VOAT Containment Megathread of Trash People for Trash People

[benjipwns]

amirox is banned?

he was banned weeks before the election, stalling Hillary's campaign and leaving it lost at sea without a captain

[Himu]

things are really not going well on GAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1311633

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223936008&postcount=34

Nailed it.

The last 24 hours have been rough for me and I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out the fuck happened. Reading stuff like that is helping a lot with my perspective, which I admit was very narrow. I put social issues at the forefront, thinking that would tip the scales. I was wrong and it fucked my shit up pretty bad.

I won't forgive the hardcore republicans who side with Trump just because they're republicans. That's garbage. But I get why a person who is struggling to get by in a dying city who can't find work because their company shipped the jobs overseas can feel like the last 16 years of Repub and Dem politics have fucked them over something fierce. They look at Trump and see someone trying to bring the system down. It's the same hope and change rhetoric that got Obama elected. It's weird to say that but I think it's true.

I agree. It was a blind spot for me too. I've never really been to the rust belt. I've been to the country plenty of times - I'm from Texas so of course - but it's hard for me to reconcile it because that way of life is so foreign to me. I don't know anyone in the country and all the people I know from the country don't live in the country because there's better opportunities in the city. I have lived in a bubble and didn't recognize that the fact people have to move to cities is partly part of the problem. You shouldn't have to have your way of life die out because of the absence of the very political policy that promises to assist all of us. It's a hard pill to swallow...but I get it now. David Wong was right. Thisismyusername was right too. Dems and Republicans fucked up. When you see someone like Trump willing to topple over both establishments and your way of life is crumbling and you can't find a fucking job, you're gonna want to cry out for help. I know that for all my criticisms of Hillary and even Obama, I've been willing to look away because they will help *me* but I've unfortunately lived life without the self awareness that people may have legitimate grievance. More than anything, we need someone to help out rural and middle America and not on empty promises and not in a manner that affects the environment in a negative way (i.e. bringing back coal).

I've said on here and on gaf that white people are racist, but it's ultimately an amalgamation of my fear, of my hurt, of my pain. It could have been potentially harmful and destructive and I just didn't give a shit. When people like Kinitari were banned, I certainly didn't want that. So I agree neogaf is a bad place for discussion. Banning people just for disagreeing is not a good modus operandi and I'm seeing it in many progressive and liberal enclaves. On a subreddit I go to, anyone who disagrees with the status quo of the subreddit has their post deleted or they are banned. To be fair, that subreddit is also conveniently always raided by white supremacists. It's a simple subreddit for black women and they constantly try to fuck with us. The result? Banning anyone who disagrees. Legitimate grievance has turned into an environment where the only acceptable people are ones we agree with.

I'm really glad I took my gaf break now.

PS: FFIX's vanilla battle system is still dog shit and FFVIII is still a better game.

[Let's Cyber]

There are no checks and balances left...

Like what the fuck is he even talking about the GOP hates muslims as much as Trump does...

And they control it all.

Clinton was the check and balance.

This sounds an awful lot like hero worship to me 

Acting like Hillary was Anakin Skywalker and shit 

"YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!"

[benjipwns]

Has Sanders ever once admitted this was an election about white nationalism...?

[fistfulofmetal]

now they're analyzing body language in a photo of obama and trump shaking hands, you'll never guess what they see

I mean you can draw a lot of information from simply body language. It's a pretty common thing to do.

[FunSlower]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223972902&postcount=1039

I've cut anyone who voted for him out of my life.

I don't need the cancer they provide with their ignorance.

I don't need their ignorance. I will get rid of people who don't think like me. 

[thisismyusername]

things are really not going well on GAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1311633

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223936008&postcount=34

Nailed it.

The last 24 hours have been rough for me and I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out the fuck happened. Reading stuff like that is helping a lot with my perspective, which I admit was very narrow. I put social issues at the forefront, thinking that would tip the scales. I was wrong and it fucked my shit up pretty bad.

I won't forgive the hardcore republicans who side with Trump just because they're republicans. That's garbage. But I get why a person who is struggling to get by in a dying city who can't find work because their company shipped the jobs overseas can feel like the last 16 years of Repub and Dem politics have fucked them over something fierce. They look at Trump and see someone trying to bring the system down. It's the same hope and change rhetoric that got Obama elected. It's weird to say that but I think it's true.

