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« Reply #1560 on: January 06, 2017, 06:00:03 PM »
https://twitter.com/VicenteFoxQue/status/817480450285375488
This is it, this is modern history. In a few more decades Twitter posts are going to be embedded in textbooks, and when we discuss our Great Wall there will be a tweet of a former Mexican president saying "when will you understand that I am not paying for that fucken wall" to represent Mexico's position.

https://twitter.com/VicenteFoxQue/status/817502062170738689

Wonder how Trump will go four years constantly being reminded he lost the popular vote despite being assisted by the Russians :whew

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« Reply #1561 on: January 06, 2017, 06:19:32 PM »
Vicente Fox was kind of trump-like, thought. Not as malicious or confrontational, but he was a pretty outspoken businessman that thought he could manage a nation as a bussines while speaking out anything he crossed  in his mind.

He is not wrong, thought. People here are not going to be thrilled to be forced to pay for a Wall.

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« Reply #1562 on: January 06, 2017, 06:34:01 PM »
Dubya's supporters were never really bothered by the deficits he ran as president. The profile of a Trump supporter is a bit different, but I don't think they're going to care way more about policy details and fiscal responsibility.

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« Reply #1563 on: January 06, 2017, 07:31:24 PM »
Dubya's supporters were never really bothered by the deficits he ran as president. The profile of a Trump supporter is a bit different, but I don't think they're going to care way more about policy details and fiscal responsibility.

Trump supporters already got the two things they most wanted: annoying liberals and avoiding a Hillary Clinton presidency. They're not gonna give a fuck.
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« Reply #1564 on: January 06, 2017, 07:57:23 PM »
Dubya's supporters were never really bothered by the deficits he ran as president. The profile of a Trump supporter is a bit different, but I don't think they're going to care way more about policy details and fiscal responsibility.

Unsurprisingly not just an american thing.
They won't give a rat's ass about deficits unless a default is around the corner, as long as they have the impression they get what they want (the Wall, keeping browns out, jobs). It's probably a losing battle to attack them on this, no matter how ridiculous the dissonance. However I think people can be receptive to specific wasteful spending or corruption.
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« Reply #1565 on: January 06, 2017, 08:01:19 PM »
As long as the deficit spending isn't being used to support welfare queens or abortions, conservatives will be happy.
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« Reply #1566 on: January 06, 2017, 08:21:36 PM »
Dubya's supporters were never really bothered by the deficits he ran as president. The profile of a Trump supporter is a bit different, but I don't think they're going to care way more about policy details and fiscal responsibility.

Trump supporters already got the two things they most wanted: annoying liberals and avoiding a Hillary Clinton presidency. They're not gonna give a fuck.

Then there are the millions of independents that also voted for Trump to give the middle finger to the establishment. These ones are probably gonna care.

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« Reply #1567 on: January 07, 2017, 04:31:32 PM »
https://twitter.com/Montel_Williams/status/817837629227945984

On the lighter side. Four years of Republicans hating each other :whew

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« Reply #1568 on: January 07, 2017, 07:00:30 PM »
https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/status/817386622299705349

This is all a distraction from the fact that Donald Trump will be sworn in as president on January 20th. Please contact Twitter support and tell them to stop falling for these tweets.
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« Reply #1569 on: January 07, 2017, 08:14:49 PM »
Vicente Fox was kind of trump-like, thought. Not as malicious or confrontational, but he was a pretty outspoken businessman that thought he could manage a nation as a bussines while speaking out anything he crossed  in his mind.

This is kinda what makes his trolling of Trump so entertaining/cathartic tho (even though AFAICT he wasn't a very good president of Mexico)
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« Reply #1570 on: January 08, 2017, 02:59:39 AM »
https://theintercept.com/2016/12/29/top-secret-snowden-document-reveals-what-the-nsa-knew-about-previous-russian-hacking/

Something about the fact that the NSA has an internal Wiki that lifts incomplete and outdated entries from the standard Wikipedia before adding parts of their intel to it is kinda adorable.

:heart Awww who's the gigantic spy agency who has wikipages with less details about real world events than say, entries for the background plot details of characters on a fan Overwatch Wiki. :heart

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« Reply #1571 on: January 08, 2017, 03:36:30 AM »
Whats the reaction in the us to the russia "hacking" (ie just using a bit of its muscle to influence opinion online)

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« Reply #1572 on: January 08, 2017, 03:54:53 AM »
If you only visit select circle jerks it's TRUMP HAS COMMITTED TREASON, HE NEEDS TO BE ARRESTED IMMEDIATELY. Or THIS PROVES THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN, SOMEONE NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING.

