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Himu

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« Reply #15660 on: March 21, 2018, 03:04:22 AM »
If you think my experiences with the left is merely limited to Reset...

In my experience the left hates freedom of speech. Not just on niche vidya boards but also on Reddit, Facebook, the behavior of companies like Google, non-social media sites. It’s even happened offline which forms the main brunt of my experience. Ever been called a coon and sellout because you disagree with BLM protesting Pride? I have. Ever been to a trans support group meeting and had anti-trans pro-NB propaganda, being told you’re transphobic because you mostly like men? I have. Ever been called a fascist supporter because you don’t think violence should be agenda number one? I have. They act just like Reset but in real life. You said the other day it was just guns. Nahhhhhh, fam. It’s a lot of things and all of them point to the left not liking dissent or free speech. People outright show disdain for free speech actually. I didn’t leave the left, the left left me. :yeshrug Fuck em.

So given their penchant for espousing socialist ideas combined with their hate of dissent? Pretty easy to see where the chips would fall.
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« Reply #15661 on: March 21, 2018, 03:06:57 AM »
If you think my experiences with the left is merely limited to Reset...

In my experience the left hates freedom of speech. Not just on niche vidya boards but also on Reddit, Facebook, the behavior of companies like Google, non-social media sites. It’s even happened offline which forms the main brunt of my experience. Ever been called a coon and sellout because you disagree with BLM protesting Pride? I have. Ever been to a trans support group meeting and had anti-trans pro-NB propaganda, being told your transphobic because you mostly like men? I have. They act just like Reset but in real life. You said the other day it was just guns. Nahhhhhh, fam. It’s a lot of things and all of them point to the left not liking dissent or free speech. People outright show disdain for free speech actually. I didn’t leave the left, the left left me. :yeshrug Fuck em.

So given their penchant for espousing socialist ideas combined with their hate of dissent? Pretty easy to see where the chips would fall.

Yeah the left left you. Because you’re crazy and hateful and twist social justice into some kind of conservative fetish

And good riddance.

 I can read the pure joy you get from sticking it to those dirty liberals from every word.

It’s honestly hilarious how totally unaware you are of how you come off from your words

Himu

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« Reply #15662 on: March 21, 2018, 03:09:34 AM »


Right.
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« Reply #15663 on: March 21, 2018, 03:11:13 AM »
Yeah post a shade throwing gif cause politics is like a game you can win by being the pettiest bitch possible, fam

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« Reply #15664 on: March 21, 2018, 03:21:45 AM »
I doubt they are Cindi, and like I said, I get where you are coming from with the criticisms of people on the left,  I have em too, though I think you are over-stating them quite a lot. But you seem to have an incredibly warped view of just what the other side looks like and how tolerant they actually are of not just free speech, but really your basic humanity.

Just on a whim I googled for you what the most popular regional message board where I live in the south had to say about the Trump transgender ban and the protests immediately following it:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

[close]

I didn't cherry pick, those are just first three responses. I've come across far worse. I'm only really familiar with it because it unfortunately houses a sub-forum that is the largest New Orleans Pelicans community in the state and they pass along breaking news faster than anywhere else. Thankfully they are fairly insulated from the rest of the community. But it's not dissimilar from the nonsense I see on The_Donald, 4chan, or the right-wing pockets of twitter, and frankly, far more tolerant than what you get going to the fringes of the right that you place Resetera at on the left.

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« Reply #15665 on: March 21, 2018, 03:23:16 AM »
Cindi seriously though, your problem is authoritarianism not the left. The Cream is the kind of lunatic you and I dislike but not because he's left, his entire ideology is based on intersectionality an inherently authoritarian ideology that has been fully adopted by corporations, media and the status quo so this shit obviously is not left, you can still be left and oppose these fucking lunatics.

I'm saying all this because you show clear signs of many young Trump supporters who were basically pushed to that position by the SJW plague that painted them as villains for disagreeing with them. Don't fall for the either or trap, you don't need to be part of one of the two main groups both full of complete morons.

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« Reply #15666 on: March 21, 2018, 03:29:34 AM »
Intersectionality is an inherently authoritarian ideology wtf

Wanna run that by me again, boss?

