VOAT Containment Megathread of Trash People for Trash People

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224883732&postcount=5

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224884524&postcount=7

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224906463&postcount=7725

Having been invited to a public gala for the Russia Today network is apparently enough proof that all Flynn and Stein are really Mandchurian candidates.
Detective-GAF upgraded to Foreign Intelligence GAF.

[benjipwns]

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i said hillary was a russian plant to get trump elected!

[stufte]

She looks like a cat high on catnip in that pic.

[VomKriege]

Obviously hypnotised. Same as Dubya : remember when he gazed into Putin's eyes...

[FStop7]

Putin's even creepier when he's attempting to smile, Christ

[stufte]

Putin's even creepier when he's attempting to smile, Christ

[Mr. Nobody]

Hillary's expressions are underrated

[FStop7]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1316736

This thread is making the weird Kanye fetishists divide by zero

[Himu]

Hillary's expressions are underrated

(Image removed from quote.)

http://i.imgur.com/Jg0gWBo.mp4

[Yoritomo]

Still trying to figure out why I got banned 

[stufte]

Still trying to figure out why I got banned 

What did your ban message say?

[clothedmacuser]

You were able to read,


"Bigotry and hate speech will not be tolerated, and you will also not scream and threaten and run someone out of town at any hint of who they may have voted for or what party they affiliate with."

as, "It's already been proclaimed that racists will no longer be held accountable for their thoughts and actions here."

This is scorched earth radical partisanship where everyone who does not say exactly what you want to hear is now the Enemy, including anyone even noting that it's happening.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224949474&postcount=1492

I'm not going to tell you to "calm down" or whatever. Any amount of anger at America's present outcome is justifiable.

However, open and civil discourse remain mandatory here. This website is not a radical militant organization.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224953632&postcount=1509



Something is happening!

[VomKriege]

Yup. For those that don't know, Mike Huckabee is a fucking person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation, in other words he believes the apocalypse is near and actively wants to start it because he thinks that will bring Jesus back to Earth. I am not fucking kidding.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224950653&postcount=7995

((( )))

Ironic that rich people care more about social issues than poor working class whites. To hear the talk now, I thought rich people were the devil, and that we needed to unite to work with the WWC.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224944287&postcount=7962

I don't mind Dems appealing to these types, provided that it's done in a manner consistent with Dem party values. They can also nakedly manipulate them, and I'm OK with that too.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224942409&postcount=7956

Progressivism in 2016 : it's weird.

Fillon is another Putin admirer, but he also wants to make France far more economically conservative which is a big break from most Western nationalists. Fillon is probably the closest western nationalist to Trump based on that.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224948742&postcount=7981

This one will be lost on most of you but  characterising Fillon as a nationalist is a bit weird. Sarkozy is actually the one who panders shamelessly to the far right. Fillon is getting hard at the idea of slashing public jobs. He's obviously not the most "Trump like" candidate in an election where a populist far right candidate is present. He's mostly nationalist insofar the conservative party is. He indeed has the reputation of knowing Putin well, but so do a lot of political figures... Sarkozy as President sold two warships to Russia and that was a far more radical way of outreaching to them (the deal fell apart because of the renewed clash between Russia and the EU, ships were sold to Egypt ultimately).

[zomgee]

You were able to read,


"Bigotry and hate speech will not be tolerated, and you will also not scream and threaten and run someone out of town at any hint of who they may have voted for or what party they affiliate with."

as, "It's already been proclaimed that racists will no longer be held accountable for their thoughts and actions here."

This is scorched earth radical partisanship where everyone who does not say exactly what you want to hear is now the Enemy, including anyone even noting that it's happening.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224949474&postcount=1492

I'd say 75% of the current moderation team would have banned a user for saying that.

[Dennis]

You were able to read,


"Bigotry and hate speech will not be tolerated, and you will also not scream and threaten and run someone out of town at any hint of who they may have voted for or what party they affiliate with."

as, "It's already been proclaimed that racists will no longer be held accountable for their thoughts and actions here."