If you visit other circle jerks it's GOOD, THIS IS WHAT HILLARY GETS FOR BEING CORRUPT AND OUR OWN PRESS NOT DOING ITS JOB. Or DEMOCRATS GET WHATS COMING TO THEM FOR ENCOURAGING FRAUD.

For the other 80% of the population, what do I look like, someone who stews in the juices of normal people?

I don't think there's been much polling on it yet, should be in a couple weeks probably?

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« Reply #1573 on: January 08, 2017, 12:26:25 PM »
I feel like outside of the two extremes that benji mentioned most people really don't care.
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« Reply #1574 on: January 08, 2017, 12:52:21 PM »
I'm not sure there's that much caring. Populace probably has a small sense that the US has been doing this sort of thing themselves.

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« Reply #1575 on: January 08, 2017, 01:16:51 PM »
I feel like outside of the two extremes that benji mentioned most people really don't care.

And that is a bit frightening TBH. On many levels.




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« Reply #1576 on: January 09, 2017, 02:11:18 AM »
I feel like outside of the two extremes that benji mentioned most people really don't care.

I wouldn't say "don't care", it is more like, what can we really do? There wasn't a single person who ran for president on either side that I wanted to see win, just people I didn't want to see win.
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« Reply #1577 on: January 09, 2017, 02:22:26 AM »
So with the Golden Globes speech the disabled reporter mocking is making the rounds again and apparently there's an sizeable population of people that have convinced themselves he wasn't mocking the disability.

It still surprises me sometimes to think that this wasn't over right there.

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« Reply #1578 on: January 09, 2017, 02:29:02 AM »
I feel like outside of the two extremes that benji mentioned most people really don't care.

I wouldn't say "don't care", it is more like, what can we really do? There wasn't a single person who ran for president on either side that I wanted to see win, just people I didn't want to see win.
I'll freely admit that I voted against one of the options more than I was voting for the one I checked off. :-[
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« Reply #1579 on: January 09, 2017, 09:25:33 AM »
So with the Golden Globes speech the disabled reporter mocking is making the rounds again and apparently there's an sizeable population of people that have convinced themselves he wasn't mocking the disability.

It still surprises me sometimes to think that this wasn't over right there.

They can deny it but Trump immediately bitched about it and denied it saying "who cares". Is very telling how thin skinned Trump is and how fast he shows it in public that I found difficult to care if his base thinks he is perfect.

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« Reply #1580 on: January 09, 2017, 09:25:34 AM »
We all know who WOULD CARE if Russia or anyone helped Obama/Hillary win.
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« Reply #1581 on: January 09, 2017, 10:35:17 AM »
We all know who WOULD CARE if Russia or anyone helped Obama/Hillary win.


...and who WOULDN'T care. AIPAC and the far-right Israeli government behind it that is carrying out ethnic cleansing as we speak have been helping politicians to win for decades. Nor Democrats or Republicans seem to care. They're all a bunch of fucking hypocrites.

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« Reply #1582 on: January 09, 2017, 07:30:14 PM »
Hollywood making headlines by attacking the president? Told you this is Bush redux, folks.  :doge

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« Reply #1583 on: January 09, 2017, 07:36:32 PM »
Why does anyone give a fuck what an actress has to say about Donald Trump? Why does anyone give a fuck what Donald Trump says about an actress? Is this really how the next 4-8 years are going to go?

 :goty2

Yeah, it's already starting with a whole lot of "look, over there!" while sneaky shit is happening in three other spots simultaneously.

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« Reply #1584 on: January 09, 2017, 10:39:35 PM »
We all know who WOULD CARE if Russia or anyone helped Obama/Hillary win.


...and who WOULDN'T care. AIPAC and the far-right Israeli government behind it that is carrying out ethnic cleansing as we speak have been helping politicians to win for decades. Nor Democrats or Republicans seem to care. They're all a bunch of fucking hypocrites.
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« Reply #1585 on: January 10, 2017, 01:03:14 AM »
Why does anyone give a fuck what an actress has to say about Donald Trump? Why does anyone give a fuck what Donald Trump says about an actress? Is this really how the next 4-8 years are going to go?

 :goty2

I live in Los Angeles, so maybe this is just an LA thing, but the number of women I know who were linking to that speech or making big FB essays about it was incredibly high.
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« Reply #1586 on: January 10, 2017, 03:10:16 AM »
Someone linked me this like the morning before Streep's speech.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-hollywood-values-updates-the-window-of-aspiration-hollywood-s-1483646240-htmlstory.html

It's a mess of an article, but it asks the question if hollywood has a liberal agenda, answers it  with No, because too many white men still, and then bemoans the lack of  working class issues in TV.