I agree. It was a blind spot for me too. I've never really been to the rust belt. I've been to the country plenty of times - I'm from Texas so of course - but it's hard for me to reconcile it because that way of life is so foreign to me. I don't know anyone in the country and all the people I know from the country don't live in the country because there's better opportunities in the city. I have lived in a bubble and didn't recognize that the fact people have to move to cities is partly part of the problem. You shouldn't have to have your way of life die out because of the absence of the very political policy that promises to assist all of us. It's a hard pill to swallow...but I get it now. David Wong was right. Thisismyusername was right too. Dems and Republicans fucked up. When you see someone like Trump willing to topple over both establishments and your way of life is crumbling and you can't find a fucking job, you're gonna want to cry out for help. I know that for all my criticisms of Hillary and even Obama, I've been willing to look away because they will help *me* but I've unfortunately lived life without the self awareness that people may have legitimate grievance. More than anything, we need someone to help out rural and middle America and not on empty promises and not in a manner that affects the environment in a negative way (i.e. bringing back coal).

I've said on here and on gaf that white people are racist, but it's ultimately an amalgamation of my fear, of my hurt, of my pain. It could have been potentially harmful and destructive and I just didn't give a shit. When people like Kinitari were banned, I certainly didn't want that. So I agree neogaf is a bad place for discussion. Banning people just for disagreeing is not a good modus operandi and I'm seeing it in many progressive and liberal enclaves. On a subreddit I go to, anyone who disagrees with the status quo of the subreddit has their post deleted or they are banned. To be fair, that subreddit is also conveniently always raided by white supremacists. It's a simple subreddit for black women and they constantly try to fuck with us. The result? Banning anyone who disagrees. Legitimate grievance has turned into an environment where the only acceptable people are ones we agree with.

I'm really glad I took my gaf break now.

PS: FFIX's vanilla battle system is still dog shit and FFVIII is still a better game.

I still respect you, hun. Even if you went down the rabbit hole and lost some respect from me ("FUCK ALL WHITE PEOPLE"). I'm glad you're understanding that just because some of us don't necessarily agree with the method or means of BLM, doesn't make us racist or not knowing the plight.

Like I said: I'm all for black betterment, I just don't think screaming "WHITE PEOPLE ARE RACIST" and when whites try to discuss what they can do or try to learn, blacks scoffing and going "OH YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND! "  is productive. Consequently, that same community doesn't understand why poor whites are turning to drugs, having suicides spike, seeing the towns they grew up in dying. Because "fuck them crackers, they're getting what they deserve for racism" and half of that community went to school with and had no issues with blacks.

As much as I hate to say it, it's a "shades of grey" issue and both sides are not better than the other. Like I said when you guys were talking down me: When you're screaming "RACIST" at folks that don't agree like the BCT on GAF does, you're no better than the folks you're decrying.

Hopefully in the next four years, everyone will reconcile. Black, White, Latino, Middle-Eastern, Asian. Everyone. And together we all go "you know our economy is fucked and people are going into debt trying to survive [get a college degree to get better work because that's what society and the nation is jamming down their throats], let's fix this and get everyone a better life." And hopefully in the next four years the police-state doesn't get worse (but I'm not hopeful on that, as sad as it is to say).

It sucks, but this has to be a wake-up call to "the Establishment" that when you have someone like Trump and Bernie garnering support (even if it isn't minority support, granted) you have to look at why they're getting that support.

[Himu]

things are really not going well on GAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1311633

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223936008&postcount=34

Nailed it.

The last 24 hours have been rough for me and I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out the fuck happened. Reading stuff like that is helping a lot with my perspective, which I admit was very narrow. I put social issues at the forefront, thinking that would tip the scales. I was wrong and it fucked my shit up pretty bad.

I won't forgive the hardcore republicans who side with Trump just because they're republicans. That's garbage. But I get why a person who is struggling to get by in a dying city who can't find work because their company shipped the jobs overseas can feel like the last 16 years of Repub and Dem politics have fucked them over something fierce. They look at Trump and see someone trying to bring the system down. It's the same hope and change rhetoric that got Obama elected. It's weird to say that but I think it's true.

