting dogpiled and banned is absurd. What's going to happen is this person is going to get fired for lying to their boss because they took the advice of a video game message board. You can't be fired for mental health issues, as it is a disability. Get a diagnosis, don't lie to your boss, work with the company to get on FMLA or disability. GAF is telling this person to just say "oh it's nothing contagious, don't worry about it" and miss work for a few weeks.

That whole thread is a circlejerk of people cheering on a suicidal person to lie to their bosses and go back to being responsible for the wellbeing of children while being mentally ill to the point of needing to be hospitalized due to suicide stuff.

I don't think suicidal people should be taking care of kids either, but the time to tell a suicidal person they shouldn't be working isn't when they're at they're lowest. She has no idea what to do right now and she's desperate and looking for some sort of lifeline, I get it. Thread should be locked quite honestly.

[etiolate]

GAF has no ability or qualifications to help them.

[counterhit]

What do you think whe is people claiming that a game is tainted, no because loli stuff, but things like whatever if a unsympathetic minor NPC uses or not the te "trap"?  Because that was another big controversy that involved GAF and its moderation team.

Not saying the KKK witches debacle is not a stupid hill to him to die in but some of the stuff people have complained about Xseed localizations also have been in the real of insane.

My takeaway is how similar a response to something like this is to pretty much the same for every debate about localization vs. censorship. It's always a stupid hill to die on, every argument against a localization change may as well be the same as this KKK Witches thing, and if the localization company doesn't really comply with the hills you want to die on your idea of localization, well...

Though I imagine he now knows he can't get fired without Gators and other Ne'er-do-wells starting a mini-shitstorm about SJWs taking over XSeed. Considering their output pretty much relies on those types, and that they're no longer independently owned and operated, he's got some leverage.

GAMERGATE

[VomKriege]

Alternative title:"Killing your career in an industry for the LULZ"

Well at least he's not an escort 

No offense to Tom, but if I ran a company and my employee demands his name out of the credits of the game out of shame... I wouldn't just take his name out of all future games, I'd fire him no question asked

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=234818689
 

[Klelk]

There's got to be other phrases for "hill to die on" 

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1364734

Yup. I usually specify "intersectional feminism."

Feminism was never formalized like Communism.

 
Tho yeah, they certainly tried to formalize Communism.

I mean... I would probably answer no despite believing in equal rights and opportunities, because as a man I would find it a bit precious to assume I fully understand the struggle of women.

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=234776920&postcount=4417

People have to stop whining about Uber. Your problem is a lack of proper social safety net.

 
France, this hellhole without any proper safety nets.

[Trurl]

Why are women's rights the only social issue with a well-known -ism?   

[Rufus]

Why are women's rights the only social issue with a well-known -ism?

They're half of humanity.

[Trurl]

I don't think that answers it.  I can't think of a similar a similar term in any other civil rights movement. 

But yeah, I've always had a distaste for enforced gender roles, generally agree with all of goals of feminism and want to see more women in power, so I'm a feminist.

[Joe Molotov]

A year ago, Lipschultz protested when ages were removed from girls’ profiles in Senran Kagura Burst, a game Kotaku’s Brian Ashcraft reports was made because the developer wanted to put boobs in a 3DS game. Lipschultz almost quit. “Changing a 15-year-old to an 18-year-old would suddenly recontextualize a lot of character actions and motivations, turning characters who come across as ‘well-meaning but young and inexperienced’ into characters who simply come across as immature and misguided,” he told former Kotaku reporter Patrick Klepek for a feature on video game “censorship.”

But mah boner!

The games are surprisingly well written, even GAF has problems in bitching about that aspect (ask Besada and Platy). The producer is mostly honest that the fan service is the main focus of that games, but even then he has interesting perspectives about that (in a interview with Patrick Klepeck at least it mentions this) Probably for the best just to omit age profiles.

Oh, I mean I actually play the Senran Kagura games (and worse  ), but still tho.   

[FStop7]

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1364689

Polygon is the Bobby Roberts of video games

[Joe Molotov]

Saving Private Ryan had 7 Fast 7 Furious's Vin Diesel, tho.

[FStop7]

The best part is that thread is GAF collectively shrieking at its own reflection.  There's nothing in that Polygon article that hasn't been said before by the usual suspects.

[doctavius bonbon]

There's got to be other phrases for "hill to die on" 

i thought grill to fry on was worth a chuckle.

[stufte]

girls to spy on? very gafesque.