Himu

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« Reply #15667 on: March 21, 2018, 03:36:39 AM »
Optimus:

That would suppose that this behavior isn’t left doctrine. It is. When you realize it is, you realize that the systems they espouse naturally fall into disarray and why all socialist/communist regimes fall into some form of totalitarianism. These aren’t just quirks or just bugs, they’re core parts of the ideology. That’s why it fails. To the United States’ credit, despite its excesses and flaws it has been a roaring success and there’s far more opportunity than what they would offer. The conclusion? Leftism is a failure because it doesn’t properly manage the human factor. Since they don’t value things like freedom of speech, or the second amendment, I clearly must defend those things myself. And since liberals are falling more and more to leftism and use identity politics where they label people child killers, where they say I can’t be a feminist or a Democrat because I’m pro-life? That’s a no go either. Therefore there’s only one sensible choice. I’m at a point where I’m just seeing who makes the best policy that protects my concerns and interests. If I could register as an independent I would.

Pretty soon you’ll realize that what I’m saying is true. Leftism is a disease.
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« Reply #15668 on: March 21, 2018, 03:37:09 AM »
Intersectionality is an inherently authoritarian ideology wtf

Wanna run that by me again, boss?

Shut the fuck up you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, you don't even know the Stalinist origins of that plague or how an ideology that glorifies the subjective and engages in oppression olympics can't be anything else but authoritarian. I refuse to engage in such a complicated discussion with an imbecile like you.

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« Reply #15669 on: March 21, 2018, 03:39:57 AM »
the behavior of companies like Google


MASSIVE MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS ARE NOT THE LEFT     MASSIVE MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS ARE NOT THE LEFT     MASSIVE MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS ARE NOT THE LEFT     MASSIVE MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS ARE NOT THE LEFT     MASSIVE MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS ARE NOT THE LEFT     MASSIVE MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS ARE NOT THE LEFT     

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« Reply #15670 on: March 21, 2018, 03:40:22 AM »
I’m trapped in a shitstain sandwich with The Little Coon That Could And The Fedora Avenger

Optimus

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« Reply #15671 on: March 21, 2018, 03:46:08 AM »
Optimus:

That would suppose that this behavior isn’t left doctrine. It is. When you realize it is, you realize that the systems they espouse naturally fall into disarray and why all socialist/communist regimes fall into some form of totalitarianism. These aren’t just quirks or just bugs, they’re core parts of the ideology. That’s why it fails. To the United States’ credit, despite its excesses and flaws it has been a roaring success and there’s far more opportunity than what they would offer. The conclusion? Leftism is a failure because it doesn’t properly manage the human factor. Since they don’t value things like freedom of speech, or the second amendment, I clearly must defend those things myself. And since liberals are falling more and more to leftism, that’s a no go either. I’m at a point where I’m just seeing who makes the best policy that protects my concerns and interests. If I could register as an independent I would.

Pretty soon you’ll realize that what I’m saying is true. Leftism is a disease.


Why do you think corporate media and tech giants would have fully embraced this ideology (like they do now) if it was truly leftist? Did you know that Google is censoring actual socialist sites? This is how the ruling class reacts to groups that truly threaten them. If these fucks were actual leftists that threatened these multinational corporations' existence they would try to destroy them any means necessary, the reason they support them is because not only they're harmless to them but they also aid them to divide the middle class.

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« Reply #15672 on: March 21, 2018, 03:49:16 AM »
holy shit an actual good optimus post

curly

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« Reply #15673 on: March 21, 2018, 03:51:11 AM »
To the United States’ credit, despite its excesses and flaws it has been a roaring success and there’s far more opportunity than what they would offer.

Chattel slavery, that unfortunate excess of the American experiment

Himu

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« Reply #15674 on: March 21, 2018, 03:51:57 AM »
I doubt they are Cindi, and like I said, I get where you are coming from with the criticisms of people on the left,  I have em too, though I think you are over-stating them quite a lot. But you seem to have an incredibly warped view of just what the other side looks like and how tolerant they actually are of not just free speech, but really your basic humanity.

Just on a whim I googled for you what the most popular regional message board where I live in the south had to say about the Trump transgender ban and the protests immediately following it:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

[close]

I didn't cherry pick, those are just first three responses. I've come across far worse. I'm only really familiar with it because it unfortunately houses a sub-forum that is the largest New Orleans Pelicans community in the state and they pass along breaking news faster than anywhere else. Thankfully they are fairly insulated from the rest of the community. But it's not dissimilar from the nonsense I see on The_Donald, 4chan, or the right-wing pockets of twitter, and frankly, far more tolerant than what you get going to the fringes of the right that you place Resetera at on the left.