I agree. It was a blind spot for me too. I've never really been to the rust belt. I've been to the country plenty of times - I'm from Texas so of course - but it's hard for me to reconcile it because that way of life is so foreign to me. I don't know anyone in the country and all the people I know from the country don't live in the country because there's better opportunities in the city. I have lived in a bubble and didn't recognize that the fact people have to move to cities is partly part of the problem. You shouldn't have to have your way of life die out because of the absence of the very political policy that promises to assist all of us. It's a hard pill to swallow...but I get it now. David Wong was right. Thisismyusername was right too. Dems and Republicans fucked up. When you see someone like Trump willing to topple over both establishments and your way of life is crumbling and you can't find a fucking job, you're gonna want to cry out for help. I know that for all my criticisms of Hillary and even Obama, I've been willing to look away because they will help *me* but I've unfortunately lived life without the self awareness that people may have legitimate grievance. More than anything, we need someone to help out rural and middle America and not on empty promises and not in a manner that affects the environment in a negative way (i.e. bringing back coal).

I've said on here and on gaf that white people are racist, but it's ultimately an amalgamation of my fear, of my hurt, of my pain. It could have been potentially harmful and destructive and I just didn't give a shit. When people like Kinitari were banned, I certainly didn't want that. So I agree neogaf is a bad place for discussion. Banning people just for disagreeing is not a good modus operandi and I'm seeing it in many progressive and liberal enclaves. On a subreddit I go to, anyone who disagrees with the status quo of the subreddit has their post deleted or they are banned. To be fair, that subreddit is also conveniently always raided by white supremacists. It's a simple subreddit for black women and they constantly try to fuck with us. The result? Banning anyone who disagrees. Legitimate grievance has turned into an environment where the only acceptable people are ones we agree with.

I'm really glad I took my gaf break now.

PS: FFIX's vanilla battle system is still dog shit and FFVIII is still a better game.

I still respect you, hun. Even if you went down the rabbit hole and lost some respect from me ("FUCK ALL WHITE PEOPLE"). I'm glad you're understanding that just because some of us don't necessarily agree with the method or means of BLM, doesn't make us racist or not knowing the plight.

Like I said: I'm all for black betterment, I just don't think screaming "WHITE PEOPLE ARE RACIST" and when whites try to discuss what they can do or try to learn, blacks scoffing and going "OH YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND! "  is productive. Consequently, that same community doesn't understand why poor whites are turning to drugs, having suicides spike, seeing the towns they grew up in dying. Because "fuck them crackers, they're getting what they deserve for racism" and half of that community went to school with and had no issues with blacks.

As much as I hate to say it, it's a "shades of grey" issue and both sides are not better than the other. Like I said when you guys were talking down me: When you're screaming "RACIST" at folks that don't agree like the BCT on GAF does, you're no better than the folks you're decrying.

Hopefully in the next four years, everyone will reconcile. Black, White, Latino, Middle-Eastern, Asian. Everyone. And together we all go "you know our economy is fucked and people are going into debt trying to survive [get a college degree to get better work because that's what society and the nation is jamming down their throats], let's fix this and get everyone a better life." And hopefully in the next four years the police-state doesn't get worse (but I'm not hopeful on that, as sad as it is to say).

It sucks, but this has to be a wake-up call to "the Establishment" that when you have someone like Trump and Bernie garnering support (even if it isn't minority support, granted) you have to look at why they're getting that support.

I don't agree with the method or means of BLM either. I find it too focused on one issue. Although that issue is life - a very important issue - it does not hope to consider the ways that cause police brutality. Police brutality is a serious issue, but what's also even more serious is the person who thinks a black person whose car is wrecked after an accident is inherently dangerous and calls the police telling them that they're going to be robbed. The police will have to respond with force if they're told there's a robbery, and what could have been prevented in the first place cut aside for absolute distrust in wide swaths of black people. By concentrating on police brutality you focus on a symptom, not the cause. It's also no surprise many black lives matter people like Kaepernik didn't vote. Even if he didn't agree with the president candidates, there was a down ticket prop about speeding up the process for the death penalty, which unequivocally effects black men. Still, he decided to sit his mulatto ass down. BLM is all talk, no real answers. I abandoned the organization earlier this year. I'd love to make my own organization but don't know how, have the time, nor the willpower.

[doctavius bonbon]

There are no checks and balances left...

Like what the fuck is he even talking about the GOP hates muslims as much as Trump does...

And they control it all.

Clinton was the check and balance.