[zomgee]

There's got to be other phrases for "hill to die on" 

Post to GAF on

[Joe Molotov]

police song to cry on

[agrajag]

Are you a feminist?

Alternative thread title:

Trying to get away with just enough to skirt a ban but still go aggro
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=234859363&postcount=166

[counterhit]

Confused what the point of that thread is/was. Seems like people were just waiting around for someone to disagree so they could get uptight about it.

[agrajag]

Confused what the point of that thread is/was. Seems like people were just waiting around for someone to disagree so they could get drunk on ban-lust

FTFY

[bork]

Yes, Senran producer Takaki is unabashed about his reasons for making his games.  He's awesome.  Hence my tag being his (in)famous quote. 

おっぱいは命、尻は故郷

A year ago, Lipschultz protested when ages were removed from girls’ profiles in Senran Kagura Burst, a game Kotaku’s Brian Ashcraft reports was made because the developer wanted to put boobs in a 3DS game. Lipschultz almost quit. “Changing a 15-year-old to an 18-year-old would suddenly recontextualize a lot of character actions and motivations, turning characters who come across as ‘well-meaning but young and inexperienced’ into characters who simply come across as immature and misguided,” he told former Kotaku reporter Patrick Klepek for a feature on video game “censorship.”

But mah boner!

I really would like to know how changing the ages of the characters would have that kind of effect on the game story.  What a crock of shit. 

This is XSeed Tom, right?  Dude has always been off his rocker.

[agrajag]

Oh, here we go. The obligatory Stump or whatever coward mod hiding behind ModBot to let everybody know that they are shitty, basement-dwelling man-babies, and he is somehow above the fray when he spends hours a day moderating them

Many of you should be deeply, personally embarrassed at your parents'-basement-anime-body-pillow-tier opinions.

[mormapope]

I mean, isnt that mod bot post or attitude a perfect reflection of the sentiment of this thread?

 

[Dennis]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1365025

My account.

[FStop7]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1365025

My account.

bingo!

[agrajag]

I mean, isnt that mod bot post or attitude a perfect reflection of the sentiment of this thread?

 

It is a little rich coming from someone who spends hours a day curating the conversations of those he apparently loathes so much.. Plus, I don't think most people here are even that harsh.

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1365025

My account.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=234908365&postcount=15

 

benji help

[bork]

Wait...THIS is what Tom was freaking out about?

KKK witches" --> "ACQ witches"

    This is the most egregious change IMHO, and is one that I kind of turned into Senran Kagura censorship debate: the sequel. The original was a parody of "NKK switches," a Japanese light switch manufacturer based out of Akihabara. I personally felt "KKK witches" was pretty funny for its shock value, but when I mentioned it to my coworkers, they... were not as amused. For various reasons (some of which do include legitimate localization concerns, but most of which involved personal offense, worries over offending others, or worries over stores not carrying the game due to this "controversial" inclusion), they were insistent upon the name being changed. And of course, I fought this as best as I could, since I saw the forceful change of this as an act of censorship (minor though it be, and even understandable though it be). In the end, however, it was Acquire themselves who voluntarily changed it to "ACQ witches"... sort of. We only ever got as far as emailing them to let them know that the KKK is a well-known abbreviation for a hate group in America, and asking them if the name "KKK witches" had any specific meaning in Akiba's Beat, and the conversation never progressed beyond that point before Acquire simply changed the sign text and sent us a new build. Because of this, calling this an "act of censorship" is indeed rather questionable -- though not unwarranted, I feel, since (1) we would've asked them to change it if they hadn't done so voluntarily, (2) our email did not directly ask them to change it, but... I mean, how else were they supposed to interpret us asking about it at all? And (3) the Japanese version still retains the "KKK witches" moniker, with the change only made to all English versions. It is due to this change, and specifically due to my initial misconception that we'd directly asked the devs to change it, that I asked to have my name removed from the credits of Akiba's Beat, and thus -- in accordance with company policy, which I was well advised of beforehand -- removed from XSEED's company credits altogether, meaning I will not be appearing in the credits of any future XSEED title. Ken was willing to let me post about this publicly, as with my previous grievance regarding the removal of character ages in Senran Kagura, but he insisted I cite the policy in question so you guys know exactly why my name will not be appearing in XSEED titles from here on out:

 

[nudemacusers]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1365025

My account.

Too lazy to read but no mention of the infamous European trip thread I assume 👀