This is fair. But you think I’m going at this because of identity. Bro, I truly believe in the first amendment and the entirety of the bill of rights. The last few years have been a nice test to see what you actually believe in. It goes beyond identity. Protecting American values against people who deem America bad when people fought and died for my ability to try my hand at success even at the risk of failure goes beyond being trans. This is the problem with identity politics: that it presumes ones identity is the most important thing in the world. It isn’t. There are things to fight for and believe in that transcend identity. Much more than that, how the hell do you expect to make in-roads with “the other side”? Do you expect them to always be “the enemy”? Trying to make your case made on just one side makes zero political sense. You need advocates on both sides or else things don’t get done. Are you saying people can’t change? Another problem with identity politics.

I’ve also talked to multiple conservatives and they’re more open to dialogue and talking than people make them out to be.

I also find it annoying how the only argument people only use is,”THEY HATE YOU!” as if people are incapable of ever fighting for anything beyond themselves. It truly speaks of the weakness of identity politics to me: this rigid ideology that can never shed its emphasis on the self and yet has fuck all to show for it.
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« Reply #15675 on: March 21, 2018, 03:53:25 AM »
holy shit an actual good optimus post

I guess if you took away the last sentence when it inevitably barrels into the usual Optimus nonsense.

Himu

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« Reply #15676 on: March 21, 2018, 03:54:15 AM »
To the United States’ credit, despite its excesses and flaws it has been a roaring success and there’s far more opportunity than what they would offer.

Chattel slavery, that unfortunate excess of the American experiment

America also fought to end chattel slavery, something you should be proud of as an American.

Chattel slavery is hardly a unique American phenemon so don’t act like it is. It is a sin of the New World at large. So I’m clearly not talking about slavery as an excess because it’s not unique to America.
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Himu

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« Reply #15677 on: March 21, 2018, 03:55:24 AM »
Optimus:

That would suppose that this behavior isn’t left doctrine. It is. When you realize it is, you realize that the systems they espouse naturally fall into disarray and why all socialist/communist regimes fall into some form of totalitarianism. These aren’t just quirks or just bugs, they’re core parts of the ideology. That’s why it fails. To the United States’ credit, despite its excesses and flaws it has been a roaring success and there’s far more opportunity than what they would offer. The conclusion? Leftism is a failure because it doesn’t properly manage the human factor. Since they don’t value things like freedom of speech, or the second amendment, I clearly must defend those things myself. And since liberals are falling more and more to leftism, that’s a no go either. I’m at a point where I’m just seeing who makes the best policy that protects my concerns and interests. If I could register as an independent I would.

Pretty soon you’ll realize that what I’m saying is true. Leftism is a disease.


Why do you think corporate media and tech giants would have fully embraced this ideology (like they do now) if it was truly leftist? Did you know that Google is censoring actual socialist sites? This is how the ruling class reacts to groups that truly threaten them. If these fucks were actual leftists that threatened these multinational corporations' existence they would try to destroy them any means necessary, the reason they support them is because not only they're harmless to them but they also aid them to divide the middle class.

:obama

Well met.
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Himu

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« Reply #15678 on: March 21, 2018, 04:18:54 AM »
Ok, so I read that link you posted. First off, fuck Google. Switch to Duck Duck Go. Secondly, while this makes the case that companies like google aren’t leftist, it doesn’t make the case for leftism. Actual leftists do half their job alienating people already.

Let’s not forget Nola on this very page talks about how there’s no point because “they hate you!!!!:stop”. One thing you’ll routinely find is defeatism from the left: you can’t successfully talk to the “other side” because they are incapable of communication and thus there’s no point; People suffer from passing privilege in trans circles as if they didn’t try and just woke up passing therefore they’re privileged; Capitalism is evil therefore there’s no point in trying to contain its excesses; Systemic racism limits your ability as a black person to be successful so why bother trying? Eventually you start to see this blaming and finger pointing and lack of accountabiility in everything they do. There’s no point in fighting for anything. Just stay right here where you’re nice and comfortable.

The ideology just lacks teeth and the more independent you get the more repulsive it appears. Want a gun for self defense? “There’s no point because it’s statistically unlikely you’ll ever need it.” Everything is like that with them. Eventually you get tired of the constant victimization, the white guilt hellholes you have to suffer, the complete lack of solutions in lieu of bitching. Which is precisely why the typical go to leftist response is usually to ban it, to censor it, to stop it from ever breathing, to pretend it doesn’t exist, to call it deplorable.

And that’s when you see what the “other side” is selling.

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« Reply #15679 on: March 21, 2018, 04:19:57 AM »
The hardcore leftists you hung out with who are insanely puritan and fit the SJW narrative? well they were like that because that's who you were that period of time. You gravitated towards them and them towards you.

This this this this this this this this.