They just don't get it.

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« Reply #1587 on: January 10, 2017, 04:04:05 AM »
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« Reply #1588 on: January 10, 2017, 04:05:55 AM »
Someone linked me this like the morning before Streep's speech.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-hollywood-values-updates-the-window-of-aspiration-hollywood-s-1483646240-htmlstory.html

It's a mess of an article, but it asks the question if hollywood has a liberal agenda, answers it  with No, because too many white men still, and then bemoans the lack of  working class issues in TV.

They just don't get it.


I love how they've become so out of touch with reality that that think liberal means "not being a white man". Both sides are now a different insane cults of neoliberalism, holy shit it's fucking scary.


We all know who WOULD CARE if Russia or anyone helped Obama/Hillary win.


...and who WOULDN'T care. AIPAC and the far-right Israeli government behind it that is carrying out ethnic cleansing as we speak have been helping politicians to win for decades. Nor Democrats or Republicans seem to care. They're all a bunch of fucking hypocrites.
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Well, it's true though, what they're doing is the definition of ethnic cleansing.

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« Reply #1589 on: January 10, 2017, 11:58:05 AM »
Neoliberalism has to be the most abused phrase in American politics lol.

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« Reply #1590 on: January 10, 2017, 12:44:19 PM »

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« Reply #1591 on: January 10, 2017, 12:54:59 PM »
 :comeon
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« Reply #1592 on: January 10, 2017, 01:13:20 PM »
Neoliberalism has to be the most abused phrase in American politics lol.
This is true, but it's a clumsy moniker anyway. Still, it's so abused now that you see it and wonder what the fuck the person thinks it means (I mean Optimus obviously doesn't know).
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« Reply #1593 on: January 10, 2017, 01:40:32 PM »
I think it's confusing to people because, for instance, the Reagan Administration was both neoliberal and neoconservative. It's just not very intuitive—especially with how liberal and conservative are used to define the general left/right dichotomy in the U.S.

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« Reply #1594 on: January 10, 2017, 01:49:59 PM »
Neoliberalism has to be the most abused phrase in American politics lol.


It is an accurate description of the current political state of the country and the world in general. No matter how much liberals cry about it, since it perfectly describes what they've degenerated into, we will continue to use it because it's extremely relevant.

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« Reply #1595 on: January 10, 2017, 01:56:47 PM »
tfw when Obama is both a Marxist and a Neoliberal :fbm
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« Reply #1596 on: January 10, 2017, 01:59:29 PM »
Neoliberalism has to be the most abused phrase in American politics lol.


It is an accurate description of the current political state of the country and the world in general. No matter how much liberals cry about it, since it perfectly describes what they've degenerated into, we will continue to use it because it's extremely relevant.

What exactly do you think neoliberalism means?

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« Reply #1597 on: January 10, 2017, 02:04:17 PM »
tfw when Obama is both a Marxist and a Neoliberal :fbm

Obama is a neoliberal. Exploiting republican ignorance as some form of argument isn't helping your side, it just further reinforces the perception that the two sides aren't much different afterall.

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« Reply #1598 on: January 10, 2017, 02:05:21 PM »
Neoliberalism has to be the most abused phrase in American politics lol.
Is it just me, or were the same people using "corporatist" 6-7 years ago? Sort of wonder at the switch. Feels like "neoliberal" has less oomph.

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« Reply #1599 on: January 10, 2017, 02:34:56 PM »
Neoliberalism has to be the most abused phrase in American politics lol.


It is an accurate description of the current political state of the country and the world in general. No matter how much liberals cry about it, since it perfectly describes what they've degenerated into, we will continue to use it because it's extremely relevant.

What exactly do you think neoliberalism means?


It expands from corporatism and the status quo of privatization on every facet of society which the US certainly meets to humongous wealth inequality, the deterioration of labor rights, corruption, war and globalization. Obama meets every single one of them. From him not prosecuting a single banker even when they were laundering money for terrorists and drug dealers, to ACA, TPP and his wars in Libya/Syria. Of course since liberals have become as gullible as conservatives I'm sure you have an explanation for every single one of those. He continued on the same path of capitalism for the poor socialism for the rich by bailing out the bankers and the auto industry while screwing everyone else including people with mortgages and auto workers, he continued on the same path of unending war to satisfy the military industrial complex.

Corporate profits rose from $671 billion at the end of 2008 to $1.636 trillion in 2016, and the wealth of the richest 400 Americans increased from $1.57 trillion to $2.4 trillion, meanwhile the middle class is dying. The overwhelming majority of the "millions of jobs he created" liberals are boasting about are part time or temp.