This sounds an awful lot like hero worship to me 

Acting like Hillary was Anakin Skywalker and shit 

"YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!"

It's true tho.

Without Hillary, they don't have to worry about having the necessary numbers in both houses to override presidential vetoes. And now Trump can appoint supreme court justices, and have them confirmed with a majority in Senate, unless democrats are willing to filibuster for the next four years. And even then, McConnell can just trigger the nuclear option and change the rules for confirmation to simple majority.

pls correct me if im wrong benji

[thisismyusername]

Right. A lot of those movements are talk. IIRC, I compared BLM here or somewhere else (maybe reddit? Or private IM services?) with Occupy Wallstreet. The movement is a nice idea but at the end of the day: What impact do they get? Pretty much nothing. Just look at Trump, he's probably not going to get body cams on all officers like Obama (rightly) wanted and BLM's demanded.

But who knows, I know a local college is doing it (first in the nation or so?) as a test run and investment or whatever to make the campus safer for everyone. So there may be a bright future ahead while we go down a proto-facist scare path.

As it is, I hope the black community is able to (as poorly worded as it's coming out of my head and I can't think of another way of wording it) "break the shackles" of their anger toward whites. I can understand it, and I can understand why you had that "fuck all whites, they don't benefit us." But when you divide yourself, you're not going to stand with others as the saying goes.

[FStop7]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223964508&postcount=47

 

[I'm a Puppy!]

Himu I love you

[Nola]

What's wrong with this? They're right. You honestly come off badly here as Trump is promising to dismantle the EPA. But Gj making fun of some gaffer I guess.

The survival of the very planet did not hang in the balance on the outcome of this election. Actually dismantling the EPA (something I find to be unlikely but accepting the premise) will not immediately end life on the planet.

The United States is not the significant factor in the global climate or even in environmental pollution anymore. Despite doing barely anything we've dropped in carbon emissions and general pollution drastically over the last 25 years. 75-80% in many cases, 90%! in some. We met a whole bunch of standards we never accepted by default, whereas countries that had signed on still haven't.

It's cost effective for U.S. businesses and the energy industry as a whole, it's why this has happened despite not only a lack of new significant efforts but a rollback of existing regulations during that same period. Emissions from the energy industry dropped something like 15% last year despite no significant regulatory changes compared to even the prior two years.

The elections in China will prove much more important on this factor than Hillary or Trump replacing Obama's barely expansive environmental agenda. (Not entirely his fault, the House has been GOP for coming up on six years now and last two have had a GOP Senate.) None of the three could actually heal the planet and "slow the rise of the oceans" and its silly to think otherwise. They aren't gods.

People thinking a four or eight year setback in only U.S. policy will actually end the stability of the planet and kill billions within our lifetime are ignoring the scientific consensus which explicitly says otherwise.

At the end of the day Benji, the market still does not reflect the true cost of carbon emissions into the atmosphere. That's a critical point to analyzing this that can't be left out. Until that externality cost is properly incorporated into the market, the market is very unlikely to adjust enough to offset or notably reduce the harm that is still being done.  For it to do so would be luck of factors like a technological breakthrough that accelerates the trend well beyond what is anticipated and disrupts the market and forces adaption due to decision-making mostly separate from reducing environmental costs.

Walking away from the table and rolling back the regulations that are on the books, like MPG standards or credits for green energy or walking away from the table on global climate agreements, it will have an effect. Even if you can point to meta data that would still show an overall downward trend, that doesn't mean variables underlying it aren't preventing greater reductions. Given who it looks like may hold these posts, there is very real harm to the notion of a person looking out for the interests of major polluters which will tilt the market in ways that will undermine current trends or even reverse them in areas.

True, the death of the planet in 4 years due to some tipping point that could of been prevented without Trump is over reactionary, but ultimately its sort of a red herring to the more important underlying issues at play.

[Himu]

Himu I love you

 

[daemon]

amirox is banned?

we all get banned eventually

it's the circle of GAF life

Some are doomed to repeat the cycle. I'm starting to see Angelus like a "slave", he's never really let go. all temp bans, no perma to grant him freedom.

[Syph]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223943997&postcount=637

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but you might want to think about this.  GAF used to be a place where info was on the cutting edge.  We had developers posting here that now write us off as a joke due to over-sensitivity.