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« Reply #15680 on: March 21, 2018, 04:38:57 AM »


Let’s not forget Nola on this very page talks about how there’s no point because “they hate you!!!!:stop”. One thing you’ll routinely find is defeatism from the left: you can’t successfully talk to the “other side” because they are incapable of communication and thus there’s no point; People suffer from passing privilege in trans circles as if they didn’t try and just woke up passing therefore they’re privileged; Capitalism is evil therefore there’s no point in trying to contain its excesses; Systemic racism limits your ability as a black person to be successful so why bother trying? Eventually you start to see this blaming and finger pointing and lack of accountabiility in everything they do. There’s no point in fighting for anything. Just stay right here where you’re nice and comfortable.

The ideology just lacks teeth and the more independent you get the more repulsive it appears. Want a gun for self defense? “There’s no point because it’s statistically unlikely you’ll ever need it.” Everything is like that with them. Eventually you get tired of the constant victimization, the white guilt hellholes you have to suffer, the complete lack of solutions in lieu of bitching. Which is precisely why the typical go to leftist response is usually to ban it, to censor it, to stop it from ever breathing, to pretend it doesn’t exist, to call it deplorable.

And that’s when you see what the “other side” is selling.



If I and everyone else believed in defeatism and disavowed the power of persuasion, no one here would of responded to you.

Your own experience is undercutting that assertion.   




Optimus

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« Reply #15681 on: March 21, 2018, 04:48:52 AM »
Ok, so I read that link you posted. First off, fuck Google. Switch to Duck Duck Go. Secondly, while this makes the case that companies like google aren’t leftist, it doesn’t make the case for leftism. Actual leftists do half their job alienating people already.

Let’s not forget Nola on this very page talks about how there’s no point because “they hate you!!!!:stop”. One thing you’ll routinely find is defeatism from the left: you can’t successfully talk to the “other side” because they are incapable of communication and thus there’s no point; People suffer from passing privilege in trans circles as if they didn’t try and just woke up passing therefore they’re privileged; Capitalism is evil therefore there’s no point in trying to contain its excesses; Systemic racism limits your ability as a black person to be successful so why bother trying? Eventually you start to see this blaming and finger pointing and lack of accountabiility in everything they do. There’s no point in fighting for anything. Just stay right here where you’re nice and comfortable.

The ideology just lacks teeth and the more independent you get the more repulsive it appears. Want a gun for self defense? “There’s no point because it’s statistically unlikely you’ll ever need it.” Everything is like that with them. Eventually you get tired of the constant victimization, the white guilt hellholes you have to suffer, the complete lack of solutions in lieu of bitching. Which is precisely why the typical go to leftist response is usually to ban it, to censor it, to stop it from ever breathing, to pretend it doesn’t exist, to call it deplorable.

And that’s when you see what the “other side” is selling.


You're specifically talking about the authoritarian American "left" here which is basically the only mainstream "left" the US ruling class allows to exist since they are their useful idiots. I too think capitalism is cancer but I certainly won't try to censor anyone who says otherwise or try to smear them as Nazis because I'm not a fucking authoritarian asshole. Btw you think republicans are any better with free speech? Here's a story you won't find anywhere on corporate media:

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Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, along with 18 members of the House of Representatives—15 Republicans and three Democrats—has sent a letter to Attorney General Jeff Sessions demanding that the Qatari-run Al-Jazeera television network register as a foreign agent under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA). The letter was issued after Al-Jazeera said it planned to air a documentary by a reporter who went undercover to look into the Israel lobby in the United States. The action by the senator and the House members follows the decision by the Justice Department to force RT America to register as a foreign agent and the imposition of algorithms by Facebook, Google and Twitter that steer traffic away from left-wing, anti-war and progressive websites, including Truthdig. It also follows December’s abolition of net neutrality.

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/building-the-iron-wall/

Geez, with all that scrutiny against republicans you'd think corporate media would basically advertise this story. Oh wait, it's about the Israeli lobby and tech giants censoring US opposition, scratch that.

curly

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« Reply #15682 on: March 21, 2018, 04:55:43 AM »
Republicans (along with a significant portion of the Democratic party) are trying to criminalize boycotting or advocating for a boycott of Israel, but nobody talks about it because lol it's Palestine.

Nola

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« Reply #15683 on: March 21, 2018, 04:58:21 AM »
I remember when there was a big hoopla around Al Jazeera America during Bush.

They wanted to buy into the American cable market but were basically locked out of most markets thanks to simultaneous pressure from the cable oligopoly and the Bush Administration on cable and satellite companies. If I remember right they tried to buy, or did buy, Al Gore’s channel. But once again they got dropped and basically dissolved that channel a couple years later.