But seriously, the most important fact is this: I don't need to explain the term neoliberlism to liberals every fucking time I use the word, it's the economic far-right, no further explanation is needed. You don't see me asking what liberal means every time you people identify as one. This is part of the obnoxious dismissive behavior people hate about modern liberals which is part of the reason Trump was elected.

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« Reply #1600 on: January 10, 2017, 02:41:08 PM »
This is part of the obnoxious dismissive behavior people hate about modern liberals which is part of the reason Trump was elected.
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« Reply #1601 on: January 10, 2017, 02:42:56 PM »
This is part of the obnoxious dismissive behavior people hate about modern liberals which is part of the reason Trump was elected.
lol

Well, you certainly proved me wrong.

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« Reply #1602 on: January 10, 2017, 02:50:57 PM »
I mean, you clearly don't give a shit about maintaining a respectful tone or listening to people. How am I meant to take that, other than as a gag?

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« Reply #1603 on: January 10, 2017, 02:51:19 PM »
Dubya's supporters were never really bothered by the deficits he ran as president. The profile of a Trump supporter is a bit different, but I don't think they're going to care way more about policy details and fiscal responsibility.

Wasn't there a conservative backlash to Bush around 2006 because of this (and other issues)?  Granted, that could just be their excuse to jump ship as his ratings were falling, but it was a popular sentiment at the time.

edit: context http://www.salon.com/2006/02/09/right_backlash/


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« Reply #1604 on: January 10, 2017, 02:59:38 PM »
I mean, you clearly don't give a shit about maintaining a respectful tone or listening to people. How am I meant to take that, other than as a gag?


Oh I listen. But I admit, after the thousandth time listening to the same obnoxious liberal talking point "BUT DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT NEOLIBERALISM MEANS?!" you tend to be less respectful. Still, I made an effort to explain.
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« Reply #1605 on: January 10, 2017, 02:59:52 PM »
Wasn't there a conservative backlash to Bush around 2006 because of this (and other issues)?  Granted, that could just be their excuse to jump ship as his ratings were falling, but it was a popular sentiment at the time.

Bingo. There was no GOP pushback in his first term when the big unfunded bills were passed (the tax cuts, the AUMF, Medicare Part D). When he became unpopular because of rising gas prices and other issues, conservative pundits tried to explain it as a result of him abandoning fiscal responsibility.

It was obviously not true but I kind of admire their chutzpah for saying it.


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« Reply #1607 on: January 10, 2017, 05:45:13 PM »
So who will President Pence pick as his VP for the 2020 election?
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« Reply #1610 on: January 10, 2017, 06:46:19 PM »
This shit seems too unbelievable. I'm just gonna stand over here in a corner and watch from a distance.
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« Reply #1611 on: January 10, 2017, 06:47:08 PM »
That's unbelievable to you?

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« Reply #1612 on: January 10, 2017, 06:48:12 PM »
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinger/these-reports-allege-trump-has-deep-ties-to-russia?utm_term=.kdz0v4Qbv#.vh0LZYjVZ

Holy shit some of that seems to be some narrow fucking source info.

If legit, hope this doc being leaked doesn't get those sources burned.  :-\
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« Reply #1613 on: January 10, 2017, 06:50:43 PM »
Time for Republican's to jack off Russia!

Sean Hannity's next segment: "I love Russia!"

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« Reply #1614 on: January 10, 2017, 06:54:59 PM »
That's unbelievable to you?

Absolutely. It sounds no different than the Hilary Pedo Ring shit. It's the most extreme shit one can imagine.

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« Reply #1615 on: January 10, 2017, 06:58:02 PM »
Mods, change thread title to Gold-Drenched please.

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« Reply #1616 on: January 10, 2017, 06:58:40 PM »
Haters wanna hate, Lovers wanna love. I don't even want none of the above. I want to piss on you.
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« Reply #1617 on: January 10, 2017, 07:03:36 PM »
President R. Kelly

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« Reply #1618 on: January 10, 2017, 07:04:51 PM »
Time for Republican's to jack off Russia!

Sean Hannity's next segment: "I love Russia!"
Wait, Sean already beat me to it!

www.thehill.com/homenews/media/313250-hannity-deletes-tweet-that-agreed-americans-should-make-russia-great-again
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« Reply #1619 on: January 10, 2017, 07:05:32 PM »
Buzzfed is probably the worst place to be the one revealing this stuff. Ate least both CNN and Buzzfed put a disclaimer that it could be a lot of BS.