Japanese developers are now looking at us and considering 'western sensibility'.  A country that used to change churches to 'clinics' in Final Fantasy.  Developers that we shook our heads at in the 'Jack Thompson Era' of the 90s have gone full circle.  GAF is a spearhead in making the western community a complete embarrassment.

I used to think it was so awesome to be a NeoGAF member a decade ago.  An open forum.

Did they seriously ban him for saying this?  Just proves his point.

Anyway, man, what a great thread.  About time this finally came up and hopefully it will lead to some changes and-

No, there does not. NeoGAF moderation will continue to set standards for basic human decency in discussion here. You're not being held hostage and welcome to use the door at any time if that's not acceptable to you.

EL has such a thin skin, man.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223944402&postcount=639

Why are you still posting here if it you deem is complete embarrassment? Your post has some clear gamergate shades as well. You still one of them?

[Let's Cyber]

It's true tho.

I'm not disagreeing that getting Hillary elected was supremely (pun intended) important.  It was.  And the fact the Dems only gained one senate seat is another embarrassment in and of itself (two if you count retaining Reid's seat in Nevada).

Beyond that post and more referring to the poster, I'm making fun of the fact so many of these posters fell into the same trap of hero worship they were so happy to accuse Sanders and Trump supporters of falling into.  Hillary was not the end all be all and only bastion of goodness in the world.  This election was a disaster...but there is another election in 2 years.   After all the talk of slow change, keeping a steady hand and making pragmatic decisions, for anyone to throw their hands up now after the their Chosen One has fallen is hypocrite.   

But yeah the election is still raw so there is a lot of knee jerk reactions, I understand that.

[daemon]

Why are you still posting here if it you deem is complete embarrassment? Your post has some clear gamergate shades as well. You still one of them?

[/quote]

By this line of thinking, shouldn't a big portion of the US leave the country if Trump's election was such an embarassment?

[benjipwns]

But yeah the election is still raw so there is a lot of knee jerk reactions, I understand that.

That's why you need to build your life up with years of disappointment and never allow yourself to become emotionally invested in anything ever. Just distant.

So far away.

Alone.

It's cold here.

[Raist]

https://medium.com/@courtneyparkerwest/on-woke-white-people-advertising-their-shock-that-racism-just-won-a-presidency-68286682047d#.x6tflg9nm


I'm sure a lot of people's reaction after reading this won't be "well fuck you then"

[Take My Breh Away]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223984338&postcount=73



Press F to pay respects to his account

[thisismyusername]

https://medium.com/@courtneyparkerwest/on-woke-white-people-advertising-their-shock-that-racism-just-won-a-presidency-68286682047d#.x6tflg9nm


I'm sure a lot of people's reaction after reading this won't be "well fuck you then"

I mean she's not necessarily wrong, but fuck her anyway. That's the type of shit I've been railing against. "Oh, now you're shocked and dismayed? " Congrats, you have folks saying they are horrified by the results and you're spiking the ball like five feet from the field goal with "but you put him in there, though!"

[benjipwns]

i wonder if the poligaf infighting, blame assigning wars and replaying the election through endless hypotheticals will end before my ban does

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223984707&postcount=94

So....were did all the money raised for the Clinton campaign go ?

Down the toilet, sure but what did they spend it on.

The rights to "Fight Song".

[nachobro]

Y2Kev on suicide watch after that thread. How much did he claim to donate again?

[thisismyusername]

How old is Y2Kev again?

[Shuri]

What happens to the leftover campaign money once it's over?

[Let's Cyber]

That's why you need to build your life up with years of disappointment and never allow yourself to become emotionally invested in anything ever. Just distant.

So far away.

Alone.

It's cold here.

I need at least one more soul crushing break up before I fully tumble into the abyss.

[Himu]

kev works in an industry that uniformly benefits from a clinton presidency and I refuse to tell you what it is. But he stands to benefit from it and I don't blame him for this at all. It's especially why he was mostly anti-Sanders I think. I don't know. I haven't talked to him in years.

[benjipwns]

She's garbage and she screwed us. She should've never been a candidate.

The truth is the truth. Hillary Clinton wasn't an especially great candidate

Reading this, I think it's a good thing she lost

She was a bad candidate in an especially bad time for establishment candidates.

Well, it's not the Clintons. It's Hillary.

History will not look back kindly on Hillary.

I said this repeatedly early on, that in addition to being a bad candidate because of her wooden charisma and insularity

Hillary was a goddamn mistake.