This is scorched earth radical partisanship where everyone who does not say exactly what you want to hear is now the Enemy, including anyone even noting that it's happening.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224949474&postcount=1492

I'm not going to tell you to "calm down" or whatever. Any amount of anger at America's present outcome is justifiable.

However, open and civil discourse remain mandatory here. This website is not a radical militant organization.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224953632&postcount=1509

Again, as I have said before I basically agree with EviLore's stance but his moderation team isn't moderating the forum like that and haven't been for a long while now.

I don't know if EviLore isn't bothering to check who is being banned and why but:

1. People are being banned just because some mods disagrees with them - even when the poster is being perfectly civil.

2. The good long-time posters who made the forum a joy to read have to a large degree been purged over the last few years and NeoGAF is much poorer for it. What has been the point of that?

[daemon]

Still trying to figure out why I got banned 

What did your ban message say?

Something snarky, for sure. They just love making one-liners you can't retort.

Again, as I have said before I basically agree with EviLore's stance but his moderation team isn't moderating the forum like that and haven't been for the last few years.

I don't know if EviLore isn't bothering to check who is being banned and why but:

1. People are being banned just because some mods disagrees with them - even when the poster is being perfectly civil.

2. The good long-time posters who made the forum a joy to read have to a large degree been purged over the last few years and NeoGAF is much poorer for it. What has been the point of that?

Oh, he knows that alright. Like, he knows exactly what kind of public broadened the website visits, thanks to all the trackers he's got. He's probably got a profile, and those old charming posters who might have a "difficult rethoric" to adapt to are gone. Long gone are the days were neoGAF could discuss games as entertainment. The ad money is with the numbers, and they somehow believe that divisive posters that just outright ban-bait everyone are what will keep the site alive. EL knows perfectly what he's doing. When I called him out on twitter for ransoming a user 1k dollars to keep his account, he blocked me.

I just hope for his own good that he diversified his fortune. Because something more "inclusive" will eventually come to happen, and then regular users without pretentions will not be there to pick up his forum.

[CatsCatsCats]

Mine said account suicide. Cuz I made some comment about Tyler sexually harassing a foreigner.

This was many moons ago 🌙 

[benjipwns]

Yup. For those that don't know, Mike Huckabee is a fucking person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation, in other words he believes the apocalypse is near and actively wants to start it because he thinks that will bring Jesus back to Earth. I am not fucking kidding.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224950653&postcount=7995

Well, that's one definition of Zionism certainly.

[daemon]

Mine said account suicide. Cuz I made some comment about Tyler sexually harassing a foreigner.

This was many moons ago 🌙

It's pretty sad, really. He did do something bad. Not THAT bad. Not like omg lock him up in a jail bad. At least not back in the day.

Right now on his forum, was this anyone but EL, they'd be making boycott threads about the guy who thought groping the ass of a woman in a spanish bar was a cultural thing.

[railGUN]

EviLore doesn't even read NeoGAF 

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what the fuck am I doing with my life 

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[benjipwns]

it's hard to read when you're fightin dudes in the street and all these mobile ads keep popping up

[railGUN]

Maybe "Report this ad" actually sends the advertisers information directly to Lore, who then physically tracks them down and defeats them in combat.

In David Bowie cosplay.

 

[Nola]

You were able to read,


"Bigotry and hate speech will not be tolerated, and you will also not scream and threaten and run someone out of town at any hint of who they may have voted for or what party they affiliate with."

as, "It's already been proclaimed that racists will no longer be held accountable for their thoughts and actions here."

This is scorched earth radical partisanship where everyone who does not say exactly what you want to hear is now the Enemy, including anyone even noting that it's happening.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224949474&postcount=1492

I'm not going to tell you to "calm down" or whatever. Any amount of anger at America's present outcome is justifiable.

However, open and civil discourse remain mandatory here. This website is not a radical militant organization.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224953632&postcount=1509

Again, as I have said before I basically agree with EviLore's stance but his moderation team isn't moderating the forum like that and haven't been for a long while now.