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« Reply #15684 on: March 21, 2018, 05:19:22 AM »
For the record the Al Jazeera documentary exposing AIPAC has been delayed repeatedly and we have no idea if it'll air because Israel and its puppet state, the US of A, have repeatedly threatened the channel.

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« Reply #15685 on: March 21, 2018, 07:55:04 AM »
It’s funny leftists concentrate on T_D and its putrid awfulness regarding Russian hacks when it has been revealed that Russians sowed discord in all sorts of subreddits including /r/blackladies. It’s even gotten to the point where redditors have started a campaign to get the ceo of reddit fired for it. But liberals and leftists won’t talk about that because it exposes that Russians used both sides to make each other turn further against each other. Gotta milk that collusion but, ne?

Source:

https://www.reddit.com/r/blackladies/comments/81je6c/blackladies_was_one_of_many_reddit_communities/

Bubububu T_D

Did you hang around /r/politics during the election? You want active discord you got it. It was an absolute mess. It was obvious there was thread manipulation on all sides from concentrated forces.

It is the best example I could relate to and I'm sure Reddit has done little to fix it.
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« Reply #15686 on: March 21, 2018, 08:38:22 AM »
To the United States’ credit, despite its excesses and flaws it has been a roaring success and there’s far more opportunity than what they would offer.

Chattel slavery, that unfortunate excess of the American experiment

America also fought to end chattel slavery, something you should be proud of as an American.

 :lol

God you’re full of shit

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« Reply #15687 on: March 21, 2018, 09:00:36 AM »
This is just going to turn into a bigger and bigger quote pyramid each post just so you can tell each other to fuck off, isn't it?

Some thehunter116 level shit right here.
You know you love my mad quoting skillz  :doge

Himu

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« Reply #15688 on: March 21, 2018, 09:01:37 AM »
To the United States’ credit, despite its excesses and flaws it has been a roaring success and there’s far more opportunity than what they would offer.

Chattel slavery, that unfortunate excess of the American experiment

America also fought to end chattel slavery, something you should be proud of as an American.

 :lol

God you’re full of shit

And you’re dumb. :idont
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« Reply #15689 on: March 21, 2018, 09:06:48 AM »
Jesus fuck what did I walk into.  :iface :cac

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« Reply #15690 on: March 21, 2018, 09:07:25 AM »
And you’re dumb. :idont

Says a black LGBT supporting the GOP.  :neogaf :sabu

I mean c'mon, you have people that want to literally kill you.

https://twitter.com/JesseThorn/status/976204703586398208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%23976204703586398208

 :dead

Even Ziggy has had enough.
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« Reply #15691 on: March 21, 2018, 09:36:09 AM »
And you’re dumb. :idont

Says a black LGBT supporting the GOP.  :neogaf :sabu

I mean c'mon, you have people that want to literally kill you.

https://twitter.com/JesseThorn/status/976204703586398208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%23976204703586398208

 :dead

Even Ziggy has had enough.

No joke I’ve been laughing at this out loud for a good five minutes.

FULL SAMUEL L JACKSON



CACKLING!!!

IT’S ALL THEY EVER GOT!!! NO POLICY. NO LEGISLATION. Just...you’re black! :stop You’re trans! :stop Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!

Ahahahahahaha! :sabu
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« Reply #15692 on: March 21, 2018, 09:48:07 AM »
Yeah because it’s fucking obvious to anyone with a brain why someone like you supporting Republicans is the equivalent of Bible Belt idiots supporting Trump cause they think he’ll bring back coal.

 Except it would be more like if they said we hate coal and will never ever bring it back

 Why do you think the GOP has to resort to voter suppression and gerrymandering to win?  Because they know that black people aren’t stupid enough to fall for their bullshit unlike you you fucking Coon

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« Reply #15693 on: March 21, 2018, 09:49:35 AM »
:sabu
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« Reply #15694 on: March 21, 2018, 09:49:37 AM »
You really think there aren't other companies just like the Cambridge Analytica scum working with the DNC?

[citation needed] for any of those CEOs talking about rigging third-world elections.

First off, fuck Google. Switch to Duck Duck Go.

:crowdlaff

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« Reply #15695 on: March 21, 2018, 09:57:54 AM »
"the democrats don't write legislation to protect black and lgbt people" is some hilariously distinguished mentally-challenged reasoning to support a party that is continuing to write legislation that actively discriminates against both of those groups

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« Reply #15696 on: March 21, 2018, 10:03:16 AM »
Cream  :neogaf :sabu

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« Reply #15697 on: March 21, 2018, 10:06:00 AM »
:sabu

If republican values are apparently so great to you then shouldn’t it make you sad that a large majority of black and trans people aren’t on your side and see you as the enemy? Your attitude is strange.