Hillary was a bad candidate as well.

What a terrible campaign and even worse candidate.

ohhhh, now that you say it yeah i can see most qualified person ever might have been a bit over the top

[ToxicAdam]

What happens to the leftover campaign money once it's over?

It's at the discretion of the candidate what to do with it. Most save it for the next election, some donate it back to the party or some use it to fund future elections of protege's within their party.

[doctavius bonbon]

What happens to the leftover campaign money once it's over?

buying the largest supply of medicinal marijuana the world has ever seen.

gonna need it too.

[Tasty]

What happens to the leftover campaign money once it's over?

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Random image came from this article.

http://www.citizensgroup.us/hillary-clintons-alleged-cocaine-addiction/

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[Raist]

That locked thread about moderation is a gold mine

They are allowed. As long as they are not racist or something like that.

You won't get banned. It's just up to you to defend your opinion. If you do that in a good way, there is no problem. Most dog piling I have seen is because people can't articulate their position and refuse to answer why they believe something.

[benjipwns]

What happens to the leftover campaign money once it's over?

[thisismyusername]

That locked thread about moderation is a gold mine

Most dog piling I have seen is because people can't articulate their position and refuse to answer why they believe something.

Uh-huh. Right, GAF.

[Momo]

That cocaine looks like powdered milk

[Dennis]

What happens to the leftover campaign money once it's over?

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Random image came from this article.

http://www.citizensgroup.us/hillary-clintons-alleged-cocaine-addiction/

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Amir0x worked on Hillary's campaign?

[Tasty]

What happens to the leftover campaign money once it's over?

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Random image came from this article.

http://www.citizensgroup.us/hillary-clintons-alleged-cocaine-addiction/

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Amir0x worked on Hillary's campaign?

Why do you think GAF was the #5 referrer to her site?

[Take My Breh Away]

Y2Kev on suicide watch after that thread. How much did he claim to donate again?

Not sure about Kev, but Evilore donated $7500 to the Hillary campaign 

[thisismyusername]

I think Kev and a few others hit the donation limit. There was talk about that in the #5 referrer thread, if I remember right.

[james]

Shoulda been the first sign Hilldawg wasn't nearly as popular as she thought. If a site the size of neogaf is the 5th biggest referrer....but then that would require these people also realize that GAF isn't nearly as big as they seem to think it is. I don't think they could handle both of their world view bubbles popping in the same day.

I didnt see a single (not one) Hillary campaign sign this election.

Not one.

Yeah, Im in NJ, which is blue but...

There was a shit ton of Obama signs

Could Hilgaf tell me how this is someone else's fault or will I have to wait until February for them to see their shadows?

 

[Himu]

I didn't see a single Hillary sign but that doesn't mean her supporters didn't exist. She did win the popular vote after all. My family didn't have a sign this year but we did have an Obama/Biden sign. But my family was still furious pro-Hillary.

[thisismyusername]

That's true. A lot of Hillary supporter signs weren't around. But there was a bunch of Trump, weirdly. Either that "alt-right told them to hide it" theory is true, or whatever. Who can say.

Either way, Hillary having GAF be a top-5 referrer instead of places like Reddit or Digg or Facebook (though I think Facebook was on it? Been a while) should've been not-necessarily alarm bells but worrying in regards to online presence. IIRC, Trump didn't even campaign online ads while Hillary did.

The power of /pol/ and alt-right subreddits, I guess?


Actually, thinking on it: Trump signs were vandalized by apparent Hillary supporters. And (around here anyway) there was a few vandalism on Trump supporters houses. So I guess Hillary supporters didn't put up signs because the election was nasty.

In fact, I loathed both candidates and wish the election was different (Bush vs Sanders at least), but alas.

Anyway, game finished downloading now. I'll see you guys when Andy's Hillary hurt (despite me telling him the "bitchslap" was strongly possible) is soothed later next week I guess.

[Himu]

I only saw two Trump signs but my county voted Hillary.