I don't know if EviLore isn't bothering to check who is being banned and why but:

1. People are being banned just because some mods disagrees with them - even when the poster is being perfectly civil.

2. The good long-time posters who made the forum a joy to read have to a large degree been purged over the last few years and NeoGAF is much poorer for it. What has been the point of that?

Agreed.

Reading his posts and seeing his recent re-emergence, Evilore was probably shook like a lot of us with Trump and is just now taking a bit of a stroll through OT GAF and is realizing how much of a fucking gutter it has become. 

Good on him for calling out some of the shit behavior but it is all for nothing if he doesn't take steps to change shit with posters and moderation.

Like he called out Frozenprince who has turned his schtick up from a 9 or 10 to a fucking 35 over the last week and when evilore called him out he just migrated to a bunch of other threads and started the same shit at the same decibel....I mean the least evilore could do is urban Benji so he can go to work in some of these threads. That's the real injustice of this crazy election, forcing his talent to rot in this cesspool of deplorables.

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[Cerveza mas fina]

why bother making gaf great again when we got the bore

i day let em burn

[Let's Cyber]

The good long-time posters who made the forum a joy to read have to a large degree been purged over the last few years and NeoGAF is much poorer for it. What has been the point of that?

Off topic was already in steep decline 6 or 7 years ago.  The last 18 months it finally went terminal.  Gaming side started to suck before that.   

You're romanticizing this supposed "joy to read" period breh.

 

[Let's Cyber]

But, I do agree Lore should have been more attentive in the community he was cultivating and the members he was elevating or exiling these last few years but the ship has sailed.

You can see him chafing against his creation now. 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224989206&postcount=1514

He can't just roll back the community at this point.   

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

As I've said numerous times, GAF went to shit somewhere around 2007.  It's around the time he started flooding the board with GameFAQs and 4chan refugees.  In our current year, NeoGAF can only aspire to be as good as GameFAQs.

[Optimus]

Response to Evilore's bullshit post:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224899590&postcount=330

This might have been a useful post if A) you had written it about 2 years ago B) there was any chance whatsoever that your moderation staff was actually going to play by these rules and C) you posted it somewhere visible instead of burying it in the middle of some low-traffic thread, at the bottom of the page. If only you knew someone that could sticky it!

And the shocking development:

Banned


edit: Wait, this actually happened?

It's just curious to me that if the rhetoric from the moderation team is providing a safe space for both political parties to coalesce on this forum, why did they ban that one guy who was venting his anger over a friend's passing while in support of Trump's wall?

He had people calling him "a fucking cunt" for being naturally saddened by his buddy's OD. Instead of discussing the issue, mods banned him for the content.

I don't know...OT seems to be leaning heavily in one direction and that makes it difficult to neuter the hate that is communicated around here.

Absolutely despicable if true.


 

[Take My Breh Away]

RIP Verendus. Claimed to have a copy of FFXV and giving "Impressions". Murdered by the Kotaku reporter who said everything he talks about is from the trailers and he's full of shit.   

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224997426&postcount=1739

[VomKriege]

Verendus was downright terrible, never understood why he was taken seriously and had his own GAF cheerleading team. When will GAF learn that wishy-washy "insiders" dropping vague "leaks" on the regular and on a wide variety of unrelated titles always get outed as full of shit ?

Not a big fan of Schreier but he has done decent reporting and has more credibility. Hilarious to see people taking shots at him. Kotaku may be a shit site, but it's actually a press outlet, Schreier credentials are public for anyone to be crosschecked and he actually has something at stake if he start making bullshit allegations on a forum.

In memoriam, his latest hit :

There's no implication in Andrew's words that Sony doesn't need to be reactive. Pro has been in the works for over two years, and is a clear part of the natural progression the company sees for its platform. PS4 is slowly entering the part of its lifecyle where it will appeal to more price conscious consumers, but at the same time, this generation has clearly displayed that developers require more time to truly take advantage of the hardware they have. A lesson that is somewhat being carried over from the previous generation. This means the generation isn't going to be short, and for it to make sense for us and publishing partners, we have to think on the macrolevel of allowing them to take advantage of things for an extended period of time while not allowing the technology to stagnate as much as it did last generation. It's also a step for us and our developers to the next big thing.