No of course not. You’ve made it abundantly clear you don’t actually give a shit about black or trans people, you psychotic, two-faced bigoted GOP-ball-washing coon gunnut bitch

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« Reply #15698 on: March 21, 2018, 10:10:12 AM »
It's not good for the black community to see itself as owned by the Dem Party.

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« Reply #15699 on: March 21, 2018, 10:15:35 AM »
It's not good for the black community to see itself as owned by the Dem Party.

Good thing we don’t.

Black people vote for which ever side is screwing them over less at the time.

If you vote republican, you’re voting against black people right now. That’s a fact.

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« Reply #15700 on: March 21, 2018, 10:16:16 AM »
Here’s the tea.

You can mention that I’m dumb for voting republican as a black person, but we have established earlier that mass immigration hurts black people. Even in high-skilled jobs.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/trump-clinton-immigration-economy-unemployment-jobs-214216

Meanwhile the Democratic Party capes for people who are here ILLEGALLY and gives them state office positions and even state ID’s (Chicago) so they can vote in spite of that illegality. To Democrats American citizens are expendable to illegals. So clearly neither party represents any black persons interests fully. And you would be delusional to think they do. You have to pick.

But please tell “they hate you!!! :stop” really matters. Policy matters. Strong borders. Democrats’ open order policy for nothing more than votes shows exactly their character: they see you as a vote. Keep voting for us even though it goes against your interests. They even know this. Same for abortion and the black population. More babies are aborted in NYC than are born. But nah, women’s right to choose is more important. Showing exactly how low and expendable they see black people. Are they really protecting black interests?

If you really think either party has black interests in mind you’re a dummy!

And this is why identity politics, again, is dog shit. Details don’t matter. Policy doesn’t matter. Just the hierarchal oppression Olympics. Leftism is a disease. And also why liberalism is an ideological failure. It’s wbout catering to as many people as possible even if it goes against your interests.

Excuse me, I have two newspapers to read. :sabu WSJ opinion section here I come! :rejoice
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« Reply #15701 on: March 21, 2018, 10:17:33 AM »
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« Reply #15702 on: March 21, 2018, 10:17:59 AM »
the cynical take on immigration is its just about changing voting districts demos, which is why the left wants them a path to voting for the left and the right wants to stop it

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« Reply #15703 on: March 21, 2018, 10:22:58 AM »
the cynical take on immigration is its just about changing voting districts demos, which is why the left wants them a path to voting for the left and the right wants to stop it

There’s that. But the fact that the left want people who are illegal and go around border security for votes shows exactly who they are. Are their interests in the American people? Nah. Meanwhile, the right stance secures borders. When you’ve got mayors doing illegal acts like warning illegals that ICE is coming and commit treason, the gig is up. Although that may be related to the Eichmann Problem and personal state soverienty. But that’s for another topic on whether it’s ethical or not.
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« Reply #15704 on: March 21, 2018, 10:28:56 AM »
Etiolate, read this and bask in the schadenfreude.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/07/the-democrats-immigration-mistake/528678/

Apparently KANEDA has a problem with illegal immigration as well! I wonder if they’ll be like any other sovereign state and enforce secure borders like any other first world nation not named America. Or if they’ll lose their minds and think illegal immigration is actually a good thing and become an anarchist state.
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« Reply #15705 on: March 21, 2018, 10:49:27 AM »
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A larger explanation is political. Between 2008 and 2016, Democrats became more and more confident that the country’s growing Latino population gave the party an electoral edge. To win the presidency, Democrats convinced themselves, they didn’t need to reassure white people skeptical of immigration so long as they turned out their Latino base. “The fastest-growing sector of the American electorate stampeded toward the Democrats this November,” Salon declared after Obama’s 2008 win. “If that pattern continues, the GOP is doomed to 40 years of wandering in a desert.”

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Alongside pressure from pro-immigrant activists came pressure from corporate America, especially the Democrat-aligned tech industry, which uses the H-1B visa program to import workers.

Public face: concern for poor syrian babies

Private face: fuck american voters, we'll just import the votes in

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« Reply #15706 on: March 21, 2018, 10:53:33 AM »
Etiolate, read this and bask in the schadenfreude.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/07/the-democrats-immigration-mistake/528678/

Apparently KANEDA has a problem with illegal immigration as well! I wonder if they’ll be like any other sovereign state and enforce secure borders like any other first world nation not named America. Or if they’ll lose their minds and think illegal immigration is actually a good thing and become an anarchist state.
There is a certain absurdity in your new over-corrective group identity switching that you are actually now trying to convince yourself that the Republican Party has labors best interests in mind.