[Nola]

I don't agree with the method or means of BLM either. I find it too focused on one issue. Although that issue is life - a very important issue - it does not hope to consider the ways that cause police brutality. Police brutality is a serious issue, but what's also even more serious is the person who thinks a black person whose car is wrecked after an accident is inherently dangerous and calls the police telling them that they're going to be robbed. The police will have to respond with force if they're told there's a robbery, and what could have been prevented in the first place cut aside for absolute distrust in wide swaths of black people. By concentrating on police brutality you focus on a symptom, not the cause. It's also no surprise many black lives matter people like Kaepernik didn't vote. Even if he didn't agree with the president candidates, there was a down ticket prop about speeding up the process for the death penalty, which unequivocally effects black men. Still, he decided to sit his mulatto ass down. BLM is all talk, no real answers. I abandoned the organization earlier this year. I'd love to make my own organization but don't know how, have the time, nor the willpower.

I am not in the black community or a minority, so I may be missing some obvious blind spots, so feel free to point out any ignorance in my thinking. But in all this stuff over the last couple of years, namely the marginalization of BLM, Trump's coalition, Democratic disregard for minority issues at higher levels of government(sans a lukewarm mobilization for a path to citizenship), and growing and intensifying Hispanic prejudice in the Republican party, might it be a good idea to try and pool resources and organize around some broad, common ground amongst black, receptive latino groups and maybe other minority groups to form a stronger political foundation from which to fight with? At least on those broad, common ground issues?

[VomKriege]

Y2kev pantsuit lobbyist confirmed.

He did allude in a post today working something like bank or finance I believe. Not important anyway.
I don't have a problem with him or anyone donating, or being passionate. The shilling was super obnoxious tho and as a mod he did set a terrible standard for discussion. The loss made him sober, so good on him.

[thisismyusername]

I am not in the black community or a minority, so I may be missing some obvious blind spots. But in all this stuff over the last couple of years, namely the marginalization of BLM, Trump's coalition, Democratic disregard for minority issues at higher levels of government(sans a lukewarm mobilization for a path to citizenship), and growing and intensifying Hispanic prejudice in the Republican party, wouldn't it be a good idea to try and pool resources and find common ground between black, receptive latino and maybe other minority groups to form a stronger political foundation from which to fight with? At least on those broad, common ground issues?

--Oops, I lied. Quick response on this and I'm sure Himu will chime in in agreement but: Yeah. And at the same time, those groups need to go to rural areas and see the (totally not racist) white folks that are suffering there and try to work with the two parties (mostly democrats) on having policies that benefit EVERYONE.

IMO, "Black Lives Matters" died as soon as they said "Black" in the title. You can roll your eyes and go "Yeah, but 'All Lives Matter' is strongly dismissive" and yes, the folks that used it did hurt that being picked up. But there has to be a better slogan to push THAT issue along with other races issues.

[Himu]

I don't agree with the method or means of BLM either. I find it too focused on one issue. Although that issue is life - a very important issue - it does not hope to consider the ways that cause police brutality. Police brutality is a serious issue, but what's also even more serious is the person who thinks a black person whose car is wrecked after an accident is inherently dangerous and calls the police telling them that they're going to be robbed. The police will have to respond with force if they're told there's a robbery, and what could have been prevented in the first place cut aside for absolute distrust in wide swaths of black people. By concentrating on police brutality you focus on a symptom, not the cause. It's also no surprise many black lives matter people like Kaepernik didn't vote. Even if he didn't agree with the president candidates, there was a down ticket prop about speeding up the process for the death penalty, which unequivocally effects black men. Still, he decided to sit his mulatto ass down. BLM is all talk, no real answers. I abandoned the organization earlier this year. I'd love to make my own organization but don't know how, have the time, nor the willpower.

I am not in the black community or a minority, so I may be missing some obvious blind spots, so feel free to point out any ignorance in my thinking. But in all this stuff over the last couple of years, namely the marginalization of BLM, Trump's coalition, Democratic disregard for minority issues at higher levels of government(sans a lukewarm mobilization for a path to citizenship), and growing and intensifying Hispanic prejudice in the Republican party, might it be a good idea to try and pool resources and organize around some broad, common ground amongst black, receptive latino groups and maybe other minority groups to form a stronger political foundation from which to fight with? At least on those broad, common ground issues?

I am from the most diverse city in America.

I'll tell you this: we are already doing that. We have formed alliances beyond racial lines and there's a broad brown and black alliance now. This includes lgbtq although it is not racial. At least, this is true of my city and among activist organizations. My cities activists won. Our organization is so thorough that Salon ran an article on how we are combining forces to tackle the same problems.

So we're already a step ahead of you.