That's what PS4 Pro represents. It's a console that the first party teams will take good advantage of, and all third parties will be use to some varying degree. It's there for the enthusiasts who want the added power and increased visual fidelity, but it's also priced sensibly enough that those who tend to sit on the fence will inevitably have their eyes move in that direction as time goes on. That is foresight, and it's very much the same hungry Sony.

What exactly would be the purpose to react to a console we've become aware of recently, and isn't going to be launched for another year? I don't see Scorpio, and think it's a potential problem. I see it, and know they were caught unaware. The difference is not significant enough to give pause. It's them reacting to what has been done, and trying to undermine the PS4 Pro in advance of its launch.

But we have the largest userbase. Publishers will cater to us first. PS4 Pro isn't going to be neglected in favor of Scorpio. Maybe there'll be some Scorpio games that look better than some of the PS4 Pro games, but it'll mean little in the grand scheme of things. It's clear to me that they made a desperate move, and they're planning on releasing it towards the end of 2017. By the time it launches, Pro will have sold between 5-10 million consoles. And by the time it starts getting into the swing of things, PS5 will be on the horizon and the leap between them will be significant because it will represent a generational leap. The only losers in this scenario will be the few Scorpio buyers who buy into the late move by Microsoft, because it's not only late, but it's also not significant enough that those who have bought the PS4 Pro will somehow feel like they've lost out.

As Denzel puts it. This is chess, not checkers. And Microsoft played themselves because Sony is too busy playing with God.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216291141&postcount=134

 

[Raist]

RIP Verendus. Claimed to have a copy of FFXV and giving "Impressions". Murdered by the Kotaku reporter who said everything he talks about is from the trailers and he's full of shit.   

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224997426&postcount=1739

Something something pot something kettle

[daemon]

it's hard to read when you're fightin dudes in the street and all these mobile ads keep popping up

Calm and resolved after 1000 malware ads.

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224998236&postcount=1763

"But Verendus predicted the FFVII remake !"
Because nobody expected that at one point in the future.

[nudemacusers]

Wow a gaf insider full of shit? Certainly an event without precedent.

[mormapope]

Gaf "insiders" have always been incredibly desperate sacks of shit that live off of nerdy 20's and 30's somethings sucking their balls for massaging a preconceived idea or bias. The amount of unfunny shit Verendus' posts could fill a book.

[zomgee]

you dummies he wasn't bish checked

[Himu]

I still don't understand why kinitari was banned in that one thread.

[VomKriege]

I still don't understand why kinitari was banned in that one thread.

Bans for the ban god.

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A propos of nothing : with the amount of mods GAF has, wouldn't be surprised some amount of bans to be a way to justify their own existence.

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[Raist]

I still don't understand why kinitari was banned in that one thread.

Which one?

[VomKriege]

Hi, yesterday after I played FFXv in pro 4k with HDR, my life has changed forever.
That is all.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=225003564&postcount=1915

I'm talking about the Japanese Demo judgment disc.
Game changer.
Just the demo alone has me ranking FFXv top games of all time.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=225003903&postcount=1931

[Shuri]

The OT was fun for the wacky threads, weird shit and hilarious backfires. Now it reads like a facebook feed populated by first year college students

[Momo]

why bother making gaf great again when we got the bore

i day let em burn

This.

Some of you that have GAF accounts should lure a couple of people over, while not being the most prolific poster myself, I feel the bore is like 20 or so active posters away from being fully self sustaining. Hopefully Euro posters cause I never have anyone to talk with when you guys go to sleep 

[CatsCatsCats]

why bother making gaf great again when we got the bore

i day let em burn

This.

Some of you that have GAF accounts should lure a couple of people over, while not being the most prolific poster myself, I feel the bore is like 20 or so active posters away from being fully self sustaining. Hopefully Euro posters cause I never have anyone to talk with when you guys go to sleep 

Lol no we don't need anyone on GAF that isn't already here

[zepblackstar]

Now curious about the about face or did he just realize neogaf is viewed as a joke?

[Nola]

Now curious about the about face or did he just realize neogaf is viewed as a joke?