You know what does even more harm to low skilled workers? Anti-labor policies like the conservative ideals of lowering or stagnating the minimum wage indefinitely, gutting social services, raising healthcare costs, and removing as much labor protections, including affirmative action and discrimination laws, as they can muster the political will for.

If I hadn’t been burned out by your cognitive dissonance from the gun discussion I would go into a lot more detail on just how absurd your rationale is, but if you want to make the case Kansas and Oklahoma are ideal economic models for low skill black workers, feel free to try.


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« Reply #15707 on: March 21, 2018, 10:57:44 AM »
Am I doing it right by never having had any personal social media account? Think not even the youtube algorithm has a beat on me since I've gotten ads from like 15 different countries. Unless they think I really need Swedish car insurance as a Dutch guy. Also got what looked like an hour long ISIS recruitment ad once???

Yeah, but things like jacking up the prices on a product for you individually because they know you're already interested (maybe because you clicked the same link yesterday) is harder to avoid, unless you go full anonymous.


Is anyone (big) actually still doing that? I know Amazon tried it several years back but it didn’t last long once people started to figure it out.

In my view figuring out individual price elasticities is non-trivial and also,  there’s a lot of reputation risk.

I don't know first hand, i just hear stories from colleagues who joined my team from a disbanded qlikview-team. Personally i work with much more traditional hard data.
We aren't monetising much if any of the controversial stuff yet and i don't know much about how we intend to do it. I just know that we are banking hard on being able to do so in the future.
Without violating the GDPR of course :)



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« Reply #15708 on: March 21, 2018, 11:08:34 AM »
Here’s the tea.

You can mention that I’m dumb for voting republican as a black person, but we have established earlier that mass immigration hurts black people. Even in high-skilled jobs.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/trump-clinton-immigration-economy-unemployment-jobs-214216

Meanwhile the Democratic Party capes for people who are here ILLEGALLY and gives them state office positions and even state ID’s (Chicago) so they can vote in spite of that illegality. To Democrats American citizens are expendable to illegals. So clearly neither party represents any black persons interests fully. And you would be delusional to think they do. You have to pick.

But please tell “they hate you!!! :stop” really matters. Policy matters. Strong borders. Democrats’ open order policy for nothing more than votes shows exactly their character: they see you as a vote. Keep voting for us even though it goes against your interests. They even know this. Same for abortion and the black population. More babies are aborted in NYC than are born. But nah, women’s right to choose is more important. Showing exactly how low and expendable they see black people. Are they really protecting black interests?

If you really think either party has black interests in mind you’re a dummy!

And this is why identity politics, again, is dog shit. Details don’t matter. Policy doesn’t matter. Just the hierarchal oppression Olympics. Leftism is a disease. And also why liberalism is an ideological failure. It’s wbout catering to as many people as possible even if it goes against your interests.

Excuse me, I have two newspapers to read. :sabu WSJ opinion section here I come! :rejoice

What you’re basically saying that the entire black electorate, as well as the trans electorate, are stupid, and only you have figured of the magical recipe to voting for our interests.

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« Reply #15709 on: March 21, 2018, 11:22:33 AM »
The imported votes canard. :whoo

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« Reply #15710 on: March 21, 2018, 11:34:09 AM »
To Democrats American citizens are expendable to illegals.
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Cindi's troll game on point 👌🏻

From "fuck white people" to "fuck millenials" to "fuck Democrats." Can't wait to see who's next. Probably the "non-black black people." :obama

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« Reply #15711 on: March 21, 2018, 11:37:15 AM »
[citation needed] for any of those CEOs talking about rigging third-world elections.

Oh, that's what we pretend is the problem here? Isn't it that facebook shared Americans' private info with republicans just like Google did with the DNC? And what's the point of rigging an election if Hillary Clinton can just start a civil war that will end in the torture-murder of the leader's nation which then Clinton can laugh about? Or you know it can be a good ol' coup d'etat like in Honduras. But no, liberals are now suddenly morally outraged by something CIA does on Tuesdays. Stop. being. hypocrites.



First off, fuck Google. Switch to Duck Duck Go.

lol


While I still use Google for the searches that produce nothing good just to be sure DuckduckGo is pretty much on the same level as Google the last 1-2 years and not because it's gotten so good but because Google's search has turned to shit after years of added censorship and search manipulation. Most of the results now are liberal clickbait sites, you can somehow manage the bullshit by changing region on your VPN but DuckDuckGo does that by default without the need to change IP (and actually does it unlike Google that has the option and never does).