[Steve Contra]

God damn Houston is a weird fucking city.

[Himu]

How so?

[seagrams hotsauce]

Trump got elected and somehow that resulted in getting Himu and Timu on roughly the same page, so welcome to bizzaro world everybody

[Himu]

Who is Timu?

[seagrams hotsauce]

thisismyusername

[zepblackstar]

The entertaining thing out of this is watching celebs just going apeshit over Trump and election night pics

http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/,scalefit_950_800_noupscale/5822a905150000b700532908.jpeg

[VomKriege]

So apparently this dude from Hello Games has jumped ship to CIG, the makers of Star Citizen...?
https://twitter.com/GjBourn

[seagrams hotsauce]

Dude apparently went from Lionhead to HG to CIG. It's like the hat trick of itsfuckingnothing.gif studios lol

[Dennis]

So apparently this dude from Hello Games has jumped ship to CIG, the makers of Star Citizen...?
https://twitter.com/GjBourn

Dude apparently went from Lionhead to HG to CIG. It's like the hat trick of itsfuckingnothing.gif studios lol

Well, that is a confidence-booster.

 

[Himu]

I am not in the black community or a minority, so I may be missing some obvious blind spots. But in all this stuff over the last couple of years, namely the marginalization of BLM, Trump's coalition, Democratic disregard for minority issues at higher levels of government(sans a lukewarm mobilization for a path to citizenship), and growing and intensifying Hispanic prejudice in the Republican party, wouldn't it be a good idea to try and pool resources and find common ground between black, receptive latino and maybe other minority groups to form a stronger political foundation from which to fight with? At least on those broad, common ground issues?

--Oops, I lied. Quick response on this and I'm sure Himu will chime in in agreement but: Yeah. And at the same time, those groups need to go to rural areas and see the (totally not racist) white folks that are suffering there and try to work with the two parties (mostly democrats) on having policies that benefit EVERYONE.

IMO, "Black Lives Matters" died as soon as they said "Black" in the title. You can roll your eyes and go "Yeah, but 'All Lives Matter' is strongly dismissive" and yes, the folks that used it did hurt that being picked up. But there has to be a better slogan to push THAT issue along with other races issues.

Mmmmm, nope. BLM is kind of fine. Their platform is specifically police brutality and black lives...well, mattering more than they are now. Their goal isn't to end all racial oppression or even target white supremacy. It's like expecting the national heart association to suddenly start advocating for lung cancer. This is why I abandoned BLM; there are more organizations that target all of racial problems in Americs today without concentrating on one specific issue. That said, BLM has my support and many of these organizations work with BLM. BLM would do better with restructuring and more organization and I think this election will assist with that ignoring smart dumb niccas like Kaepernik. The main issue with BLM is that it is entirely single issue. To be fair, it's an important issue.

The problem is that it throws too many under the bus. You don't see them giving much of a shit when a black man used backpage.com to go on a murder spree to kill two (and almost kill another) black trans women. You will not see BLM talk about black on black violence. And becore anyone white mentions it, this is a huge thing in the black community. Much like how I may have blind spots about rural whites, you will have blind spots about black people and our community. You won't see BLM protesting mass incarceration which limits  the amount of black people that can vote. You won't see BLM protest vote voting repression. That's not to say BLM cannot change or does not have legitimate merit for existing. Recently the organization I'm a part of joined up with numerous other orgs. I'm busy because of work but the main goal of the election beyond making Houston blue was to vote Ed Gonzales into office as sheriff. Currently Houston had an incarceration issue regarding Latinos and black folks to the point where people have to sleep on the floor directly due to the policies of the current city sheriff. BLM and other orgs combined forces to get Gonzales into office and we did. Now it's not like these organizations don't have value or don't do anything good. These just need more purposeful drive that attacks change through local politics to make positive change rather than be (understandably) reactionary to national deaths. Alone, I think BLM is too single issue; but when combined and supported with other organizations they're a potential strong force in blue areas or potentially blue areas. So they're starting to do good work but it is worrying when Trump says he will classify BLM as a terrorist organization.

As for rural locations, I'm not sure how to even go about that.

[daemon]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223984707&postcount=94

So....were did all the money raised for the Clinton campaign go ?

Down the toilet, sure but what did they spend it on.

The rights to "Fight Song".

This sums up how tax money would've been spent too. Bullet dodged.