Whatever it is, those two bannings posted a few posts above, and the facts in them, illustrate to me evilore has identified the symptoms but he is ignorant to the disease causing it or the obvious solutions.

[Klelk]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1317549

Somehow my "fuck whitey" account got banned but this thread is fine? Cmon

[Averon]

Where did this sudden self-reflection from 'Lore came from? I find it hard to believe he was completely ignorant of the state of the forum. Some of the stuff he touched upon has been a problem on the site for years.

[Take My Breh Away]

Where did this sudden self-reflection from 'Lore is coming from? I find it hard to believe 'Lore was completely ignorant of the state of the forum. Some of the stuff he's touching upon has been a problem for years.

He's probably noticed that site profits are down

[benjipwns]

If anything that's "racism" against white supremacists. Fuck off OP.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=225016956&postcount=204
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=225017022&postcount=208
 

bish must have gotten a talking to, that thread isn't a graveyard at all right now

[Dennis]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1317549

Somehow my "fuck whitey" account got banned but this thread is fine? Cmon

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=225017235&postcount=224

Stop trying to make "fetch" a thing. It ain't gonna happen.

What did bishoptl mean by this?

[benjipwns]

more importantly how did i not know about this amazing garbage website



 

[benjipwns]

What did bishoptl mean by this?

mean girls yo

[Optimus]

Where did this sudden self-reflection from 'Lore came from? I find it hard to believe he was completely ignorant of the state of the forum. Some of the stuff he touched upon has been a problem on the site for years.

I repeat, he writes these posts almost every year then forget about them, the man is insane. Btw he wrote a very identical post to this one when besada was exposed for the dogmatic weasel he is iirc (PM leak). You know a forum is doomed when a mod admits that they ban people for wrongthink and nothing happens to him.

[benjipwns]

MEAAAAAAN GIRLS 

[Yoritomo]

Still trying to figure out why I got banned 

What did your ban message say?

"NO handwaving today. Or ever."

I was stirring shit in every echo chamber  and post election analysis freakout thread, so I figured it was coming. I can't help it. I still can't figure out if people are serious or not. Not going home for thanksgiving or seeing your parents ever again because they voted for trump? JFC 

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=225019989&postcount=2152

We are in a post-truth world.

Some fucking transparent console warrior fooled gaffers because they're dumb (or a combinaison of self delusion and confirmation bias). It's not some exceptional case in human science.
 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=225020154&postcount=2155

It bears specifically mentioning (again) that the mod team has had suspicions on the validity of Verendus' claims for years. The posts specifically in this thread have not been verified by us. We're actually waiting on a response on this.

 

Sure, Jan. 

[zepblackstar]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1317540

Someone looking to kiss that ass.

[zomgee]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=225019989&postcount=2152

We are in a post-truth world.

Some fucking transparent console warrior fooled gaffers because they're dumb (or a combinaison of self delusion and confirmation bias). It's not some exceptional case in human science.
 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=225020154&postcount=2155

It bears specifically mentioning (again) that the mod team has had suspicions on the validity of Verendus' claims for years. The posts specifically in this thread have not been verified by us. We're actually waiting on a response on this.

 

Sure, Jan. 

Wait, Falk worked (or works) on FFXV?

[daemon]

Where did this sudden self-reflection from 'Lore came from? I find it hard to believe he was completely ignorant of the state of the forum. Some of the stuff he touched upon has been a problem on the site for years.

I repeat, he writes these posts almost every year then forget about them, the man is insane. Btw he wrote a very identical post to this one when besada was exposed for the dogmatic weasel he is iirc (PM leak). You know a forum is doomed when a mod admits that they ban people for wrongthink and nothing happens to him.

And that he has protegees, which probably have over 20 bans by now. very aggressive posters that insult their way into arguments. Of course if you were to insult him you'd get the appropriate length ban (like, if your previous one was one month, this one would be 2 months). He instead gets a couple weeks tops.

[VomKriege]

Wait, Falk worked (or works) on FFXV?

Well that makes two Square insiders in the mod team with Kagari then !

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