And btw if you want Google results you can still use startpage.com which uses Google's directories without scanning your entire search history.

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« Reply #15712 on: March 21, 2018, 11:52:26 AM »
[citation needed] for any of those CEOs talking about rigging third-world elections.

Oh, that's what we pretend is the problem here? Isn't it that facebook shared Americans' private info with republicans just like Google did with the DNC? And what's the point of rigging an election if Hillary Clinton can just start a civil war that will end in the torture-murder of the leader's nation which then Clinton can laugh about? Or you know it can be a good ol' coup d'etat like in Honduras. But no, liberals are now suddenly morally outraged by something CIA does on Tuesdays. Stop. being. hypocrites.



First off, fuck Google. Switch to Duck Duck Go.

lol


While I still use Google for the searches that produce nothing good just to be sure DuckduckGo is pretty much on the same level as Google the last 1-2 years and not because it's gotten so good but because Google's search has turned to shit after years of added censorship and search manipulation. Most of the results now are liberal clickbait sites, you can somehow manage the bullshit by changing region on your VPN but DuckDuckGo does that by default without the need to change IP (and actually does it unlike Google that has the option and never does).

And btw if you want Google results you can still use startpage.com which uses Google's directories without scanning your entire search history.

So no citation?

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« Reply #15713 on: March 21, 2018, 12:08:31 PM »
nuke this fucking thread
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« Reply #15714 on: March 21, 2018, 12:12:21 PM »
[citation needed] for any of those CEOs talking about rigging third-world elections.

Oh, that's what we pretend is the problem here? Isn't it that facebook shared Americans' private info with republicans just like Google did with the DNC? And what's the point of rigging an election if Hillary Clinton can just start a civil war that will end in the torture-murder of the leader's nation which then Clinton can laugh about? Or you know it can be a good ol' coup d'etat like in Honduras. But no, liberals are now suddenly morally outraged by something CIA does on Tuesdays. Stop. being. hypocrites.



First off, fuck Google. Switch to Duck Duck Go.

lol


While I still use Google for the searches that produce nothing good just to be sure DuckduckGo is pretty much on the same level as Google the last 1-2 years and not because it's gotten so good but because Google's search has turned to shit after years of added censorship and search manipulation. Most of the results now are liberal clickbait sites, you can somehow manage the bullshit by changing region on your VPN but DuckDuckGo does that by default without the need to change IP (and actually does it unlike Google that has the option and never does).

And btw if you want Google results you can still use startpage.com which uses Google's directories without scanning your entire search history.

So no citation?

Sure!

Google working directly with the Clinton campaign:
https://www.scribd.com/document/328037888/Clinton-Status-Memo-Mentioning-Google-s-Eric-Schmidt
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/12403

A psychopath laughing at the leader she torture-killed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y
Clinton indirectly (of course) admitting her role on the Honduras coup d'etat: http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/9/hillary-clinton-honduraslatinamericaforeignpolicy.html
ONLY the confirmed cases of CIA interfering with other countries elections: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-us-intervention-foreign-elections-20161213-story.html

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« Reply #15715 on: March 21, 2018, 12:17:02 PM »

I guess I appreciate the work for the straw man aspect of your post, but that wasn’t the citation being asked for.

But honestly I dont really care, it’s obvious nonsense, I was just subtlety trying to point out how you didn’t answer his question.

« Last Edit: March 21, 2018, 12:21:53 PM by Nola »

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« Reply #15716 on: March 21, 2018, 12:31:03 PM »

I guess I appreciate the work for the straw man aspect of your post, but that wasn’t the citation being asked for.

But honestly I dont really care, it’s obvious nonsense, I was just subtlety trying to point out how you didn’t answer his question.


And I was being an asshole by purposely misinterpreting your post to piss you off about Hillary "the thundercunt" Clinton.

Well, at least I'm an honest asshole unlike 90% of the posts itt.

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« Reply #15717 on: March 21, 2018, 12:45:56 PM »
Don't act like you don't want this shirt yourself.


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« Reply #15718 on: March 21, 2018, 12:48:18 PM »
Truly Kafkaesque

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« Reply #15719 on: March 21, 2018, 12:55:50 PM »
gotta vote in bigoted reactionaries and their agenda to protect my gun fetish that I developed as a comfort blanket for fears of bigoted reactionaries being empowered and persecuting me

what stage of the galaxy brain is this?
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